[quote=&quot;MassVC&quot;]The fact that Xen made logos doesn&#039;t morally entitle us to keeping these team names for the rest of our fucking lives.&nbsp; Xen is in favor of have the administration change some of the lamer team names, in which we will need to make new logos anyway (just not continually for future seasons).&nbsp; It&#039;s not a lack of appreciation.[/quote]<br /><br />You read into this a bit too much. It was mostly sarcasm, which to be fair, I should have made brackets denoting that. Nonetheless, I think we all appreciate what Xen has done and will continue to do for us. <br /><br />[quote=&quot;MassVC&quot;]Do you also feel sorry for people who have fun playing in a video game league, who dream of winning a a fake finals game, or who pride themselves on being the best D5M7 player?&nbsp; I&nbsp; certainly would if I thought that they thought that that&#039;s what made them matter.&nbsp; But more likely, they are just having fun with an online video game.&nbsp; Naming teams is fun.&nbsp; Deal with it.[/quote]<br /><br />It seems I struck a nerve of some sort here. Ah well, fuck you :). In all seriousness though, I&#039;m all for this discussion but I just can&#039;t help but feel like there are for more important things to discuss. I find it somewhat disappointing that out of all the threads currently active debating IDL Politics/Terms, this one has the most activity. There are other things worth discussing with much greater implications on the future of the league. If you want to matter, I suppose that&#039;s where you should start - hence my comment about mattering. <br /><br />[quote=&quot;assVC&quot;]Actually, I think it is more confusing to call Clim&#039;s team last season BSK after calling Jen&#039;s team BSK the season before.&nbsp; Let me ask you a question: was BSK a successful team?&nbsp; There&#039;s no answer because the name refers to many different teams!&nbsp; Was SNAX a successful team? No!&nbsp; I know this because I know who we&#039;re talking about.&nbsp; I&#039;d rather have one name for each team than twelve names for a hundred teams--THAT is confusing.[/quote]<br /><br />How in god&#039;s name do you find it confusing? BSK? Who&#039;s? Clims? Jen&#039;s? Oh okay. simple enough. <br /><br />Oh, wait, who? PapaDickSquad? Peanut Butter and Jelly? Jam not jelly? Chris Benoit RageTEAM? Oh okay, I literally don&#039;t know anything about those teams other than the name&#039;s are gay. <br /><br />At least with the current system, going back in time associating these names to static teams gives it a better sense of organization. For example, most people forget I&#039;ve been drafted in previous seasons. Do you remember me being a part of cM? Do you remember me being a part of SOM? What about DNO? No, but you certainly remember me being a part of DMR and EBL. <br /><br />The second option is far easier to depict. And quite frankly, it just looks better. And I don&#039;t really have to argue that because it just does.<br /><br />Back to being serious though: either way it seems we have two opposite stances on a sense of organization and specification here. Fair enough, to each his own. <br /><br />I agree with you, we should have fun. But I prefer to have fun by actually playing and organizing practices/matches and having the adrenaline rush they tend to give you. Would naming my team&#039;s name be fun? It would be kind of cool but I&#039;d just rather stick to a system that has that laid out already so we&#039;re not spending time on approving names/discussing them when we could be doing more productive things.<br /><br />I&#039;ll give you this, Mass. I do believe some of the names are lame and wouldn&#039;t necessarily be against changing them so they have a more DooMish feel. But I feel like that&#039;s something that can be addressed later rather than now.<br /><br />