[quote]Is the IDL that desperate for captains that you don&#039;t screen people&#039;s history or reliability? Is it the whole, &quot;Zan/ZD/Doomworld, is over there,&quot; isolationism finally eroding you into thinking otherwise? I think it&#039;s about time people finally put their ear to the ground for a change and stop treating these separate communities as if they aren&#039;t apart of the entire Doom community.[/quote]<br />I don&#039;t quite understand what you are saying. Are you saying we should heed the antics players carry out in other ports as warnings? I personally agree although once again I have nothing to do with who plays and who doesn&#039;t. If it were my way, there would be a lengthy unwanted/banished list on the site. I will point out that someone&#039;s past doesn&#039;t always hold up. For example, Arrogance/Marine was a cheater in his early days but he eventually became a legitimately skilled player in his own right, he even beat Dev at a LAN. Whiteboy was an obnoxious, pretentious little prick during the mid 00s. But he had changed by the time I returned in 2010 and was pretty much a staple of the league&#039;s playerbase while he was around. I can see how Ten was given a chance to cap. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s as cut and dry as you are making it to be.<br /><br /><br />We are part of the same Doom community but there are underlying differences that prevent us from peacefully coexisting. The level of competitiveness and commitment between IDL (composed of players primarily from ZDaemon) and Zandronum is vastly different. All the crazy antics that take place regularly in ST/Zan (especially in the leagues and tournaments over there) don&#039;t fly around here (nor did they back on ZD). Fighting and trolling takes place on the servers and finishes on irc or occasionally the forums. Majority of the time it isn&#039;t even serious. From what I&#039;ve seen on Zan, these things become quite personal to the point where people&#039;s personal lives get involved and it gets dragged around where ever there&#039;s a chance for it to flourish.<br /><br />From what I understand, IDL and Zan are just two different environments that have yet to reach a common ground. The port itself is fine and Torr is a great developer who has no problem with listening to players that have input to make it a better port. Oda, the current home of IDL, is just as open to input. Dr. Sean is a very approachable guy and anyone is welcome to drop input in Oda Central. The problem has nothing to do with Port X or Port Y. It&#039;s just a clash of two different cultures that causes this appearance of &#039;isolation&#039; aka Us vs Them.