Blair I think you are trying too hard. First off, what on earth are &quot;apprentices&quot; when it comes to trying to make worthwhile CTF maps? If I were simply looking for a bunch of yes-man answers or only positive comments when testing, I simply wouldn&#039;t have done so to begin with. The fact that other people actively tested and offered more than just &quot;help, I can get spawn camped!&quot; means they were already over that fact of Doom life and made suggestions on more important gameplay aspects.<br /><br />Second, it&#039;s no coincidence the fact there are people like you in this league--now or ever--is a bigger indicator of this league&#039;s probable demise :D