Same problems Saber described in irc I&#039;ve been saying since 5.6. I literally call the ssg a katana because I&#039;d have to swing my weapon around like a blade to lay a shot in.<br /><br />And that&#039;s for straight shots. <br /><br />I know I am not the most prominent player ever, but when it takes 4 shots on judas for autoaim to register enough damage to kill someone from the top to the bottom of the pit whereas Zdaemon it might take 1 or even 2 then there&#039;s a problem. Vanilla automaim? Sure. Some shots don&#039;t even lower and appear right above the player, and though this happens in both other ports it seems Odamex shares this annoying Skulltag fault.<br /><br />Then there&#039;s delay puffs.<br /><br />I don&#039;t know. I think Odamex is alright. I only gave it a bad rep because of Hex, Alexmax, and Ralphis. I just agree with Ladna about waiting a little longer before moving.