there is probably zero chance to get idl on zdaemon because of the bad blood that exists.<br /><br />however, any time I recommend the idl to migrate to zandronum, I am met with a wall of almost blind hatred and insults. its like there&#039;s a crippling fear of actually having an active league. morons like tosen and kalfoxis can be easily filtered out, and the good, dedicated zandronum players can be gathered (there are quite a few of them there, actually! it just takes some searching) however, players are already getting used to odamex for the idl, and another migration might further disillusion the already dwindling player base. I don&#039;t see many good options here.