Im not trying to look like a know it all, but if ive come off like that, sorry. <br /><br />@Ralph<br />Im not a fan of the administration of ZD, I just like the port; and so do other players who don&#039;t speak because they are never asked to, so I don&#039;t see how my lack of participation makes my post any less credible, even if my views were based on skewed ideas. I don&#039;t want to fall into some sort of semantic trap again so ill just stop there.<br /><br />@ bones<br />Now that I think about it, I can vaguely remember trying out oda with others before the league had moved there.<br /><br />I know that everyone can&#039;t be pleased with the change to oda - me being one of them. The reasons for the move from what Ive heard is that zd was a &quot;dieing&quot; port, and the fact that zd administration wouldn&#039;t give the league the new server clients or whatever they&#039;re called.