i&#039;m putting this into a separate thread, because i can&#039;t post in the IDL news section, not even reply to an existing thread.<br /><br />what happened?<br />lb served a demo infraction penalty &quot;for last week.&quot; and indeed his demo is missing, but:<br />[list type=decimal]<br />[li]oh, wait. nostar&#039;s demo is missing as well, so this should&#039;ve been a double penalty and DMC should&#039;ve started with a 3v1 power play![/li]<br />[li]oh, wait. doomguy&#039;s and danny&#039;s demos are also not uploaded! rules state nothing about penalties cancelling each other out, so it should&#039;ve been me vs gyross 1v1 for 3 minutes![/li]<br />[li]oh, wait! lb&#039;s missing two demos, so after 3 minutes nostar, dg and danny should&#039;ve joined and lb should&#039;ve sat for the entire round![/li]<br />[li]oh, wait!!! there are [url=http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?topic=439.0]no demo infraction penalties given[/url], because almost every team has multiple offenders.[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />all in all, this should&#039;ve been a regular 3v3. i&#039;ve checked forums, #idlb logs and game logs after i joined the server and bones didn&#039;t say anything about any penalties. mike and mass, both present in the server, didn&#039;t know about lb&#039;s penalty. [b]i didn&#039;t know about the penalty[/b] and i&#039;m both a board member and captain of the opposing team.<br /><br />so reset is called and passed, players all jump into the game except lb.<br />[quote]dmr lbbbbbb: im gonna eat a penalty<br />dmr lbbbbbb: in game 1[/quote]<br /><br />this he said after the round had started. pardon me, but isn&#039;t that a little bit too late to inform people? not to mention this penalty seems self-imposed.<br />[quote]buttass: lb has a penalty?<br />mass: no he&#039;s just being nice[/quote]<br /><br />why, thank you for giving us one flag head start, lb, but i didn&#039;t ask for it and i certainly didn&#039;t want it. neither me nor my teammates need your pity. such behaviour goes against the competitive spirit of IDL. beat us 2x 5-0 if you can, but don&#039;t toy with us like this, please. but that&#039;s not the end of it, oh no.<br />[quote]buttass: why is he playing then<br />buttass: if he has a penalty[/quote]<br /><br />lb was so busy chatting with spectators that he thought it was still pre-game and joined in while running his mouth about serving a penalty. everyone got confused and then came DMR&#039;s third masterstroke.<br />[quote]dmr lbbbbbb: is this the game<br />dmr lbbbbbb: ?<br />dmr starrrrrrrr: restart?<br />buttass: yeah<br />buttass: it is<br />[UD]HumanBones: what<br />[dmc]dew: wtf<br />dmr lbbbbbb: oh i didnt know<br />buttass: idiot<br />Fastidious: hahah<br />-SNIP-<br />Vote &quot;map reset&quot; called by &quot;dmr starrrrrrrr&quot;.<br />-SNIP-<br />buttass: why are you reseting<br />dmr starrrrrrrr: go<br />[DMC]Doomguy666: are we playing?<br />buttass: just play<br />dmr starrrrrrrr: play<br />[dmc]dew: wtf<br />[dmc]dew: are you guys serious?<br />[UD]HumanBones: now play<br />-SNIP-<br />mass: we should reset<br />dmr lbbbbbb: reset and i am pwoerplayed<br />buttass: bones administrate<br />dmr starrrrrrrr: yes<br />dmr starrrrrrrr: lb do&#039;nt join<br />[dmc]dew: what the fuck is this<br />dmr lbbbbbb: im sorry<br />[UD]HumanBones: i dont understand whats going on mike<br />-SNIP-<br />Vote &quot;map reset&quot; called by &quot;dmr starrrrrrrr&quot;.<br />&quot;dmr starrrrrrrr&quot; voted YES.<br />&quot;dmr gyrossss&quot; voted YES.<br />&quot;dmr lbbbbbb&quot; voted YES.<br />&quot;[DMC]Danny&quot; voted YES.<br />Vote passed[/quote]<br /><br />[url=http://pastebin.com/dF5Yc0ZJ]here&#039;s the whole log[/url]. nostar just called a reset in the middle of the confusion and the game grinded to a halt. the rules say nothing about resetting games already in progress, but i&#039;ve seen games go on uninterrupted even after players got kicked out of the server, lagged and/or glitched heavily and even when one team played with 4 players for a minute or so. the game should&#039;ve continued. i see only two possible scenarios for a restart:<br />[list]<br />[li]the commish allows it. bones was in the server and he told us to play on.[/li]<br />[li]the captains agree to it. i should&#039;ve said no vocally, but i didn&#039;t specifically say yes, did i?[/li]<br />[/list]<br />the second vote happened within an instant and in the confusement i decided to play, but i believe this was an illegal disruption of the game. nostar, a regular player, called for a reset twice without my consent, or the commish&#039;s.<br /><br />when i pressed the issue in #idlb, everyone just said &quot;they shouldn&#039;t have done it,&quot; but then avoided the issue. i feel like it is only because DMC doesn&#039;t matter in the playoff race and everyone thinks we&#039;d lose anyways. this still doesn&#039;t make it okay to wave it away. we got mocked on our season&#039;s last game and DMR just did whatever they wanted. after all the effort from ralph, bones and my team to resurrect the collapsing DMC, it feels like we shouldn&#039;t have bothered.