I lied, I will post some more!!&nbsp; ;D<br /><br />There was some good discussion that took place on TS last night and I&#039;ll go over some of the stuff I covered with Mass:<br /><br />-Map32 mspaint textures<br />-Map28 spawns being &quot;fixed&quot;<br />-Possible patch for the map32 textures<br />-General overview of the IDL2012 wad<br /><br /><br />[i][b]Map32 mspaint textures[/b][/i]<br /><br />It&#039;s something we&#039;ve all discussed. We all know the majority of the players hate the textures so that&#039;s about that. I suppose the biggest grievance I had was that most players did not want the mspaint textures. I am aware of the poll&nbsp; and that it didn&#039;t suggest there was so much dislike for the textures. It&#039;s true, there wasn&#039;t but the sample was recorded from such a small base as it was, it&#039;s really hard to gauge from that alone either way. That being said, the general public was against the idea of the textures and we really shouldn&#039;t need a poll to reflect that. Players talk in several channels and amongst each other. Some players make their feelings known elsewhere and aren&#039;t always avid forums users. Basically, it was well-known they weren&#039;t liked.&nbsp; It&#039;s hard to believe the board was not aware of that. If they weren&#039;t, then there&#039;s certainly a massive disconnect from the player base and the board which is an entirely different problem itself. I&#039;ll let others chime in on that, however. <br /><br />The solution? It might be too late but it was suggested last night that a patch be made with Ralph&#039;s textures instead. Mass seemed open to it but there might not be enough time to get it voted on, passed, created and so on. But maybe there is, I don&#039;t know. This depends on how fast the voting process would take place I suppose. <br /><br />[b][i]Map28 Spawn &quot;fixes&quot;[/b]<br /><br />This one didn&#039;t make much sense to me. The map had already been played for two season, hosted one of the greatest play-off matches of all time and has always made for good matches. There really wasn&#039;t any need to tweak this to begin with. Some of the spawns didn&#039;t work and normally, a map adjustment should be done before the map is introduced - not after it&#039;s been played for two seasons. <br /><br />In doing so, those changes literally destroyed the maps gameplay. Nobody wants to play it with the two lower area pistol spawns. I actually would have used it as a homefield map without the fixed spawns but didn&#039;t want to touch it because of that. So this change basically nuked a map within the wad. <br /> <br />The 28 spawn fixes were included in the map32 textures poll and as I mentioned above, going off of a small sample of players won&#039;t really give you anything conclusive on how the players feel. It had a little more support than the 32 textures but was still generally not accepted. Regardless, it shouldn&#039;t have been suggested to fix it to begin with. <br /><br />[b][i]IDL2012 Wad[/b]<br /><br />As I stated before, I don&#039;t hate the wad that much. I have my complaints I suppose. But this probably isn&#039;t the place to list what maps I&#039;d like to see in the wad. Ladna created a separate thread for that. <br /><br />The only complaint I had was that some good, proven maps were taken out while some other less-played, less-liked maps remained. As far as those maps not well-liked go, my personal list would have been to remove map09, map14, map15 and so on. The board did a good job on kicking out some ugly ass maps, too. Such maps from last seasons wad includes: map06 (ugly caves), map10 (THOSE DAMN TREES) and a few old, less-played ZDCTF maps. <br /><br />But regardless, maps are generally rotated in and out and I&#039;m sure some of the maps that weren&#039;t even touched this season for the schedule or homefield will see their way out in future versions. I just think this wad could have had better maps than&nbsp; 21, 23-25, 27, fixed 28, 30 and 32 (too chaotic, even with fixed textures). That&#039;s my own personal opinion. As far as maps being added in their places? I&#039;ll come up with a list for Ladna&#039;s separate thread. 