[center][b]SEASON LENGTH[/b][/center]<br />[quote author=nostar link=topic=173.msg1536#msg1536 date=1266955484]I like the concept of&nbsp; short (and more frequent) seasons. The only reason shorter ones make more sense is to preserve the player base. Good teams will have the same awesome games and bad teams won&#039;t have to suffer 4 months of badness followed by 3 months of off season.[/quote]<br /><br />This is something I could see going either way, I would currently like to have longer seasons the way things stand now, because of how much downtime there is from season to season.&nbsp; Whether the answer to that is to run longer seasons, or some sort of miniature program in the offseasons, or simply shorter, more frequent seasons, its up for grabs.&nbsp; What might be sorta fun (or sorta gay) is during the off season to set up a bunch of training exercises that more fully define the maps and spread ideas between players.&nbsp; I mean in a way private ctf already does this, but in another way it doesn&#039;t because its mostly for fun and having fun to me is either winning or playing within your comfort level, whereas a training camp (run by goat of course :D) could go a long way to mix up and expose players to different ideas and techniques.&nbsp; Good idea??<br /><br />[center][b]MAP SELECTION[/b][/center]<br /><br />A lot of maps seem to be hated right away, but then become more well liked after an IDL game is played on them.&nbsp; It is sorta validating to me when I am really in favor of a map like 32in24-4 09, generic gray (idl map14) and it becomes mildly popular as a result of this!&nbsp; I wouldn&#039;t mind one bit community map voting but I could see a few problems coming up.&nbsp; As seen in ZDDL most players just don&#039;t vote for maps!!&nbsp; Whether this is a problem that would continue or would be a non issue is unknown.&nbsp; As Ladna stated before, many players have wildly differing interests and I believe many good maps could be swept aside due to bad first impressions (like the map I mentioned above and will never stop mentioning)&nbsp; It would be extremely nice to have more playtesters to play the maps that do eventually get picked, as this helps Ralphis with the wad and allows us to pinpoint any major issues that might have been missed initially.<br /><br />[center][b]4v4 Format[/b][/center]<br /><br />4v4 would be a LOT of work.&nbsp; While that is not necessarily a bad thing, it seems that it would also be a bit more boring.&nbsp; While it would take a bit of chance out of the game and negate some of the more skilled players slightly, teams would probably be more square and games would be less exciting compared to 3v3.&nbsp; It would probably entail a lot more work for Ladna and much of the current IDL wad would need to be thrown out and all of it would need to be reconsidered as these maps were picked for 3v3 not 4v4.&nbsp; This would take a while at least, but I think would certainly be doable if it was started soon and received consistent attention.&nbsp; <br /><br />[center][b]Forfeits for Uneven Games[/b][/center]<br /><br />I am not sure about this in my mind, it seems to undermine our power play rules as unfair if we take the stance that anything less than 3v3 is stupid.&nbsp; Since the power play penalty can actually create a 3v2 scenario, perhaps this needs to be addressed or changed.<br /><br />[center][b]OTHER[/b][/center]<br /><br />It is nice to see some fresh ideas from metalblack and some others, I hope this continues some more.&nbsp; There is certainly nowhere near the amount of feedback one might expect from the volume of complaints that can be seen and heard around the league and in private ctf, practices, games, etc.&nbsp; One might wonder why these complaints are even addressed at all, since these idea threads always end up being the same 4-5 people trying to make things better while the complainers just complain as much as possible without seeming to want improvement.<br /><br />I like where this thread is going, it has helped me compose some of my thoughts into what I hope is a positive train of thought, maybe it can help some others build upon it.<br /><br />Nostar:&nbsp; I am not sure if what I am doing is complaining or unwanted, it isn&#039;t meant as that but purely as a form of feedback, I know I appreciate everything you and Ladna have done but I cannot speak for everybody.&nbsp; If it is something you dislike or wish to cease hearing just tell me and I will never mention TT again.