[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2038#msg2038 date=1278744924]<br />So franchising prevented mike from suddenly disappearing for god knows what come our IDC Championship match?&nbsp; Er...no offense to mike, but no it didn&#039;t. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />Okay, well basically what happened here is the entire day SUC was saying they couldn&#039;t play at the arranged time which was Sunday at 7 or something?&nbsp; I spoke to Tai and our entire team and spoke to SUC and we pretty much all agreed Monday was fine for both teams and then I had other things to do that night.&nbsp; 20 minutes before the game started, SUC came on and said the game was on because their player actually showed up, even though we agreed to play on Monday<br /><br />I am not too upset about that, ultimately Tai made some mistakes that season picking poor maps for oath and myself to play and generally as a team we did poorly.&nbsp; But I had things to attend to and we did reschedule the match with both teams, I am still sort of confused as to why it was still played Sunday after we agreed to Monday.&nbsp; I can&#039;t really blame SUC, they saw an opening and seized it, that is one of the few maps I am relatively good at and Oath/Tai/Dev barely got in 1-2 practice games that week.&nbsp; It was pretty stupid but in the past now as I am concerned.<br /><br />[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2038#msg2038 date=1278744924]<br />And BSK...you say they have 3 wins; you mean 3 wins and a tie. That&#039;s not terrible in 5 weeks, no matter how you try to downplay how they got them. I mean, everyone&#039;s gotta play DMR eventually, you know. And I already told you about Shadow.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />BSK was the leagues front runner I felt like, we came into week 3 and had a pretty quick 2 round game due to what I think was a poor positioning arrangement.&nbsp; Not something you really expect from the &quot;top&quot; team , I think jenny is still getting into it and they will continue to improve as the season goes on.&nbsp; Certainly 3-1-1 is not bad, but did anybody expect them to do worse than 5-0??<br /><br />[quote author=Tai link=topic=232.msg2038#msg2038 date=1278744924]<br />If Rus having a life means he&#039;s only showing up intermittenly, I may have to sign up for a life. Er...LB sure showed up in prac against you on Map20! 8 ) It seems FLS merely changed hands as far as captain as opposed to &quot;lose&quot; it. Unless they just suck for the rest of the season, I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s a big deal. It&#039;s not like they traded someone over night like some teams did. Same for Ladna taking a week off; assuming it was vacation, god forbid someone does that in the summer. I mean, are you suggesting he doesn&#039;t take this week off if franchising was in place?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />There isn&#039;t much you can do.&nbsp; The only reason BBC has managed to cope is because we have Mid and Collision, two pretty awesome players who are generally around when the other isn&#039;t.&nbsp; Mid has probably taken 3 vacations so far this season and we have managed to still win because Collision is great and we do not have to use a player like Fluffles or something.&nbsp; I love fluffs but I am not going to lie and say he can compete at this level in that capacity.&nbsp; Really you are all dumb for not picking Collision since he is better than most players in the league and was stigmatized by Ralphis and Xenaero mostly.&nbsp; Another extremely underrated pick was X-Ray, I think he went late(?) second round when he should have possibly been early second round or even late first round.<br /><br />FLS is in a tough problem because they need their top 3 to have anything going on.&nbsp; If any one of those 3 players can&#039;t handle it, FLS bombs.&nbsp; The fourth isn&#039;t smart enough or good enough to fill the others shoes because its someone inexperienced or just not that good.&nbsp; Meanwhile Rus is relatively inexperienced I feel still, and Lordbritish is only really good on a handful of maps that suit his style.&nbsp; Poor luck of the draw I guess, I still think FLS is a great team, LBs maneuver, (I will call it the LB from now on) of getting Rus to captain is an exciting prospect, we will see if he sticks around.&nbsp; Also they did trade Wraithverge for Tony almost immediately, maybe you didn&#039;t notice or just didn&#039;t care since it was the 4th player.<br /><br />[quote author=Jenova link=topic=232.msg2041#msg2041 date=1278771508]<br />Franchises gave potential opportunity to have phenomenally skilled players all reside on one team. I&#039;m unsure exactly how draft order is decided (presumably not by skill) but simply put this allows for stacked teams. It would essentially enable one captain to obtain their two top picks with little interference. You could have a really good captain such as Nostar or Ralphis franchise someone like whiteboy, and still be eligible for a high ranking pick. This doesn&#039;t exactly favour new IDL captains, or captains who have a &quot;bad record&quot; with previous seasons. I&#039;m almost positive that nobody would have actually wanted to franchise with me, which would result in the same captains getting the same good players over and over.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I have mostly been pretty against franchising since the second or third season.&nbsp; It is a neat idea but ultimately I think its a little too competitive and/or gay when you couple that with Jkist&#039;s selective playing.&nbsp; We can all just halfass IDL unless we get on the one team we like/think has the best chance of winning but that just means you are a bunch of pussies.&nbsp; I do not think franchising was broken, I think it was players abusing it combined with the staleness that made it something to be removed.&nbsp; Jkist will tell you he tried on SPE before being traded to SUC but it sounds like a bunch of baloney to me, he mostly refused to practice saying he was too busy, or avoiding SPE practice to go play with SUC instead.&nbsp; He showed up and played for games, but I doubt he really tried to his potential like on SUC.<br /><br />If that is what it comes down to, I would much rather trade a few players who are too selfish to play with a different team for some less great but more exciting games.&nbsp; FLS/BBC and BSK/SUC were probably the best games I have seen/played in all IDL.&nbsp; I enjoy this so far, you have one poor team with Goatface, who made some mistakes but learned a lesson.&nbsp; You have about 7 other competitive teams now who could all seriously change the rankings around.&nbsp; What is wrong here??&nbsp; Its not like I am afraid of SUC or something, you simply had 3 extremely good players on one team because one player played as well as a 4th instead of a second due to gayness.&nbsp; They are beatable of course, but do you really want to wait until a team of two firsts and a third manages to beat them?&nbsp; Sounds sort of boring to me, let them have their trophies and statistical wins, the only relatively equal team in terms of skill they managed to beat was DMR and look how close those games were, both with some controversy I might add :)&nbsp; If that is what the league wants then that is cool I guess, I am not interested in that sort of league is all, not a big loss.<br /><br />[quote author=Jenova link=topic=232.msg2041#msg2041 date=1278771508]<br />I&#039;m not saying that it&#039;s a bad feature, franchising gives a lot to look forward to. You can play on a team with your friend, or a dependent player who you know will show up.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I would agree basically, it was a more competitive IDL, but something in my mind that couldn&#039;t last.&nbsp; To excel IDL needs to bring in more new players and more talents and combine them all, rather then condensing its talents and shutting its doors to new players or becoming something that is far too competitive for newer players to have a chance.&nbsp; You just can&#039;t bring Souler into franchise level IDL play.&nbsp; These new players need to play, even if they lose, they aren&#039;t going to stick around to warm our benches (except a few notables like Killemall, Gayrossman :), other assorted IW dudes)&nbsp; The idea is interesting but probably needs some more refinement to really work as well as intended.&nbsp; Ultimately it is the captains fault for failing, but should we cover our eyes and say one day it will be better or should we adapt the league to the current circumstances and try to promote growth and change?