[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=16.msg133#msg133 date=1214934677]<br />Although I&#039;ve said otherwise before, now that I think about it, I don&#039;t see really what the major issue is with Nos trying to get an all-NS team. I mean, look at FFF, they&#039;re basically all R. No one bitched about that.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />TCM was basically all [SIN] too, so was TXT (and now CTB is all [UD]).&nbsp; I don&#039;t think Shakal was bitching in his post (and even though I didn&#039;t mean to, I probably came off that way myself), he was just trying to foil Nostar.&nbsp; IMO, familiarity and chemistry is more important than skill... up to a point, so I think it makes perfect sense to draft clanmates.&nbsp; Nothing wrong with that!<br /><br />[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=16.msg133#msg133 date=1214934677]<br />On the other hand, I really despise how PotentPotables said he wouldn&#039;t play on a given team, if selected. That&#039;s just despicable.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=Chain link=topic=16.msg122#msg122 date=1214861642]<br />Jkist tried to pull the same thing in season 2, when it was me that suggested he sign up (for fun/competition, of course). Basically he has the disclaimer in place so that if a &quot;lesser&quot; team gets him, he can fall back on it. If someone HE likes or he considers &quot;good&quot; picks him, then it&#039;s all great.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Other players do basically the same thing, whether they:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Tell a captain they &quot;won&#039;t be on much&quot; during the season[/li]<br />[li]Tell a captain they &quot;don&#039;t think they play well together&quot;[/li]<br />[li]Harass their captain to trade them[/li]<br />[li]Tell a captain they simply won&#039;t play for them[/li]<br />[li]Quit showing up altogether[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />As far as I can figure, there&#039;s really only 3 things Ralphis could do about it (I certainly don&#039;t speak for him tho):<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Bar players from signing up with a &quot;disclaimer&quot;, whether in IRC or on the forums or w/e[/li]<br />[li]Suspend or ban players who have chronic attendance problems[/li]<br />[li]Keep lower skilled players from captaining[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />I think that the 3rd option is pretty unnecessary, just because the midseason draft usually fixes it (if you don&#039;t trade all your picks away, use your picks, and use them wisely...).&nbsp; I [b]do[/b] think that you should be committed to playing all of your games if you sign up for IDL.&nbsp; I [b]don&#039;t[/b] think that you have to be excited about playing for any captain who might draft you.<br /><br />I&#039;ve been fortunate enough to be on competitive teams both the seasons I&#039;ve been in IDL, but I know for a fact that players on non-competitive teams grouse about it, and I also know for a fact that players worry about getting drafted onto non-competitive teams.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a big deal at all.&nbsp; It sounds like that&#039;s all Potent was doing, and I honestly think there&#039;s a difference between telling a captain you&#039;d rather not play for them and the stuff in the list up there.&nbsp; There&#039;s plenty of examples of players doing classless things in IDL, but this is one of the most severe flames I&#039;ve seen and I don&#039;t understand why, especially given that Potent&#039;s reputation and attendance are pretty good.&nbsp; I mean, isn&#039;t anyone upset that Tenchu &quot;verbally agreed&quot; to play a weak lineup against CRK in exchange for a midseason pick?&nbsp; What does his team think about that, given that it probably would have kept them from the playoffs?&nbsp; I think anyone would say that&#039;s 10000000x worse than telling a captain you don&#039;t want them to draft you (if that&#039;s even bad), but no one&#039;s flaming Tenchu (or Donut, for proposing it).&nbsp; Not that I think they should be flamed (and I really don&#039;t want to get into it), I&#039;m just saying the reactions seem way off balance.