[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=178.msg1576#msg1576 date=1267211013]<br />OK here it comes, I am surprised you managed to hold back so long.&nbsp; Ralph I&#039;ve been talking to you to try new IDL ideas since season fucking 2.&nbsp; Almost none of them have been tried.&nbsp; I&#039;ve had lots of crazy ideas and some I think are rather sound.&nbsp; It is sort of pathetic it takes a huge out pouring of many players from the league for people to get heard.&nbsp; People have been vehemently arguing against 3v2 for instance for ages yet were in the past just ignored.[/quote]<br /><br />Everybody talks about new ideas. Just because people talk about them doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re a good idea. I created the board so that more ideas could flow freely and to take power away from myself.<br /><br />I was wrong about 3v2 in the past and it should&#039;ve been corrected sooner. I don&#039;t want to see a ZDDL system where you can play your games whenever because then you end up with a ton of unplayed games. ZDDL can&#039;t even get two players together for a lot of those games, how are you going to get 6 together with no organization? The IDL isn&#039;t an utopia and there needs to be order.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=178.msg1576#msg1576 date=1267211013]<br />It is IDL politics, if you can&#039;t understand that it is sad you are so influential on the league.&nbsp; There have been many unfair decisions season after season without justification.&nbsp; I just wanted to bring up a recent example where two teams were given a lot of help while a certain other one was not.&nbsp; EBL played by the rules, BSK and DMR had them bent in their favor, it is as simple as that.&nbsp; I know they are special cases but the point is, why should a special case be the only one where teams are allowed flexibility to regain their competitiveness?&nbsp; Results are what matter to me.[/quote]<br /><br />Again, [b][i]you haven&#039;t provided any examples[/i][/b] because there have been basically none since season 5 when I implemented the board to try and do away with any sort of unfair things that I might be able to do without other people watching me. I created the IDL board to get more ideas flowing and, to a lesser extent, monitor what sort of changes I can make.<br /><br />Stop dwelling on one decision I made in Season 3 where I let Naut go to VGR, because I&#039;m pretty sure that&#039;s mostly the extent of your politics argument.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=178.msg1576#msg1576 date=1267211013]<br />I also probably am a big jerk but I still think Doomguy and Dragan just gave up on the league.&nbsp; I don&#039;t believe they&#039;ve been iced back into the stone age.&nbsp; It&#039;s been almost a month now hasn&#039;t it?&nbsp; If indeed they are in such bad shape I&#039;ll apologize.[/quote]<br /><br />Pretty sure you&#039;re wrong about this. Maybe they lost their internet connection because they had to work extra hard to make up for bills or whatever costs of living were incurred during a national disaster. I haven&#039;t been able to get him on the phone.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=178.msg1576#msg1576 date=1267211013]<br />I don&#039;t want to rank anyone Ralph, I just want to try new things and that was one I thought was really interesting.&nbsp; It would make trading much more viable and teams wouldn&#039;t be allowed to conspire much since bidding would force their hand.&nbsp; I know you think the IDL right now is some market but it is not, it&#039;s a secret back room of politics.&nbsp; The IDL has made some fucking terrible decisions and most of them are driven by elitist and competitive interests.&nbsp; As the league goes on you see this more and more.&nbsp; I think what Dew hinted at in his post is somewhat true in this regard.&nbsp; The franchise rule is officially implementing politics into the IDL rules.&nbsp; The invite only list is politics officially coming into the IDL.&nbsp; These are driven by people like you Ralphis who want to exclude and have more power over people.&nbsp; I know you hate the IDL board as well since it takes power away from you.[/quote]<br /><br />The invite list was created to ensure that we get as many active players as possible. We were tired of getting players that sign up that never even show up in #idl, bail out on teams, or do other stupid shit that degrade the league.<br /><br />I don&#039;t want more power, I want less power. I hoped one day the IDL could basically be as automated as possible so I could stop [b]babysitting[/b] since that is what I basically do for the duration of IDL seasons. This shit doesn&#039;t run itself, it takes people like Ladna and myself to make things happen and it&#039;s often excruciating.<br /><br />We have a functioning, considerably stable league. A ton of drastic change overnight could do more harm than good. We do try new things. They&#039;re just not always the new things you want to try and that&#039;s ok.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=178.msg1576#msg1576 date=1267211013]I haven&#039;t really followed the league much since last season(if you didn&#039;t notice I sort of went on a break) but the example I already listed are pretty obvious.&nbsp; If you can&#039;t admit that is politics then I don&#039;t know what to tell you.&nbsp; Why wasn&#039;t Xen offered to choose a player not on the reserve list for instance?&nbsp; I am happy LB got on DMR don&#039;t get me wrong but stuff like this happens more than the IDL will admit.&nbsp; In the past it often happened before the mid season draft when some team needed a new guy and couldn&#039;t wait, they&#039;d get a new player, but not top talent from the mid season draft.[/quote]<br /><br />Xenaero himself doesn&#039;t even agree with you on this point so I don&#039;t even need to even go into this too much. There were no politics involved in this decision, emergency actions were taken to ensure that the a team didn&#039;t collapse even more than it already was. Take the tinfoil off your head, George Bush did 9/11.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=178.msg1576#msg1576 date=1267211013]<br />[quote author=Ralphis link=topic=178.msg1575#msg1575 date=1267209284]<br />Why not let two players TDM in ZDDL instead of playing a 1on1?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Are you joking here?&nbsp; CTF is a team game, ZDDL is duel, do you not see the difference?&nbsp; We play 3v3, 4v4 and up in private all the time.&nbsp; There is no schedule difference for a 3v3 or 4v4, if both teams have 4 and want to play 4v4, why not?&nbsp; Everyone gets to play then.&nbsp; Isn&#039;t that what the IDL is about?&nbsp; I guess not.&nbsp; Ralph to you the IDL is about winning at all costs, conspiring to victory and rigging the rules in your favor.&nbsp; I want to have a lot of fucking fun and I still believe the best way to do that is make the goal of having IDL seasons end up with every team .500 records.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />If you want to play in an unorganized scrimmage league, go start one. The IDL is a format league. It&#039;s 3v3 now and if the board changes it to 4v4, then it&#039;s 4v4. Mixing and matching is stupid and dilutes the concept.<br /><br />The IDL -is a competitive league- and it always has been by design since its inception. If you want to play in unorganized, mostly uncompetitive crap go play in any of the mostly defunct ZDaemon tournaments or SICL. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll find it&#039;s much more fun.<br /><br />[b][u]If you don&#039;t have fun competing at CTF, why are you in a competitive CTF league?[/u][/b] This league has brought people together as friends while being ultra competitive since season 2. Many people have fun in this environment and if you don&#039;t, well then what can you do? Unfortunately, it&#039;s impossible sometimes to make a product (in the grandest sense of the word) or service appeal to everybody. <br /><br />If you love to play ZDaemon CTF at an organized, competitive level, then the IDL is probably for you and I encourage you to stick around. If you want to play non-serious games, I&#039;m sure there are other avenues you can explore that might better suit your interests.