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	(2090, 232, 12, 1278970296, 38, 2090, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'Sabertooth', 'ssj4chazou@hotmail.com', '66.211.46.100', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ralphis link=topic=232.msg2084#msg2084 date=1278942874]<br />Ralphis said some stuff about 10 teams and waffles i think.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I always willing to help but as my track record shows I&#039;m not always able whether its because I have problems (like everyone else) and/or I lack the confidence in myself to not ultimately drag a team down like last season. Hell season 1 will always be my favorite season even with all the &quot;hardships&quot; I had to go through.<br /><br />Also I would like to see the league grow with diminishing&nbsp; team skills than to drop to nothing more than the same few people you have to lasso back in every season with the hopes of candy.<br />But that&#039;s just me.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2121, 226, 12, 1279489780, 10, 2121, 'Re: IDEA: Tiebreaker Rule Change', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Tony link=topic=226.msg2118#msg2118 date=1279441907]<br />[quote author=Killingblair link=topic=226.msg2112#msg2112 date=1279150622]<br />LIVIN ON A PRAYER<br />[/quote]<br />TAKE MY HAND AND WELL MAKE IT I SWEAR<br />[/quote]<br />WHOA-OH LIVIN ON A PRAYER', 'xx', 1);
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	(2179, 246, 1, 1281190901, 73, 2179, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'Quiksilver', 'joshbryantmusic@gmail.com', '68.57.224.163', 1, 0, '', '[IMG]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/Vcoalition/nostarpaypalerror.jpg[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3371, 382, 1, 1297141217, 16, 3371, 'Re: Top 5 EGOS', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '149.152.191.3', 1, 1297141469, 'Tai', '[quote author=RustInPeace link=topic=382.msg3367#msg3367 date=1297059187]<br />5. Tai/Hatred - Well both of these guys are rather similar in the sense that it&#039;s never their fault for losing. When Tai is D, it&#039;s mid&#039;s fault. When he&#039;s mid, it&#039;s D&#039;s fault. When he is O, it&#039;s his laggggg. Regardless of who is to blame, it&#039;s always the same story in priv. It&#039;s 15 minutes of why he did great and everyone else blew it and if you counter with valid arguments, you&#039;re trolling.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />And despite all this, nothing grinds my gears more than Legion telling me he wants to fucking D on 31 when we&#039;re on the same team. Fucking southern hick better suck my god damn cock. <br /><br />[IMG]http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3994/1292743141.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2204, 246, 1, 1281379989, 202, 2204, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'unknown', 'vratajin@hotmail.com', '88.86.124.0', 1, 1281380672, 'unknown', 'So, what do you guys propose, can zdaemon be helped ? Is it worth saving, or do we just wait(some of you are actively helping or developing so don&#039;t be offended by this term) for odamex to save the day ?<br /><br />I&#039;m getting all kinds of ideas, for instance a lot of the services zdaemon provides can be duplicated, you can run an alternative front page, alternative forums(the over-moderation is absurd), alternative IRC channel, maybe even alternative master with a modified zserv(?). But this might just split up the community, hurting it even more.<br /><br />I think we all know where the problem lies. Raider doesn&#039;t do anything visible and he did not put anyone in his place to do the work for him(seems to me kilgore just happens to do some stuff since he&#039;s got the access), he may be providing the funding or even some necessarily administration so that the port can survive on daily bases - and by no means is that a small deed, but as we are all probably aware, zdaemon and doom in general needs much more to survive in this day and age.<br /><br />I&#039;m still hoping raider or kilgore wake up one day, realize things are going nowhere, and they do something radical about it. But the outlook is pretty bleak, how else would you explain this remark by kilgore: &quot;If anyone is interested, he can talk to raider in person.&quot; , i&#039;ve heard pretty incredible stories of people trying to contact raider on numerous occasions for various reasons, never to get a word from him. I once PM&#039;ed him on the forums myself, it was quite a lengthy post, not really something of terrible importance, but i expected at least an &quot;Aye&quot;, to know he bothered to read the damn message, nothing.<br /><br />What i would propose, and suggested in the link provided with my previous post, is a complete change of administration. I believe players themselves should vote on a board of players who would be responsible for the direction zdaemon takes. Not one single person, i would suggest about 5 people who would then put a proper zdaemon administration in place. You know, people who actually care for the community and are interested and capable of getting stuff done. These 5(or whichever number would be agreed upon) members would set out the goals for the zdaemon administration team and set a general direction, they would apoint a manager responsible for getting those goals done. That way, the port does not die if one key person loses interest and changes don&#039;t happen just out a whim of one person with the power.<br /><br />I don&#039;t know, i&#039;m just thinking on the go here, but the status quo of zdaemon is a nightmare and i&#039;m trying to come up with some ideas. Sadly, i don&#039;t feel i can speak openly in the zdaemon forum so i do it here.<br /><br />And in a closing statement, i have a special message for kilgore. I love you man(in a non-gay way), i know you have done incredible amount of work for zdaemon and i think even most of those who speak harshly against you(and sometimes they might be justified for doing so) realize this. But things need to be fixed now, and this time fixing the source code won&#039;t do, the bug is in the top chair, listen to the people even when what they say sounds uncomfortable. Raider can&#039;t fix the problem, raider and the system he put in place IS the problem.<br /><br />p.s as you have problably guessed, this is not my real nickname, i know people have been banned in the past for speaking against the zdaemon apparatus , i still want to have the opportunity to play the game(and to clarify, i have nothing against the game of zdaemon itself, this is where i think kilgore has done a great job)', 'xx', 1);
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	(8861, 499, 1, 1365563211, 10, 8861, 'Re: North America Vs Europe', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '98.225.132.74', 1, 0, '', 'I would step up and captain Team America', 'xx', 1);
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	(1666, 187, 11, 1269110295, 15, 1666, 'Re: IDL WINTER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.93.225', 1, 0, '', 'IDC<br /><br />Ralphis<br />KBlair<br />Nostar<br />Jenova<br />Devastation<br /><br />WDC<br /><br />Whiteboy<br />Mantis-X<br />Rottking<br />Shadow_Ghost<br />Metalblack<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(1667, 187, 11, 1269110663, 10, 1667, 'Re: IDL WINTER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', '[center][color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color]<br />Jenova<br />Killingblair<br />Mikehail<br />Nostar<br />Oath<br />[/center]<br /><br />[center][color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color]<br />ItalianStallion<br />METALBLACK<br />RottKing<br />Sabertooth<br />Whiteboy<br />[/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(6626, 641, 18, 1333411906, 4, 6626, 'Re: Winter 2012 MasterBowl Champions: SGS', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '71.197.24.195', 1, 1333412928, 'Ten', 'Congrats Hate, Stall and Blood, you guys definitely earned it. Undefeated [s]and never went past two rounds each game. Might be a first in IDL history.[/s]<br /><br />edit: forgot about week 5 against SUC. nevermind!', 'xx', 1);
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	(8522, 821, 29, 1361664082, 19, 8522, 'Re: Master Ranking', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '184.1.248.204', 1, 0, '', 'ud on top', 'xx', 1);
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	(1668, 187, 11, 1269115891, 130, 1680, 'Re: IDL WINTER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 1269203303, 'nostar', '[color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color]<br />Xena<br />KB<br />Miek<br />Ralph<br />Oath<br /><br />[color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color]<br />Stall<br />Shak<br />White<br />Bones<br />Rott', 'xx', 1);
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	(1663, 187, 11, 1269109233, 2, 1689, 'IDL WINTER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.46.242', 1, 1269223216, 'mikefails', '[center][size=16pt][b]-=Welcome to the IDL Winter 2010 All-Star selection!=-[/b][/size][/center]<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Voting is open to any player who is currently on an active roster in the IDL.[/li] <br />[li]Anyone voting may vote on up to five players from each conference that they elect as league all-stars.[/li]<br />[li]Any player voted on must currently be on a roster.[/li]<br />[li]Voting will conclude on Sunday, March 28th at 11:59:59 EST. Any votes received after that time will not be counted.[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />Please vote using the following format:<br /><br />[quote]<br />INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE<br />Pick 1<br />Pick 2<br />Pick 3<br />Pick 4<br />Pick 5<br /><br />WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE<br />Pick 1<br />Pick 2<br />Pick 3<br />Pick 4<br />Pick 5<br />[/quote]<br /><br />The Winter 2010 All-Stars will be announced on Monday, March 29th. Those selected will be offered the opportunity to play in the post-season All-Star game. More information on the All-Star game will be released after voting. Good luck to all players and thanks for a great season!', 'xx', 1);
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	(1721, 193, 11, 1269551864, 61, 1721, 'Re: Multiple Games per Week Poll', 'Chain', 'luis_miguelito_@hotmail.com', '69.129.234.61', 1, 0, '', 'Shorter season, multiple maps from a small pool (5 tops), no bye week, only one match per week = $$$', 'xx', 1);
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	(1723, 196, 11, 1269559790, 130, 1723, 'Re: IDL Masterbowl VII', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'Goat, read a fucking history book.<br /><br />IT REPEATS ITSELF IS WHAT I&#039;M TRYING TO SAY', 'xx', 1);
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	(1985, 228, 12, 1277753948, 147, 1985, 'Re: Week 4 (Jun 28 - Jul 4) : ZDECTF05 (MAP05) - Discussion and Results', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.93.251.5', 1, 0, '', 'SPE v BSK<br /><br />BSK has been a pretty big disappointment so far this year imo.&nbsp; That said, they still have a ton of talent and if Jen stops screwing everything up they can still go all the way.&nbsp; This is definitely more of a wide-open, dynamic player map than it is a slow methodical, plodding along approach, and in this respect BSK is favored.&nbsp; However, SPE has a buttload of fragging power and might be able to shoot their way to victory.<br /><br />SPE 2-1 in a semi-upset special<br /><br />DMR v KGB<br /><br />KGB is a pretty good team, and frankly DMR is not.&nbsp; Now if Hatred can pull some incredible shenanigans, this could get really interesting, but I think X-Ray is gonna be the hero here and bring it home for KGB<br /><br />KGB 2-0-1<br /><br />EBL v BBC<br /><br />I pick EBL every week and they let me down.&nbsp; White guarantees a win this time, so why not pick them again?<br /><br />EBL 2-1<br /><br />SUC v FLS<br /><br />I now realize the error in my ways and will try in vain to rescind everything that I&#039;ve said to Ralphis about this game, probably ending with crying in a corner and begging for mercy.<br /><br />SUC 2-0', 'xx', 1);
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	(1810, 208, 1, 1274070933, 147, 1810, 'Re: The Venerables', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.93.251.5', 1, 0, '', 'So the portly dark captain was Denny, the black Captain was Tai, but who is the one-eared young captain who reveres himself as a god and has long hair?', 'xx', 1);
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	(2038, 232, 12, 1278744924, 16, 2038, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '99.58.204.78', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=nostar link=topic=232.msg2036#msg2036 date=1278737773]<br />My post was mostly about how franchising fixed a lot of the problems we&#039;re seeing this season. Players bailing for better squads, no scheduling success, no shows, bad captaining. It all changes when you play with people you like. Take Fast bailing in the euros one season then playing with me and Ralph the next. If you play with people you&#039;re confident and comfortable with you do better and the league does better.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />So franchising would&#039;ve prevented Shadow&#039;s boss from telling him to come to work around the time of his IDL match? Ok. <br /><br />So franchising prevented mike from suddenly disappearing for god knows what come our IDC Championship match?&nbsp; Er...no offense to mike, but no it didn&#039;t. <br /><br />Didn&#039;t Fast almost not play for you and Ralphis over some dispute, saying he was done or something? I could argue that he realized if he quit then, he may have effectively ended his IDL career. You speak of Fast ragequitting on the Euros, but one of the reasons he bailed on them is because Nero traded Jkist to SUC for Dewww, and SUC ended up with the same team that won a title the season before, while SPE was significantly worse. Heck, for all we know, Fast knew that&nbsp; if he ragequit SPE, he guaranteed Nero didn&#039;t make the playoffs and was shafted as captain since that&#039;d be 2 straight seasons he watched the playoffs &quot;on green or white&quot;. <br /><br />And BSK...you say they have 3 wins; you mean 3 wins and a tie. That&#039;s not terrible in 5 weeks, no matter how you try to downplay how they got them. I mean, everyone&#039;s gotta play DMR eventually, you know. And I already told you about Shadow.<br /><br />FLS? I get it now; franchising is so awesum it even fixes PING! It&#039;s amazing!&nbsp; :o <br /><br />If Rus having a life means he&#039;s only showing up intermittenly, I may have to sign up for a life. Er...LB sure showed up in prac against you on Map20! 8 ) It seems FLS merely changed hands as far as captain as opposed to &quot;lose&quot; it. Unless they just suck for the rest of the season, I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s a big deal. It&#039;s not like they traded someone over night like some teams did. Same for Ladna taking a week off; assuming it was vacation, god forbid someone does that in the summer. I mean, are you suggesting he doesn&#039;t take this week off if franchising was in place?', 'xx', 1);
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	(2091, 233, 12, 1278972991, 35, 2091, 'Re: Week 5 (Jul 5 - Jul 12) : ZDECTF2-01 (MAP20) - Discussion and Results', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.240.85.23', 1, 0, '', 'http://www.speedyshare.com/files/23353835/IDL8Week5.rar', 'xx', 1);
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	(2112, 226, 12, 1279150622, 49, 2112, 'Re: IDEA: Tiebreaker Rule Change', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '24.154.81.230', 1, 0, '', 'LIVIN ON A PRAYER', 'xx', 1);
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	(3372, 382, 1, 1297142192, 265, 3372, 'Re: Top 5 EGOS', 'Aerial', 'rssniper100@hotmail.com', '173.240.230.116', 1, 0, '', 'when you have somebody who is as impressive as legion / goatface / dewww on your team, you have to let them call the shots tai', 'xx', 1);
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	(4274, 455, 16, 1309937118, 163, 4274, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.67.243.86', 1, 0, '', 'Call it what you will but I think the rule barring players to make only one trade per week is pretty dumb. For the sake of the commissioner not having to approve 50 trades a week, I can understand but at the very least, let&#039;s amend the rules on it and allow more than one trade per week, let&#039;s say 2 trades and on the week of the deadline (week 5, the end of it is the deadline I believe) allow as many trades as possible. I agree with Nostar mostly, we&#039;re operating on a rule system that was designed for a completely different system, an update certainly won&#039;t hurt.&nbsp; ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4497, 487, 16, 1312671571, 147, 4497, 'Re: IDL SUMMER 2011 ALLSTAR SELECTION', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.35.212', 1, 0, '', 'IDC<br /><br />Ralphis<br />Xenaero<br />Hatred<br />TurSKA<br />Rus<br /><br />WDC<br /><br />mikehail<br />PotentFronks<br />Stallion<br />HumanBones<br />ThatsJustPrime', 'xx', 1);
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	(4514, 488, 16, 1312768151, 213, 4514, 'Re: week 9 dmc vs. dmr incident', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '174.103.4.230', 1, 0, '', 'Nobody kicked anyone.&nbsp; I quit so you could rejoin.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1669, 187, 11, 1269120123, 0, 1669, 'Re: IDL WINTER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'Fastidious', '', '76.238.1.204', 1, 0, '', '[b]IDC[/b]<br />Dewww<br />Mikehail<br />Jenova<br />Midian<br />Killingblair<br /><br />[b]WDC[/b]<br />Shadow_Ghost<br />Stallion<br />Whiteboy<br />Cha0tix<br />Shakal', 'xx', 1);
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	(8862, 499, 1, 1365594751, 2313, 8862, 'Re: North America Vs Europe', 'nub_hat', 'mikaelhhome@yahoo.dk', '93.167.8.70', 1, 0, '', 'team europe will destroy this group of inferior nations to the west', 'xx', 1);
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	(1763, 199, 12, 1272609039, 170, 1763, 'Re: IDL Summer 2010 Signups Open', 'sOuLeR', 'sOuLeR@librealbedrio.mx', '200.92.168.136', 1, 0, '', 'Name: sOuLeR<br />Country: Mexico<br />Email contact: souler@librealbedrio.mx<br />Instant Message Contact: <br />Regular Availability: At nights', 'xx', 1);
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	(1673, 152, 3, 1269127054, 7, 1673, 'Re: SEX! CORRUPTION! MURDER! The biggest scandal that the IDL is not addressing.', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '99.50.227.67', 1, 0, '', 'That&#039;s Racist!', 'xx', 1);
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	(1672, 188, 11, 1269126961, 7, 1673, 'IDL Site Open Sourced', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '99.50.227.67', 1, 1269127205, 'Ladna', 'Hey everyone.&nbsp; I recently uploaded the source for IDL.org to [url=http://bitbucket.org/charlie/idl.org/]bitbucket[/url], so you can poke, prod, and generally do whatever you want with it.&nbsp; Have fun!<br /><br />P.S.<br /><br />For the love of God, do not ask me how to do anything with the code unless you&#039;re trying to help IDL.&nbsp; I won&#039;t help you run it or set up configs or anything at all, and I&#039;ll call you filthy, humiliating names in public if you ask me to.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1674, 187, 11, 1269128568, 22, 1674, 'Re: IDL WINTER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '67.70.64.159', 1, 0, '', '[color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color]<br />Jenova<br />Killingblair<br />Xenaero<br />Nostar<br />DevastatioN<br /><br />[color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color]<br />Stallion<br />Metalblack<br />Whiteboy<br />Bones<br />Rottking', 'xx', 1);
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	(1675, 188, 11, 1269130177, 10, 1675, 'Re: IDL Site Open Sourced', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'Sweet!', 'xx', 1);
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	(1676, 188, 11, 1269149500, 19, 1676, 'Re: IDL Site Open Sourced', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '69.68.247.158', 1, 0, '', 'Sweet, time to get crackin&#039;', 'xx', 1);
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	(1677, 187, 11, 1269152589, 19, 1677, 'Re: IDL WINTER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '69.68.247.158', 1, 0, '', 'IDC:<br />mikehail<br />Oath<br />Ralphis<br />Nostar<br />Killingblair<br /><br />WDC:<br />Shadow_Ghost<br />HumanBones<br />Whiteboy567<br />ItalianStallion<br />Gyrossman', 'xx', 1);
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	(1678, 185, 11, 1269152612, 19, 1678, 'Re: Dumb Flames (thx Nostar)', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '69.68.247.158', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=185.msg1670#msg1670 date=1269120616]<br />Why don&#039;t we all try and sing Kumbaya instead of flaming each other?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />[img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/200310/1269152557.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(1679, 185, 11, 1269154053, 10, 1679, 'Re: Dumb Flames (thx Nostar)', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=185.msg1670#msg1670 date=1269120616]<br />Haha, OK maybe not but I do think people take the IDL and these forums way too serious.[/quote]<br /><br />[img]http://ralphis.unidoom.org/stuff/img/excited.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(1680, 187, 11, 1269165398, 8, 1680, 'Re: IDL WINTER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '173.48.68.128', 1, 0, '', 'IDC:<br />mikehail<br />DevastatioN<br />Nostar<br />Xenaero<br />Killingblair<br /><br />WDC:<br />Shadow_Ghost<br />METALBLACK<br />Ladna<br />Whiteboy567<br />ItalianStallion', 'xx', 1);
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	(1695, 192, 11, 1269230341, 10, 1695, 'Re: Season Length Poll', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'Against making it shorter. Makes games even more significant to the point where if you lose even three games you&#039;re basically guaranteed to be out of playoff contention.<br /><br />Feel the current length is good. Regular season runs almost exactly two months. The entire season is less than three.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2073, 235, 12, 1278907876, 2, 2073, 'Week 6 (Jul 13 - Jul 20) : ZDCTF01 (MAP01) - Discussion and Results', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.36.4', 1, 0, '', '[center][b][size=5]Official Servers for Week 6 of IDL Summer 2010[/size][/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League Week 6 - MAP01 - A][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11022[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League Week 6 - MAP01 - B][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11023[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League Week 6 - MAP01 - C][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11024[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League Week 6 - MAP01 - D][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11025[/b]<br /><br />=======================================================<br />[b]<br />Super Chargers vs Doom Raiders (DIV)<br /><br />Berserker Packers vs Spread Eagles (DIV)<br /><br />Flag Steelers vs Electric Bills<br /><br />Brokeback Cowboys vs Killing Browns [/b]<br /><br />=======================================================[/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(1719, 196, 11, 1269476864, 2, 1719, 'IDL Masterbowl VII', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.48.249', 1, 1269477347, 'mikefails', '[center][b][size=16pt]International Doom League<br />MasterBowl VII[/size][/b][/center]<br /><br />[center][b][size=2][color=blue][IDC Champions [u]Super Chargers[/u]][/color] vs [color=red][WDC Champions [u]Spread Eagles][/u][/color][/size] [/b]<br /><br />[img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/SuperChargers-small.png[/img] [size=15pt]-vs-[/size] [img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/SpreadEagles-small.png[/img]<br /><br />TBD<br />TotalTrash IDL A - 66.225.231.106:11022<br />Password=seasonseven<br /><br />Post predictions and/or discussions here.<br /><br />[hr][/center]<br /><br />The final game of the Winter 2010 season, MasterBowl VII. MasterBowl VII is the [b]37th[/b] game of the Winter 2010 season and the [b]318th[/b] IDL game of all time.<br /><br />Two cross-conference rivals stand to meet again after a heated 3rd week upset, facing off in the culmination of the 7th IDL season to decide once and for all who will be the MasterBowl Champions!&nbsp; For the first time since MasterBowl I, two #1 seeds face off for the IDL title.&nbsp; Let&#039;s take a look at the two teams and their players as they head into this historic matchup.<br /><br />[center][size=14pt][b][color=blue]SUPER CHARGERS[/color][/b][/size][/center]<br /><br />Representing the IDC, the [color=blue][b]Super Chargers[/b][/color] have proven to be the premiere IDL team since the franchising system began. <br /><br />Across the last three seasons, two of which being directly captained by [b]Nostar[/b] with the current season being captained by [b]Ralphis[/b], the Super Chargers Club has accumulated a league leading record of of 26 wins, 2 ties, and 1 loss. Of those 26 wins, the Super Chargers hold an undefeated streak 22 games long.<br /><br />In addition to this, the Super Chargers is the only franchise era club to achieve a perfect regular season and the only club to achieve a perfect regular and post season performance.&nbsp; Only one player of the original lineup remains however, Nostar the man behind it all.<br /><br />The Super Chargers&#039; players (as always) boast a variety of league accomplishments. <br /><br />[b]Ralphis[/b] already captained one league championship team (W2008&#039;s The Best Around) and has since appeared in the Winter 2009 MasterBowl, putting forth a gargantuan effort but ultimately falling short of the title.&nbsp; Besides being a 5 time captain, Ralphis has been here since the very beginning, boasting an impressive .645 captain average and a .750 playoff captain average, he has likely already bought the champagne to celebrate his second MasterBowl victory.<br /><br />[b]Nostar[/b] captained the Super Chargers to a second MasterBowl victory last season and is poised to potentially capture a third league title which would finally allow him to join PotentPotables as a triple MasterBowl ring holder.&nbsp; Historically matched with PotentPotables, he has since broken that tradition and allied himself with another powerful runner attempting to dominate IDL once more.&nbsp; One of the best defensive players currently in the league, without another impressive performance by him on this map, his team is certainly doomed.<br /><br />[b]Fastidious[/b] was an early season trade for Rosebird to the Berserker Packers which proved to be quite possibly, the best trade of the season.&nbsp; Being the MasterBowl captain of Summer 2009 team Reign In Blood, this will be his first MasterBowl appearance since.<br /><br />[b]Dewww[/b] has made few appearances so far this season, but I believe he is the sticky sexy glue holding this team together, without his sultry eastern European accent Nostar would have certainly abandoned the team to make low quality macaroni art to hang on Ladna&#039;s fridge.<br /><br />[center][size=14pt][b][color=red]SPREAD EAGLES[/color][/b][/size][/center]<br /><br />Representing the WDC, the [color=red][b]Spread Eagles[/b][/color] had an unimpressive start to their season, tying the Killing Browns on Oda02 and losing to divisional rival, the Berserker Packers early on.&nbsp; They turned it all around, breaking the longest winning streak in IDL history by defeating the Super Chargers on 32in24-09 and starting a winning streak of their own, going on to collect 4 more wins and a single loss to the Brokeback Cowboys that was recently avenged in the conference championship.&nbsp; Don&#039;t forget, they also broke the Spread Eagles curse, being the first Spread Eagles team to ever have a winning record and also the first Spread Eagles team to ever win a playoff game.<br /><br />The Eagles are being led by a long time veteran to IDL, [b]Shadow_Ghost[/b].&nbsp; His only notable mentions are his uncanny popularity (often leading the All-Star team) and being picked first, but nevertheless he is ready to WIN.&nbsp; With a big heart and an even bigger gut, he is hungry for his first MasterBowl title to finally prove he is worth something.&nbsp; In his first ever MasterBowl appearance, we can only hope our wayward son will finally find his way home.<br /><br />The Spread Eagles franchised player, [b]HumanBones[/b] has taken a break from captaining to join forces with Shadow_Ghost in the quest for a title.&nbsp; HumanBones is the [b]only[/b] player in the IDL to not only play in every season but also to make the playoffs in every season as well.&nbsp; However, he will be directly at odds with his personal curse, owning an impressive 5-0 record over Ralphis in the regular season but a much less impressive 0-2 post season record.&nbsp; This will be the first MasterBowl he has attended since he joined The Virgin Roster to upset PAK in Winter 2008.&nbsp; This will also be his 3rd consecutive placement in a top 4 or better position to end his season.<br /><br />[b]Metalblack[/b] is another impressive addition to this already impressive roster, being one of the primary members of the first team to have a perfect regular season.&nbsp; Besides being a back-to-back WDC conference champion, he is a well rounded player and maintains one of the best flag ratios this season among offensive players.&nbsp; It remains to be seen exactly how he will be utilized during the match, but much will rest on his continued consistent performance.<br /><br />[b]Goatface[/b] rejoins ex-pakki Metalblack to help propel this team to victory.&nbsp; Not only an intelligent player, he is also the best doomer currently residing in Idaho and leader of undefeated clan DFS.&nbsp; He has been playing in the league since its birth and while he has not started in as many games this season, don&#039;t let that fool you, he is more experienced than he lets on.<br /><br />[center][img]http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4489/gickrcom682bb1f5d85a699.gif[/img][/center]<br /><br />Now we can approach the map to discuss specific features and strategies which may be attempted come gametime.&nbsp; The aptly named, Redemption II, Zductf Map30 will be the final meeting place of these two powerful teams.<br /><br />But what exactly is this map, what makes it special?&nbsp; Some of you might not remember its IDL debut in Winter 2009 Week 2, just as I am sure others of you do.&nbsp; Featuring two identical bases, each base has 2 seperate lift mechanisms.&nbsp; There are 2 lifts, one immediately closing off the underground spawn area from the flag room and a second linked pair of lifts inside that underground spawn area.&nbsp; The rear lifts trades off speed and power in favor of health and trickiness, while the foremost lift does exactly the opposite.<br /><br />Spawns are divided into two areas, either underground behind the foremost lift, or up top.&nbsp; Runners need to be well aware of these spawns and be capable of adjusting their running on the fly to be able to decide how best to run each flag.&nbsp; The underground spawns are perhaps the most vulnerable spawns on the map, since the Super Shotgun is not picked up immediately but only after a slight delay and chasing can be nearly impossible.&nbsp; Also located in a small cubbyhole between the base exits, is the Plasma Gun, used correctly on a smaller map like this it can certainly be an offensive or defensive boon, we will see if either team breaks it out to help attain victory.<br /><br />Finally and most importantly in my opinion, we have the middle area.&nbsp; Nothing more than a simple rectangular room, the middle is home to a mega armor and 2 small cubbyholes with rocket launchers inside and is connected to each base by two widely spaced downward stairways.&nbsp; An effective middle lock-down would give a team control of the mega armor and the rocket launchers.&nbsp; This would let their runner make more effective runs and perhaps even rocket jump out of the flag pit to grab some easier scores.&nbsp; <br /><br />I think this will ultimately be one of the most exciting MasterBowls to date, featuring the two #1 seeds for the first time since the leagues inception, on a very small, chaotic map rewarding technical skill and teamwork equally.&nbsp; Who will redeem themselves and who will fall short?&nbsp; Don&#039;t miss it on your life!<br /><br />[center][size=3][i]So who do you think will win?[/i][/size][/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2399, 264, 3, 1282962372, 73, 2399, 'Re: Expansion Names', 'Quiksilver', 'joshbryantmusic@gmail.com', '68.57.224.163', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Beast link=topic=264.msg2397#msg2397 date=1282940528]<br />Barrels o&#039; Falcons<br />[/quote]<br /><br />lol', 'xx', 1);
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	(3373, 382, 1, 1297143973, 163, 3373, 'Re: Top 5 EGOS', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.34.210.163', 1, 1297144144, 'Hatred', '5. Tai - Rust pretty much nailed it on the head with him. The only thing I&#039;d add on top of that is that Tai is an okay player but could be much better if he&#039;d listen to people and stop playing dumb.<br /><br />4. Ralphis - To be honest, a lot of people seem to think of Ralph as a jerk but regardless of what happens on the battlefield, he is very quick to be humble and respectful in victory or defeat. That&#039;s why I wouldn&#039;t put him so high. That being said, the guy still has an enormous ego, not to mention an enormous bald-spot. It&#039;s possible this could go hand and hand and if we could just shave the rest of his head and call him a fat Stone Cold, then maybe he&#039;d finally be able to justify his ego by finally stunning Kilgore out of the game for good.<br /><br />3. Nostar - This guy smells of egotistical juices everywhere he goes. He takes his self-proclaimed stance as the best defender in the IDL to an entirely different level than anybody else. Just the other day, he was hiding in his bushes waiting for the mailman to drop off some mail and raise the flag on his box. As soon as the mailman raised the flag, sirens went off with the ZVOX voice screaming &quot;Red Flag Taken,&quot; of course the mailman is freaking out at this point not knowing what the hell is going on so he freezes for a second. In that very second of frozen-ness, Star appears with his double-barreled, removes this guy&#039;s torso and puts his flag back down on the mailbox. Immediately afterward, he puts one foot on the dead man&#039;s chest and simply says &quot;rocked&quot; and casually goes back inside waiting for tomorrows CTF run.<br /><br />2 - DevastatioN - many of you have forgotten about the almighty DooMGoD reining from Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. This guy here will not only tell you how terrible you are at DooM, what you need to do to improve, but he&#039;ll take it a step further and turn it into a chemical formula with mathematical equations and shit. All the while, he&#039;ll be telling you how good he is and that you&#039;ll never be what he is. Who else dedicates a forum website and own personal site to their DooM name? Does that not scream ego? I believe it does. This is why Dev is number 2 on my list.<br /><br />1. Jenova - He&#039;s the most egotistical, no doubt about it! This guy here is something else. He&#039;ll take your flag, have his mid clear, park by his flag, eat a sandwich, tell everyone how great he is and score with keyboard only while broadcasting it live on his own stream. We all know how he went berserk after defeating Nostar&#039;s Cowboys last season but I don&#039;t think it was that big of a deal. People just need to have thick skin. However, when dealing with Jenova, I&#039;d advise you to not only have thick-skin, but a pistol as well. That&#039;s probably the only way you&#039;ll shut him up. <br /><br />Also, I like all of these guys. Their egos drive them and is it any coincidence that the guys mentioned on this list are considered some of the best players in the world? I have absolutely no problem with egos, I simply laugh when the shit gets talked but not backed-up. Even then, it&#039;s all about a flare for the dramatics and a way to motivate yourself as well as your team. I think all of you should continue to be pompous, arrogant, little-dicked pricks until you&#039;re old, wrinkly and dead as fuck. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4454, 484, 16, 1312340246, 157, 4454, 'Re: Reinstate franchising and editing some of the IDL maps', 'Legion_', 'skulltaglegion@hotmail.com', '71.115.108.20', 1, 0, '', 'lets make the whole floor out of lava and add a script that gibs you if you don&#039;t move for more than one second', 'xx', 1);
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	(1671, 178, 11, 1269122883, 0, 1671, 'Re: Real Talk: IDL Edition [Split from Week7 Playoff Picture]', 'Fastidious', '', '76.238.1.204', 1, 0, '', 'Eh, I know it&#039;s a cool fad to flame Fast and act like I am clueless but I will say this I ran leagues for Quake without major issues generally.&nbsp; We used many of the same ideas there to great effect.&nbsp; These leagues were bigger than the IDL as well.<br /><br />What I meant by connection quality is ping issues, we can&#039;t determine packet loss easily.&nbsp; If some guy is pinging 150ms to TT, when his normal is 30ms to TT, and only 50ms to RN then it is likely the match will be at RN barring other major issues.&nbsp; I think that&#039;s pretty obvious.&nbsp; I don&#039;t see why anyone would object to this.&nbsp; The whole point of submitting your average pings in advance is so servers would be known in advance.<br /><br />Most of the objections to my shit is just further people just objecting to win arguments.&nbsp; I&#039;ll just pick a couple easy ones as examples.<br /><br />[quote author=mikefails link=topic=178.msg1639#msg1639 date=1268245362]Popularity should never be valued over skill.[/quote]<br /><br />What does this even mean?&nbsp; Are you saying the captains right now are the best suited for the job?&nbsp; Are you saying people would just pick the most popular and therefore not qualified people as captains?&nbsp; How do we know until we try it anyhow?&nbsp; I think it would work pretty well.<br /><br />[quote author=mikefails link=topic=178.msg1639#msg1639 date=1268245362]why would any captain with a weak 4th ever play a 4v4 to increase their teams chances of losing?[/quote]<br /><br />For the simple reason the point of the IDL is to play Doom.&nbsp; If both teams have four the chances are both of their 4ths are going to be on the weaker side anyways.&nbsp; Then everyone is happy and gets to play if both teams want.&nbsp; I just find it funny how people take it like the IDL is some super competitive league when the draft decides who is going to win or lose most of the time anyways.&nbsp; Even teams that look good on paper don&#039;t always do well but the draft is the biggest single factor in the outcome of a season.<br /><br />[quote author=mikefails link=topic=178.msg1639#msg1639 date=1268245362]Also this voting can create problems either through a low turnout which would not accurately represent what the players want, or alienating players who get their favorite map edged out by something they deem to be CRAP.[/quote]<br /><br />Sure but at least people would have an official invite to participate in the process.&nbsp; There will always be objections to anything and everything, you can rationalize anything.<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna link=topic=178.msg1635#msg1635 date=1268201792]But it&#039;s an enormous amount of organization and work, especially for Ralphis (or whoever compiles the WAD).&nbsp; It&#039;s actually so much work that Ralphis only does it once a year, and hates it the whole time.[/quote]<br /><br />Yeah but someone is going to have to do it, I&#039;m sure someone will keep stepping up no matter what or we&#039;ll just end up using IDL2010h.wad forever.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think it&#039;d necessarily be anymore work if players managed and voted on most maps.&nbsp; That would remove most of the map picking process from the board.<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna link=topic=178.msg1635#msg1635 date=1268201792]It could also lead to a big bitchfest about what maps are chosen.[/quote]<br /><br />So?&nbsp; I think it&#039;d be great if people were move involved.&nbsp; I&#039;d rather have it be a big bitch fest than nothing.&nbsp; Even in the worst stupid flame wars or bitching sessions something good usually comes out of it.<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna link=topic=178.msg1635#msg1635 date=1268201792]What I guess I mean is it opens IDL up to the same kind of criticisms that ZDDL gets every year:[/quote]<br /><br />I don&#039;t buy that because the IDL would have 32 maps or whatever which is such a huge number.&nbsp; Most other competitive FPS games use 3 to 7 maps on average which are used over and over for years.&nbsp; RTS games use a ton of maps however which is cool.&nbsp; Personally I like to do new maps now and then but I don&#039;t like being forced to give up old favorites at the expense of questionable new maps.&nbsp; If teams had a large 32 wad of IDL approved maps to choose from there would be a lot of variety.&nbsp; Perhaps we could reserve 5 maps or whatever every season to maps not in the previous wad or new maps, etc so there would always be change.<br /><br />In general I also think a shorter season will cut down on teams needing to be reinforced.&nbsp; If teams have problems they should be forced to act quickly as well.&nbsp; In the past the league has let teams not replace players or just wait it out, which is utterly stupid since it hurts not just that team and their players but the league as a whole, especially if their team ends up doing a lot worse.&nbsp; It hasn&#039;t happened as much lately but it still happens.&nbsp; A good example this season would be Rosebird who should have been replaced.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8523, 843, 17, 1361664160, 19, 8523, 'Re: Franchising.', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '184.1.248.204', 1, 0, '', 'It&#039;s presumptuous to apply your desire to play with only a certain few to all the more veteran players who didn&#039;t play this season as the reason they didn&#039;t sign up.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8578, 827, 17, 1362019309, 214, 8578, 'Re: Someone else quits', 'RustInPeace', 'ru5tk1ng@yahoo.com', '65.68.75.60', 1, 0, '', 'Just a bit of an update for those of you who have not heard the recent news. MapleSucka returned from his grand departure of Doom after a stunning 2 weeks. Let&#039;s give a round of applause to Soul for keeping himself away from Doom for such a long period of time. Living in Doom world forever.......&nbsp; 8)', 'xx', 1);
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	(6627, 641, 18, 1333413735, 0, 6627, 'Re: Winter 2012 MasterBowl Champions: SGS', 'Soul Sucka', '', '177.42.25.212', 1, 0, '', 'Congratulations SGS! Unstoppable. :-*<br /><br />[quote author=Ten link=topic=641.msg6626#msg6626 date=1333411906]<br />edit: forgot about week 5 against SUC. nevermind!<br />[/quote]<br />Week 1 vs WAD was also a three rounder.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1180, 143, 11, 1259911645, 10, 1680, 'W2010 Free Agents - Trade History', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.15.110.27', 1, 1269202550, 'mikefails', '[hr]<br />[center][size=20pt][b]IDL Free Agency[/b][/size]<br /><br />Brainthunk<br />Collision<br />Fluffles<br />HeavenWraith<br />Killemall<br />Mistopher<br />Roscoe<br />X-Ray<br /><br />[hr]<br />[b][size=18pt]Withdrawn/Dismissed[/size][/b]<br /><br />None<br />[hr]<br />[b][size=18pt]Winter 2010 TRADE HISTORY[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=16pt][color=blue]International Doom Conference[/color][/size][/b]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Electric Bills (EBL)[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]Traded Collision to Free Agency in exchange for Strangle (Week 3)[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Killing Browns (KBR)[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Transactions[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Doom Raiders (DMR)[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Transactions[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Super Chargers (SUC)[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]Traded Rosebird + 1st Homefield Pick to BSK in exchange for Fastidious + 3rd Homefield Pick (Pre-Season)[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[b][size=16pt][color=red]World Doom Conference[/color][/size][/b]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Berserker Packers (BSK)[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]Traded Fastidious + 3rd Homefield Pick to SUC in exchange for Rosebird + 1st Homefield Pick (Pre-Season)[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Spread Eagles (SPE)[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Transactions[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Brokeback Cowboys (BBC)[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]Traded Acolyte to Free Agency in exchange for Nero (Week 4)[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Flag Steelers (FLS)[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Transactions[/li]<br />[/list][/center]', 'lamp', 1);
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	(1664, 187, 11, 1269109438, 2, 1680, 'Re: IDL WINTER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.46.242', 1, 1269203329, 'mikefails', 'INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE<br />Devastatio[u][i][b]N[/b][/i][/u]<br />Ralphis<br />Nostar<br />Killingblair<br />Xenaero<br /><br />WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE<br />Humanbones<br />Whiteboy<br />Rottking<br />Metalblack<br />Gyrossman', 'xx', 1);
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	(1681, 187, 11, 1269211172, 7, 1681, 'Re: IDL WINTER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '99.50.227.67', 1, 0, '', 'IDC:<br />mikehail<br />DevastatioN (had trouble picking over Oath tbh)<br />Jenova<br />Nostar<br />Ralphis<br /><br />WDC:<br /><br />Whiteboy567<br />Sabertooth<br />Gyrossman<br />HumanBones<br />ItalianStallion<br /><br />Only being able to pick 5 almost killed me, I agonized for days.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1764, 199, 12, 1272636340, 73, 1765, 'Re: IDL Summer 2010 Signups Open', 'Quiksilver', 'joshbryantmusic@gmail.com', '174.132.127.186', 1, 1272644255, 'Quiksilver', 'Name: Quik<br />Country: The States<br />Contact: joshbryantmusic@gmail.com<br />Available 24/7/365 but I am est.<br />My email is attached to my bberry, and this season I&#039;m free all the time. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(2123, 226, 12, 1279676215, 75, 2123, 'Re: IDEA: Tiebreaker Rule Change', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.179.159', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Whiteboy567 link=topic=226.msg2088#msg2088 date=1278966797]<br />[quote author=Jenova link=topic=226.msg2083#msg2083 date=1278918774]<br />[quote author=Tony link=topic=226.msg2065#msg2065 date=1278850637]<br />[quote author=Tai link=topic=226.msg1978#msg1978 date=1277563566]<br />[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=226.msg1974#msg1974 date=1277395393]<br />No one cares about tennis.<br />[/quote]<br />[/quote]<br />[/quote]<br />[/quote]<br />[/quote]<br />[img]http://www.celebritiesfans.com/Pic/mariasharapova.jpg[/img]<br />tennis is cool in europe.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1696, 189, 11, 1269230430, 10, 1696, 'Re: BYE Week Poll', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'Personally enjoy the bye week as each season I look forward to having a week where I don&#039;t have to play at all. I schedule some real life events during this time usually too knowing this (since IDL games are typically weekends).', 'xx', 1);
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	(2125, 239, 12, 1279727079, 10, 2125, 'Re: Week 7 (Jul 19 - Jul 25) : 32in24-7 MAP27 (MAP32) - Discussion and Results', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', '[center][img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/SuperChargers-small.png[/img] [size=15pt]-vs-[/size] [img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/BrokeBackCowboys-small.png[/img]<br />[color=red][size=3][u][b]RALPHIS&#039; GAME OF THE WEEK[/b][/u][/size][/color][/center]<br /><br />	Late season match up between the two top teams in the league? Both captains were partnered on last season&#039;s MB squad? Potential MB VIII matchup? The NFL wishes they could schedule like this.<br /><br />[center][img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/SpreadEagles-small.png[/img] [size=15pt]-vs-[/size] [img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/FlagSteelers-small.png[/img][/center]<br /><br />	A Play-In game with one week to go? A win by either team here clinches the wildcard for them so this is the most important game for both teams this regular season. In the case of a tie, the wildcard spot could still be up for grabs in week 9 depending on who wins. A tie this week would require SPE to win and FLS to lose week 9 for an Eagles playoff berth, otherwise the Steelers will likely meet the #2 seed.<br /><br />	Unfortunately for the Spread Eagles, the Flag Steelers have a potent offense built for maps like this. Expect LordBritish to perform some high flying moves while Ladna and RussianDumbass hold off the Eagles&#039; relatively grounded offense. If SPE can score early and then hold off FLS&#039; defense, they have a shot.<br /><br />[center][i]Mantis-X&#039;s 100% playoff berth streak in the IDL ends this season after the Steelers clip the Birds&#039; wings.[/i]<br />[b]SPE 0-2 FLS[/b][/center]<br /><br />[center][img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/ElectricBills-small.png[/img] [size=15pt]-vs-[/size] [img]http://sites.google.com/site/xenaero/DoomRaiders-small.png[/img][/center]<br /><br />	What once looked like DMR&#039;s easiest game of the season now looks like the nail in the coffin. The Raiders traded #2 overall pick, Hatred, to the Bills right around the deadline and now this might come back to haunt them. For the Raiders to make a playoff berth, they have to defeat the Bills this week, win over the Eagles in week 9, and hope that the highly ranked Berserker Packers can fend off the Bills as well. If these conditions are met, Goatface and his Raiders may pull off one of the most heroic runs into the playoffs in IDL history.<br /><br />	This is unlikely of course. The Bills got a shot in the arm and haven&#039;t lost since Hatred has joined their roster (1-0-1). With a squad poised for a potential championship run now, it is likely the Bills will simply overpower the Raiders this week. In order for the Raiders to win, they&#039;ll have to have Acolyte show up and support the defense while they pound a heavy offense. <br /><br />[i]The Raiders need the perfect storm for an upset and it doesn&#039;t look like it&#039;s in the forecast, but weather men have been known to be wrong before.[/i]<br />[center][b]EBL 2-0 DMR[/b][/center]<br /><br />[center][img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/BerserkerPackers-small.png[/img] [size=15pt]-vs-[/size] [img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/KillingBrowns-small.png[/img][/center]<br /><br />	On the surface, this game looks like the least meaningful game of this week. However, for both of these teams, it is anything but. If the Browns can win one more game and have the Bills lose one more, they will win the division (also if the Browns win out). The Packers can still capture the #1 seed under very specific conditions. For the Packers to get homefield advantage through the playoffs, they&#039;ll have to win their final two games while the Brokeback Cowboys lose both games.<br /><br />[i]The Berserker Packers are on the second longest winning streak in the league (3 wins) and will likely extend that by one more this week as they look to enter the playoffs hot.[/i]<br />[center][b]BSK 2-0 KGB[/b][/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2143, 241, 1, 1280508510, 163, 2143, 'Re: What the IDL community needs a lot less of...', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '72.240.150.213', 1, 0, '', 'Who the fuck is that? He looks like a fat alexmax or something. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4501, 488, 16, 1312731344, 1328, 4501, 'Re: week 9 dmc vs. dmr incident', 'Mobius', 'hustler_0ne@hotmail.com', '173.2.45.53', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/m/miketenay/03.jpg[/img]<br /><br />OH NO! IDL IS FALLING APART! THERE&#039;S DESCENSION IN THE RANKS!', 'xx', 1);
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	(2141, 240, 12, 1280500464, 147, 2141, 'Re: Week 8 (Jul 26 - Aug 1) : 32in24-4 MAP31 (MAP31) - Discussion and Results', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.93.251.5', 1, 0, '', 'SUC - KGB<br /><br />I actually kinda like KGB here.&nbsp; I&#039;m not sure what is up, but I can&#039;t bring myself to pick against them.&nbsp; Is that what 3 hours of sleep does to someone?<br /><br />KGB 2-1, LB premonition?<br /><br />SPE - DMR<br /><br />A tailor-made SPE map, if Blair&#039;s connection doesn&#039;t crap out on him.&nbsp; He will loan fiber shot to Denny and Mantis, which will make for a relentless assault.<br /><br />SPE 2-0<br /><br />BSK - EBL<br /><br />EBL is in some pseudo-turmoil, but they will probably feel that if they win this game, they can earn homefield.&nbsp; That being said, it will be no east task against the red-hot Packers.&nbsp; This JenXen conflict is sure to impress, and depending on how nuts whiteboy goes, it could end well for the bills, but...<br /><br />BSK 2-0-1<br /><br />FLS - BBC<br /><br />I have a tendency to utterly destroy nostar on maps like this, but I also have a tendency to lag during big games.<br /><br />BBC 2-0', 'xx', 1);
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	(3374, 382, 1, 1297146480, 19, 3374, 'Re: Top 5 EGOS', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.9.178', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;m almost disappointed I&#039;m on no one&#039;s list. I need to mouth off more.', 'xx', 1);
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	(5769, 552, 17, 1324625301, 3, 5769, 'Re: Montreal Server', 'Joshsmith', 'tonihawker666@yahoo.com', '99.9.212.71', 1, 0, '', 'Two things:<br /><br />1) TT clearly stalls at the end of pretty much every match played for unexplained reasons, at least it has for a while now. Maybe this was recently fixed, but at the time of this thread posting it was not.<br /><br />2) Even if there is some placebo effect, if the players are happier to play on a server, shouldn&#039;t that be the bottom line?<br /><br />Maybe you&#039;re thinking long term, but if players start to complain about Montreal as well, then that could be another time to look for other servers.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1682, 189, 11, 1269215217, 7, 1684, 'BYE Week Poll', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '99.50.227.67', 1, 1269215384, 'Ladna', 'The board is looking for community input RE: BYE week.&nbsp; Vote now!', 'question', 1);
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	(1685, 192, 11, 1269215536, 7, 1685, 'Season Length Poll', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '99.50.227.67', 1, 0, '', 'The board is looking for community input about the length of the season.&nbsp; Vote now!', 'question', 1);
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	(4275, 455, 16, 1309943096, 10, 4275, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '98.225.144.111', 1, 0, '', 'Nobody is saying a rule change is dumb, just that your team and the league broke the league rules.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6628, 641, 18, 1333424370, 163, 6628, 'Re: Winter 2012 MasterBowl Champions: SGS', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.39.26.57', 1, 0, '', 'We never lost a round but we did tie in 5 rounds. We had 3 games that went 3 rounds, which were WAD (3-2, 4-4, 4-3), KNF (4-4, 5-2, 5-2) and SUC (0-0, 2-2, 1-1). ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4154, 443, 18, 1307385161, 130, 4154, 'Re: Week 1 (Jun 6 - Jun 12) : ZDCTF26 (MAP 26) - Discussion and Results', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '208.54.37.223', 1, 0, '', 'As always stall your post is both eloquent and well though out. Go play more hockey you leafer.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8452, 782, 17, 1361262231, 4, 8452, 'Re: IDL Site Hosting', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '50.88.51.175', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Jenova link=topic=782.msg8448#msg8448 date=1361229329]<br />I have a bunch of servers and already host a ton of stuff (not using all of my resources at the moment). I could probably host if you&#039;re willing to zip up / dump the database and point the domain to one of my server&#039;s IP addresses. Of course, as per usual, I&#039;ll be doing this for free, so you don&#039;t have to worry about paying for hosting or whatever.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?topic=655.msg6715#msg6715<br /><br />It won&#039;t be long now...the International Jenova League is on the horizons.', 'xx', 1);
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	(7320, 716, 17, 1345437054, 214, 7344, 'SECOND SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'RustInPeace', 'sindeception@yahoo.com', '65.71.125.121', 1, 1345571430, 'Ru5tK1ng', 'Now that I have a bit more pull and since Mass got mauled by bears on his hiking trip, I can take control of the Mapping Contest (idea I had before mass) and help bring in some new maps into existence. Hopefully with a few adjustments, this contest can be an even bigger success than the last. So let&#039;s get started:<br /><br />[b]How do I play?[/b]<br /><br />1. Obtain a copy of Doom Builder 2: [url=http://www.doombuilder.com/index.php?p=downloads]http://www.doombuilder.com/index.php?p=downloads[/url]<br />2. Download the texture wad: [url=http://static.totaltrash.org/ctftex1c.zip]http://static.totaltrash.org/ctftex1c.zip[/url]<br />3. Add the wad to the Boom Configuration and link the texture resources and paint your map with its colors.<br />4. Use CTF standard things: http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Capture_the_Flag<br />5. You may use ZDoom configuration to build your map. However, you must stay within v. 1.22. <br />6. You can also use WadAuthor if you want to learn the basics quick and map a simpler design.<br /><br /><br />If you do not know how to map, it&#039;s easy.&nbsp; I strongly recommend Doom Builder&#039;s tutorials:<br />[url=http://www.doombuilder.com/index.php?p=tutorials]http://www.doombuilder.com/index.php?p=tutorials[/url]<br />and hesitantly recommend youtube tutorials:<br />[url=http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Doom+Builder+2+Tutorial&amp;aq=f]http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Doom+Builder+2+Tutorial&amp;aq=f[/url]<br /><br />Any further questions can be directed to me or simply posted in this topic. Keep in mind that I will not tutor you or basically make your map for you, [s]unless I like you[/s].<br /><br />[b]What rules do I have to follow?[/b]<br /><br />[u]Maps must be an original work[/u]. Maps that are submitted must not exist in any published project whether it be a beta or final. The only exception is if the map has a considerable amount of rework to the point where it is nearly completely different. I will be the judge of the amount of difference. Authors must notify me if they are using [b]their[/b] existing work as a base to start from. If you do not tell me, I will nuke your map. Just make it easier and start from scratch.<br /><br />[u]You must use the resource wad[/u]. This keeps the process of putting all the maps together easy. If you want to use custom textures, you must include them with your submission preferably in the same zip as your map. A couple of custom textures are fine but if you give me 20 textures I will tell you to re-texture your map. The resource wad has enough textures to satisfy your needs.<br /><br />[u]You can submit your own midi[/u]. I won&#039;t mind putting in music for authors as long as it isn&#039;t an mp3 or flac. However, keep in mind that Ralphis has a history of putting in his own (terrible) music when he compiles the IDL wad.<br /><br />[u]You can submit up to two maps[/u]. However, depending on the amount of participants, I may allow more submissions from an author if there is room in the wad. I&#039;m not making any promises though!<br /><br />[u]Submit your maps in this topic[/u]. You may use this topic to post your submissions as well. You can also PM me your maps on IRC; irc.quakenet.org #idl. However, I have a tendency to [s]ignore irc[/s] time out a lot and I&#039;m not always at my computer.<br /><br />[u]Use proper naming conventions[/u]. Do not give me a wad named idlsubmission1a then proceed to give me a wad titled idlmapretexuturev2. Use the following format: idlsubmiss-username-v1 etc. If you are going to submit 2 maps put them in the same wad, change the version accordingly and notify me.<br /><br />[u]Your map must work in Odamex[/u]. If you use some crazy ZDoom feature not currently supported, your map will probably break itself. It should go without saying that you should test your map in Oda while you are developing it.<br /><br />[u]The deadline is September 17th[/u]. That is about 4 weeks of time alotted. It should be more than enough time, especially for those that wait til the last minute.<br /><br />[b]How do I win?[/b]<br /><br />The best map(s) will be determined by a vote of the IDL board. Players can also also give input either directly to board members or via a discussion topic. [u]However, playtesting the maps is the absolute best way to ensure maps are fit for the IDL.[/u] I urge everyone to take part in the 3v3 sessions we&#039;ll be hosting in the near future.<br /><br />[b]What do I win?[/b]<br /><br />If your map wins, it will be placed into the next IDL wad (2013). What this means is that it could be featured on the schedule for upcoming seasons, possibly be played in priv (oda/zandro), and kept in the wad for a very long time if it&#039;s really good.<br /><br />[b]Tips on making a good ctf map:[/b]<br /><br />Keep it small/medium--Sanguinary Longshot is not popular; ReakuCTF is not popular; Under Siege (zdmp3) IS NOT POPULAR. They are maps designed for gigantic matches and not for the 3v3 style employed by the IDL.<br /><br />Keep it straightforward--Nobody likes getting lost in the middle of a map except [s]Chaindude[/s] Mionic Donut. It should be presently clear at all times where one is and where both flags are. If you are going to go crazy, distinguish your rooms well enough so we don&#039;t have to use automap to maneuver around.<br /><br />Keep it outside the box--Literally. While map01 and 04 are popular maps, I encourage participants to move beyond creating a square base with ssg spawns connected to the other square base via a square, barren mid.<br /><br />Keep it fairly plain--The success of map20 demonstrates that a map doesn&#039;t need a lot of fancy textures to be fun.&nbsp; The success of map22 demonstrates that maps can be considered good _in spite of_ those textures. (J/K Luv ya Rott). We are looking for structural playability more than pretty, flashy maps. I will allow the winners to polish up their maps to their heart&#039;s desire while the IDL wad is in construction. This means you will have to work with Ralphis regarding resources and textures.<br /><br />Keep the gimmicks down--We are looking for quality maps fit for competition, not pub. No weird asymmetrical designs like grotesque map10 unless you know what you are doing. If you are going to do something crazy, make sure you put enough thought into the map so it makes sense and doesn&#039;t end up as a mess.<br /><br />Keep it gay.<br /><br />[u]Example maps can be found here[/u]: <br />Last year&#039;s contest: http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?topic=483.0<br /><br />Last year&#039;s altdeath posting: [url=http://www.altdeath.com/fluxbb/viewtopic.php?id=171]http://www.altdeath.com/fluxbb/viewtopic.php?id=171[/url]<br /><br /><br />Disclaimer: I may change any details about this contest at any time.<br /><br />[b]What else is there?[/b]<br /><br />If there are any lingering questions, feel free to ask them here and I will address them as quickly as I can [b]as long as questions pertain to the contest[/b]. Good luck to everyone and happy mapping.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1687, 194, 11, 1269217021, 7, 1687, 'Map Poll', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '99.50.227.67', 1, 0, '', 'The board is looking for community input about how maps should be chosen for games.&nbsp; Vote now!<br /><br />P.S. Also feel free to add any other ideas here, it&#039;s kind of hard to explain everything using the poll.', 'question', 1);
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	(1683, 190, 11, 1269215308, 7, 1687, 'Franchise Player Poll', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '99.50.227.67', 1, 1269217094, 'Ladna', 'The board is looking for community input about franchising players.&nbsp; Vote now!', 'question', 1);
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	(1686, 193, 11, 1269216139, 7, 1687, 'Multiple Games per Week Poll', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '99.50.227.67', 1, 1269217112, 'Ladna', 'The board is looking for community input about multiple games/week.&nbsp; Vote now!<br /><br />P.S. This can be implemented in lots of different ways, like needing to have so many games played by Week 4 or whatever, or simply saying you have to have 2 games played each week or 3 games played every 2 weeks.&nbsp; Feel free to comment in the thread.', 'question', 1);
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	(1688, 187, 11, 1269221598, 49, 1688, 'Re: IDL WINTER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '24.154.81.230', 1, 0, '', '<br />[center][color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color]<br />Jenova<br />LordBritish<br />Ralphis<br />Nostar<br />Oath<br />[/center]<br /><br />[center][color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color]<br />ItalianStallion<br />Bones<br />RottKing<br />Mantis<br />Whiteboy<br />[/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(1765, 199, 12, 1272637565, 171, 1765, 'Re: IDL Summer 2010 Signups Open', 'Vampire Knight', 'darkknight2019@msn.com', '188.222.53.92', 1, 0, '', 'Name: Vampire Knight (aka Vampire, [NK]Vampire)<br />Country: England<br />Email contact: Darkknight2019@msn.com<br />Instant Message Contact: N/A<br />Regular Availability: Generally anytime upto 8pm (US time)<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(1690, 195, 11, 1269228123, 15, 1690, 'The People''s Champ', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.93.225', 1, 0, '', 'Topic says it all.<br />No voting for yourself!<br /><br /><br /><br />Gogogogogogogogogo', 'xx', 1);
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	(1691, 195, 11, 1269228581, 10, 1691, 'Re: The People''s Champ', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'Cannot vote', 'xx', 1);
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	(1692, 192, 11, 1269228581, 15, 1692, 'Re: Season Length Poll', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.93.225', 1, 0, '', 'Make season&#039;s shorter, keeping people into it.&nbsp; People seem to lose interest around after week 6ish.&nbsp; Almost impossible to practice in the later weeks of the season.&nbsp; Also reducing the time between seasons would keep players more active between seasons, people wouldn&#039;t disappear as much.&nbsp; <br /><br />Also the fact that people have a bad season, this method wouldn&#039;t scare them off.&nbsp; If you&#039;re stuck with a bad team for an entire season now, it takes a while to get into a new team and have an overall better IDL experience.&nbsp; And people don&#039;t have to feel like they&#039;ve wasted a whole deal of time on a bad season.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1693, 187, 11, 1269229043, 69, 1693, 'Re: IDL WINTER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'Goatface', 'roger.banango@gmail.com', '98.145.86.182', 1, 0, '', '[b][color=blue]International Doom Conference[/color][/b]<br />Ralphis<br />Fastidious<br />Jenova<br />Tai<br />DevastatioN<br /><br />[b][color=red]World Doom Conference[/color][/b]<br />ItalianStallion<br />Whiteboy567<br />HumanBones<br />Shadow_Ghost<br />METALBLACK', 'xx', 1);
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	(1694, 195, 11, 1269229077, 7, 1694, 'Re: The People''s Champ', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'Mr. Lord British', 'xx', 1);
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	(1986, 228, 12, 1277786416, 130, 1986, 'Re: Week 4 (Jun 28 - Jul 4) : ZDECTF05 (MAP05) - Discussion and Results', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 1277786892, 'nostar', 'I&#039;m in kind of a sore mood. This will be harsh<br /><br />[center][img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/SpreadEagles-small.png[/img] [size=15pt]-vs-[/size] [img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/BerserkerPackers-small.png[/img][/center]<br /><br />SPE is Blair being unreliable, Denny trying to superman fragwhore and Mantis either being good at a map or crapping.<br /><br />That being said BSK has shown to be junk. Jenova offered to trade me himself for miek and I said &quot;Fuck of Canuck, USA #1!&quot;. I think that this is a map where, even tho BSK sucks hard, they will win. Blair will setup a tent in the base like a very naive defender does and he&#039;ll get botched in face. Calls em like I sees em.<br /><br />[center][i]Fun to watch because of how bad these guys are.[/i]<br />[b]SPE 0-2 BSK[/b][/center]<br /><br />[center][img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/DoomRaiders-small.png[/img] [size=15pt]-vs-[/size] [img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/KillingBrowns-small.png[/img]<br />[color=red][size=3][u][b]GAME OF THE WEEK[/b][/u][/size][/color][/center]<br />It actually looks like DMR might go winless. KGB is no pearl, actually they have a #2 guy who just quits practicing whenever he sees shiny things. Xray is solid but on a bad team, I kinda regret him and hatred being on such hopeless teams but that is the nature of IDL. I was on VGR, Ladna is on FLS, miek was on every other bad team. It&#039;s a right of passage I suppose. Yeah I know Bones fixed VGR, shut up. Anyway DMR winless and staying that way, even tho Tai is handicapped.<br /><br />[center][i]The Doom Raiders continue in their emulation of SNAX[/i]<br />[b]DMR 0-2 KGB[/b][/center]<br /><br />[center][img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/ElectricBills-small.png[/img] [size=15pt]-vs-[/size] [img]http://sites.google.com/site/xenaero/BrokeBackCowboys-small.png[/img][/center]<br /><br />I actually see EBL in the conference finals, and if Ralph picks a gay map they&#039;ll probably lose. However this will be EBL&#039;s 4th consecutive loss. I suggest started next week on beating the tar outta KGB and retaking yr DIV over the proceeding 4 weeks. I&#039;ll help out by beating their faces in on map01. Actually looking at their schedule KGB will lose at least their last 3 weeks. EBL make it 4 weeks of crying!<br /><br />[center][b]Start next week. BBC is steamrolling u a bazillion to nothin[/b][/center]<br /><br />[center][img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/SuperChargers-small.png[/img] [size=15pt]-vs-[/size] [img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/FlagSteelers-small.png[/img][/center]<br /><br />Rus is no good at this map. LB is no good at any map and Wraith is stupid as a rock. SUC will win because Ladna has to get laid or smth. GL Ladna, double bag that shit.<br /><br />[center][i]The Steelers suck a ton and lose to the map[/i]<br />[b]FLS 0-2 SUC[/b][/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(1840, 216, 5, 1274392814, 22, 1840, 'Re: Team Expansion', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '69.156.28.188', 1, 0, '', 'I Dunno its really last minute but I wouldnt mind a move to 10 teams', 'xx', 1);
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	(2074, 234, 3, 1278908057, 147, 2074, 'Re: Hello', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.93.251.5', 1, 0, '', 'Yeah these guys got it spot on, hang out in #idl, play priv, and being a pretty cool guy has its benefits too.&nbsp; People tend to not like assholes.&nbsp; But yeah I know you&#039;re a good player and you should do pretty well.&nbsp; I&#039;m rooting for you!', 'xx', 1);
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	(2103, 237, 12, 1279053667, 7, 2103, 'Re: Uploading Demos', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 1279054144, 'Ladna', 'White: No, sorry, I didn&#039;t even check that thread.&nbsp; I&#039;ll do it.<br /><br />Blair: [s]If you can find that demo again upload it, otherwise don&#039;t worry about it.[/s] Got it thanks.<br /><br />Xenaero: I think I did my copy/paste before I uploaded yr demos.<br /><br />All games are now uploaded, everyone please upload them to the site.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1689, 188, 11, 1269223197, 0, 1689, 'Re: IDL Site Open Sourced', 'Fastidious', '', '76.217.98.12', 1, 0, '', 'Ladna you rock man.&nbsp; ', 'xx', 1);
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	(1697, 192, 11, 1269232850, 20, 1697, 'Re: Season Length Poll', 'Mantis-X', 'nesman90@aol.com', '98.25.83.25', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ralphis link=topic=192.msg1695#msg1695 date=1269230341]<br />Against making it shorter. Makes games even more significant to the point where if you lose even three games you&#039;re basically guaranteed to be out of playoff contention.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />But at the same time... Only win about 3 games and you can have a shot at making the playoffs!&nbsp; ;D<br /><br />That being said... I dont know I&#039;m on the fence... <br /><br />Stallion is right that things tend to drop off a bit after week 6 or so... It got harder and harder each week finding 3 people to help us practice.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1698, 189, 11, 1269232964, 20, 1698, 'Re: BYE Week Poll', 'Mantis-X', 'nesman90@aol.com', '98.25.83.25', 1, 0, '', 'I voted &quot;I dont care&quot; ... The Bye week is something I can live with or without... <br /><br />If I HAD to vote one way, I would go for getting rid of it so that way every team has to play all maps on the schedule (which may also go away with the MAP poll)', 'xx', 1);
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	(1699, 195, 11, 1269240679, 22, 1699, 'Re: The People''s Champ', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '24.141.53.160', 1, 0, '', 'Ladna is a god amongst men', 'xx', 1);
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	(1700, 186, 11, 1269240788, 22, 1700, 'Re: IDL Conference Championship Week (Mar 15 - Mar 21) - Discussion and Results', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '24.141.53.160', 1, 0, '', 'http://www.speedyshare.com/files/21557589/IDLPlayoffs-SPEvsBBC-ConfChamps_map14ShadowPOV.108.rar', 'xx', 1);
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	(1701, 195, 11, 1269276298, 75, 1701, 'Re: The People''s Champ', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.179.157', 1, 0, '', 'miek. he&#039;s involved in virutally everything, but evades the responsibility to really lead anything, so he&#039;s a loud voice in the crowd. and he was the irc jester before lb&#039;s return.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6629, 641, 18, 1333439295, 4, 6629, 'Re: Winter 2012 MasterBowl Champions: SGS', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '71.197.24.195', 1, 0, '', 'Yeah I was mixing up &#039;never losing a round&#039; with &#039;never going past two rounds&#039;. Either way it&#039;s still probably an IDL first.', 'xx', 1);
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	(7072, 684, 22, 1340242548, 15, 7072, 'Re: Draft Results Speculation Thread', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '72.53.140.59', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=684.msg7069#msg7069 date=1340226821]<br />[quote]ItalianStallion[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=684.msg7068#msg7068 date=1340226624]<br />Can&#039;t wait to get into the grind with my boy saber. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=684.msg7068#msg7068 date=1340226624]<br />b0yz 4 lyfe<br />[/quote]<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/I0kID.gif[/img]<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I LOVE IT', 'xx', 1);
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	(1766, 199, 12, 1272647526, 147, 1766, 'Re: IDL Summer 2010 Signups Open', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.93.251.5', 1, 0, '', 'Signing up Swiftttttttttttttt<br /><br />Name: Swiftshot<br />Country: England<br />Email: markwwfc1992@hotmail.com<br />MSN: markwwfc1992@hotmail.com<br />Avail: until about 9pm EST', 'xx', 1);
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	(3104, 345, 14, 1293243276, 15, 3104, 'Re: Winter 2010 Post-Draft Discussion &amp; Debate', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.89.132', 1, 0, '', '[b]Berserker Packers[/b]<br /><br />With a top runner in jenova, and a know shut down D in Rottking.&nbsp; I see this team going far.&nbsp; But it will heavily depend on how well dev can adjust himself to a ctf game style.&nbsp; I have never played with dev, so I am completely unaware of how he plays.&nbsp; Not very active in the priv scene so it&#039;s quite the gamble going with him this season.&nbsp; I see BSK finishing close to first place in their div.<br /><br />[b]Spread Eagles[/b]<br /><br />Mantis is a great captain, and is reliable as any other.&nbsp; He&#039;s a veteran in this league and hopefully he can pull it off this season!&nbsp; If there&#039;s no problems with chain&#039;s availabilities, and if prime can step up his game and learn to play in a 3v3 environment.&nbsp; I can see this team taking their div.<br /><br />[b]Sexual Panthers[/b]<br /><br />Humanbones coming back from hibernation!&nbsp; His first pick in Killingblair was a bit of a shocker to me.&nbsp; I really anticipated him to take mikehail this time around.&nbsp; Instead went for a ud buddy.&nbsp; I see either blair or bones playing mid or d this season, and let the running go to dewww.&nbsp; For some reason I just can&#039;t see this team doing well.&nbsp; Bones I feel hasn&#039;t shaken the rust off, and dewww with lag won&#039;t seem to be a force on maps where ping will suffocate him.&nbsp; Maybe a wildcard playoff berth...<br /><br />[b]Flag Steelers[/b]<br /><br />Legion..................................Nuff said.<br /><br />[b]Brokeback Cowboys[/b]<br /><br />I really like the team I went with this season.&nbsp; Being my first season as captain I don&#039;t see this to be a losing team.&nbsp; We got the offensive prowess in LordBritish.&nbsp; Xenaero in mid providing cover for LB and lending some intelligence for my apparent lack of it.&nbsp; With a mix of my stay at home D will sum it up to be a winning team.&nbsp; I see us taking the Div easily.<br /><br />[b]Fnordy Niners[/b]<br /><br />This could be a good team, or it could be an epic bust.&nbsp; I was going to give some of my advice until I realized what I was doing! hahahahahahahah!&nbsp; They&#039;ll probably beat FLS.<br /><br /><br /><br /> ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4498, 485, 18, 1312697371, 2, 4498, 'Re: Week 9 (Aug 1 - Aug 7) ZDE01: Cold Sweats - Discussion and Results', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '24.18.104.99', 1, 0, '', 'GG&#039;s SXP, you guys rocked us hard in round 1 and almost shut us out in round 2, will be interesting to see you next week&nbsp; :P<br /><br />[URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/148/ctf20110806211520.png/][IMG]http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2020/ctf20110806211520.png[/img][/URL]<br />[URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/34/ctf20110806212538.png/][IMG]http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6835/ctf20110806212538.png[/img][/URL]<br />[URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/405/ctf20110806213519.png/][IMG]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3954/ctf20110806213519.png[/img][/URL]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3518, 385, 1, 1297712570, 75, 3518, 'Re: Introduction', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.180.128', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=artificial eyelashes link=topic=385.msg3390#msg3390 date=1297523843]<br />introduce your self<br />[/quote]<br /><br />my self is the sexy, sexy guy you americans invite to your parties to kick it up a notch.<br />[img]http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/party_hard.jpg[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(1703, 195, 11, 1269282896, 0, 1703, 'Re: The People''s Champ', 'Fastidious', '', '76.217.98.12', 1, 0, '', 'Lord British', 'xx', 1);
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	(4276, 455, 16, 1309982285, 16, 4276, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '99.51.246.73', 1, 0, '', 'Cheaters get beaters', 'xx', 1);
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	(4155, 443, 18, 1307385713, 158, 4155, 'Re: Week 1 (Jun 6 - Jun 12) : ZDCTF26 (MAP 26) - Discussion and Results', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '173.206.37.136', 1, 0, '', 'Stall laying it down, saying how it is. To the point and true.', 'xx', 1);
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	(7321, 716, 17, 1345437681, 17, 7321, 'Re: SECOND SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '76.29.49.114', 1, 0, '', 'You know my horrible secret.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1866, 165, 1, 1274639300, 75, 1866, 'Re: fixitfixitfixitfixitfixitfixitfixitfixitfixitfixitfixitfixit', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.179.159', 1, 0, '', 'i&#039;ll start some torrents and beat gyross at this &#039;best&#039; game', 'xx', 1);
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	(8453, 74, 17, 1361285930, 36, 8453, 'Re: IDL Awards [IDEA!]', 'HeX', 'mdvulture@yahoo.com', '75.16.103.188', 1, 0, '', 'Those are all badass Xen!', 'xx', 1);
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	(8863, 499, 1, 1365598668, 267, 8863, 'Re: North America Vs Europe', 'RecKle$$_', 'Aesthesic@hotmail.com', '201.103.85.174', 1, 0, '', 'how is this even going to happen? the elite euro crew is pretty much DEAD', 'xx', 1);
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	(6310, 617, 20, 1330360040, 75, 6310, 'Re: Week 9 Boycott Thread', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '178.209.142.37', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Soul Sucka link=topic=617.msg6309#msg6309 date=1330358633]<br />(though I believe this is fully because the authors themselves were inactive or just impossible to keep in touch with).<br />[/quote]<br />no, this is fully because ralphis didn&#039;t give a flying fuck about obtaining permissions.<br /><br />[quote author=Soul Sucka link=topic=617.msg6309#msg6309 date=1330358633]<br />If that&#039;s the case, then why still bother with integrity?<br />[/quote]<br />the idea of visual &quot;integrity&quot; is a recent one, introduced for the sake of arguing for the original map32 textures. no one gave a flying fuck about visual integrity before, as already proven on the examples of logo textures and flats and the starry sky. also the board immediatelly ruined the integrity precedent by including custom-textured proctf19. <br /><br />the only customary rule was not to change gameplay, because it&#039;d open doors to rampant subjective &quot;improvements.&quot; there are notable exceptions with critical issues like map11 nukage vs. lava, broken splash damage around the whole wad, fixed spawns in map28 and i dunno what else. although one might argue that giving mapEPILEPSY proper textures would alter its gameplay, because more people would be able to actually play it.<br /><br />(opinions and explanations presented in this post might not represent the official board stance)', 'xx', 1);
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	(7322, 716, 17, 1345439002, 19, 7322, 'Re: SECOND SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '184.1.245.86', 1, 0, '', 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A', 'xx', 1);
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	(1706, 195, 11, 1269284764, 130, 1706, 'Re: The People''s Champ', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'Ladna', 'xx', 1);
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	(1707, 194, 11, 1269285139, 75, 1707, 'Re: Map Poll', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.179.157', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=194.msg1705#msg1705 date=1269283554]<br />I&#039;d just like to see matches with multiple maps.&nbsp; I&#039;m not a fan of grinding at one map all week long.&nbsp; Also I think playoff matches being just one map is sorta lame since for whatever reason a team could be quite good at map X but suck at map Y.[/quote]<br />++', 'xx', 1);
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	(1708, 195, 11, 1269295012, 19, 1708, 'Re: The People''s Champ', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '69.68.247.158', 1, 0, '', 'Ladnachievement.<br /><br />See what I did there, LADNA? HUH? BITCH????', 'xx', 1);
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	(1709, 195, 11, 1269296598, 49, 1709, 'Re: The People''s Champ', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '24.154.81.230', 1, 0, '', 'LordBritish', 'xx', 1);
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	(2124, 239, 12, 1279725379, 10, 2124, 'Week 7 (Jul 19 - Jul 25) : 32in24-7 MAP27 (MAP32) - Discussion and Results', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 1279725888, 'Ralphis', '[center][b][size=5]Official Servers for Week 7 of IDL Summer 2010[/size][/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League Week 7 - MAP32 - A][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11022[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League Week 7 - MAP32 - B][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11023[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League Week 7 - MAP32 - C][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11024[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League Week 7 - MAP32 - D][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11025[/b]<br /><br />=======================================================<br />[b]<br />Super Chargers vs Brokeback Cowboys<br /><br />Flag Steelers vs Spread Eagles<br /><br />Electric Bills vs Doom Raiders<br /><br />Killing Browns vs Berserker Packers [/b]<br /><br />=======================================================[/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(1767, 199, 12, 1272649284, 12, 1767, 'Re: IDL Summer 2010 Signups Open', 'RottKing', 'rottking@sbcglobal.net', '75.25.42.92', 1, 1272649676, 'RottKing', 'Name: RottKing<br />Country: USA<br />Email contact: rottking@sbcglobal.net<br />Instant Message Contact: rottking@sbcglobal.net (MSN)<br />Regular Availability: Pretty much any evening since im a jobless bum<br /><br /><br />[URL=http://img714.imageshack.us/i/finalfight200000.png/][IMG]http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7520/finalfight200000.png[/img][/URL]<br /><br />Uploaded with [URL=http://imageshack.us]ImageShack.us[/URL]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2142, 241, 1, 1280508139, 147, 2142, 'What the IDL community needs a lot less of...', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.93.251.5', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/profile-ak-snc1/v229/1406/122/n583160808_1473.jpg[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3376, 382, 1, 1297170995, 38, 3376, 'Re: Top 5 EGOS', 'Sabertooth', 'ssj4chazou@hotmail.com', '66.211.41.122', 1, 0, '', 'My chameleon abilities work like a charm. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(3519, 380, 1, 1297712593, 75, 3519, 'Re: Odamex - try it, you''ll like it!', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.180.128', 1, 0, '', 'dude, not another spambot thread', 'xx', 1);
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	(1730, 196, 11, 1270441924, 0, 1730, 'Re: IDL Masterbowl VII', 'Fastidious', '', '76.224.120.197', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/8097/sucvsspemasterbowl.png[/img]<br /><br />http://www.speedyshare.com/files/21778239/2010-04-04_223121_idl2010h.108.zdo.zip<br /><br />http://www.speedyshare.com/files/21778235/SUCvsSPE_Masterbowl.html<br /><br />Probably shouldn&#039;t ever be a playoff match on maps with easy to get plasma again!&nbsp; During regular season is fine though.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4500, 488, 16, 1312729450, 75, 4500, 'week 9 dmc vs. dmr incident', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '178.209.142.37', 1, 0, '', 'i&#039;m putting this into a separate thread, because i can&#039;t post in the IDL news section, not even reply to an existing thread.<br /><br />what happened?<br />lb served a demo infraction penalty &quot;for last week.&quot; and indeed his demo is missing, but:<br />[list type=decimal]<br />[li]oh, wait. nostar&#039;s demo is missing as well, so this should&#039;ve been a double penalty and DMC should&#039;ve started with a 3v1 power play![/li]<br />[li]oh, wait. doomguy&#039;s and danny&#039;s demos are also not uploaded! rules state nothing about penalties cancelling each other out, so it should&#039;ve been me vs gyross 1v1 for 3 minutes![/li]<br />[li]oh, wait! lb&#039;s missing two demos, so after 3 minutes nostar, dg and danny should&#039;ve joined and lb should&#039;ve sat for the entire round![/li]<br />[li]oh, wait!!! there are [url=http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?topic=439.0]no demo infraction penalties given[/url], because almost every team has multiple offenders.[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />all in all, this should&#039;ve been a regular 3v3. i&#039;ve checked forums, #idlb logs and game logs after i joined the server and bones didn&#039;t say anything about any penalties. mike and mass, both present in the server, didn&#039;t know about lb&#039;s penalty. [b]i didn&#039;t know about the penalty[/b] and i&#039;m both a board member and captain of the opposing team.<br /><br />so reset is called and passed, players all jump into the game except lb.<br />[quote]dmr lbbbbbb: im gonna eat a penalty<br />dmr lbbbbbb: in game 1[/quote]<br /><br />this he said after the round had started. pardon me, but isn&#039;t that a little bit too late to inform people? not to mention this penalty seems self-imposed.<br />[quote]buttass: lb has a penalty?<br />mass: no he&#039;s just being nice[/quote]<br /><br />why, thank you for giving us one flag head start, lb, but i didn&#039;t ask for it and i certainly didn&#039;t want it. neither me nor my teammates need your pity. such behaviour goes against the competitive spirit of IDL. beat us 2x 5-0 if you can, but don&#039;t toy with us like this, please. but that&#039;s not the end of it, oh no.<br />[quote]buttass: why is he playing then<br />buttass: if he has a penalty[/quote]<br /><br />lb was so busy chatting with spectators that he thought it was still pre-game and joined in while running his mouth about serving a penalty. everyone got confused and then came DMR&#039;s third masterstroke.<br />[quote]dmr lbbbbbb: is this the game<br />dmr lbbbbbb: ?<br />dmr starrrrrrrr: restart?<br />buttass: yeah<br />buttass: it is<br />[UD]HumanBones: what<br />[dmc]dew: wtf<br />dmr lbbbbbb: oh i didnt know<br />buttass: idiot<br />Fastidious: hahah<br />-SNIP-<br />Vote &quot;map reset&quot; called by &quot;dmr starrrrrrrr&quot;.<br />-SNIP-<br />buttass: why are you reseting<br />dmr starrrrrrrr: go<br />[DMC]Doomguy666: are we playing?<br />buttass: just play<br />dmr starrrrrrrr: play<br />[dmc]dew: wtf<br />[dmc]dew: are you guys serious?<br />[UD]HumanBones: now play<br />-SNIP-<br />mass: we should reset<br />dmr lbbbbbb: reset and i am pwoerplayed<br />buttass: bones administrate<br />dmr starrrrrrrr: yes<br />dmr starrrrrrrr: lb do&#039;nt join<br />[dmc]dew: what the fuck is this<br />dmr lbbbbbb: im sorry<br />[UD]HumanBones: i dont understand whats going on mike<br />-SNIP-<br />Vote &quot;map reset&quot; called by &quot;dmr starrrrrrrr&quot;.<br />&quot;dmr starrrrrrrr&quot; voted YES.<br />&quot;dmr gyrossss&quot; voted YES.<br />&quot;dmr lbbbbbb&quot; voted YES.<br />&quot;[DMC]Danny&quot; voted YES.<br />Vote passed[/quote]<br /><br />[url=http://pastebin.com/dF5Yc0ZJ]here&#039;s the whole log[/url]. nostar just called a reset in the middle of the confusion and the game grinded to a halt. the rules say nothing about resetting games already in progress, but i&#039;ve seen games go on uninterrupted even after players got kicked out of the server, lagged and/or glitched heavily and even when one team played with 4 players for a minute or so. the game should&#039;ve continued. i see only two possible scenarios for a restart:<br />[list]<br />[li]the commish allows it. bones was in the server and he told us to play on.[/li]<br />[li]the captains agree to it. i should&#039;ve said no vocally, but i didn&#039;t specifically say yes, did i?[/li]<br />[/list]<br />the second vote happened within an instant and in the confusement i decided to play, but i believe this was an illegal disruption of the game. nostar, a regular player, called for a reset twice without my consent, or the commish&#039;s.<br /><br />when i pressed the issue in #idlb, everyone just said &quot;they shouldn&#039;t have done it,&quot; but then avoided the issue. i feel like it is only because DMC doesn&#039;t matter in the playoff race and everyone thinks we&#039;d lose anyways. this still doesn&#039;t make it okay to wave it away. we got mocked on our season&#039;s last game and DMR just did whatever they wanted. after all the effort from ralph, bones and my team to resurrect the collapsing DMC, it feels like we shouldn&#039;t have bothered.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3917, 394, 1, 1302568323, 213, 3917, 'Re: An IDL 8v8 mappack', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '168.91.255.100', 1, 0, '', 'I endorse this idea!<br /><br />There are two co-exacerbating problems with priv:<br /><br />1. It&#039;s elitist.&nbsp; Beyond the fairness of randcaps, players are chosen more or less in order from best to worst.&nbsp; If this doesn&#039;t happen, then the captains either a.) think CoF is a [i]good[/i] clan, or b.) are Ralphis and can win even with Mobius on their team.&nbsp; And why shouldn&#039;t it be this way!&nbsp; Everybody hates losing and loves winning, especially Jenova.&nbsp; But, for this reason, mediocre and sometimes fairly good players get pushed out of priv whenever there are more than 8 or 10 people in the server.<br /><br />2. It&#039;s a bandwagon.&nbsp; Whenever there are 8 people in the server, there are 12 people in the server.&nbsp; Many players sit in IRC and refresh TT to see if there are enough (or good enough) people already in the server.&nbsp; So after waiting in the server for 30 minutes, a 6th person shows up, we play one game, 8 more people show up, and I (or whoever) am out of priv for the rest of the night.<br /><br />These problems combined make it difficult for IDL 3rds and 4ths and IDL-R-ers (most of the league) to play serious and intelligent games, and consequently make it difficult for them to improve.&nbsp; This expands the player skill gap, and is one contributor to the fact that ZDaemon is dying.&nbsp; Any improvement I might have made this season is not from playing league games, but from playing priv.<br /><br />Playing 5v5 and 6v6 games in priv would mollify this.&nbsp; (So would lowering the priv server player limit, and putting up another server.)<br /><br />idl2011.wad is a collection of maps intended for a 3v3 league.&nbsp; This is why even 4v4 games are shitstorms on maps 14 and 31, but not on maps 19 or 22.&nbsp; In the same way, 5v5 and 6v6 games do not have to be shitstorms.&nbsp; Instead, they can be intelligent, dynamic, and deeply strategerized, given a large and complicated enough playing field, and a smart and talented enough player base.&nbsp; (7v7 and 8v8 games cannot be.)<br /><br /><br />I am willing to build this wad.&nbsp; I have already made a list of the best large maps from ectf, uctf, and zdctf, and will do the same for cc, 32in24, fancyctf, etc.&nbsp; I do not know if people will play this.&nbsp; Also, it would be nice to have a small committee (a board?) of reputable players to OK the maps so that this does not turn out like a bad mixtape.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(4277, 456, 16, 1309983705, 20, 4277, 'Re: WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE CURRENT IDL STANDINGS?', 'Mantis-X', 'nesman90@aol.com', '24.148.177.169', 1, 0, '', 'Put FLS/SPE in the IDC ... or put DMC/EBL in the WDC ... Results would flip flop themselves&nbsp; ;)', 'xx', 1);
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	(4771, 494, 17, 1316290595, 163, 4771, 'Re: Booting out unwanted maps.', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.18.44.230', 1, 0, '', 'Stink: there are plenty of demos out there. Just look back at FLS/SPE..how many armors did you see Mass steal? He may have gotten 1 or 2 but he spent more time staying in mid keeping track of Chew so he wouldn&#039;t get into SPE&#039;s base with 200/200. You can even look back at SUC/EBL a few seasons ago where SUC basically junk rushed the flag and didn&#039;t bother controlling mid and got crushed because of it (anyone who wants to argue that can check the stats, SUC had about 3 times the amount of flag touches and only 1 flag to show for it, EBL had only a few but were quality touches and got 9 flags because of it). Look back at NSUC: they practically developed the strategy of mid-control/beginning game armor steal and it has never failed nor will it. <br /><br />Fast: it&#039;s not theoretical at all - it&#039;s proven. If anything, your strategy is too theoretical. It&#039;s impossible to ask your mid to control mid/damage power-ups runner AND get 4-5 steals a match. When that mid dies out in the middle, he&#039;s not going to run and try to steal the armor, he&#039;s going to stay close to home and find the power-ups guy and be up his ass. Timing the items here isn&#039;t a huge factor, they both respawn every 30 seconds and generally it takes 30-40 seconds for a quality attack to develop once a guy has gotten the power-ups and moved up to get a touch. Whether he dies or scores, they will probably be respawned back in the base. If you can find a mid who will outfrag the other team&#039;s mid and power-ups runner enough to steal 4-5 armors a game, I would yield to you that your strategy is far more competent - but the reality is, you won&#039;t. The only way you could have that happen is if a strong team plays a bad team, then I see I could see it. However, with two good teams battling it out, it;s not very realistic to build around.<br /><br />As far as Quake goes, I don&#039;t deny that Quake takes more time to master and perhaps has a deeper strategy than DooM does - that&#039;s probably why it&#039;s not played much anymore. It takes years to get good at Quake and while QW is comparable to DooM in some senses, the games themselves are totally different. Quake is about item control, Doom is about spawn control and occasional item control/weapon control. DooM usually boils down to having a balanced team - as I&#039;m sure Quake does, too. But DooM is probably more fast paced because the maps seem to be a lot smaller and you have to make a decision in a split-second almost all the time in DooM - I&#039;m not sure any other game can really say that. Plus 3v3 is an odd setup, most games run 4v4 so every mistake a player makes in a 3v3 game can be the difference in a flag whereas in other games, you have more room for error as you have more players available as well as the game being more built around posturing for position then making a move at the flag. DooM is usually about mid control with constant flag-touches, that&#039;s pretty tough to master and do successfully. If you don&#039;t agree with that, I&#039;m really not sure what to tell you. I would say the fact that out of the million people who&#039;ve played in this league for the last 11 seasons, only a handful of them have won it all. You can blame Nostar for 4 of those seasons though :p.&nbsp; ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4499, 486, 26, 1312705907, 7, 4499, 'Re: Wiki', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '174.103.19.246', 1, 0, '', 'IDK, did you try it?&nbsp; Mediawiki is particularly fanatical about anyone being able to edit/create pages, no account verification, etc., so I&#039;d have to make sure it was all secure but sure, if it&#039;s not then i can look into it.&nbsp; Really the wiki is the most neglected part of IDL.org.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1710, 185, 11, 1269297625, 160, 1710, 'Re: Dumb Flames (thx Nostar)', 'cha0tix', 'swallowing_cum@homosexual.net', '68.58.102.58', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=nostar]I don&#039;t even care if you play to your fullest potential. I was really just talking about showing up and playing.[/quote]<br /><br />Backpedaling on your &quot;suck&quot; argument. Ok lets move on...<br /><br />[quote] The difference between you and those players is that they made the playoffs, because they showed up and tried.[/quote]<br /><br />I showed up to every game but two, one which couldn&#039;t get rescheduled ( but the opposing team had 3 guys on the next day! ::) ) and the last one which was a miscommunication between the captains.<br /><br />[quote]To be honest I don&#039;t see those players any more often than I see you. So the &quot;real life&quot; cop out just doesn&#039;t have teeth imo.[/quote]<br /><br />I see you&#039;re confused. I said my team had alot of real life things to attend to. I simply stopped caring about clocking time to IDL on top of doing other things.<br /><br />[quote]I&#039;m telling you that your excuses are inaccurate and giving you my take on viable alternatives.[/quote]<br /><br />So my reasons, about myself, are inaccurate?&nbsp; ::)<br /><br />[quote]I actually would have liked seeing you show up and play more.[/quote]<br /><br />If you&#039;re talking about IDL games, I did show up. Playing&nbsp; generally/practicing/privs, not so much.<br /><br />[quote]I still think you were a long shot to win it but certainly you could have. It&#039;s unfortunate that instead of losing or winning you choose to forfeit.[/quote]<br /><br />I [b]never[/b] chose to forfeit any game this season, or any season I played.<br /><br />[quote]To me that shows just how large your ego is. I guess I didn&#039;t expect you to finish the season if you started to lose anyway. Lo and behold.[/quote]<br /><br />I don&#039;t understand the point in you trying to warp everything, but I guess you&#039;re hell bent on making me look worse than what I do. You&#039;ve always had a healthy obsession with me...<br /><br />I did finish the season. I did play all the games, sans two (which I explained earlier). I would have played them regardless even if I had Mistopher and Legion on my team, contrary to your belief. <br /><br />Just to remind you, one game (with your team too!) tried to get rescheduled but couldn&#039;t, despite 3 teammates being on (and in games) the next day. The last game VS EBL was scheduled later in the week, according to Shakal, and DD was ok with it (he can clarify here if he wants). Cool, I woulda played. Ralphis have us the forfeit on Sunday for no apparent reason according to my information.<br /><br />I did not continue practicing during/after bye week. I did not continue to play much or at all during/after bye week (which is why I think it should be removed cus it kills the vibe). I did not mind losing any game at any point in the season.<br /><br /><br /><br />To say [b]I[/b] gave up due to losing is already a losing battle. We had a winning record by the time I stopped bothering with this league.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1711, 194, 11, 1269297677, 160, 1711, 'Re: Map Poll', 'cha0tix', 'swallowing_cum@homosexual.net', '68.58.102.58', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=194.msg1705#msg1705 date=1269283554]<br />I&#039;d just like to see matches with multiple maps.&nbsp; I&#039;m not a fan of grinding at one map all week long.&nbsp; Also I think playoff matches being just one map is sorta lame since for whatever reason a team could be quite good at map X but suck at map Y.&nbsp; Generally in Quake finals are huge affairs which span lots of maps.&nbsp; You&#039;ll frequently see best of 5 or 7 which use the same number of maps.&nbsp; I think that&#039;s awesome and then you know who was really deserving to win, and it is also a great spectacle to watch.<br /><br />I think the IDL would be well served by multiple maps per match.&nbsp; A good example is the ZDDL which has that.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think the ZDDL would be as awesome if it used a weekly map then forced just one map in playoffs.<br /><br />Also sorta related is I don&#039;t like the idea of teams picking their map either for home field advantage.&nbsp; I think teams being better already don&#039;t need another advantage.&nbsp; They already get a BYE into Conference Finals currently, I think that is a big enough advantage.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />This.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1712, 192, 11, 1269297738, 160, 1712, 'Re: Season Length Poll', 'cha0tix', 'swallowing_cum@homosexual.net', '68.58.102.58', 1, 0, '', 'Shorter. Its not as &quot;ughhh&quot; and its more like &quot;next time, scumbag!&quot;. <br /><br />Plus bye week is an IDL paraquat.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1713, 188, 11, 1269297827, 160, 1713, 'Re: IDL Site Open Sourced', 'cha0tix', 'swallowing_cum@homosexual.net', '68.58.102.58', 1, 0, '', 'Best decision.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1714, 185, 11, 1269299729, 147, 1714, 'Re: Dumb Flames (thx Nostar)', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.93.251.5', 1, 0, '', 'hey chow you should check out luckctf.&nbsp; it&#039;s a huge hit.<br /><br />back on topic: everyone is figguts', 'xx', 1);
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	(1715, 195, 11, 1269310516, 15, 1715, 'Re: The People''s Champ', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.93.225', 1, 0, '', 'Ladna', 'xx', 1);
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	(1716, 195, 11, 1269320777, 147, 1716, 'Re: The People''s Champ', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.93.251.5', 1, 0, '', 'Normally I woulda voted Ladna but he&#039;s beating me by 1 so I&#039;m gonna have to go with Goat cuz he talks soccer with me', 'xx', 1);
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	(1717, 183, 1, 1269328290, 7, 1717, 'Re: Heroes and Veterans...', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '99.137.200.234', 1, 0, '', 'When mike&#039;s not killing himself trying to punch 10 revenants to death, he&#039;s busily trapping his teammates between archies and cybers.&nbsp; Indeed watching him be so frivolous with the lives of others, one wonders if there aren&#039;t... lady troubles at the heart of all this anger.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1768, 199, 12, 1272654011, 172, 1768, 'Re: IDL Summer 2010 Signups Open', 'Frozen', 'robertilloxd@gmail.com', '190.209.31.117', 1, 1272654262, 'Frozen', 'Name: Frozen<br />Country: Chile<br />Email contact: robertilloxd@gmail.com<br />Instant Message Contact: [SUR]Frozenjail (IRC), skullkid_icky_ookami@hotmail.com<br />Regular Availability: Almost every day of the week, and always on Fridays and Saturdays.', 'xx', 1);
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	(7014, 667, 23, 1339873366, 209, 7015, 'Re: Blue Division Results &amp; Demos', 'AlexMax', 'alexmax2742@gmail.com', '24.74.30.216', 1, 1339879870, 'AlexMax', 'Whoops...', 'xx', 1);
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	(2160, 244, 12, 1281060116, 10, 2160, 'IDL S2010 Wildcard Playoffs (Aug 2 - Aug 8.)', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', '[center][b][size=5]Official Servers for Wildcard Playoff Week of IDL Winter 2010[/size][/b]<br /><br />[color=navy][International Doom League Wildcard Playoffs - [MAP20 - IDC A][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11022[/b]<br /><br />[color=navy][International Doom League Wildcard Playoffs - [MAP20 - IDC B][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11023[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League Wildcard Playoffs - [Map22 - WDC A][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11024[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League Wildcard Playoffs&nbsp; - [MAP22 - WDC B][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11025[/b]<br /><br />=======================================================<br />[b]<br />Killing Browns @ Electric Bills (Map 20)<br /><br />Flag Steelers @ Berserker Packers (Map 22)<br />[/b]<br />=======================================================[/center]', 'exclamation', 1);
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	(2181, 246, 1, 1281195928, 130, 2181, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Quiksilver link=topic=246.msg2179#msg2179 date=1281190901]<br />[IMG]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/Vcoalition/nostarpaypalerror.jpg[/img]<br />[/quote]<br /><br />we never changed that eh. god we&#039;re lazy.<br /><br />the server donation email is totaltrashservers [(at)] gmail [(dot)] com if you want to donate. We appreciate any help we can get.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(5334, 532, 17, 1321060076, 147, 5334, 'Re: A CTF Guide For The New Guys', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.35.212', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;m from the ralphis point of a view.&nbsp; let your runner work his magic', 'xx', 1);
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	(1718, 193, 11, 1269415754, 7, 1718, 'Re: Multiple Games per Week Poll', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '99.137.200.234', 1, 0, '', 'Yeah honestly, it&#039;s hard to separate this from scheduling and map choice.&nbsp; It&#039;s like you can only break down a Doom game into so many parts haha.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=193.msg1704#msg1704 date=1269283150]<br />Like if you had 10 matches to do in 8 weeks or whatever I&#039;m sure that would work a bit better.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Well we already pair teams &amp; maps up way ahead of time, is it really too much to be like, &quot;IDL is 4 weeks long, play your 8 games in that time period, thanks.&quot; instead of 9 weeks + playoffs?&nbsp; We could maybe put a deadline on scheduling the games, or do a ZDDL thing.<br /><br />On the other hand, IDL has a nice weekly cycle, which makes hyping and broadcasting of games (if I can ever get it to work again...) a lot easier, and it&#039;s easier to plan around.&nbsp; I can give Ralphis my availability Tuesday night, check the site here &amp; there for our game time, and show up a little bit before to practice/warm up.&nbsp; Maybe that&#039;s called &quot;losing interest&quot; though, haha.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=193.msg1704#msg1704 date=1269283150]<br />I also think teams could use a reschedule power or something once per season meaning for whatever reason they could reschedule any one match.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />If we did the 4 week thing (or however many weeks) we could be more flexible with scheduling, since you have 4 weeks it&#039;s not like a team can say, &quot;sorry, busy until next weekend&quot;.<br /><br />I think the original reason we discourage reschedules is that it can be manipulative, but then again I can&#039;t remember ever not trying to reschedule a game (some games are impossible to schedule in the first place).&nbsp; I mean we&#039;ll almost never schedule a tuesday/wednesday game, but there have been a fair number of thursday/monday games.<br /><br />It can be gay when say, you schedule for a day your team can&#039;t actually make it, and the other team is like, &quot;sorry, you lose&quot;.&nbsp; But we generally do that so teams can&#039;t gamble for more time to practice, or cheat their opponents out of a week of practice for the next game.&nbsp; Like, say FLS played SPE in both Week 9, but had already clenched the Wildcard BYE (meaning SPE would face BBC in the Wildcard Playoffs).&nbsp; FLS could just skip their game on Week 9&#039;s weekend, say they can play that coming thursday, and either increase their chances of winning against SPE (because SPE chose to practice the Wildcard map) or increase the chances of SPE losing in Wildcard (because SPE chose to practice the Week 9 map).&nbsp; There&#039;s arguments for both sides is what I&#039;m saying, so we default to penalizing the team that didn&#039;t show up.&nbsp; Scheduling rigidity can be really frustrating though -- really scheduling in general is probably the shittiest part of IDL.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1720, 196, 11, 1269487657, 69, 1720, 'Re: IDL Masterbowl VII', 'Goatface', 'roger.banango@gmail.com', '98.145.86.182', 1, 0, '', 'SPREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAD EAGLES!', 'xx', 1);
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	(1722, 195, 11, 1269559017, 2, 1722, 'Re: The People''s Champ', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.48.249', 1, 0, '', 'obviously ladna and to a lesser extent, ralphis.&nbsp; Both of these guys do jobs that others either cannot or will not do, without them there would be no league.&nbsp; Also nostar doesn&#039;t ban ppl like craezy anymore so he gets +1', 'xx', 1);
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	(1724, 195, 11, 1269569495, 74, 1724, 'Re: The People''s Champ', 'Acolyte', 'dty_15@hotmail.com', '76.208.30.180', 1, 0, '', 'Lordbritish', 'xx', 1);
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	(3377, 362, 14, 1297257332, 23, 3377, 'Re: W2011 IDL-R Free Agent - Trade History', 'Nautilus', 'knotilus@myway.com', '72.66.25.228', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;m a free agent guys', 'xx', 1);
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	(8454, 811, 28, 1361289962, 267, 8454, 'Re: my feedback for odamex', 'RecKle$$_', 'Aesthesic@hotmail.com', '201.103.107.99', 1, 0, '', 'they HAVE to add it,being able to see the obituaries without being distracted by spectators chat is really important and i really hope they dont pull a &quot;spectators can talk in teamchat to avoid that&quot; because not everyone does it ', 'xx', 1);
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	(1726, 196, 11, 1269673360, 10, 1726, 'Re: IDL Masterbowl VII', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'Maybe one day the Spread Eagles will turn in their availability so we can play MB VII before the Summer season starts.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1728, 196, 11, 1269808896, 49, 1728, 'Re: IDL Masterbowl VII', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '24.154.81.230', 1, 0, '', 'i agree THE SEVENTH MASTERBOWL MUST BE PLAYED', 'xx', 1);
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	(1867, 218, 12, 1274653981, 30, 1867, 'Re: Summer 2010 Draft Discussion', 'Beast', 'kjolly@uwm.edu', '24.209.123.204', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=nostar link=topic=218.msg1857#msg1857 date=1274509825]<br />Dude hatedraft is hilarious and if I thought there was any hope for you I would totally hatedraft whoever you wanted. I can&#039;t believe Xen didn&#039;t coin this term earlier in his illustrious career. It&#039;s pure genius.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />The term has been around a while, originally used as hatefuck.<br /><br />ie... Damn I can&#039;t stand that bitch, but I&#039;d hatefuck her.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1988, 228, 12, 1277918209, 19, 1988, 'Re: Week 4 (Jun 28 - Jul 4) : ZDECTF05 (MAP05) - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.9.221', 1, 0, '', 'At long last it&#039;s time for a return of...<br /><br />[center][img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/300610/1277917658.gif[/img][/center]<br /><br /><br />[center][b][size=20pt][color=#196758]S[/color][color=#246c5e]p[/color][color=#2f7164]r[/color][color=#3a766a]e[/color][color=#447a70]a[/color][color=#4f7f76]d[/color] [color=#658982]E[/color][color=#708e88]a[/color][color=#7b938e]g[/color][color=#859794]l[/color][color=#909c9a]e[/color][color=#9ba1a0]s[/color][/size][/b]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; [b][size=16pt][color=#000000]B[/color][color=#0b0101]e[/color][color=#160202]r[/color][color=#210404]s[/color][color=#2c0505]e[/color][color=#380606]r[/color][color=#430707]k[/color][color=#4e0808]e[/color][color=#590909]r[/color] [color=#6f0c0c]P[/color][color=#7a0d0d]a[/color][color=#850e0e]c[/color][color=#910f0f]k[/color][color=#9c1010]e[/color][color=#a71212]r[/color][color=#b21313]s[/color][/size][/b]<br />[size=7]&#9556;&#9577;[size=6] [i]SPE[/i] [/size]&#9577;&#9574;&#9508;[u]VS[/u]&#9500;&#9574;&#9577;[size=6] [i]BSK[/i] [/size]&#9577;&#9559;[/size]<br />[size=7][img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/SpreadEagles-small.png[/img]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  [img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/BerserkerPackers-small.png[/img][/size]<br />[size=7]&#9568;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552; [size=5][b][color=brown]DIVISION[/color][/b][/size] &#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9571;[/size]<br />[size=7]&#9562;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9577;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9577;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9565;[/size][/center]<br />[center][img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/300610/1277917653.gif[/img][/center]<br /><br />This game will probably be the only one this week that isn&#039;t a blowout, and I&#039;m not counting EBLvBBC because I&#039;m above commenting on my own game in a non-satirical fashion. This is the first Divisional contest for these teams, so it will prove to be a great help in the playoff racefor either to win this game, and from my predictions it&#039;ll be a close one.<br /><br />The reason this is, is because I expect BSK to pick themselves up and prove their worth this week. There is no better situation for BSK, while SPE is a deceptive team, relying on deception and deceptive things, BSK is perceived as a huffing, puffing wolf with front door offense to spare. Unless BSK practices often I don&#039;t see them overpowering SPE in the map control game, to which I favor SPE to scrape by.<br />[center][b]SPE 2-1 BSK[/b][/center]<br /><br /><br />[center][b][size=20pt][color=#6e6e6e]D[/color][color=#656565]o[/color][color=#5c5c5c]o[/color][color=#535353]m[/color] [color=#404040]R[/color][color=#373737]a[/color][color=#2e2e2e]i[/color][color=#252525]d[/color][color=#1c1c1c]e[/color][color=#121212]r[/color][color=#090909]s[/color][/size][/b]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; [b][size=20pt][color=#663311]K[/color][color=#6f3912]i[/color][color=#773e13]l[/color][color=#804414]l[/color][color=#894915]i[/color][color=#924f16]n[/color][color=#9a5417]g[/color] [color=#ac5f1a]B[/color][color=#b4651b]r[/color][color=#bd6a1c]o[/color][color=#c6701d]w[/color][color=#cf751e]n[/color][color=#d77b1f]s[/color][/size][/b]<br />[size=7]&#9556;&#9577;[size=6] [i]DMR[/i] [/size]&#9577;&#9574;&#9508;[u]VS[/u]&#9500;&#9574;&#9577;[size=6] [i]KGB[/i] [/size]&#9577;&#9559;[/size]<br />[size=7][img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/DoomRaiders-small.png[/img]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  [img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/KillingBrowns-small.png[/img][/size]<br />[size=7]&#9562;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9565;[/size][/center]<br /><br />Straight up, DMR [i]severely[/i] needs team cohesion and lots of practice. I expect a strong middle from Tai, solid defense from Caution, and good chaingun from Josh. My professional opinion stands at KGB pretty much taking this game with no issue at all, probably finishing both rounds within 10 minutes total. My personal opinion is that I&#039;m hungry and will get a snack before I write the next column of stuffness.<br />[center][b]DMR 0-2 KGB[/b][/center]<br /><br /><br />[center][b][size=20pt][color=#c09807]E[/color][color=#b28d07]l[/color][color=#a58206]e[/color][color=#977706]c[/color][color=#896d05]t[/color][color=#7b6205]r[/color][color=#6e5704]i[/color][color=#604c04]c[/color] [color=#453603]B[/color][color=#372b02]i[/color][color=#292102]l[/color][color=#1b1601]l[/color][color=#0e0b01]s[/color][/size][/b]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; [b][size=16pt][color=#c00709]B[/color][color=#bf280b]r[/color][color=#bf490d]o[/color][color=#be6a10]k[/color][color=#be8b12]e[/color][color=#c0a907]b[/color][color=#9bae0a]a[/color][color=#76b30e]c[/color][color=#50b811]k[/color] [color=#07c011]C[/color][color=#0b8c4a]o[/color][color=#105884]w[/color][color=#070cc0]b[/color][color=#350ebd]o[/color][color=#6210ba]y[/color][color=#9012b7]s[/color][/size][/b]<br />[size=7]&#9556;&#9577;[size=6] [i]EBL[/i] [/size]&#9577;&#9574;&#9508;[u]VS[/u]&#9500;&#9574;&#9577;[size=6] [i]BBC[/i] [/size]&#9577;&#9559;[/size]<br />[size=7][img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/ElectricBills-small.png[/img]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  [img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/BrokeBackCowboys-small.png[/img][/size]<br />[size=7]&#9568;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552; [size=4][b][color=brown]CONFERENCE[/color][/b][/size] &#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9571;[/size]<br />[size=7]&#9562;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9577;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9577;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9565;[/size][/center]<br /><br />Week 1: Team fell harder than Alice off the mountain in Last of the Mohicans<br />Week 2: Soviet satellites captures the EBL captain&#039;s &#1056;&#1091;&#1085;&#1077;&#769;&#1090;<br />Week 3: &quot;Railroaded!&quot; by Denny McMichelin / &quot;Everything Is Under (my) Control: A Firsthand Account&quot; by R. Vickers<br />Week 4: Meteor strikes Canada, wipes millions out and melts the everlasting Winter, national tragedy at lack of ice rinks<br /><br /><br />[center][b][size=20pt][color=#c00907]F[/color][color=#b10a19]l[/color][color=#a20c2c]a[/color][color=#940d3e]g[/color] [color=#761063]S[/color][color=#671275]t[/color][color=#591387]e[/color][color=#4a1599]e[/color][color=#3b16ac]l[/color][color=#2c18be]e[/color][color=#1e19d0]r[/color][color=#0f1be3]s[/color][/size][/b]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; [b][size=20pt][color=#0744c0]S[/color][color=#0849c0]u[/color][color=#094fc0]p[/color][color=#0a54bf]e[/color][color=#0b59bf]r[/color] [color=#0d64bf]C[/color][color=#0e6abf]h[/color][color=#0e6fbe]a[/color][color=#0f74be]r[/color][color=#107abe]g[/color][color=#117fbe]e[/color][color=#1284bd]r[/color][color=#138abd]s[/color][/size][/b]<br />[size=7]&#9556;&#9577;[size=6] [i]FLS[/i] [/size]&#9577;&#9574;&#9508;[u]VS[/u]&#9500;&#9574;&#9577;[size=6] [i]SUC[/i] [/size]&#9577;&#9559;[/size]<br />[size=7][img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/FlagSteelers-small.png[/img]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  [img]http://xenaero.googlepages.com/SuperChargers-small.png[/img][/size]<br />[size=7]&#9562;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9552;&#9565;[/size][/center]<br /><br />As much as I hate Ralph and want him to lose so bad because he&#039;s a smug bastard, it probably won&#039;t happen. Well, Rus does have his chaingun. I can see Chaingun being pretty crazy in the middle on this map, but the problem is locking down middle. It wouldn&#039;t be unwise if Rott was locking down middle with Gyross running, forcing FLS to put their best men on the defensive, leaving perhaps only one person to run on Ralph D. Hell, they could probably get by with two people running since Rott&#039;s aim lately has been stumbling.<br /><br />Both teams would benefeit a great deal from repeated practice due to the sheer dynamics of the map, it&#039;s crucial that team members on both sides adapt to whatever situation. The map itself is very wide open which will present a good deal of running opportunities to whoever gets past the first layer of defense. I don&#039;t expect FLS to gain much ground before their runners are pushed back on the defensive.<br />[center][b]FLS 0-2 SUC[/b][/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3918, 394, 1, 1302589816, 19, 3918, 'Re: An IDL 8v8 mappack', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.249.152', 1, 0, '', 'Smart captains will go 2nd and build their team for a specific map anyway, which is a massive advantage. Although, this will not be mitigated by anything! Why did I bring it up haaaaaaaaaaaaaa fuck.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3105, 354, 1, 1293252290, 163, 3105, 'Effective Immediately ', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.67.244.200', 1, 1293255876, 'Hatred', 'I found myself in this same position around 4 months ago and here I am again, wondering, not sure of what the future holds...I&#039;ll cut the bullshit and get straight to the point:<br /><br />If mikehail and Fasitidous were to fight in an organized hell in the cell, who would win? What would their nicknames be? I personally like mike the miracle maker vs Peter Pasting Filipinos. What would be at stake? If mike loses, he has to take a picture of his kitchen and reveal it to the world. If Fast loses, he has to record Filipino sex with another man. Afterward, both will hug and move in together, buy the IDL and form an unstoppable team until I say, yeah I&#039;ll crush you faggots and end both of them. <br /><br />Post your thoughts. Also, Merry Christmas!', 'xx', 1);
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	(4183, 438, 16, 1308283042, 8, 4183, 'Re: S2011 FREE AGENTS - TRADE HISTORY - WAIVER WIRE', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '98.234.131.145', 1, 0, '', '[b]Fnordy Niners[/b]<br />Traded Nosturi to Free Agency for Tobi (Week 2)', 'xx', 1);
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	(4516, 488, 16, 1312773061, 130, 4516, 'Re: week 9 dmc vs. dmr incident', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.242', 1, 0, '', 'My apologies, I read somewhere in the log mike rcon&#039;d players so I assumed it was him. I really didn&#039;t look.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6082, 592, 20, 1327508523, 15, 6082, 'Re: Week 4 (JAN 23 - JAN 29) : IDLCONTEST20 (MAP19) - Discussion and Results', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '173.178.167.41', 1, 0, '', '[b]Super Chargers vs Philanthropic Blowhards[/b]<br />Dumb draft for lb.<br /><br />SUC 2-0. <br /><br />[b]Brokeback Cowboys vs Ricochet Rockets[/b]<br /><br />Gut feeling for BBC on this map.&nbsp; Gyross will steal flags, and prime will be a wall.&nbsp; Powerplay?<br /><br />BBC 2-1<br /><br />[b]Contraband vs The Cult of Bestism[/b]<br /><br />I don&#039;t think TCB will have the offensive power to get passed dev/bones on this map.&nbsp; Their cover in mid will let denny/higs get easy flag caps.<br /><br />CTB 2-0<br /><br />[b]Plasmadicks United vs Killingbrowns[/b]<br /><br />Tai and Blair will decimate mid/d, if someone had a worse draft than lb, it&#039;s probably rus.&nbsp;  <br /><br />KGB 2-0<br /><br />[b]We&#039;re All Doomed vs Mass Destruction[/b]<br /><br />This will probably be the game to watch of week.&nbsp; Not because I enjoy seeing nostar lose, mainly because I can see MAD controlling mid on this map a lot more than WAD.&nbsp; If Xyltol can ever pass star with 200/100, xen and dg will provide great cover for him to make it safely into their base.&nbsp; Although I can see MAD getting impatient with lack of flag caps throughout the rounds and being more aggressive, and getting caught out of position.<br /><br />TIE 1-1 or [MAD 2-1 if played with patience]&nbsp; <br /><br />[b]Fnordy Niners vs Super Shotgun Spurs [/b]<br /><br /> ??? 8) 8) 8) 8) :o ;D', 'xx', 1);
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	(6311, 616, 17, 1330362987, 267, 6311, 'Re: Hello free agents', 'RecKle$$_', 'Aesthesic@hotmail.com', '189.245.142.53', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ten link=topic=616.msg6286#msg6286 date=1330102860]<br />Reckless might as well be a free agent LOL<br />[/quote]<br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/kcFo0.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(6630, 639, 21, 1333492710, 267, 6630, 'Re: IDL-R Invite List/Signup Thread', 'RecKle$$_', 'Aesthesic@hotmail.com', '189.217.215.193', 1, 0, '', 'Dawson is playing<br /><br />17:35&nbsp; &lt;Dawsonation&gt;	Name: Dawson Aka Dawsonation<br />17:35&nbsp; &lt;Dawsonation&gt;	Country: USA<br />17:35&nbsp; &lt;Dawsonation&gt;	Email Contact : RoxRite12@yahoo.com<br />17:36&nbsp; &lt;Dawsonation&gt;	Regular Av : MON-FRID Most of the time<br /><br />and he&#039;s also a faggot', 'xx', 1);
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	(1725, 172, 26, 1269616698, 61, 1725, 'Re: Team Color Assignments', 'Chain', 'luis_miguelito_@hotmail.com', '69.129.234.61', 1, 0, '', 'You guys know you can override teammate and enemy colors in ZD since almost forever ago right?<br /><br />This of course covers the &quot;omfg i don&#039;t want to be blinded!&quot; issue, but as far as map symmetry, that&#039;s another story.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8864, 499, 1, 1365602236, 214, 8864, 'Re: North America Vs Europe', 'RustInPeace', 'ru5tk1ng@yahoo.com', '98.197.197.44', 1, 0, '', 'A team of Turska, Nost, Fluffles, ShadowForce, dewww, and Dragon would be a pretty solid lineup. The question is if they would even play oda. Or will they follow the path of Gyrossman and become a UFC champ?', 'xx', 1);
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	(6312, 617, 20, 1330363164, 10, 6312, 'Re: Week 9 Boycott Thread', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '98.225.144.111', 1, 0, '', 'The board is horrible and we&#039;ve known they are horrible for a number of months. Let&#039;s just get this over with and most of us can move on with our lives after this week and season.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1729, 187, 11, 1270058864, 2, 1730, 'Re: IDL WINTER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.48.249', 1, 1270518900, 'mikefails', 'INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE<br />Nostar - 9<br />Killingblair - 8<br />Jenova - 8<br />Ralphis - 7<br />Devastatio[u][i][b]N[/b][/i][/u] - 7<br /><br />miek -6<br /><br />WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE<br />Whiteboy - 12<br />ItalianStallion - 10<br />Humanbones - 8<br />Rottking - 6<br />Shadow_Ghost - 6<br /><br />Metalblack - 6<br /><br />So white and star will cap teams and myself and metablack will stand in in case of absence.<br /><br />So I have decided the maps played will be 03, 16, 17, 26, 31, I think these should be popular enough to give anybody something to like from both teams.&nbsp; I am considering changing the format to be total flags instead of best of 5, this is to keep the games exciting and hopefully keep it going a little longer than some other seasons all-star games.&nbsp; Tentative time looks to be the weekend after the MasterBowl, Sunday, April 10th, around 9pm EST.<br /><br />If any of you object strongly to anything here or have any interesting ideas, please pm me and let me know, I think this should work out good but I want everybody to enjoy it!&nbsp; I should be able to have a solid time by this Sunday, so check up every couple days if you are unsure!<br /><br />Game is scheduled for Sunday, April 10th, at 9pm EST, gl and hf to both teams!!', 'xx', 1);
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	(1989, 225, 12, 1277935724, 22, 1989, 'Re: Week 3 (Jun 21 - Jun 27) : ZDCTF18 (MAP18) - Discussion and Results', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '64.229.193.188', 1, 0, '', 'http://www.speedyshare.com/files/23202731/IDL-SPEvsEBL-week3_map18ShadowPOV.108.zdo', 'xx', 1);
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	(1811, 209, 12, 1274079090, 19, 1811, 'Re: A Helpful CTF Guide', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '69.68.240.173', 1, 0, '', 'I will probably write a more in-depth &#039;awareness on defense&#039; article (SINCE A LOT OF FUCKING PEOPLE LACK THIS) since that hasn&#039;t been covered like at all, but since I&#039;m lazy I had to post that<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna link=topic=209.msg1797#msg1797 date=1274008458]<br />&quot;what are the odds of LordBritish selling enough &#039;LeBron + Cleveland 2011&#039; t-shirts to purchase a bus ticket to my parents&#039; house so he can beat the hell out of me in person for hitting him with 18 consecutive rockets, causing him to be shot several times in the ass&quot;?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Fucking lost it right here.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1841, 217, 5, 1274395285, 10, 1841, 'Re: Draft Order', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ladna link=topic=217.msg1833#msg1833 date=1274309956]<br />Ralphis and Goatface disliked the idea that any outcome was possible (like EBL getting 8th and SUC getting 1st), so I suggest setting up tiers.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />That isn&#039;t why I disliked it at all. I disliked the idea that the second round doesn&#039;t mirror the first round. I&#039;m totally fine with the outcome of the lottery in the first round, but the subsequent round should most likely mirror the first round perfectly, rather than getting another run reversed. This means that all teams would have a pick in the first half of either round, whereas if you run it three separate times and reverse it the second time, the room to get totally fucked exists. <br /><br />In the end, it seems like if the idea of the lottery is this complicated and convoluted between a handful of intelligent people, it&#039;s probably best if we abandon the idea altogether for league wide implementation (opting for the traditional IDL forward, reverse, forward but going by previous season&#039;s record). <br /><br />I don&#039;t care to implement any rules about new captains getting +1 or -1 in order as captains are allowed multiple seasons on their team anyway.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2064, 233, 12, 1278850028, 37, 2064, 'Re: Week 5 (Jul 5 - Jul 12) : ZDECTF2-01 (MAP20) - Discussion and Results', 'Tony', 'red.doomer@gmail.com', '164.76.209.253', 1, 0, '', 'FLS defeats DMR 2-0<br /><br />The scores of the games were 5-0 and 5-2, will update with screenshots when I decide to get to it.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2104, 226, 12, 1279055419, 35, 2104, 'Re: IDEA: Tiebreaker Rule Change', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.240.85.23', 1, 0, '', 'HAHA blair who in the hell is that in your avatar? He looks like a cross between David Bowie and Mick Jagger.', 'xx', 1);
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	(9220, 926, 31, 1377229939, 216, 9220, 'Re: Season Standings Predictions', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '174.92.58.53', 1, 0, '', 'tai ruined my long happy life with water :(', 'xx', 1);
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	(8525, 843, 17, 1361667845, 16, 8525, 'Re: Franchising.', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '98.216.91.67', 1, 0, '', 'If it gets better people captaining, then sure why not? Whether it&#039;s that simple is a different story, but I gotta say, maybe some people who weren&#039;t willing to captain before might re-consider if they have a little more power over who&#039;s on their team, no?', 'xx', 1);
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	(8579, 827, 17, 1362020352, 2174, 8579, 'Re: Someone else quits', 'Decay`', 'systemdecay@hotmail.ca', '99.243.48.212', 1, 0, '', 'It is awful to learn he left us in pursuit of more internet &quot;girls.&quot; I am ashamed.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8838, 876, 1, 1364870232, 16, 8838, 'Re: HOLA!?', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '98.216.91.67', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=876.msg8837#msg8837 date=1364861445]<br />oh its this bitch again<br />[/quote]', 'xx', 1);
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	(9436, 499, 1, 1382626826, 61, 9436, 'Re: North America Vs Europe', 'Chain', 'luis_miguelito_@hotmail.com', '204.167.95.253', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;d do it', 'xx', 1);
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	(1990, 225, 12, 1277935975, 19, 1990, 'Re: Week 3 (Jun 21 - Jun 27) : ZDCTF18 (MAP18) - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.9.221', 1, 0, '', 'http://www.speedyshare.com/files/23202824/EBLvSPEweek3map18.zip', 'xx', 1);
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	(2039, 232, 12, 1278745566, 7, 2039, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'I think the only difference that the smaller talent pool has made is that games are sloppier now.&nbsp; New players aren&#039;t as experienced, and they&#039;re not as predictable either.&nbsp; For instance, Strangle&#039;s use of the RL in his offense on map18 is pretty unprecedented.&nbsp; I think that is exciting, and I hope the trend continues.<br /><br />But rookies aren&#039;t to blame for an unbalanced league.&nbsp; Like Nostar said, franchising fixes a lot of draft problems (like how do laggy captains with a high pick get a reasonable 3rd and stay competitive...).&nbsp; Further, I would have stayed on as captain of FLS had franchising not been repealed, and while I&#039;m not the strongest captain ever to play the game, I still have a pretty good record.&nbsp; That by itself adds a lot of balance to the league, to say nothing of the &quot;bonus&quot; draft round where captains who don&#039;t franchise get a pick in normal order.&nbsp; That fixes both EBL and DMR.&nbsp; It also makes stronger players want to play, makes players in general want to show up, and avoids stupid drama like everyone piling up on Goatface, most of whom didn&#039;t even have the balls to do what he did and captain a team.&nbsp; Now he&#039;s trying to not ruin Hatred&#039;s last IDL season for a while and everyone&#039;s shitty about it.&nbsp; I&#039;m with Hatred, you guys can go to hell.<br /><br />No one is saying that franchising fixed everything.&nbsp; It OBVIOUSLY doesn&#039;t get your boss off your back or fix connections.&nbsp; It does create stronger teams of players who are more likely to like each other though, and everything about that is beneficial.&nbsp; I mean, really, it just seems so obvious to me, I don&#039;t know what else to say.<br /><br />I also don&#039;t think franchising was stale at all.&nbsp; There was only one instance where 3 players got back together - which I thought was pretty cool because they were last season&#039;s champs and it was a whole new season to try and beat them, but I guess I&#039;m more man than most - and most captains didn&#039;t even hold their franchise player the full 2 seasons.&nbsp; I guess I don&#039;t know what you guys mean when you say the league was stale, it empirically wasn&#039;t when you look at the teams.&nbsp; It&#039;s like saying a red car is blue, no, it&#039;s fuckin red foolz.&nbsp; Also there&#039;s only so many people in IDL.&nbsp; Look at BBC this season, it&#039;s like Season 6 BSK and EBL crashed Nostar&#039;s house.&nbsp; If that&#039;s not &quot;stale&quot;, then what is?<br /><br />To sum up, franchising was a great idea that Ralphis had.&nbsp; It solved tons of problems and made IDL really tough and fun.&nbsp; But due to some indefensible &quot;stale&quot; argument we listened to player demand and got rid of it.&nbsp; It was stupid and I regret it, and I&#039;d love to hear somebody justify it with logic and reason... but I doubt that&#039;s possible.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2044, 232, 12, 1278778971, 7, 2045, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 1278785915, 'mikefails', '[quote author=Jenova link=topic=232.msg2041#msg2041 date=1278771508]<br />Franchises gave potential opportunity to have phenomenally skilled players all reside on one team.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Uh, kinda.&nbsp; Probably the most stacked teams in IDL history were Season 5 DMR (Chain, White, Fast, Shakal) and Season 7 SPE (Denny, Bones, METALBLACK and Goatface), but neither went all the way.&nbsp; So you&#039;re kinda right, but team stacking isn&#039;t guaraneed success - at this point it&#039;s actually statistical failure.<br /><br />[quote author=Jenova link=topic=232.msg2041#msg2041 date=1278771508]<br />I&#039;m unsure exactly how draft order is decided (presumably not by skill) but simply put this allows for stacked teams. It would essentially enable one captain to obtain their two top picks with little interference.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />It&#039;s a little complicated.&nbsp; Teams have a given amount of time to franchise a player, if they don&#039;t then they get an extra pick before the &quot;real&quot; draft starts.&nbsp; Draft order itself is (in reverse) mb winner, mb runner-up, best to worst regular season record.&nbsp; So in some ways yeah, it is skill.&nbsp; Actually most ways it&#039;s skill; it&#039;s one of the best changes we made in Season 5.<br /><br />[quote author=Jenova link=topic=232.msg2041#msg2041 date=1278771508]<br />You could have a really good captain such as Nostar or Ralphis franchise someone like whiteboy, and still be eligible for a high ranking pick.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />This doesn&#039;t happen anymore because Nostar and Ralphis always do really well in the regular season and thus get a shitty draft spot the next season.&nbsp; I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s foolproof, you&#039;ve probably got 2 or 3 ways it can fail in your mind already, but so far it&#039;s working.&nbsp; Season 7 SPE is an example where a dominant captain picked up a dominant franchise player and had 1st pick on top of it, but still let the masterbowl slip away.<br /><br />[quote author=Jenova link=topic=232.msg2041#msg2041 date=1278771508]<br />This doesn&#039;t exactly favour new IDL captains, or captains who have a &quot;bad record&quot; with previous seasons. I&#039;m almost positive that nobody would have actually wanted to franchise with me.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />You might be surprised whom players want to play with.&nbsp; Whiteboy&#039;s a good example of an unpredictable player in that regard.&nbsp; One of the most interesting things about IDL is learning to play at a high level with players you&#039;ve never played with before.&nbsp; Plus, most players love playing with a dominant player, and you&#039;re currently one of the top runners in the game, so I wouldn&#039;t sell myself short if I were you.<br /><br />EDIT: quote was messed up and it bugged me so i fixed it', 'xx', 1);
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	(2065, 226, 12, 1278850637, 37, 2065, 'Re: IDEA: Tiebreaker Rule Change', 'Tony', 'red.doomer@gmail.com', '164.76.209.253', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Tai link=topic=226.msg1978#msg1978 date=1277563566]<br />[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=226.msg1974#msg1974 date=1277395393]<br />No one cares about tennis.<br />[/quote]<br />[/quote]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2075, 235, 12, 1278909037, 147, 2075, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 13 - Jul 20) : ZDCTF01 (MAP01) - Discussion and Results', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.93.251.5', 1, 0, '', 'SUC v DMR<br /><br />Ralphis be in the best of moods after taking his first loss in 17 or so weeks, and is gonna make sure the upset doesn&#039;t happen.&nbsp; DMR showed a lot of spunk last week, but SUC is a powerhouse that will show their merit once again<br /><br />SUC 2-0<br /><br />BSK - SPE<br /><br />A titanic clash with lots of stuff on the line.&nbsp; Both teams seem to be playing really well, as BSK knocked off previously unbeaten SUC and SPE gave BBC a real run for it.&nbsp; I&#039;ve gotta lean a little bit towards BSK though, just by how sharp they looked last week.&nbsp; Stall is really good here, and we all know what Jen can do.&nbsp; I just think BSK is a little more dynamic, and that it&#039;s the dynamicism that will bring them to glory this week.<br /><br />BSK 2-0-1<br /><br />BBC - KGB<br /><br />i h8 u nostar<br /><br />BBC 2-0<br /><br />FLS - EBL<br /><br />EBL outfrags us 123123123 - 4 and wins both games in 2 minutes, 43 seconds.<br /><br />EBL 2-0', 'xx', 1);
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	(2105, 226, 12, 1279055658, 10, 2105, 'Re: IDEA: Tiebreaker Rule Change', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'It&#039;s friggin Bon Jovi dude', 'xx', 1);
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	(3919, 394, 1, 1302611476, 75, 3919, 'Re: An IDL 8v8 mappack', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '178.209.142.37', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=394.msg3918#msg3918 date=1302589816]<br />Smart captains will go 2nd and build their team for a specific map anyway, which is a massive advantage. Although, this will not be mitigated by anything! Why did I bring it up haaaaaaaaaaaaaa fuck.<br />[/quote]<br />[i]well[/i], since the smart captain goes second, he should have to call the map along his first pick. that way the other cap can react to it with his last 1/2/3 picks and there will be less douchebag picks like map14/31 when team one averages over 100 ping. &quot;yo guys let&#039;s just abuse our advantage the most we can even before the game!&quot;', 'xx', 1);
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	(4184, 438, 16, 1308283073, 8, 4184, 'Re: S2011 FREE AGENTS - TRADE HISTORY - WAIVER WIRE', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '98.234.131.145', 1, 0, '', '[b]Sexual Panthers[/b]<br />Traded Soul Sucka to Free Agency for Nosturi (Week 2)', 'xx', 1);
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	(8994, 889, 1, 1369099654, 16, 8994, 'Re: BK Interview #2 - mikehail', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '98.216.91.67', 1, 0, '', 'Intriguing. : )', 'xx', 1);
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	(4683, 496, 18, 1315239234, 147, 4683, 'Re: Season 10 / Summer 2011 Playoffs - MASTERBOWL X - Discussion and Results ', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.35.212', 1, 0, '', 'Yeah that was a doozy.&nbsp; Not sure about this, but probably the first MB where the team that won actually got outflagged over the course of the game.&nbsp; Stall was so sick, and as a whole BBC was really good.&nbsp; I&#039;m pretty sure this won&#039;t be the only time you see the Masterbowl, Prime.&nbsp; Keep up the good work!', 'xx', 1);
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	(1991, 225, 12, 1277936118, 49, 1991, 'Re: Week 3 (Jun 21 - Jun 27) : ZDCTF18 (MAP18) - Discussion and Results', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '24.154.81.230', 1, 0, '', 'http://www.speedyshare.com/files/23202869/2010.06.27_22.51.54_idl2010h.108.zdo', 'xx', 1);
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	(2015, 232, 12, 1278548942, 7, 2015, 'Maybe too early, but....', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'So do you guys regret repealing franchising now?&nbsp; Plenty of super teams, plenty of totally failing teams, plenty of players who aren&#039;t happy with their situations.........&nbsp; I&#039;m just saying that franchising fixed a lot of problems, and now we have this season.&nbsp; Anyone have buyer&#039;s remorse yet?', 'xx', 1);
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	(2036, 232, 12, 1278737773, 130, 2039, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 1278745631, 'nostar', '[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2033#msg2033 date=1278716462]<br />You called BSK and FLS overrated. BSK just beat SUC as you saw, and FLS...really? They&#039;re not good now WHY?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />BSK has 3 wins right now, after being called the toughest team in the league. One of those wins was against DMR and the other against SPE without Denny.<br /><br />FLS can&#039;t get 3 competent AND well pinging players on at any given time. Rus shows up intermittently and LB shows and blows. Ladna took a week off and FLS lost it&#039;s captain. It&#039;s a mess.<br /><br />[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2033#msg2033 date=1278716462]<br />Xen benched White in Week 1. Then Goatfail handed him Hatred on a platter, and now Nero wants to ragequit. Ending franchising caused THAT?! <br />[/quote]<br /><br />The IDC is a mess and always has been. Bad caps (you included) and dumb caps (you included) have made it that way. The only reason you&#039;re pissed is because now you&#039;re going to be knocked out in the 1st round. Maybe you should have done some trading? Also I have no ill-will toward Nero. I know he sorta got jerked around this season and I&#039;d be surprised if he signs up again. He&#039;s a good player that never got his due in my opinion.<br /><br />It&#039;s sad that our administration can&#039;t keep IDL competitive like it should be. Stop adhering to dumb shits on the board and just make things really stacked. Make 8 even teams, fuck a draft. The real possibility of winning IDL will produce better games than trying to maintain some fairytale fairness nonsense.<br /><br />[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2033#msg2033 date=1278716462]<br />Practices? I think KGB has managed to get practice with every team in the league. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />KGB has been one of the only teams I see practicing consistently. I think you&#039;ve not been a complete moron this season, even though you have a clear talent ceiling.<br /><br />My post was mostly about how&nbsp; franchising fixed a lot of the problems we&#039;re seeing this season. Players bailing for better squads, no scheduling success, no shows, bad captaining. It all changes when you play with people you like. Take Fast bailing in the euros one season then playing with me and Ralph the next. If you play with people you&#039;re confident and comfortable with you do better and the league does better.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2046, 232, 12, 1278786729, 7, 2046, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=HumanBones link=topic=232.msg2045#msg2045 date=1278780210]<br />I just got bored, personally.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Well I think there&#039;s something to be said for that.&nbsp; I&#039;m not gonna stand here and pretend like this season isn&#039;t really interesting, it really is.&nbsp; I do think that it&#039;s less competitive and a little more dramatic than franchise-era seasons.&nbsp; Plus, bored players is something we try to avoid in IDL, it&#039;s definitely a valid complaint.&nbsp; I will submit, though, that you hate people, and you probably got tired of dealing with them rofl.<br /><br />[quote author=HumanBones link=topic=232.msg2045#msg2045 date=1278780210]<br />I captained for a good 6 seasons and I always made the playoffs.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I&#039;ll be the first to say that captaining is as hard as you make it, and while some teams need more dedication than others it&#039;s not this agonizing chore that some make it out to be.&nbsp; In a lot of ways it&#039;s the best way to experience IDL because you&#039;re right in the middle of all the decisions: draft, trade, strategy, etc.&nbsp; But at the same time, I think that asking the same 10 people to captain every single season is asking too much.&nbsp; This season I&#039;m really enjoying just concentrating on my game and being the best Doomer I can be, and I think everyone has the right to that at some point; or even just taking some time off - IDL is pretty intense if you care about Doom and winning, so sometimes I just need to step back and go outside.&nbsp; Maybe we should set term limits on captains or something.<br /><br />[quote author=HumanBones link=topic=232.msg2045#msg2045 date=1278780210]<br />Most of them are pretty stupid.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Well, most people don&#039;t sit around all day thinking about IDL and league dynamics.&nbsp; I mean, you know the kinds of conversations we have in IRC, we beat things to death in a way you can&#039;t really do just by yourself or on the forums.&nbsp; But that can lead to weird perspectives so I&#039;m glad that players are so willing to speak up if they think something sucks.&nbsp; However, it&#039;s also our responsibility to make sure we&#039;re acting in the interest of the league even if it&#039;s unpopular.&nbsp; Like no one likes enforcing rules and practically making teams lose, but it&#039;s the best solution we&#039;ve come up with to a difficult problem.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2066, 232, 12, 1278866232, 19, 2066, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.9.221', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=232.msg2060#msg2060 date=1278836251]<br />Going to have to explain that one to me Xen I don&#039;t follow that at all.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=232.msg2055#msg2055 date=1278823056]<br />I&#039;ll just say this first off, looking at this season from the outside I just think all the best players mainly hold grudges and take doom way too seriously.[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious IN THE SAME PARAGRAPH link=topic=232.msg2055#msg2055 date=1278823056]I don&#039;t hold grudges against anyone.[/quote]<br /><br /> :-X', 'xx', 1);
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	(2106, 226, 12, 1279056148, 35, 2106, 'Re: IDEA: Tiebreaker Rule Change', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.240.85.23', 1, 0, '', 'really? Didn&#039;t know jon bon was that effeminate looking', 'xx', 1);
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	(2144, 241, 1, 1280535839, 131, 2144, 'Re: What the IDL community needs a lot less of...', 'Gyrossman', 'mistero@seznam.cz', '89.103.39.137', 1, 0, '', 'Oh, so I&#039;m not welcome all of a sudden? :-\\', 'xx', 1);
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	(2161, 243, 12, 1281060269, 49, 2161, 'Re: IDL SUMMER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '24.154.81.230', 1, 0, '', '[b][color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />[list type=decimal]<br />[li]Hatred[/li]<br />[li]Ralphis[/li]<br />[li]Rottking[/li]<br />[li]Joshsmith[/li]<br />[li]Xenaero[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[b][color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />[list type=decimal]<br />[li]Nostar[/li]<br />[li]Fluffles[/li]<br />[li]Jenova[/li]<br />[li]LordBritish[/li]<br />[li]RussianDumbass[/li]<br />[/list]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2182, 242, 1, 1281196059, 130, 2182, 'Re: Remembering ex-IDL players', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'cheez it = yuna<br />rage = shadow_ghost?<br /><br />let&#039;s hear it for grep [name] | uniquenames.py', 'xx', 1);
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	(3106, 355, 14, 1293263746, 10, 3106, 'MOVED: Effective Immediately ', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'This topic has been moved to [url=http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?board=1.0]General Discussion[/url].<br /><br />[iurl]http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?topic=354.0[/iurl]', 'moved', 1);
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	(3920, 406, 14, 1302647176, 158, 3920, 'Re: Regular Season Discussion', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '64.56.226.8', 1, 0, '', 'MassVC was already in the MB once though!', 'xx', 1);
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	(8866, 499, 1, 1365615024, 3, 8866, 'Re: North America Vs Europe', 'Joshsmith', 'tonihawker666@yahoo.com', '99.9.214.154', 1, 0, '', 'let&#039;s go bub', 'xx', 1);
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	(4185, 447, 18, 1308294073, 19, 4185, 'Re: Week 2 (Jun 13 - Jun 19) : CC11: Isolation (MAP 28) - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.251.23', 1, 0, '', 'Are Sam and Dave very strange? They must dance in the mountains. They eat shrimp carefully. I enjoy eating shrimp. Alice&nbsp; eats shrimp very quietly. Does Alice&nbsp; frequently study English in front of the bank? I have studied English under the bridge twice. Mrs. Baker&nbsp; was afraid to dig a hole behind the building. Did Mrs. Baker&nbsp; dig a hole?<br /><br />Ms. Smith&nbsp; studied English for three hours a few weeks ago...', 'xx', 1);
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	(4548, 491, 18, 1313151625, 0, 4548, 'Re: Season 10 / Summer 2011 Playoffs - Quarterfinal Round - Discussion and Results', 'capodecima', '', '88.103.101.55', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/2068/playoffbracketss10.png[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2016, 232, 12, 1278555453, 147, 2016, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.93.251.5', 1, 0, '', 'i wasn&#039;t really around for the franchising era, but I guess it comes down to the best captains are gonna win every time.&nbsp; That&#039;s why Ralph and Nostar are undefeated.&nbsp; During the franchise era, the best players will (likely) want to franchise with them, and they (apparently) are the only ones smart enough to draft right without franchising.&nbsp; Also, having themselves on each of their teams helps a lot too.&nbsp; I dunno, it is what it is I guess.&nbsp; That being said, I&#039;m the greatest captain ever and if I had a decent connection that would show.&nbsp; Just saying.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3107, 352, 14, 1293295287, 35, 3107, 'Re: ALERT: OFFICIAL WINTER 2011 IDL-R SCHEDULE RELEASE', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.240.85.23', 1, 0, '', 'my brother wants to sign up', 'xx', 1);
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	(3229, 361, 14, 1294854950, 130, 3229, 'Re: Who will be rookie of the year (season)?', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'Mostly ROY will depend on how much time these rookies get. So here is how that breaks down:<br /><br />[b]Noob/Turska:[/b] As in fantasy sports, timeshares pull some value but are often the best decision for their teams. I don&#039;t really know which maps noob likes so we&#039;ll find out where he fits as the season progresses.<br /><br />[b]Rust:[/b] It&#039;s really hard to consider him a rookie. If you consider how important he will be to his team, Rust probably wins this hands down. I was surprised to see him go first round, not because he&#039;s not there skill-wise, but because I could see Hatred getting him 2nd round. Side note, Hatred botched his draft picks.<br /><br />[b]Prime:[/b] This dude looks good this year. So good in fact that it lead me to question him! However his play in IDL has so far been excellent and he will probably get the majority of starts for SPE. ROY might be a little lofty, but he&#039;s playing well and deserves a look.<br /><br />[b]MassVC:[/b] I want Mass to get playing time, but it seems like he will end up on the bench at this point. It would be nice to see him traded to a team that needs his skill set though. He has a great shot and can hold up well on a team with solid defense. Not that anyone actually takes advantage of trading.<br /><br /><br />Those are my votes, the guys unmentioned aren&#039;t contenders to me. Aside from Higgs having a ridiculous shot and Aerial pretty much being as old as zdaemon, those guys aren&#039;t team changers, they&#039;re stand-ins in my opinion. Reck, Mando and Dawson won&#039;t see enough time to get nods so I suspect it will be either Turska, for sheer awesomeness, or Rust because he&#039;s the only Rookie playing the 2.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2040, 232, 12, 1278748341, 130, 2040, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 1278748469, 'nostar', '[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2038#msg2038 date=1278744924]<br />So franchising would&#039;ve prevented Shadow&#039;s boss from telling him to come to work around the time of his IDL match? Ok. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />No but it might have let him construct a team that wasn&#039;t so dependent on him to do well. It&#039;s really funny how narrowly you read my comments. Let&#039;s take a look at more ignorant things you said.<br /><br />[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2038#msg2038 date=1278744924]<br />So franchising prevented mike from suddenly disappearing for god knows what come our IDC Championship match?&nbsp; Er...no offense to mike, but no it didn&#039;t. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />From what I hear you decided to play without him on a number of occasions and went with an Oath/Dev combo. I&#039;m not too clear on the details but really last season you have a stellar chance to win and you botched it big time. Can&#039;t pin it on mike when it&#039;s chronic failure!<br /><br />[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2038#msg2038 date=1278744924]<br />Didn&#039;t Fast almost not play for you and Ralphis over some dispute, saying he was done or something? I could argue that he realized if he quit then, he may have effectively ended his IDL career. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />Yes and we would have drafted Xray and won anyway. That is because Fast quitting our team wouldn&#039;t have tanked us Tai. Because Ralph had a player he choose and could rely on. Franchising stabilizing teams that way is a point I tried to make. You are very dense.<br /><br />[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2038#msg2038 date=1278744924]<br />You speak of Fast ragequitting on the Euros, but one of the reasons he bailed on them is because Nero traded Jkist to SUC for Dewww, and SUC ended up with the same team that won a title the season before, while SPE was significantly worse. Heck, for all we know, Fast knew that&nbsp; if he ragequit SPE, he guaranteed Nero didn&#039;t make the playoffs and was shafted as captain since that&#039;d be 2 straight seasons he watched the playoffs &quot;on green or white&quot;. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />This whole thing is mostly nonsense. JKist was traded to SUC after SPE got a losing record and was floundering. Also he was traded for Mortal (undefeated at the time). Mortal is a great player and it is my opinion that a team of Fast, Nero, Dewww and Mortal would have not only made playoffs but might have gone as far as conference. Fast bailed because he was unhappy with his captain and lame in general. Not even franchising will fix that.<br /><br />[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2038#msg2038 date=1278744924]<br />And BSK...you say they have 3 wins; you mean 3 wins and a tie. That&#039;s not terrible in 5 weeks, no matter how you try to downplay how they got them. I mean, everyone&#039;s gotta play DMR eventually, you know. And I already told you about Shadow.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />No I meant 3 wins. Don&#039;t correct me you cockeyed faggot. One win against DMR and one against a Denny-less SPE. Until this week they were a flop. 3-1-1 isn&#039;t terrible, but it&#039;s not what they are capable of. I do think they&#039;ll do okay but they certainly weren&#039;t a tough team when I played them.<br /><br />[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2038#msg2038 date=1278744924]<br />If Rus having a life means he&#039;s only showing up intermittenly, I may have to sign up for a life. Er...LB sure showed up in prac against you on Map20! 8 ) It seems FLS merely changed hands as far as captain as opposed to &quot;lose&quot; it. Unless they just suck for the rest of the season, I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s a big deal. It&#039;s not like they traded someone over night like some teams did. Same for Ladna taking a week off; assuming it was vacation, god forbid someone does that in the summer. I mean, are you suggesting he doesn&#039;t take this week off if franchising was in place?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />You misunderstand. I&#039;m not blaming any of these people for all of IDL&#039;s troubles. I&#039;m saying that franchising, while difficult to discern for some uneducated inmates, fixed a lot of problems on an interpersonal level. It also added a lot of talent that you guys are so adamantly pointing to as a cause for this seasons...underwhelming-ness.<br /><br />Cool, you guys all like this system. It&#039;s okay I guess. Statistically it has very little difference from franchising, if just a little more of a disparity in team records. Let&#039;s assume it&#039;s all just coincidence that more trades have happened this season than probably ever before in IDL and our player base is dwindling. It will continue to dwindle if the prospect of being on Tai&#039;s team looms in the distance I assure you.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2067, 232, 12, 1278866736, 163, 2067, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '72.240.150.213', 1, 0, '', 'Yeah Fast, I remember when the IDL had a mid-season draft back in 2006/2007ish. Although it certainly didn&#039;t fix everything I still feel like it could help someone like DMR. Say that I was still on DMR and oaf or chaindude were available all season in FA even though they weren&#039;t invited and decided they wanted to be on a team. Okay, so we drop quik or souler (no offense, just the nature of the bizz&#039;) and pick one of them up. All of a sudden, DMR goes from being the worst team in the league to possibly a real contender. I&#039;m just saying, for lack of talent in the first initial draft, I think the mid-season draft or FA list would have solved a lot of this. <br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(2076, 235, 12, 1278909333, 15, 2076, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 13 - Jul 20) : ZDCTF01 (MAP01) - Discussion and Results', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.95.88', 1, 1278909426, 'ItalianStallion', '[b]Super Chargers vs Doom Raiders (DIV)[/b]<br /><br />DMR might suprise some people on this map.&nbsp; But I think this really comes down to how rottking plays.&nbsp; He gets into his zone where his aim is impeccable.&nbsp; Goat might do some lag caps to keep DMR alive, but I gotta&nbsp; give this one to SUC.<br /><br />SUC 2-1<br /><br />These other two match-ups will be really exciting to watch. All four teams having to prove what they&#039;re made of.<br /><br />[b]Flag Steelers vs Electric Bills[/b]<br /><br />EBL got their final piece of the puzzle which is hatred.&nbsp; Although they were claimed at the beginning of the season to be a runner for the masterbowl, things just weren&#039;t clicking for them.&nbsp; I really can&#039;t see lb getting flags out of this map, not his style of game nor can I see ladna out fragging the mid to keep control if lb comes out of it alive.&nbsp; EBL has the fragging power they need on this map to come out with the win.<br /><br />2-0 EBL<br /><br /><br />[b]Brokeback Cowboys vs Killing Browns[/b]<br /><br />Nostar spamming rockets at the spawn, mike doing the runs and mid doing his thing.&nbsp; Pretty good idea for this map, but will the frag power of KGB obliterate any offensive strategy BBC has?&nbsp; I think so, I believe this will be the end of the remaining loss-less team in this season of the IDL.&nbsp; Tai will be on a mission this week, and I think he will pull his team through this with dedication and plenty of practice.<br /><br />2-1 KGB. <br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(2145, 239, 12, 1280537161, 12, 2145, 'Re: Week 7 (Jul 19 - Jul 25) : 32in24-7 MAP27 (MAP32) - Discussion and Results', 'RottKing', 'rottking@sbcglobal.net', '76.250.195.215', 1, 0, '', 'LADNA LAND LANDALD NADLADN ALDADNMA KDANADLK<br /><br />http://rottking.unidoom.org/sucvsbbc-week7-s8.zip', 'xx', 1);
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	(2231, 248, 12, 1281719517, 19, 2231, 'Re: Co-MVPs', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.3.36', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ralphis link=topic=248.msg2230#msg2230 date=1281716820]<br /><br />[center][size=5][b]Ralphis &amp; Nostar - Best Friends Forever[/b][/size][/center]<br />[/quote]<br /><br />[center][size=4][b]<br />[color=black]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color]<br />[color=black]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;&#9619;[/color]<br />[color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color]<br />[color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color]<br />[color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color]<br />[color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color]<br />[color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color]<br />[color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;[/color][color=red][color=red]&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color]<br />[color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color]<br />[color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color]<br />[color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color]<br />[color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color]<br />[color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color]<br />[color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color]<br />[color=black]&#9619;[/color][color=white]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=red]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color][color=black]&#9619;[/color]<br />[color=black]&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;&#9619;[/color]<br />[/b][/size][/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3921, 420, 1, 1302665599, 89, 3921, 'Re: Seeking New Commissioner ', 'Solar_Flare', 'cdstrangle@gmail.com', '69.154.190.236', 1, 0, '', 'IDL moves to Skulltag.', 'xx', 1);
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	(7073, 684, 22, 1340243637, 38, 7073, 'Re: Draft Results Speculation Thread', 'Sabertooth', 'ssj4chazou@hotmail.com', '74.91.72.110', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=684.msg7072#msg7072 date=1340242548]<br />[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=684.msg7069#msg7069 date=1340226821]<br />[quote]ItalianStallion[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=684.msg7068#msg7068 date=1340226624]<br />Can&#039;t wait to get into the grind with my boy saber. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=684.msg7068#msg7068 date=1340226624]<br />b0yz 4 lyfe<br />[/quote]<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/I0kID.gif[/img]<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I LOVE IT<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I had no idea Shane was black.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3109, 352, 14, 1293384121, 2, 3109, 'Re: ALERT: OFFICIAL WINTER 2011 IDL-R SCHEDULE RELEASE', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.57.203', 1, 0, '', 'That isn&#039;t a bad idea stall, the way Goat and myself saw it however, was that IDL-R teams would have a chance to directly practice with IDL teams thus increasing their skill and exposure, since the schedule is pretty similar!&nbsp; ', 'xx', 1);
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	(8959, 888, 3, 1367945330, 10, 8959, 'YEA WHAT', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '98.225.132.74', 1, 0, '', 'START SOME SHIT WHAT', 'xx', 1);
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	(6631, 639, 21, 1333557142, 17, 6631, 'Re: IDL-R Invite List/Signup Thread', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '65.79.1.34', 1, 1333557325, 'Mionic_D', 'Week one is kind of shot for me (except Sunday) but Im pretty available afterwards. (General Avail. = All evenings except Fridays and Saturdays, not available at all on Saturdays) Sign me up but be aware of my availability.<br /><br />Name: MionicDonut<br />Country: USA<br />Email contact: Sparx7300@yahoo.com (Implying I check that)<br />Instant Message Contact: irc or facebook (A few of you have me)<br />Regular Availability: Mon-Thurs evenings. All Day Sunday. <br />[b] ONLY AVAILABLE SUNDAY FOR WEEK 1![/b]', 'xx', 1);
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	(1894, 223, 12, 1274886634, 2, 1894, 'Post Draft Discussion', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.48.249', 1, 0, '', 'So teams are finalized, what do you guys think about this season and this seasons draft??<br /><br />Electric Bills&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (c) Xenaero&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (1) Whiteboy&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  (16) dewww&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (17) Climhazzard<br />Doom Raiders&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  (c) Goatface&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (2) Hatred&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  (15) QuickSilver&nbsp;  (18) MionicDonut<br />Killing Browns&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (c) Tai&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  (3) KillingBlair&nbsp; &nbsp; (14) Strangle&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (19) XRay<br />Berserker Packers&nbsp;  (c) Jenova&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (4) ItallionStallion&nbsp; &nbsp; (13) Sabertooth&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (20) Nero<br />Brokeback Cowboys&nbsp;  (c) Nostar&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (5) Mikehail&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  (12) Midian&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  (21) Collision<br />Flag Steelers&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (c) LordBritish&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (6) Rus&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  (11) Ladna&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (22) WraithVerge<br />Spread Eagles&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (c) Shadow_Ghost&nbsp;  (7) JoshSmith&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  (10) Mantis-X&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (23) Roscoe<br />Super Chargers&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (c) Ralphis&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (8) RottKing&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  (9) Gyrossman&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (24) Rexn0r<br /><br />rott gets a smiley cuz hes cool yo', 'xx', 1);
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	(1893, 222, 12, 1274864417, 37, 1895, 'Week 1 (Jun 7 - Jun 13) ZDECTF2 (MAP29) Speculation', 'Tony', 'red.doomer@gmail.com', '68.42.109.61', 1, 1274895358, 'mikefails', '[img]http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6223/elbvskgb.gif[/img]<br />[b]ELB wins 9000-0[/b]<br />[hr]<br /><br />[img]http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5492/spevssuc.gif[/img]<br />RottKing has some rust to shake off if the Super Chargers want a chance to win.&nbsp; I think that Shadow has a solid team and the Spread Eagles are going to have to work very hard for this victory.&nbsp; I think if Ralphis isn&#039;t too busy rearing his ugly head into things SPE can come out on top, but that&#039;s a big if...<br /><br />[b]Prediction: SUC 2-1 SPE[/b]<br />[hr]<br /><br />[img]http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2231/flsvsbsk.gif[/img]<br />Jenova put together quite the team this season, managing to grab both ItallionStallion and Sabertooth.&nbsp; LordBritish also has a pretty nice team with Rus and Ladna, but I think they come into this game as slight underdogs.&nbsp; The frag-heavy Berserker Packers on this weeks map will prove a tough opponent for LordBritish&#039;s team.&nbsp; I think that if LB and Ladna really work together to put out some good offense they can pull off an upset.<br /><br />[b]Prediction: BSK 2-1 FLS[/b]<br />[hr]<br /><br />[img]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2400/bbcvsdmr.gif[/img]<br />With Nostar on defense, midian playing support, and Mikehail running his ass off, I just can&#039;t see the Doom Raiders winning this game, although I&#039;d like Goatface and his team to prove me otherwise.<br /><br />[b]BBC 2-0 DMR in a landslide.[/b]<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(2017, 233, 12, 1278558605, 2, 2017, 'Week 5 (Jul 5 - Jul 12) : ZDECTF2-01 (MAP20) - Discussion and Results', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.36.4', 1, 0, '', '[center][b][size=5]Official Servers for Week 5 of IDL Summer 2010[/size][/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League Week 5 - MAP20 - A][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11022[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League Week 5 - MAP20 - B][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11023[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League Week 5 - MAP20 - C][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11024[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League Week 5 - MAP20 - D][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11025[/b]<br /><br />=======================================================<br />[b]<br />Killing Browns vs Electric Bills (DIV)<br /><br />Brokeback Cowboys vs Spread Eagles<br /><br />Berserker Packers vs Super Chargers<br /><br />Flag Steelers vs Doom Raiders[/b]<br /><br />=======================================================[/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3108, 352, 14, 1293344137, 15, 3108, 'Re: ALERT: OFFICIAL WINTER 2011 IDL-R SCHEDULE RELEASE', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.94.122', 1, 0, '', 'I think if we continue this league in seasons to come, it should start before the season of the real men&#039;s IDL.&nbsp; So us captain can scout some games before we&#039;re busy dealing with our own.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2146, 136, 1, 1280549059, 19, 2146, 'Re: It''s coming', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.9.221', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://i30.tinypic.com/yjyhy.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4629, 496, 18, 1314313885, 157, 4629, 'Season 10 / Summer 2011 Playoffs - MASTERBOWL X - Discussion and Results ', 'Legion_', 'skulltaglegion@hotmail.com', '71.115.112.157', 1, 0, '', '[center][b][size=5]Official Servers for The Masterbowl Round of IDL Summer 2011 [/size][/b]<br /><br />[color=red][:: TotalTrash Chicago :: IDL- A][/color]<br />[b]66.225.195.41:11022[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][:: TotalTrash Chicago :: IDL- B][/color]<br />[b]66.225.195.41:11023[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][:: TotalTrash Chicago :: IDL -C][/color]<br />[b]66.225.195.41:11024[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][:: TotalTrash Chicago :: IDL- D][/color]<br />[b]66.225.195.41:11025[/b]<br /><br />[b][size=5]Alternate Servers for The Masterbowl Round of IDL Summer 2011 [/size][/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][NJ FUNCRUSHER + || IDL Practice][/color]<br />[b]66.45.244.218:10663[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][NJ FUNCRUSHER + || IDL Summer 2011][/color]<br />[b]66.45.244.218:10662[/b]<br />=======================================================[/center]<br />[b][size=6][color=red][shadow=red,left]Doom Raiders[/shadow][/color][/size][/b]<br /><br />[center][size=5][color=red][shadow=red,left]V[/shadow][/color][color=blue][shadow=blue,right]S[/shadow][/color][/size][/center]<br /><br />[right][size=6][color=blue][b][shadow=blue,right]Brokeback Cowboys[/shadow][/b][/color][/size][/right]<br /><br />[center]=======================================================[/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2262, 248, 12, 1281842050, 15, 2262, 'Re: Co-MVPs', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.97.218', 1, 0, '', 'Ralphis clearly rigged the votes!', 'xx', 1);
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	(3922, 406, 14, 1302668964, 214, 3922, 'Re: Regular Season Discussion', 'RustInPeace', 'sindeception@yahoo.com', '69.154.190.236', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Jenova link=topic=406.msg3920#msg3920 date=1302647176]<br />MassVC was already in the MB once though!<br />[/quote]<br />Yep. Winter 2008, Virgin Roster vs The Best Around.<br /><br />He&#039;s definitely not a rookie either. Therefore ROY this season goes to Higgs. :P', 'xx', 1);
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	(5368, 528, 17, 1321301522, 89, 5368, 'Re: Should people who don''t play in the IDL have a say in the IDL?', 'Solar_Flare', 'cdstrangle@gmail.com', '69.154.184.236', 1, 0, '', 'Shotgun Vikings here we come', 'xx', 1);
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	(5336, 532, 17, 1321071601, 130, 5336, 'Re: A CTF Guide For The New Guys', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '173.89.198.215', 1, 0, '', 'I don&#039;t want anyone to ever get any better. If you&#039;ve read this far you&#039;ve read too much and I hate you.', 'xx', 1);
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	(9029, 798, 3, 1369704865, 2303, 9029, 'Re: Hello', 'Watermelon', 'watermelonst@hotmail.com', '99.245.130.4', 1, 0, '', 'Thanks&nbsp; ??? ??? ??? ???', 'xx', 1);
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	(4186, 447, 18, 1308362520, 19, 4186, 'Re: Week 2 (Jun 13 - Jun 19) : CC11: Isolation (MAP 28) - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.251.23', 1, 1308362889, 'Xenaero', 'Isolation is a good map name. Caboose should be put in isolation for this steaming lump of dirt. I felt like the guy screaming &quot;AHUWW&quot; in Them Bones literally every time I spawned because the gay wizard of [r] apparently can&#039;t make spawns work properly so we all suffer. god go Fuck Yourself<br /><br />On another note I&#039;d like to say I hate ties but I hate LB even more. Still got my vendetta on u<br /><br />[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/xSYwC.png[/img]<br />[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/E1OaA.png[/img]<br />[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/RmVN5.png[/img]<br /><br />Demo: http://xen.unidoom.org/doom/idl/IDLX-Week2-SUC-vs-DMR-povXen.zip', 'xx', 1);
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	(1895, 222, 12, 1274892851, 147, 1895, 'Re: Week 1 (Jun 7 - Jun 13) ZDECTF2 (MAP29) Speculation', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.93.251.5', 1, 1274896261, 'LordBritish', 'EBL - KGB<br /><br />EBL is really solid, and if Tony can shake off the rust and return to at least 75% of his top form, they will be really tough to beat.&nbsp; Xen and Whiteboy are frag Heros that should be able to just romp through the middle of the map, and either Tony or dewww should be crafty enough to sneak home some flags.&nbsp; Also pertinent is that nobody ever sneaks past Whiteboy unnoticed.&nbsp; Ever.<br /><br />I&#039;m not sure yet what to make of KGB.&nbsp; Tai&#039;s first two picks were player pretty well known as being defenders, so I guess he set the tone of KGB&#039;s season with those picks.&nbsp; X-Ray was a terrific pick for him, provided his laghax are functional and his attendance is good.&nbsp; However, I just don&#039;t think this is a very favorable matchup for KGB on this map.<br /><br />EBL 2-0 KGB behind Xen and Whiteboy&#039;s mid fragging.<br /><br />SPE - SUC<br /><br />A titanic clash early on between last season&#039;s Masterbowl combatants, and looking at the rosters, it&#039;s one that is sure not to disappoint.&nbsp; SPE has player capable of heavy frag totals at every position.&nbsp; I think if Josh and Denny decide to roam the mid, it could produce the same kind of gridlock that EBL is going for.&nbsp; Mantis is incredibly crafty as a runner, and playing on a map with numerous hidey-holes is beneficial, i think.<br /><br />On the other hand, you have two offensive juggernauts in Gyross and Ralph.&nbsp; I would imagine that Ralph will be taking more of an offensive mid role this year, attempting to reproduce a line-seg type offense by replacing LordBritish with Gyross.&nbsp; Not a bad replacement at all.&nbsp; I think this one is going to be incredibly close.<br /><br />1-1-1- Tie, with the last game being 3-3<br /><br />FLS - BSK<br /><br />2-0 BSK.&nbsp; They are just so unstoppable<br /><br />BBC - DMR<br /><br />EBL, DMR, KGB, and BSK are all my rivals because they let Nostar get mike.&nbsp; One of these rivals will take it on the chin this week.<br /><br />2-0 BBC', 'xx', 1);
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	(1809, 211, 12, 1274046217, 10, 1895, 'ALERT: OFFICIAL S2010 SCHEDULE RELEASE', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 1274905270, 'Ralphis', '[center][b]Week 1 - MAP29 ZDECTF2-19 ( JUN 7 THRU JUN 13 ) [/b]<br />------------<br />KGB v EBL (DIV)<br />SPE v SUC <br />FLS v BSK <br />BBC v DMR <br /><br />[b]Week 2 - MAP22 THIRTY7-22 ( JUN 14 THRU JUN 20 ) [/b]<br />------------<br />BBC v FLS (DIV)<br />SPE v KGB<br />BSK v DMR<br />SUC v EBL<br /><br />[b]Week 3 - MAP18 ZDCTF18 ( JUN 21 THRU JUN 27 )[/b]<br />------------<br />SUC v DMR (DIV)<br />BBC v BSK<br />SPE v EBL<br />FLS v KGB<br /><br />[b]Week 4 - MAP05 ZDECTF05 ( JUN 28 THRU JUL 4 )[/b]<br />------------<br />BSK v SPE (DIV)<br />FLS v SUC<br />DMR v KGB<br />BBC v EBL<br /><br />[b]Week 5 - MAP20 ZDECTF2-01 ( JUL 5 THRU JUL 11 )[/b]<br />------------<br />KGB v EBL (DIV)<br />BBC v SPE<br />BSK v SUC<br />FLS v DMR<br /><br />[b]Wednesday, July 7th - Trade Deadline[/b]<br /><br />[b]Week 6 - MAP01 ZDCTF01 ( JUL 12 THRU JUL 18 )[/b]<br />------------<br />SUC v DMR (DIV)<br />BSK v SPE (DIV)<br />FLS v EBL<br />BBC v KGB <br /><br />[b]Week 7 - MAP32 THIRTY7-27 ( JUL 19 THRU JUL 25 )<br />Homefield Selection Week[/b]<br />------------<br />BBC v SUC <br />FLS v SPE<br />BSK v KGB<br />DMR v EBL<br /><br />[b]Week 8 - MAP31 THIRTY4-31 ( JUL 26 THRU AUG 1 )[/b]<br />------------<br />BBC v FLS (DIV)<br />SUC v KGB<br />SPE v DMR<br />BSK v EBL<br /><br />[b]Wildcard Playoffs - ( AUG 2 THRU AUG 8 )[/b]<br /><br />[b]Conf. Championships - ( AUG 9 THRU AUG 15 )[/b]<br /><br />[b]MasterBowl VIII - MAP03 ZDCTF03 ( AUG 16 THRU AUG 22 )[/b][/center]', 'exclamation', 1);
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	(1896, 223, 12, 1274919022, 130, 1896, 'Re: Post Draft Discussion', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'i got miek, you&#039;re all deadzo', 'xx', 1);
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	(1897, 223, 12, 1274923736, 147, 1897, 'Re: Post Draft Discussion', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.93.251.5', 1, 0, '', 'Maybe I&#039;ll post my draft board in here later cuz it seems like everyone wants me to, but I don&#039;t think now is the time.&nbsp; Perhaps when I&#039;m 4-0.<br /><br />Anyway, what I will say is that going into the draft I was dead set on trading either up or down.&nbsp; However, the 4 guys I talked to above me (I didn&#039;t bother trying to wheel/deal with poopstar) all weren&#039;t interested.&nbsp; The guys below me, though, said they might have had some kind of interest in moving up if there was a guy they wanted.<br /><br />However, when I saw Rus sitting in my lap at 6 overall, I had to snatch him, so I was pretty happy about that.&nbsp; Then there is the infamous Ladna hatedraft, but again I wasn&#039;t gonna move out of that spot since I had Ladna going to SUC on most of my mock drafts that I wrote up. <br /><br />I think BSK did really well, seeing as how Stall fell into their lap, and they picked up a pretty versatile dude in Saber.&nbsp; I just hope his ping goes to hell and renders him useless. Bwarharhar.<br /><br />KGB had intriguing picks, going heavy defense on both their first 2 picks.&nbsp; I&#039;m pretty sure X-Ray is gonna be the top 3rd round pick this year though, so kudos to Tai on that one.<br /><br />SPE might be the heaviest fragging team of the season, with their front 3 all being monstrosities with an SSG.&nbsp; They remind me a little bit of BBC from last year, which isn&#039;t a bad mold to go by since they went to the Conf. Championship.<br /><br />Ralph surprised me by not taking Mantis or Ladna, but then again I didn&#039;t have Rott falling that far.&nbsp; He got a defender and a runner who are both really good, so SUC seems like they&#039;re gonna be the cream of the crop again.<br /><br />Nostar is a gay.<br /><br />Goat&#039;s picks were... interesting, and he lived up to his &quot;evil madman genius&quot; bill moreso than I did.&nbsp; Hatred was a surprising pick, but I don&#039;t think he was a bad one.&nbsp; Dude can play.&nbsp; If Donut can revive some of the old magic, then DMR could become a force<br /><br />And Xen... I think Xen did really well given his position.&nbsp; He took whiteboy which was the first stepping stone, and then took 2 high-risk, high-potential running candidates in dew and Clim.&nbsp; Much like Donut, if Clim can shake off the rust and become a force, I think EBL could go a long way.&nbsp; Also not to be forgotten is dew&#039;s craftiness and championship pedigree.<br /><br />And for myself... I think I had a pretty solid draft.&nbsp; I took good players that fit the system I am most comfortable with.&nbsp; Coming into the draft, judging by peoples&#039; predictions and my own mock drafts, I thought I would end up playing a lot of D this season.&nbsp; But the way it turned out, I ended up drafting 3 guys with better SSG aim than me, so those dreams kind of fell by the wayside.&nbsp; Maybe next year LB, maybe next year...', 'xx', 1);
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	(1898, 222, 12, 1274937684, 7, 1898, 'Re: Week 1 (Jun 7 - Jun 13) ZDECTF2 (MAP29) Speculation', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'This map is really complicated and fun, I think it&#039;s a great map to start the season off; kudos to Ralphis for picking it, he did a great job.<br /><br />EBL vs. KGB<br /><br />A juicy matchup to open up the season indeed.&nbsp; This is 100% a Whiteboy map, which is good, because dewww will need all the help he can get.&nbsp; KGB can try to manage White as best they can, while capitalizing on the few flag touches they get.&nbsp; Overall I think EBL has the edge here, unless the ping disadvantage is just too much for dewww.<br /><br />SPE vs. SUC<br /><br />This will be an exciting game, but nless SPE full on overpowers SUC, SUC will eek out a win.<br /><br />FLS vs. BSK<br /><br />I&#039;m gonna make Jenova cry while my poison jizz drips off his ugly, pimply face.&nbsp; 17-0 FLS.&nbsp; We&#039;ll play until you give up or your vaginas swell shut.<br /><br />BBC vs. DMR<br /><br />It&#039;s never easy playing the toughest team in the league in Week 1, but I think Goat can use this opportunity to motivate his team to hit the practice servers hard.&nbsp; If can get his team to gel, or at least whip Quik into shape, he can turn in a game he can be proud of.&nbsp; I think this week we&#039;ll see what the Raiders are made of; I don&#039;t expect a win, but I&#039;ll be watching how they prepare and how they play.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1899, 221, 12, 1274978415, 73, 1899, 'Re: Summer 2010 Draft Recorded in Ogg format', 'Quiksilver', 'joshbryantmusic@gmail.com', '68.57.224.163', 1, 0, '', 'Good listen. I wish I could Facebook like this.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1901, 223, 12, 1275084795, 19, 1901, 'Re: Post Draft Discussion', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '69.68.240.173', 1, 0, '', 'I withdraw from the IDL, find some other dude to cap for ebl', 'xx', 1);
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	(1905, 223, 12, 1275194156, 7, 1905, 'Re: Post Draft Discussion', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'dew is a violent drunk.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2018, 232, 12, 1278565600, 16, 2018, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '99.39.169.9', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ladna link=topic=232.msg2015#msg2015 date=1278548942]<br />So do you guys regret repealing franchising now?&nbsp; Plenty of super teams, plenty of totally failing teams, plenty of players who aren&#039;t happy with their situations.........&nbsp; I&#039;m just saying that franchising fixed a lot of problems, and now we have this season.&nbsp; Anyone have buyer&#039;s remorse yet?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Remorse for who? Same old, same old. Dumbass captain as a division rival, dumber captain as a conference rival. Former is done as a captain if he doesn&#039;t make playoffs, other one may feel it&#039;s not worth it. <br /><br />I mean, look at the MOST recent trades. What&#039;s franchising gonna do to prevent laughable things like that?&nbsp; :D<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(2068, 232, 12, 1278868829, 15, 2068, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.95.88', 1, 0, '', 'Maybe bring back the mid-season draft?&nbsp; But only allow it to the teams who are struggling, under 500 perhaps?&nbsp; So teams that are already doing well don&#039;t get &quot;omgwtf&quot; status.&nbsp; This would also help players who were not chosen in the initial draft to stick around and be apart of the community.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2130, 226, 12, 1279731913, 10, 2130, 'Re: IDEA: Tiebreaker Rule Change', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', '[center][html]<pre style="font: 10px/5px 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	(1902, 222, 12, 1275091745, 75, 1902, 'Re: Week 1 (Jun 7 - Jun 13) ZDECTF2 (MAP29) Speculation', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.179.159', 1, 0, '', 'EBL vs. KGB<br /><br />imagine your favourite ebl character clenching his fists and singing [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm9d5wAXW5c]this[/url]. kgb won&#039;t even show up heh.<br />10-0 forfeit!<br /><br />SPE vs. SUC<br /><br />a fantastic matchup imo. spe has the frag power to brute force their share of flags while suc will have ralph zombie running the flag and gyross making love to the timer. you know what i mean!<br />1-1-1 FUALL!<br /><br />FLS vs. BSK<br /><br />bsk&#039;s flag power is mad and this map is offense sex. fls can work with tactics and pacing and blahblah, but this design sucks for them.<br />0-2 BSK with one tie.<br /><br />BBC vs. DMR<br /><br />dmr&#039;s only hope is that nostar will bury himself deep in def and kill his team&#039;s dynamics. yeah, that&#039;s gonna happen, cause star&#039;s a simplistic retard.<br />2-0 bbc.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1900, 222, 12, 1274986586, 130, 1922, 'Re: Week 1 (Jun 7 - Jun 13) ZDECTF2 (MAP29) Speculation', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 1276042595, 'nostar', 'This map is a total juke map. Look for heavy handed defenses to be completely useless. <br /><br />EBL vs. KGB<br /><br />I don&#039;t even think this is a good matchup. I expect Tai to bomb again this season. Xen will get the good end of this. I actually hope Dewww sees the majority of playing time as Tony is still a complete rust bucket and Dewww is pretty hilarious on vent. Czechs cursing is just really adorable.<br /><br />SPE vs. SUC<br /><br />SUC kind of sucks on this map. I&#039;ll be honest I think their biggest problem is Rott. Gyross is a capable runner and Ralph can set himself anywhere and be effective more or less. Rott just has to find out where he is best on each map. On the other hand, Denny picked badly and will probably not make the playoffs so his wins will come primarily from the IDC, and this is one such opportunity for Denny to try to save a .500. I think It will be SPE, Rott is cursed.<br /><br />FLS vs. BSK<br /><br />Best matchup of the week. I expect BSK to come out on top here but it will be a flag storm either way. Both teams did really well in the draft so it&#039;s a good bet that the WDC will be chocked full of interesting matchups. This map will probably be decided by the amount of rambo that shows up. Rus get better you are LB&#039;s only hope. Ladna is too fat to chase Jen.<br /><br />BBC vs. DMR<br /><br />It&#039;s never easy playing the toughest team in the league in Week 1. Fortunately I won&#039;t even be here for this game. So Miek Mid and Collision will have to form a triangle of gr8ness and bury DMR. GOOOOOOO TEAM!', 'xx', 1);
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	(2019, 233, 12, 1278614015, 147, 2019, 'Re: Week 5 (Jul 5 - Jul 12) : ZDECTF2-01 (MAP20) - Discussion and Results', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.93.251.5', 1, 0, '', 'KGB - EBL<br /><br />EBL got a whole lot healthier with the addition of The Daddy.&nbsp; That being said, this is a really interesting matchup.&nbsp; Whiteboy should be able to do his thing in mid, and depending on how Xen feels, The Daddy&#039;s D is pretty solid here...<br /><br />on the KGB side, Josh plays a hard D here as well, controlling the SSG pretty capably.&nbsp; Tai will probably fly around in the mid and take white on for supremacy.&nbsp; Get it, white supremacy?&nbsp; Anyway I think that&#039;s gonna be the crucial matchup.&nbsp; And also, can KGB get enough out of X-Ray or strangle...<br /><br />EBL 2-0.&nbsp; WILL THIS BE THE WEEK THEY COME THROUGH FOR ME?!?!?!?!<br /><br />BBC - SPE<br /><br />Me, mike and Rudy all pinging triple digits beat SPE the other day, but then when nostar played with Rudy and mike they lost.&nbsp; What to make of this?&nbsp; Nostar sux.<br /><br />SPE 2-0<br /><br />BSK - SUC&nbsp;  **GAME OF THE WEEK**<br /><br />BSK is feeling good about making Denny go to work, but I&#039;m sure scheduling won&#039;t benefit them any against the commish this week. ;)&nbsp; In other news, BSK probably SHOULD win this I think, but just barely.&nbsp; Then again, if Rott goes into &quot;omg I never miss mode&quot; then it&#039;s a different story.&nbsp; Gyross is pretty capable as a replacement to me, so Ralph will ride him to victory then claim it he did all the work, in true line-seg fashion.<br /><br />SUC 2-1<br /><br />FLS - DMR<br /><br />Nero unretires, scores 10 flags, then pees in a cup and throws it in my face<br /><br />DMR 2-0', 'xx', 1);
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	(2069, 232, 12, 1278874610, 10, 2069, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'The mid-season draft was crap that was used in the second season because there were so many teams absolutely bombing. It was also used in the two subsequent seasons but was ABUSED by teams that would intentionally bomb out until the mid-season draft to get better players.<br /><br />IF these really great players like Chaindude or Chewy want to play (and as always these types of players are great for the league), why is it fair that they only be available to certain people in the middle of the season rather than for everybody to begin with?', 'xx', 1);
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	(2077, 232, 12, 1278910693, 130, 2077, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Goatface link=topic=232.msg2048#msg2048 date=1278801126]<br />I don&#039;t really see how any of this could be solved or worsened by franchising, as I would have run into the same problems.&nbsp; I agree that the issue is talented players leaving and not enough new players coming in.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Goat under the franchise system you&#039;d have gotten to franchise and pick 2nd (for your 3rd player) OR pick before everyone and then pick 2nd in the 1st real draft round. This is to say you would have gotten to pick 5 places higher than u did. It would have helped you I think. Lets say...You Hatred and...Mid...Mantis...Saber...Ladna. Certainly a tier up from Quiksilver.<br /><br />[quote author=Sabertooth link=topic=232.msg2049#msg2049 date=1278802649]<br />3. Nostar shut your face, and whats this BSK the front runner shit. Seriously everyone knows you can&#039;t win with just two players. Jen and Stall have got their hands full with Legion who needs chances to get better and Myself whose connection is like trying to jump off a moving train and go through a hoop the sizes of a quarter.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Actually I didn&#039;t think you guys were great. I still think you&#039;re not great. I do think that a lot of onlookers thought you guys were the strongest team though. And....YOU SHUT YOUR FACE!<br /><br />To be honest I agree with what you said mostly and think 3v3 promotes a narrow view of CTF and tends to keep IDL stagnant. Franchising doesn&#039;t exactly support players that refuse to play with some capatins. It supports more control from the playerbase in team building, but really you faggots just need to learn how to play. Like Fast and Ralph have pointed out, teams are equally as uneven franchise or no franchise. The best players win. Play to win or be okay with losing.<br /><br />[quote author=Solar_Flare link=topic=232.msg2050#msg2050 date=1278803877]<br />So I guess in short if newer players wanted to play and experience IDL, franchising would potentially ruin their chance of doing so. It is fun to talk and work together with people on a team and win some and lose some.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />This is the best and only valid argument I&#039;ve heard so far against franchising. I personally prefer an extremely stacked league of veteran players. That isn&#039;t the consensus and I&#039;m fine with that. I just have to voice my opinion that franchising kept more players playing and coming back to play again. If the league is focused on expanding rapidly, by all means do a draft system. As you&#039;re seeing the players doing well last season are doing similarly well. It&#039;s just a lower level of play all together, which I view as a bad thing.<br /><br />[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=232.msg2047#msg2047 date=1278798801]<br />Xenaero says something and posts a pick<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Shut up Xen. Try very hard not to blow it with Ralph picks map22 or map32 as his homefield. Practice, make white D and GRIND!<br /><br />God this is where Fast starts posting. How many wrong things can I quote.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=232.msg2055#msg2055 date=1278823056]<br />Says some things about grudges<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Stay on topic<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=232.msg2055#msg2055 date=1278823056]<br />Fast talks about how almost quitting twice in a row is justified<br />[/quote]<br /><br />You&#039;re a baby and a bad sport.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=232.msg2055#msg2055 date=1278823056]<br />Fast misses what Ladna was saying completely and references some thing that never happened about Whiteboy.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Wow the syphilis has rotted your brain!<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=232.msg2055#msg2055 date=1278823056]<br />Fast talks about something interested in replacing all captains<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I actually mentioned something to this affect last week to Ralph. Also I wasn&#039;t a captain last season. You&#039;re dumb.<br /><br />[quote author=nostar link=topic=232.msg2040#msg2040 date=1278748341]<br />Yes and we would have drafted Xray and won anyway. That is because Fast quitting our team wouldn&#039;t have tanked us Tai. Because Ralph had a player he choose and could rely on. Franchising stabilizing teams that way is a point I tried to make. You are very dense.[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=232.msg2055#msg2055 date=1278823056]<br />I like how you argue over things happening like they facts such as SPE being awesome with Fast, Mortal, Dew, and Nero or SUC winning no doubt with XRay.&nbsp; I think the fact Ralphis got XRay so quick and easy just shows how certain captains control and can work the system in their favor.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Work the system? You mean draft a player who is in #idl all the time from free agency? I really don&#039;t know what you think I do that Xen or Tai can&#039;t do. You might have a point if you were to talk about how Ralph picks all the season maps that he likes but drafting a free agent isn&#039;t not gaming the system. It&#039;s THE SYSTEM you queer.<br /><br />Also I&#039;m allowed to assert whatever I want. I&#039;ve been on two league teams with mortal, one with nero, one with dewww and one with you. I actually might be the BEST judge of how that team would work together, I could even predict how you&#039;re be a total pussy and quit on them, because you tried to do that on me last season! You are again, dense.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=232.msg2055#msg2055 date=1278823056]<br />Nostar you should try playing as a player sometime in the IDL again and see how you feel if a captain betrays you.&nbsp; Didn&#039;t that happen to you one season already?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I was a player my rookie season, and last season. 33% of my seasons have been as a player actually. You should try playing as a captain more and maybe accept some of the responsibility of making a team good or bad. <br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=232.msg2055#msg2055 date=1278823056]<br />Some captains and players have a lot of influence in the IDL.&nbsp; Tai is not one of them.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Talk more about this influence. I like clandestine bullshit. What incorrect thing do you think happened?<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=232.msg2055#msg2055 date=1278823056]<br />Fast talks about my luck in getting good players<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I have had as draft choices...Kandykid, Caboose, Nero, Gyrossman, Mortal, Mikehail, Mid and Collision on my team. I&#039;m very smart, very good and very little of it has to do with luck.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=232.msg2055#msg2055 date=1278823056]<br />Fast talks about how Jkist didn&#039;t try on SPE<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Statistically he had way better frag ratio and cap ratio than you. I mean if he wasn&#039;t trying then you blow ass maybe. I think he tried as much as anyone in IDL tries. It&#039;s actually a little asinine of you to accuse him of anything since you quit that team.<br /><br />On another note, EVERYONE plays better for me. I&#039;m a better captain than everyone and I have really good ideas about where people belong.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=232.msg2055#msg2055 date=1278823056]<br />Fast complains about playing on a team with White and Chain and somehow losing. Lots of crying.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />You should just play public. No grinding or strategy or positions. It&#039;s a blast. While you&#039;re at it, go fuck yourself. It&#039;s no one&#039;s fault but you&#039;re own you couldn&#039;t flag with chain against me and potent. Spawn D must have gotten you :)<br /><br />ON TO TAI!<br /><br />[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2057#msg2057 date=1278824716]<br />The only way I can see franchising helping Ghost pick a better 4th player than he did is if someone picked someone real crappy for a franchise, opening up the opportunity for said good 4th players to still be on the board when he needs that good insurance player on his side. [/quote]<br /><br />Okay, so instead of Josh last season, Denny had bones. You don&#039;t see how franchising would have helped him have a better and more self-sufficient team? You&#039;re a fucking moron.<br /><br />[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2057#msg2057 date=1278824716]<br />You call me dense, yet you fail to see the only reason I mentioned that is because you talked about looking at Fast bailing on the Euros and joining you and Ralphis as proof you play better with the people you&#039;re comfortable with.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I actually used that as an example of Ralph having someone (in myself) that he could rely on for a franchise when something didn&#039;t work out, like Fast being a total jew. It&#039;s an example of how, if fast was a franchise player (like with SPE) he ruined a team, whereas since Ralph choose a good and reliable franchise player, he was not given the opportunity to ruin a team. I will not further explain.<br /><br />[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2057#msg2057 date=1278824716]<br />So wait, were you trying to make a point, or did you just want to bash me cause I dare had the audacity to argue your points?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Argue away. You are very very very dumb and I like to take 30 minutes out of my day to keep the black man down.<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(2093, 232, 12, 1278978150, 73, 2093, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'Quiksilver', 'joshbryantmusic@gmail.com', '68.57.224.163', 1, 0, '', 'I agree with stallion in that regard especially. I don&#039;t think goat made the wrong decison here. Week 1 we practiced only 4 or so times, week 2 was a map we all were mostly weak at, week 3 was against a more skilled team, week 4 was just shocking to me (that we didn&#039;t win), and by week 5, we weren&#039;t the same team anymore, losing hatred, but also getting souler to play a match to give him a taste of the intensity. Getting drafted was great, and contrary to our record as a team, I know I have gotten a fuckle of experience playing at that the extreme pace that these matches are at. I really do hope no one holds DMR&#039;s record this season against goat, because he&#039;s alot more patient than some captains I know of...', 'xx', 1);
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	(2147, 136, 1, 1280554127, 16, 2147, 'Re: It''s coming', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '99.64.82.34', 1, 0, '', 'WHAT THE FU-*BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM*<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(2162, 243, 12, 1281060724, 147, 2162, 'Re: IDL SUMMER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.93.251.5', 1, 0, '', 'IDC<br /><br />Ralphis<br />Tai<br />Whiteboy<br />Hatred<br />Goatface<br /><br />WDC<br /><br />Jenova<br />Stallion<br />mikehail<br />Nostar<br />Mantis-X', 'xx', 1);
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	(2183, 246, 1, 1281217802, 2, 2183, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.36.4', 1, 0, '', 'blair rn was never any good why are you so fixated on it!!&nbsp; It is sort of sad to see tt starting to phase out of the public eye, I think there was public ctf dedicated there almost every night and it was usually full to the brim.&nbsp; I like the zd admins well enough but it makes no sense how sensitive they can be to suggestions or criticism.&nbsp; It is sometimes like dealing with children, you act reasonably and you only get kicking and screaming in return.&nbsp; I am not sure what most of us have done, beyond the cardinal sin of speaking with Ralphis (his ugly head has been known to crush many things) to earn the sort of distrust many of us are often met with.<br /><br />[quote=&quot;Lyfe&quot;]Well, you&#039;re not getting my support on two parts:<br />1- [b]untrusted f&#039;ing software.[/b]<br />2- private servers to avoid the ban list.<br />ZDS on the other hand..&nbsp; You should have just said something.[/quote]<br />[quote=&quot;Cybershark&quot;]<br />Oh, so longer intermissions are approved for inclusion in future iterations of ZD by the [b]high-and-mighty IDL governing body,[/b] but shorter ones are not?&nbsp; You&#039;ll have to pardon me for trying to see a bigger picture here and how making this dynamic could best suit everyone.<br />[/quote]<br />[quote=&quot;Kilgore&quot;]<br />The IDL issue: this is related to the ralphis issue. When that gentleman got banned from here, he [b]tried to come up with a zdaemon alternative so he could take our players away.[/b] That was an attempted resurrection of csdoom (renamed to odamex). He soon realized how much work it is to make and maintain a doom port, so this was abandoned. His next attempt was a league running on private servers so ralphis can play on it and also &quot;stick it to zdaemon&quot; (by taking zdaemon players out of public servers). That league was IDL. So.... what&#039;s the argument? support a league run by ralphis and whose purpose is to &quot;stick it to zdaemon&quot; ? are we crazy here? If you guys want zdaemon to support a league (any league), make sure it doesn&#039;t run on private servers; if it does, then [b]you&#039;re not doing zdaemon any favor and zdaemon will reciprocate.[/b] <br />Ladna and his IRC bot: even if we wanted to support the IDL [b](which we don&#039;t)[/b], there is no way we&#039;d let random people run bots on our chat server: there was a reason we went to the trouble of making our own chat client and our own server, and that was to control what sort of software runs in there.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I am too lazy to find some others I have seen.&nbsp; Many intentions by the IDL are seen as negative or counter-productive for reasons I do not quite understand.&nbsp; As Ladna said already, they dump lots of time and money into this hobby of theirs, I can fully understand why he doesn&#039;t want to support Zdaemon any longer.&nbsp; Perhaps it is too much to think children can grow up in 4-5 years and become reasonable adults, there is no forgiveness here.&nbsp; Note that these posts are just reactions to posts by people involved with the IDL.&nbsp; Some of these people (cybershark I believe) have moved past their initial feelings when more fully exposed to us, but why is this even the case?<br /><br />Ultimately it would be nice to see something come of this, but that does not seem possible.&nbsp; The ruts are nearly deep enough that we cannot see the other any longer.&nbsp; Sometimes it seems as if anything suggested by people associated with the IDL is opposed simply to oppose the IDL.&nbsp; Humanbones is no longer active within either realm (to the best of my knowledge) and it seems the only slight connection we had to Zdaemon has been cut.<br /><br />Hopefully our rut leads somewhere cool, like Atlantis, or Albania.&nbsp; Also I plan to turn the lights off at the first possible chance and renact the Mars War for the rest of eternity!&nbsp; I am going to stick by Blair though, that guy is a digging machine.&nbsp; I am not really sure where I am going with this because all I can think about is light switches now so goodbye.<br /><br />[quote=&quot;Oath&quot;]<br />ATTENTION EVERYBODY: Do NOT break your wrist or you&#039;ll get kicked from BTK.<br />[/quote]<br />everybody look at what a scumbag blair is, he kicked poor oath off btk<br /><br />P.S.&nbsp; k5myh was and is the best TDM team ever, lets start a tdm league god I have been waiting so long.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3110, 352, 14, 1293396243, 15, 3110, 'Re: ALERT: OFFICIAL WINTER 2011 IDL-R SCHEDULE RELEASE', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.94.122', 1, 1293396359, 'ItalianStallion', 'Word.&nbsp; Finding a team to prac with is really tough at times.&nbsp; I like your idea.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3923, 406, 14, 1302669212, 8, 3923, 'Re: Regular Season Discussion', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '209.239.209.105', 1, 0, '', 'Yes, I&#039;m aware of that. He was on my team. I&#039;m saying he has certainly gotten more recognition now.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4772, 499, 1, 1316363988, 213, 4772, 'Re: North America Vs Europe', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '97.92.40.97', 1, 0, '', 'rofl<br /><br />never<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />well, we&#039;ll see', 'xx', 1);
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	(3115, 354, 1, 1293419252, 49, 3115, 'Re: Effective Immediately ', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '216.164.140.107', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Hatred link=topic=354.msg3105#msg3105 date=1293252290]If mike loses, he has to take a picture of his kitchen and reveal it to the world.[/quote]i like this idea', 'xx', 1);
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	(1903, 223, 12, 1275092075, 75, 1903, 'Re: Post Draft Discussion', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.179.159', 1, 0, '', 'xen, sorry to burst your bubble, but you apparently didn&#039;t realize who you are drafting when you picked me. you are going to be an efficient machiavelli supercaptain machine or i will rape your eyesockets. escape is not an option. win that cup or i kill your crotch proto-babies with nuclear weapons.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1904, 223, 12, 1275101070, 19, 1904, 'Re: Post Draft Discussion', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '69.68.240.173', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=dew link=topic=223.msg1903#msg1903 date=1275092075]<br />xen, sorry to burst your bubble, but you apparently didn&#039;t realize who you are drafting when you picked me. you are going to be an efficient machiavelli supercaptain machine or i will rape your eyesockets. escape is not an option. win that cup or i kill your crotch proto-babies with nuclear weapons.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />omg', 'xx', 1);
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	(1906, 223, 12, 1275218962, 73, 1906, 'Re: Post Draft Discussion', 'Quiksilver', 'joshbryantmusic@gmail.com', '68.57.224.163', 1, 0, '', 'lol Proto Babies.<br /><br />So after the skirmish last night &gt;DMR&lt; has some planning to do. GG&#039;s to FLS. Hopefully we gauged you all correctly so when we&#039;ve got better fluidity, we&#039;ll already know where you&#039;re weak links are. lol jk.<br /><br />We just wanna beat nostar and co.', 'xx', 1);
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	(7323, 713, 17, 1345447588, 216, 7323, 'Re: The Return of... The IDL Board!', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '174.92.52.24', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=713.msg7295#msg7295 date=1345305592]<br />[quote author=Solar_Flare link=topic=713.msg7260#msg7260 date=1344991949]<br />Stallion still cares about doom? Shocker, I thought League took his soul for good.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Just because I&#039;m a boss at LoL, does that mean I don&#039;t care about Doom?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Yes.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2020, 228, 12, 1278619059, 3, 2020, 'Re: Week 4 (Jun 28 - Jul 4) : ZDECTF05 (MAP05) - Discussion and Results', 'Joshsmith', 'tonihawker666@yahoo.com', '99.9.212.71', 1, 0, '', 'http://www.speedyshare.com/files/23305042/joshdemoweek4map05.zip', 'xx', 1);
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	(2041, 232, 12, 1278771508, 158, 2041, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '173.206.48.235', 1, 1278771623, 'Jenova', 'I haven&#039;t really had a chance to post around these forums (I&#039;m lazy) but I think that removing franchises was a superb decision.<br /><br />Franchises gave potential opportunity to have phenomenally skilled players all reside on one team. I&#039;m unsure exactly how draft order is decided (presumably not by skill) but simply put this allows for stacked teams. It would essentially enable one captain to obtain their two top picks with little interference. You could have a really good captain such as Nostar or Ralphis franchise someone like whiteboy, and still be eligible for a high ranking pick. This doesn&#039;t exactly favour new IDL captains, or captains who have a &quot;bad record&quot; with previous seasons. I&#039;m almost positive that nobody would have actually wanted to franchise with me, which would result in the same captains getting the same good players over and over.<br /><br />I&#039;m not saying that it&#039;s a bad feature, franchising gives a lot to look forward to. You can play on a team with your friend, or a dependent player who you know will show up.<br /><br />I don&#039;t think the shitty team argument is even valid this season, DMR just had a bad captain with abysmal picks (Quicksilver?). As far as I see, EBL has a lot of potential to do good, but for god knows what reason they aren&#039;t.<br /><br />Denny-less team or not, we still won. It doesn&#039;t matter who plays, yes I agree, we did do pretty shitty (which especially showed in our game), but you also have to consider that we did play with Legion our first game (no offense to Legion). I&#039;m also willing to bet we will win our rematch with SPE this week, whether Denny plays or not.<br /><br />Also, I agree with Ladna, a challenge is always fun. Having to actually practice to beat another team is fun, I won&#039;t disagree, but when you constantly lose every game that &quot;fun&quot; starts to deteriorate.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2070, 232, 12, 1278878770, 73, 2070, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'Quiksilver', 'joshbryantmusic@gmail.com', '68.57.224.163', 1, 0, '', 'I think the stats should stay around even after this season, because I want to show that I&#039;m still worth drafting, no matter how DMR finishes the season.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2078, 232, 12, 1278914050, 7, 2078, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'Xenaero already won this thread, but I&#039;ll go down the line anyway.<br /><br />- Franchising is stale.<br /><br />Nope.&nbsp; It let exactly 1 team stay together.&nbsp; Actually, I take that back.&nbsp; Franchising didn&#039;t have anything to do with it, Nero offloading his players just to screw Fast did.&nbsp; So hooray!&nbsp; Issue solved, franchising is great!<br /><br />- Franchising creates super teams.<br /><br />Nope.&nbsp; Slimming the league down to 8 teams creates super teams.&nbsp; We&#039;ll probably do 10 teams next season.&nbsp; I wanted to do 10 teams this season, but whenever I take a break nobody does shit, so it didn&#039;t get done.&nbsp; Sorry.<br /><br />- 3v3 sucks.<br /><br />I agree.&nbsp; If we did 5 player teams we could keep 8 teams too, same difference.<br /><br />- I could&#039;ve remained the captain of FLS.<br /><br />Nope.&nbsp; I don&#039;t owe you faggots anything.&nbsp; When I agreed to captain it was under a very specific set of rules and conditions.&nbsp; I actually got jewed out of 1st pick, but that was alright.&nbsp; Then I did real well in the regular season (because I&#039;m awesome), and got a shitty pick... but I figured, &quot;hey, I can still franchise someone&quot;.&nbsp; Then, after it&#039;s way too late for me to do anything about it and I&#039;m not even around, the board decides to repeal franchising.&nbsp; Awesome, I quit.&nbsp; I refused to have the kind of season Goat&#039;s having now, because that wouldn&#039;t be fun for me.&nbsp; Yeah he&#039;s a bigger man than me, but that&#039;s true for all you faggots too.<br /><br />- MSD would solve anything.<br /><br />Nope.&nbsp; It sucks.<br /><br />- IDL excludes players at all.<br /><br />Nope.&nbsp; The board actually doesn&#039;t dis-invite anyone.&nbsp; Well that&#039;s not true, but over 3 seasons there&#039;s been like, 3 people we specifically didn&#039;t invite.&nbsp; So I mean, sure, we didn&#039;t invite Caboose (who throws games), and yeah we didn&#039;t invite... uh I can&#039;t think of anyone else.&nbsp; So there.&nbsp; Shit, we even invited Dragan back after 7 years of exile.&nbsp; What do you want from us?<br /><br />- Franchising couldn&#039;t have fixed this season, or, all the players this season blow.<br /><br />Franchising means I was the captain of FLS, and LB, Jenova and someone else would split up DMR/BSK/BBC.&nbsp; I would&#039;ve franchised Nostar, and the league would be less stupid.&nbsp; SUC would finally have a reasonable divisional rival in DMR, the WDC would be a little less ridiculous, EBL and DMR wouldn&#039;t have the crappiest 3rds (sorry dew I don&#039;t think you&#039;re crappy but there&#039;s a lot of water between you and us), things would be fine.&nbsp; This is obvious to me, but I&#039;m capable of understanding extremely simple things like the franchising system - mostly because it&#039;s written down on the goddamn website and we&#039;ve been doing it for 3 fucking seasons.&nbsp; Holy shit.<br /><br />And it doesn&#039;t matter if there&#039;s a bunch of rookies this season.&nbsp; We&#039;re all playing with the same players.&nbsp; It&#039;s not like some teams have rookies or players who don&#039;t show up and some don&#039;t.&nbsp; BBC can barely get 3 players on, the internet hates my team, Tai has a couple of rookie-ish players, EBL had a pinger for a while, etc. etc.&nbsp; DMR failed because there was no franchising system to help them get picks to make up for their captain&#039;s admitted lack of skill, EBL failed because there was no franchising system to help them get picks to make up for their captain&#039;s lack of skill.&nbsp; Fortunately DMR&#039;s loss was EBL&#039;s gain, but still.<br /><br />(Also I&#039;m in the same position as Xen and Goat, that&#039;s why I stepped down as captain.&nbsp; Don&#039;t get all mad at me.)<br /><br />- This stuff matters.<br /><br />Nah, it was OK until everyone brought their own personal shit into this thread.&nbsp; Really this season isn&#039;t a big deal, Goat&#039;s being a man about his team and having fun, while saving EBL&#039;s season in the process.&nbsp; I was just making the point that franchising would&#039;ve really, really helped the IDC, but you guys had to whine a bunch about stuff.&nbsp; Well OK, here we are, I&#039;m still right and you guys are still bickering.&nbsp; Thank God I&#039;m in charge.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2085, 232, 12, 1278949123, 2, 2086, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.36.4', 1, 1278950892, 'mikefails', '[quote author=LordBritish link=topic=232.msg2080#msg2080 date=1278914784]<br />[quote author=Ladna link=topic=232.msg2078#msg2078 date=1278914050] uh I can&#039;t think of anyone else.&nbsp; So there.&nbsp; <br />[/quote]<br /><br />Me last year.&nbsp; I signed up, was nothing but active, and kicked a lot of ass.&nbsp; Sure I got in eventually, but I was real pissed.&nbsp; So yeah you guys screwed up there.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I asked you last season if you were interested in playing and your response was basically, no I am just going to quit anyways.&nbsp; Seeing as how you had quit maybe 4 or 5 times in the past and had always said something similar to that, it seemed like a safe bet to assume you meant it again!&nbsp; LittleBoy who cried wolf!&nbsp; It is nice that you have stayed this time though, we can only guess for how long before you decide to punish us again by leaving&nbsp; :&#039;(<br /><br />lmao vv', 'xx', 1);
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	(3111, 352, 14, 1293396823, 73, 3111, 'Re: ALERT: OFFICIAL WINTER 2011 IDL-R SCHEDULE RELEASE', 'Quiksilver', 'joshbryantmusic@gmail.com', '99.71.124.161', 1, 0, '', 'yea ythats a pretty nifty idea. and hey, caps can maybe scout &quot;hands on&quot;. As in they get to challenge that IDL-R team and see its talent in action face to face.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3230, 370, 14, 1294855666, 130, 3230, 'Re: Comments during matches...', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'Yeah if you see anyone giving away game changing info let me know. I love to ban! Things that fall under this category would be:<br /><br />&quot;He&#039;s still in the base!&quot;<br />&quot;He ran out the left side&quot;<br />&quot;Stop camping the flag TAI D:&quot;<br />&quot;He&#039;s rj&#039;d up&quot;<br /><br />Interestingly enough I&#039;ve heard all of this stuff during IDL games. It&#039;s not common at all but it happens. My purview is that while playing an IDL game I rarely have time to read the stuff specs are saying anyway. What is more likely happening is spectators being on TS with players and helping them with positions in that way.<br /><br />[quote author=dew link=topic=370.msg3228#msg3228 date=1294849013]<br />kickban the snitch and let tai have a private yoga lesson with him.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Absolutely disgusting.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3924, 420, 1, 1302710639, 15, 3924, 'Re: Seeking New Commissioner ', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.90.44', 1, 0, '', 'InB4 some ns fag gets commissioner and drives everyone from the league.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1907, 219, 1, 1275260479, 0, 1907, 'Re: Welcome to the Wild West', 'Fastidious', '', '112.200.246.8', 1, 0, '', 'Took bunch of 1080P video of a pool party but probably be a bit before I get it edited and uploaded.&nbsp;  ;D', 'xx', 1);
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	(8526, 845, 28, 1361687046, 2303, 8526, 'Odamex damage system compared to ZD', 'Watermelon', 'watermelonst@hotmail.com', '64.228.140.192', 1, 1361687858, 'Watermelon', 'Hello there,<br /><br />I&#039;ve been doing some investigation because I believe that there definitely is a damage issue between odamex, and zandronum/ZD. Now in the data I will show you, I will let you decide for yourself, but I will present my thoughts at the end.<br />Before I begin with the data presentation, I personally believe that odamex (once it fixes the door issue in map03 and the lifts, which dr_sean is more than capable of), I think odamex has the best unlagged. It always reconciles for me properly where as Zandronum is okay and ZD it is a coin flip in 1.09 :(<br /><br /><br />How we did this is in king1, one of us would stand in the corner to the right of the rocket jail cell down on the ground, and the other on the shell box under the pillar near the ssg. Both players ensured they were in the corner and the firing person would aim at the center of the player sprite. From there one shot was taken and that data was recorded, and then the person was killed with another shot (or more if need be) and these were not taken into account. All the data points are from first shots with the player being 100 HP only. The rest was just tallying it and putting it into excel.<br />This is where we stood for graphical reference:<br />[img]http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9400/king1distance.png[/img]<br /><br /><br /><br />The results:<br />It took usually two-shot kills to kill a person.<br />Out of 102 shots on odamex and ZD, the following stats were observed:<br /><br />ZD statistics:<br />- One shot kills: 12<br />- Three shot kills: 0<br />- Four shot kills: 0<br /><br />Oda statistics:<br />- One shot kills: 3<br />- Three shot kills: 22<br />- Four shot kills: 1<br /><br />[img]http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8657/odavszd.png[/img]<br />IF IMAGE IS CUT OFF, VIEW IT HERE:<br />http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8657/odavszd.png<br /><br />My thoughts:<br />So far the graph isn&#039;t easy to read, but the average damage between both SSG&#039;s was 5 damage higher on ZD. The standard deviations were around the same (20ish ZD vs 21ish on oda). The minimum damage on ZD was 20 (indicating that at worst 2 pellets always hit) and the minimum damage on oda was 5 (indicating that at worst, 1 pellet hit).<br />This data can be found in the excel file I will attach.<br /><br />What does this mean?<br />It appears that the odamex SSG for some reason hits way less than the ZD ssg. ZDaemon did not require 3 shots to kill someone, or even four. This indicates that the damage being handed out by odamex is somehow less. Just by looking at the numbers, ZD has way more one shot kills, and oda has so much more three and even four (!) shot kills. That means at that distance, it took me four shots with the ssg to kill someone. That means the average damage over those four shots was 25 in a row.<br /><br />What could this be? Is there some odd kind of spread? Is the damage not being handled properly? Is there a dropped shot?<br />I don&#039;t know, but I feel that this will hopefully bring to light that there is something different between ZD and Odamex. This could possibly be something inside their engine that we don&#039;t know about. The next test will involve zandronum since it&#039;s open source and uses the old random table.<br /><br /><br /><br />Despite the findings here, Odamex is a great port and I feel that with some discussion and direction we may be able to continue to raise the standard with Odamex. It&#039;s unlagged is unrivaled by anyone at the moment.<br /><br /><br />DATA:<br />- Up to date with graphs and all<br />http://dl.dropbox.com/u/87656485/ZDvsOda.xlsx<br /><br />- Only raw data for older comps<br />http://dl.dropbox.com/u/87656485/ZDvsOdaCompat.xls<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />EDIT: I typed 15 twice in the graph, it should be 20 because the 2nd one doesnt increase by 5. My bad.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4187, 447, 18, 1308381890, 147, 4187, 'Re: Week 2 (Jun 13 - Jun 19) : CC11: Isolation (MAP 28) - Discussion and Results', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.35.212', 1, 0, '', 'xen i want you to abyss forever', 'xx', 1);
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	(6314, 619, 20, 1330375183, 214, 6314, 'yo yo', 'RustInPeace', 'sindeception@yahoo.com', '70.241.25.82', 1, 0, '', 'Now that week 9 is around the corner and the playoff picture is more or less complete, aside from the WDC East, let us all now take a moment and reflect on why this season was so fucking bad. Remember, this isn&#039;t the ZDaemon Forums where you have nazis running around deleting and censoring posts and &#039;accidentally&#039; deleting topics. Our nazis will probably only edit posts and often times those posts are mainly Jenova&#039;s. So let&#039;s go over some core issues that have pissed off people this season.<br /><br />*The Board<br />*Lackluster and bad maps<br />*Players&#039; needs and wants falling on deaf ears<br />*Board members being complete dipshits on par with zd admins/staff<br />*Rules being changed mid-season<br />*Total Trash<br />*Players nearly sneaking away with demo infractions<br />*1000 versions of idl2012.wad<br />*Map32<br />*The Board<br />*Humanbones (lol&nbsp; :P)<br /><br />This might be the last season for a lot of players and it may even be the last season of the IDL depending on certain factors (nutshell: some[s]one[/s] masochist who wants to clean up this mess). Therefore it&#039;s in the best interest of everyone to speak up and share what is on their minds. For those of you who are hesitant to say anything, here are a few key factors to consider:<br /><br />1. All the above points are the board&#039;s fault<br />2. They have no feelings and are heartless fucks<br />3. Offensive statements won&#039;t affect them<br />4. They deserve it<br /><br />Since I have bitched so much this season I&#039;m rather worn out at this point. So, I won&#039;t go into many details with my personal reasons unless necessary. Let&#039;s get started!<br /><br />Right off the bat it is clear that this season&#039;s schedule was so fucking lackluster and painful. Weeks 1-4 were pretty tough to play through but it could have been worse. In fact we have seen how much worse it could have been with weeks 5-9. First you have 3 old ass shitty zd maps, which no one wants to play, that belong in pub and next week we get optically raped. Of course the reason why we will get raped is because 4/5 of the board said so. This brings us to the next point of players getting shit on by the board. Xenaero made a topic polling players what they preferred: map28 2 or 6 spawns, map32 original or Ralphis&#039; textures. Even though the poll results favored 2 spawn 28 and Ralphis&#039; textures, we got 6 spawns and mspaint textures. Yes I&#039;ve heard the argument about how the poll only had a small amount of participants which in no way reflects the majority of the IDL. However if you douchebags were as smart as you claim you are, you would have realized that you were never going to get a majority opinion no matter what. So what were you guys trying to do? Piss us off by making us believe our views mattered? Because you sure did!<br /><br />Interestingly enough Ralphis, who is nothing more than a captain officially, made an idl wad that contained what the players wanted. Plus, his wad didn&#039;t destroy map04 and it was the first version to include past MasterBowl maps (mb01-10). Of course, this wad contained changes that the board didn&#039;t vote in favor of and thus his wad lives on only in AlexMax&#039;s hd as idl2012-.wad. Why was this wad shunned? Well, originally Ralph was told to include the infamous &#039;Pissed off Libraries&#039; map and then some time later he was told to remove it in favor of that shitty proctf map no one wants to play and he was also instructed to make the map28 and 32 changes. Also it&#039;s worth mentioning that the proctf map (which doesn&#039;t work on zd at all in its original state) was properly play tested on Skulltag! rofl, I guess we could play test some ZDoom Wars map and it&#039;ll be IDL ready! The removal of map07 and map30 and possibly map32 of the 2011 wad was also dumb. I personally don&#039;t give a shit about old 32, but 07 and 30 were [u]good for the IDL[/u]. However tried and true maps like those two were [u]removed[/u] for jokes like that shitty Christmas map and the stupid rad suit/hidden sphere map. Oh wells, let&#039;s move on.<br /><br />We have board members who choose to act like dipshits instead of carrying themselves with some sort of prestige (considering they are the ones who determine the damn rules). You have smug fuckers who disrespect captains and players by trivializing them (Ralph will chime in). You know, by pissing off your player&nbsp; base, you&#039;re definitely going to have a high retention rate! I&#039;m not talking about myself, but rather others who have stated they have no desire to play when board members want to act like dipshits (no I&#039;m not going to look for logs fuck you). I&#039;ll list a few events and I hope the players involved will chime in with more details as well as bring up their own examples.<br /><br />Jenova getting banned from TT<br /><br />Mikehail not leaving SUC&#039;s practice session<br /><br />Xenaero single-handedly destroying MAD&#039;s season (Maybe only applies to DoomGuy lol D: )<br /><br />Dew abusing rcon during a priv session and kicking Tai for no appropriate reason<br /><br />I&#039;ll elaborate a bit more on the dew matter since I was there. Dew rages because he doesn&#039;t get picked and the players who were chosen over him are labeled as shitty players by him. Dew continues to berate Tai for not picking him and calls him a shitty captain etc. Tai defends himself and gets booted out of the server. Not only is priv being stalled, but we are wasting time because deww cannot realize that, A) he&#039;s not that good, B) no one wants to play or put up with him. Yes, this is good example of how a board member should act; abuse power, hinder priv and act like a complete fucktard.<br /><br />Understand, when you guys piss us off for no reason you are inspiring us to NOT cap and to NOT sign up and to NOT play in your league. If you chase away all of the players that give a shit, you will be stuck with basically nothing. Sure there will be an influx of players from st and zd. Yeah, enjoy a league dominated by Mexicans, capo and boobear. This season was so hyped and a lot of people were looking forward to playing in it. We had new rules, new maps from the mapping contest (player involvement), new team names, new site, and a new breath of fresh air. However, the main single force behind the destruction of what this season should have been is simply: the board. You guys really and truly dropped the ball this season and you cannot deny it. Vast amounts of players are saying, &quot;This is the worst season ever&quot; or &quot;this is the last season ever&quot;. You were spoon fed an outline for arguably the best season in the history of IDL. But you blew it. You pissed off your players and if there&#039;s no more IDL after this season, it&#039;s going to be your faults. So in closing, fuck you.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1908, 219, 1, 1275266395, 35, 1908, 'Re: Welcome to the Wild West', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.224.57.138', 1, 0, '', 'post the picture of the philopino escort fast', 'xx', 1);
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	(3521, 388, 14, 1297812474, 15, 3521, 'Re: Pre-Pre-Post-Season Predictions Predictions', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.91.231', 1, 0, '', 'Whoever is coming out of the WDC is winning it.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2021, 233, 12, 1278626197, 75, 2021, 'Re: Week 5 (Jul 5 - Jul 12) : ZDECTF2-01 (MAP20) - Discussion and Results', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.179.159', 1, 0, '', 'the zde series is mind boggling. the first edition had just two playable maps out of ten - map01 and map03. then the second edition had three good maps. map03, map17 and map19. the brighter minds among you already noticed the lack of map01 in that sadly short selection from 20 fucking maps. the final joke is zde3, where 17 was removed, so there&#039;s only two maps out of 30 that are any good. and let&#039;s not forget 19&#039;s item/spawn placement was hacked by xsnake to make it less good. amazing effort.<br /><br />my mind cannot grasp the entirety of this absurd situation - the idiotic, flawed, choked version of map01 AND the megaretarded zdctf01 unballanced clone that is map07 BOTH got into the idl wad AND into playlist already, even the silly unfinished campfest aka map05 was used, while the only truly great non-mutilated map from the whole thirty got left out. is this some insane conspiracy? disgusting.<br /><br />PREDICTIONS:<br />everyone eats a dick and laughs like a retard while dying 1000000times in the central trench. the world implodes to avoid such unheard of faggotry and all matches get forfeited 0-0.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2131, 226, 12, 1279732284, 49, 2131, 'Re: IDEA: Tiebreaker Rule Change', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '24.154.81.230', 1, 0, '', '[size=1][font=courier]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  &#039;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; .```.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &#039;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 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	(2042, 232, 12, 1278774175, 2, 2042, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.36.4', 1, 1278774473, 'mikefails', '[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2038#msg2038 date=1278744924]<br />So franchising prevented mike from suddenly disappearing for god knows what come our IDC Championship match?&nbsp; Er...no offense to mike, but no it didn&#039;t. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />Okay, well basically what happened here is the entire day SUC was saying they couldn&#039;t play at the arranged time which was Sunday at 7 or something?&nbsp; I spoke to Tai and our entire team and spoke to SUC and we pretty much all agreed Monday was fine for both teams and then I had other things to do that night.&nbsp; 20 minutes before the game started, SUC came on and said the game was on because their player actually showed up, even though we agreed to play on Monday<br /><br />I am not too upset about that, ultimately Tai made some mistakes that season picking poor maps for oath and myself to play and generally as a team we did poorly.&nbsp; But I had things to attend to and we did reschedule the match with both teams, I am still sort of confused as to why it was still played Sunday after we agreed to Monday.&nbsp; I can&#039;t really blame SUC, they saw an opening and seized it, that is one of the few maps I am relatively good at and Oath/Tai/Dev barely got in 1-2 practice games that week.&nbsp; It was pretty stupid but in the past now as I am concerned.<br /><br />[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2038#msg2038 date=1278744924]<br />And BSK...you say they have 3 wins; you mean 3 wins and a tie. That&#039;s not terrible in 5 weeks, no matter how you try to downplay how they got them. I mean, everyone&#039;s gotta play DMR eventually, you know. And I already told you about Shadow.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />BSK was the leagues front runner I felt like, we came into week 3 and had a pretty quick 2 round game due to what I think was a poor positioning arrangement.&nbsp; Not something you really expect from the &quot;top&quot; team , I think jenny is still getting into it and they will continue to improve as the season goes on.&nbsp; Certainly 3-1-1 is not bad, but did anybody expect them to do worse than 5-0??<br /><br />[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2038#msg2038 date=1278744924]<br />If Rus having a life means he&#039;s only showing up intermittenly, I may have to sign up for a life. Er...LB sure showed up in prac against you on Map20! 8 ) It seems FLS merely changed hands as far as captain as opposed to &quot;lose&quot; it. Unless they just suck for the rest of the season, I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s a big deal. It&#039;s not like they traded someone over night like some teams did. Same for Ladna taking a week off; assuming it was vacation, god forbid someone does that in the summer. I mean, are you suggesting he doesn&#039;t take this week off if franchising was in place?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />There isn&#039;t much you can do.&nbsp; The only reason BBC has managed to cope is because we have Mid and Collision, two pretty awesome players who are generally around when the other isn&#039;t.&nbsp; Mid has probably taken 3 vacations so far this season and we have managed to still win because Collision is great and we do not have to use a player like Fluffles or something.&nbsp; I love fluffs but I am not going to lie and say he can compete at this level in that capacity.&nbsp; Really you are all dumb for not picking Collision since he is better than most players in the league and was stigmatized by Ralphis and Xenaero mostly.&nbsp; Another extremely underrated pick was X-Ray, I think he went late(?) second round when he should have possibly been early second round or even late first round.<br /><br />FLS is in a tough problem because they need their top 3 to have anything going on.&nbsp; If any one of those 3 players can&#039;t handle it, FLS bombs.&nbsp; The fourth isn&#039;t smart enough or good enough to fill the others shoes because its someone inexperienced or just not that good.&nbsp; Meanwhile Rus is relatively inexperienced I feel still, and Lordbritish is only really good on a handful of maps that suit his style.&nbsp; Poor luck of the draw I guess, I still think FLS is a great team, LBs maneuver, (I will call it the LB from now on) of getting Rus to captain is an exciting prospect, we will see if he sticks around.&nbsp; Also they did trade Wraithverge for Tony almost immediately, maybe you didn&#039;t notice or just didn&#039;t care since it was the 4th player.<br /><br />[quote author=Jenova link=topic=232.msg2041#msg2041 date=1278771508]<br />Franchises gave potential opportunity to have phenomenally skilled players all reside on one team. I&#039;m unsure exactly how draft order is decided (presumably not by skill) but simply put this allows for stacked teams. It would essentially enable one captain to obtain their two top picks with little interference. You could have a really good captain such as Nostar or Ralphis franchise someone like whiteboy, and still be eligible for a high ranking pick. This doesn&#039;t exactly favour new IDL captains, or captains who have a &quot;bad record&quot; with previous seasons. I&#039;m almost positive that nobody would have actually wanted to franchise with me, which would result in the same captains getting the same good players over and over.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I have mostly been pretty against franchising since the second or third season.&nbsp; It is a neat idea but ultimately I think its a little too competitive and/or gay when you couple that with Jkist&#039;s selective playing.&nbsp; We can all just halfass IDL unless we get on the one team we like/think has the best chance of winning but that just means you are a bunch of pussies.&nbsp; I do not think franchising was broken, I think it was players abusing it combined with the staleness that made it something to be removed.&nbsp; Jkist will tell you he tried on SPE before being traded to SUC but it sounds like a bunch of baloney to me, he mostly refused to practice saying he was too busy, or avoiding SPE practice to go play with SUC instead.&nbsp; He showed up and played for games, but I doubt he really tried to his potential like on SUC.<br /><br />If that is what it comes down to, I would much rather trade a few players who are too selfish to play with a different team for some less great but more exciting games.&nbsp; FLS/BBC and BSK/SUC were probably the best games I have seen/played in all IDL.&nbsp; I enjoy this so far, you have one poor team with Goatface, who made some mistakes but learned a lesson.&nbsp; You have about 7 other competitive teams now who could all seriously change the rankings around.&nbsp; What is wrong here??&nbsp; Its not like I am afraid of SUC or something, you simply had 3 extremely good players on one team because one player played as well as a 4th instead of a second due to gayness.&nbsp; They are beatable of course, but do you really want to wait until a team of two firsts and a third manages to beat them?&nbsp; Sounds sort of boring to me, let them have their trophies and statistical wins, the only relatively equal team in terms of skill they managed to beat was DMR and look how close those games were, both with some controversy I might add :)&nbsp; If that is what the league wants then that is cool I guess, I am not interested in that sort of league is all, not a big loss.<br /><br />[quote author=Jenova link=topic=232.msg2041#msg2041 date=1278771508]<br />I&#039;m not saying that it&#039;s a bad feature, franchising gives a lot to look forward to. You can play on a team with your friend, or a dependent player who you know will show up.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I would agree basically, it was a more competitive IDL, but something in my mind that couldn&#039;t last.&nbsp; To excel IDL needs to bring in more new players and more talents and combine them all, rather then condensing its talents and shutting its doors to new players or becoming something that is far too competitive for newer players to have a chance.&nbsp; You just can&#039;t bring Souler into franchise level IDL play.&nbsp; These new players need to play, even if they lose, they aren&#039;t going to stick around to warm our benches (except a few notables like Killemall, Gayrossman :), other assorted IW dudes)&nbsp; The idea is interesting but probably needs some more refinement to really work as well as intended.&nbsp; Ultimately it is the captains fault for failing, but should we cover our eyes and say one day it will be better or should we adapt the league to the current circumstances and try to promote growth and change?', 'xx', 1);
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	(2071, 232, 12, 1278882923, 147, 2071, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.93.251.5', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ralphis link=topic=232.msg2069#msg2069 date=1278874610]<br />It was also used in the two subsequent seasons but was ABUSED by teams that would intentionally bomb out until the mid-season draft to get better players.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Seconded.&nbsp; Took the words right out of my mouth.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2079, 232, 12, 1278914472, 163, 2079, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '72.240.150.213', 1, 0, '', 'ragepost', 'xx', 1);
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	(2081, 235, 12, 1278915264, 163, 2081, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 13 - Jul 20) : ZDCTF01 (MAP01) - Discussion and Results', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '72.240.150.213', 1, 1278916156, 'Hatred', 'Super Chargers vs Doom Raiders.<br /><br />I think if there was ever a map for Quik to showcase his ability, this map would be the proper place to do it. Along Goat, who is an intelligent runner and knows how to get his with good support from mid, I can see DMR surprising a lot of people here. I look for them to play really aggressive and take a lot of risks such as periodically going all O to produce some captures. In the end though, I&#039;m afraid SUC is simply too much.<br /><br />SUC wins 2-0. (5-3, 5-1)<br /><br />Brokeback Cowboys vs Killingbrowns<br /><br />Star&#039;s D is simply too good here and I can&#039;t see anybody producing a ton of flags against him with Mid in the mid. Though Tai and Josh can be explosive here, I just don&#039;t think the inexperienced strangle or x-ray will be able to produce against this defense.<br /><br />BBC 2-0 (5-2, 5-0)<br /><br />BSK vs SPE<br /><br />You could literally break this down to micro fractions in terms of analysis and still have absolutely no clue. I honestly don&#039;t know who will win this and who gets the edge on either side because of the style of play this map offers. I could easily see this being a draw, so that&#039;s what I&#039;ll go with.<br /><br />Tie (1-1, 4-4, 2-2)<br /><br />EBL vs FLS<br /><br />LB will be amped for this game. So, he is going to dawn his Brutus Buckeye costume and run out there like crazy. However, with Tony being a resident of Michigan he will dawn his shitty wolverine gear and charge LB. These two will fight to the death, Ladna will ragequit and Rus will pose naked with me. All-the-while, white will be walking in and out with flags while xen masturbates to the sight of Rus and I taking nude photos together. <br /><br />EBL and FLS cause criminal charges to be brought against Ralphis such as indecent exposure, conspiracy to entice a riot and child pornography. This will put Ralphis behind bars for 10 years and the IDL will ultimately fall apart soonafter, leaving 2 dead doomers in LB and tony, a gay marriage with rus and I, white will be drunk at some concert and xen will stalk us. Ladna will search out Nostar, get an apartment with him and will ultimately file for divorce after nostar writes a book called &quot;why im so great&quot; which absolutely bombs resulting in Ladna not wanting to be involved in star&#039;s finical debt. Dewww, being the much smarter European will foresee this and find Gyross and they will all-but disappear from the IDL scene, occasionally being spotted in Czech servers saying some weird shit like &quot;Zadejte nebo adresa str&#225;nky CZECH 10MS PING O TOP.&quot; <br /><br /> <br /><br /> ', 'xx', 1);
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	(2086, 232, 12, 1278950744, 8, 2086, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '173.48.68.128', 1, 0, '', 'Ladna, if you had a problem with repealing franchising, you probably should have showed up to vote. Just saying!', 'xx', 1);
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	(2148, 240, 12, 1280554537, 2, 2148, 'Re: Week 8 (Jul 26 - Aug 1) : 32in24-4 MAP31 (MAP31) - Discussion and Results', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.36.4', 1, 0, '', 'GGs FLS&nbsp; ;)&nbsp; Beat Jennys butt!<br /><br />[URL=http://img203.imageshack.us/i/ctf20100730214433.png/][IMG]http://a.imageshack.us/img203/364/ctf20100730214433.png[/img][/URL]<br />[URL=http://img710.imageshack.us/i/ctf20100730215452.png/][IMG]http://a.imageshack.us/img710/7109/ctf20100730215452.png[/img][/URL]<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(2163, 243, 12, 1281061483, 19, 2163, 'Re: IDL SUMMER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.3.36', 1, 0, '', '[b][color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />[list type=decimal]<br />[li]Ralphis[/li]<br />[li]Tai[/li]<br />[li]Hatred[/li]<br />[li]Joshsmith[/li]<br />[li]Whiteboy567[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[b][color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />[list type=decimal]<br />[li]Legion[/li]<br />[li]Fluffles[/li]<br />[li]Jenova[/li]<br />[li]LordBritish[/li]<br />[li]Ladna[/li]<br />[/list]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2184, 246, 1, 1281220737, 19, 2184, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.3.36', 1, 0, '', 'RN?!<br /><br />[img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/070810/1281220713.gif[/img]<br /><br />[quote]blair rn was never any good why are you so fixated on it!![/quote]<br /><br />What leads you to this concl- Oh it&#039;s mike. *back to reading newspaper*', 'xx', 1);
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	(3112, 352, 14, 1293398422, 130, 3112, 'Re: ALERT: OFFICIAL WINTER 2011 IDL-R SCHEDULE RELEASE', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '65.185.143.206', 1, 0, '', 'Miek u suck butt. Also this scheduling is good. I am rooting for Rudy.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4630, 496, 18, 1314314866, 19, 4630, 'Re: Season 10 / Summer 2011 Playoffs - MASTERBOWL X - Discussion and Results ', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.183.245', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://xen.unidoom.org/doom/idl/playoff-brackets-s10.png[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4684, 496, 18, 1315250764, 35, 4684, 'Re: Season 10 / Summer 2011 Playoffs - MASTERBOWL X - Discussion and Results ', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.240.85.23', 1, 0, '', 'who&#039;s the dickless dweeb that aliased as me', 'xx', 1);
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	(1909, 219, 1, 1275272845, 0, 1909, 'Re: Welcome to the Wild West', 'Fastidious', '', '112.200.246.8', 1, 0, '', 'What are you talking about?&nbsp;  8)<br /><br />I just shrunk one of them down really quick.&nbsp; I need to get some editing programs, ugh.<br /><br />[img]http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5003/sany0039mp4thumbs201005.jpg[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(6315, 619, 20, 1330378654, 0, 6315, 'Re: yo yo', 'Soul Sucka', '', '177.16.165.29', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=RustInPeace link=topic=619.msg6314#msg6314 date=1330375183]I guess we could play test some ZDoom Wars map and it&#039;ll be IDL ready! [/quote]<br />I think System Reboot would make a good IDL map, especially considering its similarity to the current MAP32.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2150, 240, 12, 1280713609, 163, 2150, 'Re: Week 8 (Jul 26 - Aug 1) : 32in24-4 MAP31 (MAP31) - Discussion and Results', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '72.240.150.213', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/010810/1280713523.png[/img]<br /><br />[img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/010810/1280713528.png[/img]<br /><br />GGS BSK, too bad we couldn&#039;t play you guys with Stall. Good luck in the WDC Playoffs!', 'xx', 1);
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	(2891, 313, 14, 1290232855, 141, 2891, 'Re: IDL Winter 2011 Signups Open', 'X-Ray', 'jake.281@hotmail.com', '67.82.61.167', 1, 0, '', 'Name: X-Ray<br />Country: USA<br />Email contact: jake.281@hotmail.com<br />Instant Message Contact: #idl , #(R)<br />Regular Availability: every night is good ', 'xx', 1);
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	(2092, 232, 12, 1278973137, 15, 2092, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.95.88', 1, 1278974458, 'ItalianStallion', 'I don&#039;t understand why people are ripping on this season already.&nbsp; It is not over, and there is plenty of time for certain teams to turn it around. EBL, FLS, SPE, and KGB all with losing or .500 records [with the stats currently listed on the website.] can easily have a good competitive finish to the season.&nbsp; A team&#039;s chemistry can only get better with time. <br /><br />If you take a step back, only one team to be kinda of defunct isn&#039;t such of a bad thing.&nbsp; The players on DMR are getting good experience in the IDL, to see what it takes to be competitive in this league.&nbsp; No offense to nero, but if the guy doesn&#039;t want to play on such a team, take him off.&nbsp; And give it to a person who would benefit from it.&nbsp; I&#039;d like to commend Goatface for being resilient as a captain, really man, I respect that.&nbsp; Goat should be honored for sticking around, for we all know, most of us wouldn&#039;t.<br /><br />EDIT: Just saw nero wasn&#039;t on DMR anymore.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2094, 232, 12, 1278981342, 7, 2094, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', '- Ragepost!<br /><br />Nah I just like to say faggot a lot.<br /><br />- We didn&#039;t invite LB.<br /><br />We delegated this to mike, and he said you didn&#039;t want in.&nbsp; Since I like you both I will let you ladies work it out amongst yourselves.&nbsp; I did apologize for it though, and caused a brutal &quot;ice storm&quot; in Oklahoma so you could play a few games.&nbsp; That is how much I love you.<br /><br />- I could have yelled at the board until they gave up trying to repeal franchising.<br /><br />Actually part of it is my fault.&nbsp; As a result of everyone talking about how stale the league was and how much they hated franchising, I suggested repealing it.&nbsp; Then I took off, and when I came back it was gone.&nbsp; Then I quit.&nbsp; I mean yeah I can spend all my time on IDL, thinking about it, berating the board, etc., or I can fuck girls (who speak my language FAST!) once in a while.&nbsp; I&#039;m not saying I&#039;m perfect or omnipotent, I&#039;m saying repealing it was a dumb idea, and we should un-repeal it and make more teams (or do 4v4).<br /><br />- We didn&#039;t have enough captains/players for 10 teams.<br /><br />Well, we didn&#039;t think we did, but we do.&nbsp; When we were tossing around the idea of the reserve league I e-mailed a bunch of the free agents, and got enough to make 2 more teams.&nbsp; Plus, some of the free agents (Nero, Acolyte, etc.) who&#039;ve played this season didn&#039;t even respond, so we still had some wiggle.&nbsp; Really to me, the worst thing in IDL isn&#039;t that players don&#039;t show up, it&#039;s that willing players don&#039;t even have the chance to play.<br /><br />- IDL depends on me.<br /><br />Not really.&nbsp; The only things you guys have historically needed me for are updating the rules page on the site, and updating the stats.&nbsp; The league itself can function just fine, and now you guys can even update the site (and I&#039;m working on the rules page thing).<br /><br />A good example is when I went on vacation for a week this season.&nbsp; Of course the site won&#039;t be updated, so what should we do?<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Panic![/li]<br />[li]Nothing[/li]<br />[li]Assume Ladna will take care of everything anyway[/li]<br />[li]Have everyone upload their demos to the forums and have an admin download them so the links don&#039;t expire[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />I mean I&#039;m not trying to call anyone names, but the &quot;demo situation&quot; is in no way my fault.<br /><br />- Achievements.<br /><br />Achievements are hard, and only a couple people care about them.&nbsp; I think they&#039;re cool, but there&#039;s so many more important things to do that it&#039;s like.... don&#039;t hold your breath.&nbsp; If you want to help though.... you [url=http://bitbucket.org/charlie/idl.org]totally can[/url]!&nbsp; Also those achievement icons are $$$$, I love rainbows.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(3113, 352, 14, 1293410769, 19, 3113, 'Re: ALERT: OFFICIAL WINTER 2011 IDL-R SCHEDULE RELEASE', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.7.88', 1, 0, '', 'Anything with more practice involved is an A+ from Xen.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4045, 433, 16, 1305302292, 130, 4045, 'Re: The Draft', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.4', 1, 1305302657, 'nostar', '[quote author=Ralphis link=topic=433.msg4039#msg4039 date=1305152672]<br />Only way straight draft could work and balance teams successfully is long term and, as we&#039;ve learned, idl captains generally don&#039;t think long term.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />This is the reason behind assigning general skill level rankings to captains. I agree that when Denny takes over for Nero and gets 1st pick that it totally slants the IDL in his favor. However I would have put him toward the top in skill level. That way even if Nero tanked and got 1st pick, the following season&nbsp; captains would be assigned to new spots. The cool part is that these &quot;rankings&quot; change based on performance and on the skill of other captains (new and old). It&#039;s possible that Bones has fallen off the wagon and is becoming washed up. Hatred is an up and comer who took a terrible team and almost whoopered Ralph. So maybe next season those guys switch tiers. It should be up to the IDL administration as a whole. And really I don&#039;t see there being a ton of disagreement. The priv picking is pretty straight forward as far as order goes. I imagine this to be much the same.<br /><br />[quote]IDL has veteran players who are good but are really bad for the IDL&#039;s growth.[/quote]<br /><br />That&#039;s me I suppose.<br /><br />[quote]Ranking captains and players zddl style is a poor idea and I will always stand by this. In Star&#039;s list, he puts tony below Nautilus. However, as far as ctf skills go, I would rank tony above Nautilus. Who is right? Who makes the decision? Can anyone actually even be right? Is Chaindude still as good a captain/player as I am? Am I better than LordBritish or Jenova or Humanbones? How can these questions be quantified fairly?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />It&#039;s not really hard to give a general idea of captain skill level. I wouldn&#039;t really give captains a 1 though 12 ranking anyway. I mentioned making tiers of captains based on their general skill. Something like:<br /><br />[size=1]Mass<br />Legion<br />Clim<br />--------<br />Naut<br />Prime<br />Strangle<br />--------<br />Tai<br />Rus<br />--------<br />Lb<br />Hatred<br />--------<br />Bones<br />Ralphis[/size]<br /><br />Wherein using your infamous randomization it&#039;s possible for Legion to get picks 1-3 and Naut to get picks 4-6 and so on. I personally think that Naut and Clim are terrible captains, not because they&#039;re terrible players but because I&#039;m sure they will disappear, quit, or worse, make bonehead draft decision and sour their teams on IDL in the future. A bad team in your first season, and I don&#039;t mean bad in the sense of skill, but being on a team with Nautilus in your first season is brutal, ask Kyte if you can find her.<br /><br />[quote author=Hatred link=topic=433.msg4043#msg4043 date=1305211256]<br />lol Xeanero is pissed. Although I am curious to as how this guy got a forums account. Even further more, where the hell did he come from? <br />[/quote]<br /><br />His previous name was Jarin_cz and he&#039;s been around for a long time. He cheated a few times on zdaemon, was banned, and now trolls around because everyone #idl in Europe hates him.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4161, 442, 16, 1307579453, 61, 4161, 'Re: A Post About Trading That You Should Read', 'Chain', 'luis_miguelito_@hotmail.com', '70.226.169.42', 1, 1307579722, 'Chain', 'In all my time in the IDL, I haven&#039;t really looked at trading as some form of necessary tool in order to win more games. Granted, my last couple seasons have been my least competitive due to a variety of factors (connection being/sucking a major one when I was in SPE). Considering this, most of my other seasons--particularly those as a captain--have been fun and very competitive.<br /><br />I&#039;ve always been of the mindset that the players you pick at draft time are people you&#039;d actually [b]like[/b] to play with. Therefore, I&#039;ve never traded players except on season 2 when I had to do a crazy little shuffle involving Th0r and Primey I think (I&#039;m horrid with history and I&#039;m old so correct me if I&#039;m wrong). It had to do with someone having to leave, but my team still had fun even though we were outgunned.<br /><br />Then I fast forward to the current state of the IDL and my position is a little different. I had an unsuccessful season with SPE but there were good moments and close calls that could have swung the tide in our favor. Not only that, but I think Prime improved a whole lot since that season :). As my connection and Mantis&#039; worsened, he even considered [b]trading himself out[/b] so that the rest of us could have a decent finish to the season. If that&#039;s not being a good fella and awesome cap, I don&#039;t know what is. He did end up trading Mando out and getting Nazz, which didn&#039;t prove too effective but it was an effort that came too little too late.<br /><br />Bottom line is, trade more! All the speculation and discussion around who is good at what position etc etc etc is BS (I call it &quot;DoomMath&quot;) until you see the right 3 players mesh together in-game. A fine example was my season with Whitney and Fast--people even predicted &quot;clear MB winners&quot; and we were promising, but we didn&#039;t live up to our potential. It takes only a couple games to figure out where your season might be heading and it&#039;s good to even anticipate certain catastrophes like connection, moving, and availability at draft time. While I think there should be some control over trading (as it would be stupid to have the entire team shuffle players every match/week), there&#039;s nothing wrong with balancing out the teams so that things are more competitive and actually fun :)', 'xx', 1);
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	(2149, 240, 12, 1280572457, 131, 2149, 'Re: Week 8 (Jul 26 - Aug 1) : 32in24-4 MAP31 (MAP31) - Discussion and Results', 'Gyrossman', 'mistero@seznam.cz', '89.103.39.137', 1, 0, '', 'ggs kgb<br /><br />[img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/310710/1280572477.png[/img]<br />[img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/310710/1280572508.png[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2159, 243, 12, 1281059824, 10, 2163, 'IDL SUMMER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 1281061796, 'Ralphis', '[center][size=16pt][b]-=Welcome to the IDL Summer 2010 All-Star selection!=-[/b][/size][/center]<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Voting is open to any active players or free agents in the IDL.[/li] <br />[li]Anyone voting may vote on up to five players from each conference that they elect as league all-stars.[/li]<br />[li]Any player voted on must currently be on a roster.[/li]<br />[li]Voting will conclude on Thursday, August 19th at 11:59:59 EST. Any votes received after that time will not be counted.[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />Please vote using the following format:<br /><br />[quote]<br />INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE<br />Pick 1<br />Pick 2<br />Pick 3<br />Pick 4<br />Pick 5<br /><br />WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE<br />Pick 1<br />Pick 2<br />Pick 3<br />Pick 4<br />Pick 5<br />[/quote]<br /><br />The Summer 2010 All-Stars will be announced on Friday, August 20th. Those selected will be offered the opportunity to play in the IDL Summer 2010 All-Star game. The game will likely be scheduled to the same day as MasterBowl VIII. More information on the All-Star game will be released after voting. Good luck to all players and thanks for a great season!', 'thumbup', 1);
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	(6316, 619, 20, 1330378865, 49, 6317, 'Re: yo yo', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '69.7.228.244', 1, 1330383042, 'Killingblair', 'I have been waiting for a thread like this for, quite literally, my entire life.<br /><br />[list]<br />[*][size=4]The Board[/size]<br />You know what? It would be unfair to single out &quot;the board&quot; for the shitstorm we&#039;re in, as they do not represent the management of IDL as a whole, so I&#039;m gonna go ahead and reclassify this:<br /><br />[*][size=4]The IDL Administration[/size]<br />(sorry bones)<br /><br />The IDL Administration, consisting of the board: Dew, Nostar, Xenaero, Mikehail, with MassVC at the helm. Pinned with this group is the commissioner of the IDL this season, HumanBones. Now, most of the board topics and discussions are kept in obscurity unless inquired by a player or anyone else, so it&#039;s quite hard to pin shortcomings of this season on any particular member of the administration. However, the failure of this season is clear and absolute.<br /><br />First off, I&#039;d like to start with the attitude of members of the board. I hate to generalize, but I feel as if every member of the board acts similarly, so it&#039;s an easy thing for me to do. [b]Members of the board routinely display pompous attitudes, as well as demonstrate corruption, collusion, obstruct fair play, obstruct IDL team organized efforts, break written rules (and are immune to their actions),[/b] and that&#039;s just from this season. We, as a player-base, do not want our administration to be complete retards in between long and well drawn out forum posts. This sort of activity from the people who run the league will ultimately hurt the league&#039;s image, as well as drive away any worthwhile players from ever returning. The wound is large and bleeding, and it may be too late to stop it.<br /><br />This is about as general as I can get before I start listing names and incidents.<br /><br />You could come back at me by saying I&#039;m an ungrateful good-for-nothing Mexican bastard. However, the league likely would still be run if Ladna never painstakingly put countless hours into the site, or if the boof conglomerate never ran TT for as long as they did. A lot of people think contributing your skills and money in this way should grant you immunity from everything, from smug attitude to draft fixing. I don&#039;t. To each their own. I do, however, appreciate their patronage and I&#039;m sure everyone in the community agrees with me. (Unless you hate TT or if you&#039;re Mormon and hate technology all-together.)<br /><br />[*][size=4]The Schedule[/size]<br /><br />The schedule was, simply put, a train wreck from the get-go. Sure, Bones may have came up with the map list, but the board had to vote on it. No matter how it came into fruition, we got the end result: a crappy schedule.<br /><br />Now, maps are as much as a personal preference as your favorite type of pie, but if that is the case, there seems to be a consensus among IDL players concerning the crappiness of the schedule. Since I can&#039;t speak for everyone, I&#039;ll just speak for myself!<br /><br />[b]Week 2 - SMART01: Lazarus Revisited[/b]<br />This map is monstrous. The standoffs on this map usually last for a good 2-3 minutes. Also, the weapon and spawn placement could use work. Pretty much every spawn can be camped and the weapon placement is seemingly random concerning the weapon you get when you spawn in mid, compared to when you spawn in your own base.<br /><br />[b]Week 5 - ZDCTF08: Something Epic[/b]<br />this map is a dead horse and plays like one.<br /><br />[b]Week 6 - ZDCTF02: Refineries[/b]<br />Really? MAP02?<br /><br />[b]Week 8 - ZDCTF09: Frozen[/b]<br />Too big, has BFG.<br /><br />[b]Week 9 - ZDU34: Not Kansas[/b]<br />When you&#039;d rather sacrifice your unborn first son than play this map, something is terribly wrong.<br /><br />[*][size=4]idl2012.wad[/size]<br />Perhaps even the biggest controversy happened before the season ever begun. Ralphis, as a captain and nothing more, prepared idl2012.wad and its release candidates. Ralph put painstaking work into ironing out the kinks in every single one of these maps, while adding every single Masterbowl map to the WAD, as a nice touch. There were, however, changes that the IDL Administration believed were required to be changed, [b]despite overwhelming public opinion.[/b] I put emphasis in that because it cannot be emphasized enough. The IDL Administration SHOULD cater to the interests of THE PEOPLE, NOT THEMSELVES. Ralphis changed the MAP32 textures, which, being a map on the schedule, is a pretty big deal. The horrendous, ugly, distracting texturing was replaced with a much more pleasant palette that represented the Doom theme very well. The IDL Administration, however, believed they were being undermined. And being undermined as an administration is much more important than public opinion, or so it seemed. The entire final wad was scrapped, replaced with an older revision [b]that was not thoroughly examined, and, to this day, contains errors on various maps, such as the HOM basement in MAP04. A problem that was fixed in Ralph&#039;s idl2012.wad.[/b]<br /><br />I really cannot think of an excuse for the IDL Administration for this, as it was extremely selfish, and the decision was made in haste. No factors, not even the interest of the public, were considered in this decision. The IDL Administration believes they have been undermined, and action must be taken to prove they control every aspect of the league. No exceptions. I&#039;m actually going to end this post on that note, because it&#039;s the masterstroke of hypocrisy by design. The day when the league no longer seeks after the interests of the players, that is the day the league dies. That check has been cashed.<br />[/list]', 'xx', 1);
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	(6632, 639, 21, 1333573157, 2264, 6632, 'Re: IDL-R Invite List/Signup Thread', 'Stipsi', 'marinekiller@ymail.com', '151.45.106.182', 1, 0, '', 'My first time here, but I&#039;ll get used to it:<br />[quote]Name: Stipsi<br />Country: Italy<br />Email contact: marinekiller@ymail.com<br />Instant Message Contact: IRC @ #SkullTag - SkullTag IRC<br />Regular Availability: Every day this week, except mornings and late evenings[/quote]<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(3380, 362, 14, 1297291567, 73, 3380, 'Re: W2011 IDL-R Free Agent - Trade History', 'Quiksilver', 'joshbryantmusic@gmail.com', '99.71.124.161', 1, 0, '', 'Good luck with getting picked and all that, lol.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3118, 354, 1, 1293484089, 3, 3118, 'Re: Effective Immediately ', 'Joshsmith', 'tonihawker666@yahoo.com', '99.9.212.71', 1, 0, '', '&quot;Miekhail Angelo, &#039;The Masterpiece&#039; Miek Masters&quot; is his fully dubbed nickname. He&#039;s gonna club you with a carrot.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3520, 388, 14, 1297808569, 213, 3520, 'Pre-Pre-Post-Season Predictions Predictions', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '168.91.255.100', 1, 0, '', 'With two-thirds of the regular season over, and only three weeks left to go, it&#039;s becoming clear who will come out ahead of the pack and who will be left behind.<br /><br />I want to know how you guys think the post-season will go at this point.&nbsp; Here&#039;s what I think:<br /><br />As I understand it, there are eight play-off spots, and the two teams with the lowest record from each conference are the four that do not make the play-offs.<br /><br />Current standings as of week 6:<br /><br />[b]IDC: [/b]<br />TKV 417<br />EBL 417<br />KGB 500<br /><br />SUC 833<br />DMC 333<br />DMR 083<br /><br />[b]WDC:[/b]<br />BSK 1000<br />SPE 500<br />SXP 333<br /><br />KNF 667<br />BBC 667<br />FLS 250<br /><br />Right now, unless things turn around significantly, it&#039;s looking like these two teams from each league will be DMC and DMR from IDC and SXP&nbsp; :&#039;( and FLS from WDC.&nbsp; This leaves TKV, EBL, KGB, and SUC for IDC, and BSK, SPE, KNF, and SPE for WDC, seeded differently depending on how the next three weeks go.<br /><br />For IDC, it&#039;s pretty clear that SUC will end up #1 seed with KGB, TKV, and EBL neck and neck for #&#039;s 2, 3, and 4.&nbsp; My prediction is that whiteboy will continue to rage and give KGB the #2 spot, and that EBL will face some tough opponents and fall to #4.&nbsp; For WDC, the undefeated BSK will stay #1 (although I&#039;m predicting an upset in week 9), BBC will rise above KNF to the #2 spot, and KNF will stay above SPE for #3.<br /><br />On the international side of the finals, I think SUC will take EBL and KGB will take TKV due to homefield advantage.&nbsp; In the second round, SUC will overcome KGB, which according to Tai will be due to lack of mid, and move on to the final.&nbsp; On the world side, BSK will win against SPE on their own home court, which will be map01; BBC will take KNF, and in the second round BBC will get an upset victory against BSK and move on to the finals against SUC.&nbsp; On Status: IDLe, even though ralphis can jump INTO the central window, BBC&#039;s flairy playstyle and campy defense will earn them another upset victory and BBC will take home the trophy.<br /><br />Here&#039;s the bracket:<br /><br /> SF&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; F&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; MB!<br />SUC&nbsp; &nbsp;  SUC&nbsp; &nbsp;  SUC<br />EBL<br />KGB&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; KGB<br />TKV<br /><br />BSK&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; BSK<br />SPE<br />BBC&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; BBC&nbsp; &nbsp;  BBC&nbsp; &nbsp;  BBC<br />KNF<br /><br /><br />I&#039;d also like to take this opportunity to say that Nostar is stupid and that WDC &gt; IDC.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2098, 237, 12, 1279050285, 35, 2098, 'Re: Uploading Demos', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.240.85.23', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ladna link=topic=237.msg2097#msg2097 date=1279042343]<br />Week 2&nbsp; 	SUC vs. EBL&nbsp; 	...&nbsp; 	Whiteboy567&nbsp; 	MISSING[/quote]<br /><br />My week 2 demo is in the week 2 thread guess you want me to apply it directly to the website???????????????????', 'xx', 1);
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	(3114, 356, 14, 1293418675, 2, 3114, 'Ventrilo Server', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.57.203', 1, 1293419123, 'mikefails', '[quote author=Gilgamesh link=topic=156.msg1309#msg1309 date=1261197325]<br />Hey guys! Long time no see!<br /><br />If you&#039;d like to login now the info is:<br />Hostname or IP:&nbsp; bromine.typefrag.com<br />Port number: 31786 <br /><br />Teams will be given channel passwords.&nbsp; Harass yr captain&nbsp; ;D<br /><br />Thanks guys!&nbsp; :)<br />Gilga<br /><br />EDIT: If you don&#039;t have Vent already, you can download it here: http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php<br />[/quote]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4162, 445, 16, 1307611222, 75, 4162, 'Re: TECHNO VIKINGS TEAM PIC!', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '178.209.142.37', 1, 0, '', 'rus wants to wear those pants so badly', 'xx', 1);
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	(4046, 433, 16, 1305305876, 19, 4046, 'Re: The Draft', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.249.152', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=nostar link=topic=433.msg4045#msg4045 date=1305302292]<br />It&#039;s not really hard to give a general idea of captain skill level.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />This is right in that if you can&#039;t reliably rank people by skill statistically beyond much of a doubt then don&#039;t bother ranking at all. Wow look how easy that was. I&#039;m expecting payments made out to me. The IDL wizard has spoken.<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/UzwEO.png[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(6633, 642, 17, 1333576342, 64, 6633, 'Re: Hatred won a masterbowl', 'BloodStrike', 'casianoortega@live.com', '71.195.47.145', 1, 0, '', 'I approve this thread.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4553, 483, 16, 1313208322, 17, 4553, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '69.245.157.115', 1, 1313213520, 'Mionic_D', 'http://www.speedyshare.com/files/29843417/GranBeta0812.wad<br /><br />Smaller version of Granary, may keep the bigger one for pub purposes.&nbsp; Call it a directors cut.&nbsp; This one actually seems damn good if I say so myself.&nbsp; Try it out and see that I am right to toot my own horn.<br /><br />Also added a special surprise to the middle!<br /><br />NOTE: CHANGED THE VERSION SINCE 4 HOURS AGO!&nbsp; fixed a missing texture.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4669, 483, 16, 1314908353, 3, 4669, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'Joshsmith', 'tonihawker666@yahoo.com', '99.9.212.71', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;m sure they&#039;d be fun in a pub setting Donut. I can see the flow and complexity you were going for but at the moment the current IDL player base prefers things a little bit simpler. Even maps like 08 are too much effort for most people these days.<br /><br />I understand the criticism for my map but for now I&#039;m just gonna leave it the way it is. I know there is a choke point but the different and wide routes are to make up for that, but still, even map20 has a teleporter into the base. The room by the flag isn&#039;t a big deal to me, I only added it to make the flag room not be as plain, so I decided to add a spawn in there as well. I&#039;m sure someone could utilize it by hiding with the flag there and spamming rockets at anyone trying to get in. Another thing is the very middle is kind of barren, could have put some trees or something but yeah, nothing major.<br /><br />In the future if I ever start a CTF wad project of my own I&#039;ll probably have this map in it(my first CTF map, and I do personally like it) but probably with some slight tweaks and modifications to give it a bit more polish.', 'xx', 1);
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	(7324, 716, 17, 1345448388, 2, 7324, 'Re: SECOND SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '24.18.104.99', 1, 0, '', 'my map will never be outdone', 'xx', 1);
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	(4701, 499, 1, 1315368515, 163, 4701, 'Re: North America Vs Europe', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.50.9.58', 1, 0, '', 'USA would probably win but guys like Gyross and turska could definitely make some noise. Are there any Euros known for defense? It seems like thats what Europe has lacked the most over the last few years - a dominant defender. North America is full of &#039;em. :p', 'xx', 1);
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	(2216, 246, 1, 1281582388, 0, 2216, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'Fastidious', '', '76.217.99.81', 1, 0, '', 'I haven&#039;t played public regularly in years, and I barely play private CTF anymore.&nbsp; The only thing keeping me personally around is the IDL.&nbsp; The IDL is a bit of a pain to play in lately since there are some super competitive people but mainly because once you get a team you are stuck with it all season long pretty much.&nbsp; After the first week or three most teams have a pretty good idea where they will end up unless some crazy trade happens (like Hatred to EBL).&nbsp; Getting a on a winning team is great but getting stuck on a horrible team is so terrible that it makes me barely want to sign up.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8580, 827, 17, 1362026261, 8, 8580, 'Re: Someone else quits', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@intldoomleague.org', '108.207.0.195', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/04d5e84e09e7df24537d80341f8211a2/tumblr_mi00h6V2tZ1rt9vb1o1_400.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(8867, 499, 1, 1365615450, 267, 8867, 'Re: North America Vs Europe', 'RecKle$$_', 'Aesthesic@hotmail.com', '201.103.70.36', 1, 1365618404, 'RecK', '[quote author=capo link=topic=499.msg8865#msg8865 date=1365609907]<br />I can beat everyone on map 20&nbsp; ;D :o<br />[/quote]<br />[img]http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Polly+Slayer+of+Mortals.+It+knows+no+mercy_33843e_4529495.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4067, 435, 18, 1306011025, 216, 4067, 'Re: OFFICIAL SUMMER 2011 DRAFT: LIVE SUNDAY, MAY 22 @ 9 PM EST', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '69.156.126.231', 1, 0, '', 'If it&#039;s still a snake style draft, it&#039;s worse for me :(', 'xx', 1);
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	(4047, 433, 16, 1305306693, 19, 4047, 'Re: The Draft', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.249.152', 1, 1305306810, 'Xenaero', 'Also new post because the last one was too good to disturb.<br /><br />I would like to say first before I get into the meat of the post that teams in the middle or near the top of the first round usually do pretty well, since if you pick first, sure you get a great player, but who&#039;s left at #24? IDL doesn&#039;t work off one or two great players (if you count the captain if he&#039;s really good!) so really the further down you are but not necessarily #8 or #9 I think the better your chances are to get an above average well-rounded team. But that&#039;s all conjecture and I don&#039;t have stats to back it up cause I don&#039;t want to look and I&#039;m lazy. Theorycrafting owns.<br /><br />[quote author=HumanBones link=topic=433.msg4038#msg4038 date=1305151743]<br />As far as going down to 8 captains, it&#039;s not going to happen [b]this season[/b]. I think some of us are a bit quick to judge, and not until the end of this season can we look at doing an overhaul such as that. Consistently bringing in new captains is an important part of the league and it&#039;s future. I also feel as though last season was pretty successful with the 12-team system. I like skill being spread out, too many times in the past have we seen stacked teams. [b]I&#039;m not ruling out a change in the future[/b], but I think right now we need to stay put and see how this works out.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I think 12 captains can work if you get enough people who sign up and play.<br /><br />[img]http://img-s3-01.mytextgraphics.com/sparklee/2011/05/13/93edfe260007d08116970d5c6003c5a5.gif[/img]<br /><br />There are 12 captains for 12 teams. This means 48 players total if each team consists of 4 players. 12 of those players are the captains themselves. This leaves 36 players. There are 25 signups confirmed for the player pool.<br /><br />36 - 25 = 11.<br /><br />We need 11 more signups. If you make sure each team has a full roster with the 25 available signups, this means 3 teams will not have any players and one team will only have one player besides the captain. That and even if you get 11 more players, that leaves absolutely no wiggle room for any player that happens to drop out or never show up.<br /><br />Since you show unwillingness to drop to 8 teams, what must happen is either endless delays as you bug people to reluctantly sign up, or slash the 4th spot from all teams so that spots can be filled and a league can actually take place. No non-2v3 rule? Oh well, what are your other options? Be realistic.<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(4163, 440, 3, 1307629695, 1322, 4163, 'Re: Offseason Projects/Ideas', 'SwiftShot', 'markwwfc1992@hotmail.com', '82.30.151.199', 1, 0, '', 'That would be awesome&nbsp; :)', 'xx', 1);
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	(4278, 456, 16, 1310004631, 130, 4278, 'Re: WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE CURRENT IDL STANDINGS?', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.242', 1, 1310005430, 'nostar', '[quote author=Mantis-X link=topic=456.msg4277#msg4277 date=1309983705]<br />Put FLS/SPE in the IDC ... or put DMC/EBL in the WDC ... Results would flip flop themselves&nbsp; ;)<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I disagree and here is my evidence. SPE&#039;s only loss came to a WDC team. DMC&#039;s only win came to a WDC team. EBL has lost to both conferences, and FLS has wins against both conferences.<br /><br />Look there is a free-win team in both conferences. DMC and KNF more or less roll over. However, after the trade I see DMC winning a couple of games before the end of the season and if KNF can coax Collision into showing up they have a good shot at winning a couple too. Neither are playoff contenders.<br /><br />EBL has a shot. KGB has a rough schedule and it&#039;s likely they&#039;ll only win 1 or 2 more games. FLS can contend with BSK for a spot, and they will probably win it because BSK is mostly chasing an active roster to stave off forfeits. I hypothesize that FLS would make playoffs in the IDC too and that DMC would miss in the WDC. Same goes for SPE in the IDC. <br /><br />The only thing you can really argue is schedule at this point. You can say it wasn&#039;t ideal for EBL to play DMR and TKV to start their season. That doesn&#039;t mean they wouldn&#039;t have lost their first two games to SPE and BBC/SXP just the same if they were in the WDC. DMC was destined to be a bad team in either conference, as was KNF post-nosturi. These aren&#039;t conference differences, they&#039;re skill differences.<br /><br />[quote author=RustInPeace link=topic=456.msg4272#msg4272 date=1309929344]<br />There are 2 reasons why they won their games so far.<br /><br />1. Strangle<br />2. Mobius<br />[/quote]<br /><br />If they&#039;re winning games because a team has a weak link then they&#039;re going to win the majority of their games this season. I see them going 5-4 and staying +.500.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4196, 448, 18, 1308691752, 130, 4196, 'Week 3 (Jun 20 - Jun 26) : ZDCTF01: Fortress Collision - Discussion and Results', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.4', 1, 0, '', '[center][b][size=5]Official Servers for Week 3 of IDL Summer 2011[/size][/b]<br /><br />[color=red][:: TotalTrash Chicago :: IDL- A][/color]<br />[b]66.225.195.41:11022[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][:: TotalTrash Chicago :: IDL- B][/color]<br />[b]66.225.195.41:11023[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][:: TotalTrash Chicago :: IDL -C][/color]<br />[b]66.225.195.41:11024[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][:: TotalTrash Chicago :: IDL- D][/color]<br />[b]66.225.195.41:11025[/b]<br /><br />[center][b][size=5]Alternate Servers for Week 3 of IDL Summer 2011[/size][/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][NJ FUNCRUSHER + || IDL Practice][/color]<br />[b]66.45.244.218:10663[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][NJ FUNCRUSHER + || IDL Summer 2011][/color]<br />[b]66.45.244.218:10662[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue]&lt;Doomed Smurf Dallas&gt; - IDL - A[/color]<br />[b]184.75.249.169:11022[/b]<br /><br />[color=red]&lt;Doomed Smurf Dallas&gt; - IDL - B[/color]<br />[b]184.75.249.169:11023[/b]<br />=======================================================<br />[b]Demonic Colts vs. Doom Raiders (DIV)<br />Sexual Panthers vs. Spread Eagles (DIV)<br />Killing Browns vs. Electric Bills (DIV)<br />Knordic Fnords vs. Flag Stealers (DIV)<br />Techno Vikings vs. Brokeback Cowboys 	<br />Super Chargers vs. Beserker Packers 	<br />=======================================================[/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4633, 483, 16, 1314397045, 216, 4633, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '65.92.127.51', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=483.msg4632#msg4632 date=1314396143]<br />http://www.speedyshare.com/files/30051738/fastcontestmap1.wad<br /><br />Fixed lava?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />The lava in the first pack works for me when i play it single player :S ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4502, 488, 16, 1312731481, 19, 4502, 'Re: week 9 dmc vs. dmr incident', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.183.245', 1, 0, '', 'So if I understand this correctly, lb was supposed to sit out, joined anyway because he thought it was pre-game and screwed everything up, but when a reset came there was confusion as to there being penalties at all ever?<br /><br />My brain is full of fuck.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4518, 460, 17, 1312817974, 147, 4518, 'Re: Trade Rules', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.35.212', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=460.msg4517#msg4517 date=1312811306]<br />One thing I&#039;ve noticed about the IDL is there is usually&nbsp; problem team(s) each season which are the lowest record teams who are no competitive.&nbsp; So the best way to ensure no forfeits is make the teams end up being more equal.[/quote]<br /><br />dmr breaking the mold again', 'xx', 1);
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	(6634, 638, 21, 1333580142, 16, 6634, 'Re: The IDL-R Spring 2012 Season', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '98.216.91.67', 1, 0, '', 'Yea, I&#039;m also glad that something&#039;s being done for the younger players who want their shot in the IDL. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(3116, 342, 14, 1293431164, 17, 3116, 'Re: ALERT: OFFICIAL WINTER 2011 SCHEDULE RELEASE', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '98.228.219.91', 1, 0, '', 'Arent we up to Masterbowl IX?', 'xx', 1);
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	(2111, 232, 12, 1279134701, 15, 2111, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.91.17', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Whiteboy567 link=topic=232.msg2108#msg2108 date=1279090376]<br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=232.msg2107#msg2107 date=1279083937]Especially White since he likes to boss people around.[/quote]<br /><br />ROFL what? you should lay off the opium over there you demented pay-4-sex scumbag!<br />[/quote]<br /><br /><br />I rofl&#039;d.&nbsp; <br /><br />Yeah I was approached to captain this season and I would of done it, but I wasn&#039;t even sure if I was going to participate in this season to be honest.&nbsp; But when I found out I could&#039;ve, someone was already chosen for the job.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3522, 388, 14, 1297816661, 10, 3522, 'Re: Pre-Pre-Post-Season Predictions Predictions', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '209.191.2.162', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=388.msg3521#msg3521 date=1297812474]<br />Whoever is coming out of the WDC is winning it.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Try and do better than you did in week 1 ok', 'xx', 1);
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	(3792, 410, 14, 1300320081, 35, 3792, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.240.85.23', 1, 0, '', 'Wanna get highhhh?', 'xx', 1);
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	(7404, 723, 22, 1346512002, 2210, 7404, 'Re: Simplifying a Situation', 'Spider', 'arconte1337@hotmail.com', '190.47.72.163', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Legion_ link=topic=723.msg7401#msg7401 date=1346495734]<br />[quote author=dew link=topic=723.msg7400#msg7400 date=1346493461]<br />as much as i can empathize with both affected teams, the only two things that can be done are:<br /><br />- oda working in a more robust and permanent solution for banlist handling.<br />- skulltag getting their fucking shit together. tosen is a human waste, everyone knows it, yet he gets passwords from YOU, my dear skulltag players. [H] members, stop destroying our league by supporting your braindead clanmates.<br />[/quote]<br />the only players in the H roster who are currently playing in the idl is me and watermelon. I assure you neither of us would ever give him the password to a server. that being said it isn&#039;t hard to get the password to the idl servers, the fucking topic is located right here http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?topic=662.0<br /><br />I dont condone his actions and I think it was really shitty thing to do, but claiming that H is destroying the idl is dumb as fuck and you know it. H would never do something like this, and he does not represent us as a whole, he only represents himself in his dumb actions.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Hey you forgot about me Legion. Anyway, we are not even responsible for his, the fact he is in the same clan than us in skulltag doesn&#039;t have anything to do with him ruining IDL games, he is acting on his own because he&#039;s stupid. So please dont involve all of our clan into this because it&#039;s not even fair. I had literally nothing to do with this neither had legion or watermelon, and we are getting accused of being involved with all this thing about ruining up games just because i am in a clan with him, when i&#039;m totally against it, because it&#039;s dumb so, How is this fair?', 'xx', 1);
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	(2107, 232, 12, 1279083937, 0, 2107, 'Re: Maybe too early, but....', 'Fastidious', '', '112.200.157.45', 1, 1279084058, 'Fastidious', '[quote author=Ladna link=topic=232.msg2094#msg2094 date=1278981342]<br />I can fuck girls (who speak my language FAST!) once in a while.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />So jealous!&nbsp; ;D&nbsp; Actually all of them speak English, some are perfectly fluent.&nbsp; A few days ago I was bar hopping with a friend and one of the girls corrected him and explained how to use the word &quot;malleable&quot;.&nbsp; Most of the women in the USA wouldn&#039;t even do that.&nbsp; One of their favorite things to do is sing karaoke in English!<br /><br />Xen you know I suck so there.&nbsp;  8)<br /><br />Oh, and Nostar LOL to your post.&nbsp; I think you are over doing it though, I don&#039;t even feel the the urge to reply it is so ridiculous.&nbsp; &lt;3&nbsp; And yeah, I don&#039;t hold grudges I would totally play with anyone on an IDL team, even crazy old Nostar or Nero.<br /><br />Personally the IDL went to shit after Potent quit.&nbsp; I do miss a lot of the old characters except Nautilus.&nbsp; The thing with most of the new guys is that aren&#039;t really new to Doom just the IDL so most of them can get better but I think it&#039;ll take them much longer than say someone from Quake or Unreal like Me and Mike or Nostar who got pretty good at Doom CTF quickly.&nbsp; I do hope we can hit 10 captains again, and I hope the best players step up.&nbsp; I think White and Stall could be great captains too.&nbsp; Especially White since he likes to boss people around.<br /><br />Edit:&nbsp; I would like to see achievements just because I think they&#039;ll be cool and fun to see implemented.&nbsp; You know Xen will keep adding on to them once they get going too!&nbsp; The IDL site is pretty spiffy, everyone should give Ladna mass kudos.&nbsp; Thanks Ladna for the site!&nbsp; The only real thing I want to see is team stats now and maybe someday past seasons will get filled out stat wise.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4197, 448, 18, 1308700232, 216, 4197, 'Re: Week 3 (Jun 20 - Jun 26) : ZDCTF01: Fortress Collision - Discussion and Results', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '65.92.127.153', 1, 0, '', '<br />[u][size=4][color=black]DMC[/color] vs. [color=blue]DMR[/color] (DIV)[/size][/u]<br /><br />Sorry Naut, but there&#039;s no way you can overcome the powerhouse that is DMR. You may get a few flags though. <br /><br />[b]DMR 2-0[/b] <br /><br />[u][size=4][color=purple]SXP[/color] vs. [color=limeGreen]SPE[/color] (DIV)<br />[/size][/u]<br />This match up is very intriguing. Some may say that SXP has become a force to be reckoned with when they picked up nosturi, and I&#039;d say they&#039;re right. However I see SPE as being strong on this map as well. Mass and Dr noob have the ability to hold down the defensive sides of things (especially on a frag heavy map) and mike can be an exceptional runner when he wants to be. This is the toughest one to call this week IMO, but I predict SXP barely coming out with a W. <br /><br />[b]SXP 2-1[/b]<br /><br />[size=4][u][color=brown]KGB[/color] vs. [color=yellow]EBL[/color] (DIV)<br />[/u][/size]<br /><br />EBL has been rather disappointing so far this season. Hopefully their godlike pickup will help them out. On the KGB side of things, Tai has one of the best rookies this season, junior. I predict Junior shining on Mid or D (whatever Tai puts him on) and leading KGB to a week three victory.<br /><br />[b]KGB 2-1[/b]<br /><br />[u][size=4][color=green]KNF[/color] vs. [color=red]FLS[/color] (DIV)<br />[/size][/u]<br /><br />Hmm. HMMMMMM. Strangle&#039;s team certainly looks a lot weaker now that nosturi is gone (not to mention that he has just gotten back from vacation or wherever he was). FLS is definitely stronger than last season, and this week is as good as any to get that first win. <br /><br />[b]FLS 2-0[/b]<br /><br />[u][size=4][color=navy]TKV[/color] vs. [color=pink]BBC[/color][/size][/u]<br /><br />??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???<br /><br />[u][size=4][color=teal]SUC[/color] vs. [color=orange]BSK[/color]&nbsp; <br />[/size][/u]<br /><br />This is an interesting match up. I haven&#039;t seen either team practice much, and missed all of their games (except BSK week one vs BBC). However, looking at the teams on paper, I would have to declare SUC the victor. <br /><br />[b]SUC 2-0[/b]<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(4048, 433, 16, 1305361758, 0, 4048, 'Re: The Draft', 'capodecima', '', '88.103.101.55', 1, 0, '', 'nostar is profanity bitch&nbsp; ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4279, 456, 16, 1310007219, 10, 4279, 'Re: WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE CURRENT IDL STANDINGS?', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '98.225.144.111', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=nostar link=topic=456.msg4278#msg4278 date=1310004631]<br />EBL has a shot.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />At winning a game or two maybe', 'xx', 1);
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	(4503, 488, 16, 1312732044, 147, 4503, 'Re: week 9 dmc vs. dmr incident', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.35.212', 1, 0, '', 'basically dew&#039;s standpoint is that nostar shouldn&#039;t have called for that reset at all, and while i think his intentions were pure, i tend to agree with dew.&nbsp; anyway we will probably replay it', 'xx', 1);
