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CREATE SEQUENCE idlsmf_message_icons_seq START WITH 13;

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  filename varchar(80) NOT NULL default ''::character varying,
  id_board smallint NOT NULL default (0)::smallint,
  icon_order smallint NOT NULL default (0)::smallint
);
ALTER TABLE idlsmf_message_icons ADD PRIMARY KEY (id_icon);
CREATE INDEX idlsmf_message_icons_id_board ON idlsmf_message_icons USING btree (id_board);;

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-- Dumping data in `idlsmf_message_icons`
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VALUES 
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	(id_icon, title, filename, id_board, icon_order)
VALUES 
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	(id_icon, title, filename, id_board, icon_order)
VALUES 
	(3, 'Thumb Down', 'thumbdown', 0, 2);
INSERT INTO idlsmf_message_icons
	(id_icon, title, filename, id_board, icon_order)
VALUES 
	(4, 'Exclamation point', 'exclamation', 0, 3);
INSERT INTO idlsmf_message_icons
	(id_icon, title, filename, id_board, icon_order)
VALUES 
	(5, 'Question mark', 'question', 0, 4);
INSERT INTO idlsmf_message_icons
	(id_icon, title, filename, id_board, icon_order)
VALUES 
	(6, 'Lamp', 'lamp', 0, 5);
INSERT INTO idlsmf_message_icons
	(id_icon, title, filename, id_board, icon_order)
VALUES 
	(7, 'Smiley', 'smiley', 0, 6);
INSERT INTO idlsmf_message_icons
	(id_icon, title, filename, id_board, icon_order)
VALUES 
	(8, 'Angry', 'angry', 0, 7);
INSERT INTO idlsmf_message_icons
	(id_icon, title, filename, id_board, icon_order)
VALUES 
	(9, 'Cheesy', 'cheesy', 0, 8);
INSERT INTO idlsmf_message_icons
	(id_icon, title, filename, id_board, icon_order)
VALUES 
	(10, 'Grin', 'grin', 0, 9);
INSERT INTO idlsmf_message_icons
	(id_icon, title, filename, id_board, icon_order)
VALUES 
	(11, 'Sad', 'sad', 0, 10);
INSERT INTO idlsmf_message_icons
	(id_icon, title, filename, id_board, icon_order)
VALUES 
	(12, 'Wink', 'wink', 0, 11);-- --------------------------------------------------------

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-- Table structure for table `idlsmf_messages`
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CREATE SEQUENCE idlsmf_messages_seq START WITH 10141;

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  id_board smallint NOT NULL default (0)::smallint,
  poster_time integer NOT NULL default 0,
  id_member integer NOT NULL default 0,
  id_msg_modified integer NOT NULL default 0,
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  poster_name varchar(255) NOT NULL,
  poster_email varchar(255) NOT NULL,
  poster_ip varchar(255) NOT NULL,
  smileys_enabled smallint NOT NULL default (1)::smallint,
  modified_time integer NOT NULL default 0,
  modified_name varchar(255) NOT NULL,
  body text NOT NULL,
  icon varchar(16) NOT NULL default 'xx'::character varying,
  approved smallint NOT NULL default (1)::smallint
);
ALTER TABLE idlsmf_messages ADD PRIMARY KEY (id_msg);
CREATE INDEX idlsmf_messages_approved ON idlsmf_messages USING btree (approved);
CREATE UNIQUE INDEX idlsmf_messages_id_board ON idlsmf_messages USING btree (id_board, id_msg);
CREATE UNIQUE INDEX idlsmf_messages_id_member ON idlsmf_messages USING btree (id_member, id_msg);
CREATE INDEX idlsmf_messages_id_topic ON idlsmf_messages USING btree (id_topic);
CREATE INDEX idlsmf_messages_ip_index ON idlsmf_messages USING btree (poster_ip, id_topic);
CREATE INDEX idlsmf_messages_participation ON idlsmf_messages USING btree (id_member, id_topic);
CREATE INDEX idlsmf_messages_show_posts ON idlsmf_messages USING btree (id_member, id_board);
CREATE UNIQUE INDEX idlsmf_messages_topic ON idlsmf_messages USING btree (id_topic, id_msg);;

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-- Dumping data in `idlsmf_messages`
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INSERT INTO idlsmf_messages
	(id_msg, id_topic, id_board, poster_time, id_member, id_msg_modified, subject, poster_name, poster_email, poster_ip, smileys_enabled, modified_time, modified_name, body, icon, approved)
VALUES 
	(1, 1, 1, 1230057388, 0, 1, 'Welcome to SMF!', 'Simple Machines', 'info@simplemachines.org', '127.0.0.1', 1, 0, '', 'Welcome to Simple Machines Forum!<br /><br />We hope you enjoy using your forum.&nbsp; If you have any problems, please feel free to [url=http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php]ask us for assistance[/url].<br /><br />Thanks!<br />Simple Machines', 'xx', 1);
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	(id_msg, id_topic, id_board, poster_time, id_member, id_msg_modified, subject, poster_name, poster_email, poster_ip, smileys_enabled, modified_time, modified_name, body, icon, approved)
VALUES 
	(2, 2, 2, 1212520589, 1, 6, 'Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1212635539, 'nostar', '[b][size=16pt]Official Servers for Week 1 of IDL Season IV[/size][/b]<br /><br />[color=red][b][International Doom League Week 1 - ZDCTF07 - A][/b]<br />69.64.49.142:11022<br />Password= seasonfour[/color]<br /><br />[color=blue][b][International Doom League Week 1 - ZDCTF07 - B][/b]<br />69.64.49.142:11032<br />Password= seasonfour[/color]<br /><br />Feel free to post your predictions, comments and arrangements here.<br /><br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(id_msg, id_topic, id_board, poster_time, id_member, id_msg_modified, subject, poster_name, poster_email, poster_ip, smileys_enabled, modified_time, modified_name, body, icon, approved)
VALUES 
	(3, 2, 2, 1212523704, 2, 3, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '70.102.121.145', 1, 0, '', 'i think nostars team will lose because he sux', 'xx', 1);
INSERT INTO idlsmf_messages
	(id_msg, id_topic, id_board, poster_time, id_member, id_msg_modified, subject, poster_name, poster_email, poster_ip, smileys_enabled, modified_time, modified_name, body, icon, approved)
VALUES 
	(4, 2, 2, 1212524145, 4, 4, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '68.62.47.157', 1, 0, '', 'woo forums', 'xx', 1);
INSERT INTO idlsmf_messages
	(id_msg, id_topic, id_board, poster_time, id_member, id_msg_modified, subject, poster_name, poster_email, poster_ip, smileys_enabled, modified_time, modified_name, body, icon, approved)
VALUES 
	(5, 3, 3, 1212599394, 1, 9, 'Rules and Guidelines', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1212744944, 'nostar', '[u][color=black][b][size=18pt]Hello and Welcome to the International Doom League Forums![/size][/b][/color][/u]<br /><br />[color=red][b][size=10pt]Here are the terms and bylaws governing this forum:[/size][/b][/color]<br /><br />[size=10pt][b]NO OBSCENE LANGUAGE[/b][/size]<br />This board is intended for league use. Please refrain from using excessively vulgar language that would offend me. If I have to edit yr posts at all I&#039;ll be very unhappy. Seriously I&#039;m hard to offend.<br /><br />[size=10pt][b]NO OBSCENE MATERIAL[/b][/size]<br />Please, no pornographic material or links to it. Post that shit on Dragan&#039;s site.<br /><br />[b][size=10pt]NO PERSONAL INSULTS OR ATTACKS[/size][/b]<br />Honestly these are usually funny, but keep it above the ankles.<br /><br />[b][size=10pt]TROLLING, FLAME WARS OR &quot;TRASH TALKING&quot;[/size][/b]<br />Go ahead, but make yr own thread ffs.<br /><br />[b][size=10pt]POST IN THE APPROPRIATE FORUM[/size][/b]<br />If you exhibit extreme retardation I&#039;ll probably just limit you to posting once a week.<br /><br />[b][size=10pt]NO DUPLICATE OR REPEAT POSTS[/size][/b]<br />If no-one answers your question or responds to your post, please &quot;bump&quot; it rather than posting it again. Posting the same question over and over or in every forum will just annoy people and will not get answers.<br /><br />[b][size=10pt]USE APPROPRIATE TITLES[/size][/b]<br />When mikehail invites you to #gaysex he is serious.<br /><br />[b][size=10pt]NO ILLEGAL SUGGESTIONS[/size][/b]<br />Respect the copyrights of other people, websites, software and printed media. Please no pointers, how-to’s, advocating any illegal activity. Posts regarding such things as warez, crackz etc. will be deleted and the user banned.<br /><br />[b][size=10pt]NO SPAM[/size][/b]<br />Do not use this site as a redirector or gateway to another site for the purpose of collecting click income or advertising. Although there are times when a link to another site is necessary for helping or answering a question, I reserves the right to determine what is and is not spam. Any spam will be immediately deleted and the user banned.<br /><br />[b][size=10pt]PRIVACY[/size][/b]<br />You must respect the privacy of other members and individuals. Do not post personal information (i.e. addresses, phone numbers, passwords, personal identification numbers, or any other information considered private) without the express permission of the individual.<br /><br />[b][size=10pt]WRAP[/size][/b]<br />I reserve the right to delete anything but probably won&#039;t because I am really really really lazy.', 'xx', 1);
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	(id_msg, id_topic, id_board, poster_time, id_member, id_msg_modified, subject, poster_name, poster_email, poster_ip, smileys_enabled, modified_time, modified_name, body, icon, approved)
VALUES 
	(6, 2, 2, 1212632737, 16, 6, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '64.252.75.103', 1, 0, '', 'MY TEAM WILL BUTTSECKS THE OTHER ONE LOLZ', 'xx', 1);
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	(id_msg, id_topic, id_board, poster_time, id_member, id_msg_modified, subject, poster_name, poster_email, poster_ip, smileys_enabled, modified_time, modified_name, body, icon, approved)
VALUES 
	(7, 2, 2, 1212639213, 17, 7, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '75.207.7.222', 1, 0, '', 'Mullins is awarding the key to the city to whoever wins [RNB] vs. [CRK]&nbsp; :P<br />', 'xx', 1);
INSERT INTO idlsmf_messages
	(id_msg, id_topic, id_board, poster_time, id_member, id_msg_modified, subject, poster_name, poster_email, poster_ip, smileys_enabled, modified_time, modified_name, body, icon, approved)
VALUES 
	(8, 2, 2, 1212693657, 19, 8, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '12.159.3.116', 1, 0, '', 'Hey, didn&#039;t the previous season start off with zd07 too? Where is da [b]VARIETY[/b]?!?', 'xx', 1);
INSERT INTO idlsmf_messages
	(id_msg, id_topic, id_board, poster_time, id_member, id_msg_modified, subject, poster_name, poster_email, poster_ip, smileys_enabled, modified_time, modified_name, body, icon, approved)
VALUES 
	(9, 2, 2, 1212694537, 16, 9, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '64.252.102.61', 1, 0, '', 'Every season&#039;s started with 07. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(id_msg, id_topic, id_board, poster_time, id_member, id_msg_modified, subject, poster_name, poster_email, poster_ip, smileys_enabled, modified_time, modified_name, body, icon, approved)
VALUES 
	(10, 2, 2, 1212774283, 21, 10, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'Albatross', 'iglahn@gmail.com', '76.93.100.71', 1, 0, '', 'h8 map 07.&nbsp; where is map 11?&nbsp; OH GOD WHERE IS MAP 11??&nbsp; but srsly enough of this arbitrary map determination intended to squelch out the proleteriat, pigs.<br /><br />btw wtg on restoring the forums / no necessary registration verification / preserving the url / etcetc.', 'xx', 1);
INSERT INTO idlsmf_messages
	(id_msg, id_topic, id_board, poster_time, id_member, id_msg_modified, subject, poster_name, poster_email, poster_ip, smileys_enabled, modified_time, modified_name, body, icon, approved)
VALUES 
	(11, 4, 2, 1212815067, 1, 30, 'Demo Upload Engine', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1213009052, 'nostar', '[size=12pt]Introduction[/size]<br /><br />A month or so ago Ralphis and I were talking about ways to simplify the posting process for the league.<br />One idea that sort of stood out was the concept of a demo uploading form, to eliminate the use of things like RapidShare, SpeedyShare, endless FTP renaming and things like that. Since my SQL sucks I talked with Ladna about maybe setting up a database and form for this concept and he managed to come up with this:<br /><br />[b]http://www.intldoomleague.org/demos[/b]<br /><br />[size=12pt]How it works:[/size]<br /><br />YOU WILL HAVE TO BE ADDED TO THE DATABASE!<br />This was not made clear and I apologize for that. Once you sign up for the forums Ladna or I will add you to the demo upload database and it will auto-name/archive yr demo. This should be easy after all the people involved in IDL sign-up for the forums.<br /><br />The form fields are fairly self-explanatory. Sign-in with your forum account, select the week of play, and submit.<br />If you make a mistake in week selection upload again correctly and contact me for a deletion. Simple enough.<br />Don&#039;t make mistakes, I hate SQL!<br /><br />The file format preferred is .zdo but if you have multiple demos compression is fine too.<br />If you zip/rar/tar/gzip/7z yr files check the box labeled [color=red]&quot;File is an archive&quot;[/color]<br /><br />DO NOT INCLUDE SCREEN SHOTS. This is just a demo upload engine only.<br /><br />Now since this is a database all activity will be logged. So don&#039;t upload ridiculous shit.&nbsp; If anything malicious shows up I&#039;ll be hassled and you&#039;ll be banned. No joke about that.<br /><br />Okay, fuck RapidShare and that&#039;s that!', 'xx', 1);
INSERT INTO idlsmf_messages
	(id_msg, id_topic, id_board, poster_time, id_member, id_msg_modified, subject, poster_name, poster_email, poster_ip, smileys_enabled, modified_time, modified_name, body, icon, approved)
VALUES 
	(12, 2, 2, 1212815540, 1, 12, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', 'Agreed maps should be voted on. EVERYTHING SHOULD BE VOTED ON.<br />Consult your local Ralphis to complain. He&#039;s usually got reasons for stuff.<br /><br />Also, after initial signups the account authentication will be turned on. I just didn&#039;t wanna be bothered with okay-ing the IDL participants seeing as the Forums were already late into Week1.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(id_msg, id_topic, id_board, poster_time, id_member, id_msg_modified, subject, poster_name, poster_email, poster_ip, smileys_enabled, modified_time, modified_name, body, icon, approved)
VALUES 
	(13, 2, 2, 1212845839, 10, 13, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Albatross link=topic=2.msg10#msg10 date=1212774283]<br />h8 map 07.&nbsp; where is map 11?&nbsp; OH GOD WHERE IS MAP 11??&nbsp; but srsly enough of this arbitrary map determination intended to squelch out the proleteriat, pigs.<br /><br />btw wtg on restoring the forums / no necessary registration verification / preserving the url / etcetc.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Map07 hating aside, map11 is banned from the league because of unbalanced symmetry. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(1096, 134, 10, 1252647288, 7, 1096, 'Re: Summer 2009: Praise &amp; Criticism', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '98.223.194.133', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=134.msg1090#msg1090 date=1252416302]<br />This is the polar opposite of how Doom maps are laid out. Not one is the same, requiring drastically different play and strategy in comparison. Can you imagine if this was true with each and every sports stadium? There&#039;d be so much complaining about that system being slanted it would be ridiculous, and as far as sports tend to go with rules and regulations, it&#039;d likely be &quot;one game here, one game there, tiebreaker here&quot; sort of thing.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I definitely agree with Xenaero here, the idea of &quot;homefields&quot; in other sports is nothing like the idea of &quot;homefields&quot; in IDL.&nbsp; Yeah I know there&#039;s differences like weather/climate, field dimensions (what the fuck MLB....) flooring/turf, and I certainly don&#039;t mean to trivialize those differences; look at home/away percentages and you can tell they&#039;re significant.&nbsp; But no one changes where the goddamn goal is.&nbsp; No one puts a huge fucking pit in a different spot.&nbsp; I don&#039;t even know what to compare spawn points &amp; weapon spawns to... jump/face-off/kick-off?&nbsp; Map selection is huge, case closed.&nbsp; It&#039;s the reason teams fight for that advantage during the regular season.&nbsp; On the other hand teams can easily practice homefields.&nbsp; There&#039;s only 3 potential homefields you&#039;ll ever have to play on, and you know them way before the playoffs start.&nbsp; So in that respect it&#039;s not nearly as bad as sports homefields.<br /><br />Now Ralphis pointed out that there&#039;s quite a few notable upsets.&nbsp; But I think he didn&#039;t really say enough about that.&nbsp; Upsets are fucking awesome!&nbsp; When VGR upset PAK it was HUGE.&nbsp; Like, the universe almost exploded huge.&nbsp; Whenever I&#039;m thinking about some of the stuff that makes IDL unfair, I think of how teams have overcome that unfairness and created some epic moments.&nbsp; Yeah, on paper it seems dumb, and it keeps IDL from being some mathematical equation that reduces down to the best team, but it&#039;s just more exciting this way.<br /><br />In fact, when I take Ralphis&#039; post into consideration, I personally don&#039;t see homefield as oppressive.&nbsp; Maybe the sample set isn&#039;t large enough to show a definitive trend.&nbsp; I think that if enough players/captains saw it as a ridiculous advantage the board would take action (something like a homefield pool or Tai&#039;s idea), but I haven&#039;t heard that yet.&nbsp; Maybe I&#039;ll put a poll up or something... or someone else could do it ;) .&nbsp; Also I&#039;ll just say that functionally speaking, the playoff map pool would probably be between 3-5 maps, which is greater than or equal to the number of maps that teams aspiring to the playoffs would have to practice.&nbsp; The only thing it might resolve is a team&#039;s advantage/disadvantage on 1 map, but there&#039;s a chance that, say, you&#039;ll play SUC on map08 anyway.&nbsp; In some cases I suppose that&#039;s good, because then you can choose to not waste time practicing that map.&nbsp; However, giving away a round before you even start seems pretty tough - and mixed in with 3/5... we&#039;re talking about a lot of maps.<br /><br />[quote author=Nostar]Hey do signups, it&#039;ll be GRRRRRRRRRRRR8![/quote]<br /><br />I love the idea of a CTF tourney.&nbsp; IDL isn&#039;t one though.&nbsp; I&#039;ll be happy to setup site stuff for it if someone wants to do it.<br /><br />[quote]Outlaw trading!&nbsp; Fuck Nero/SUC/Tenchu/Donut blahblahblah![/quote]<br /><br />Trading is awesome and great.&nbsp; The only problem with it is that players take it personally - not that I blame them.&nbsp; Even if we outlaw trading, we can&#039;t keep captains from failing.&nbsp; If it&#039;s not a bad trade, it&#039;ll be something else (bad draft, bad strategy, no practicing, no communication, etc. etc. etc.).<br /><br />[quote]Even if we do 3/5, we should leave reg. season matches the way they are.[/quote]<br /><br />I dislike changing rules between regular season &amp; playoffs - even though there are already some differences (tie breaks, homefields).&nbsp; Strategy is quite different from 2/3 to 3/5.&nbsp; And now that I&#039;m thinking about it, if we keep the same tie break rules, 3/5 games could become serious grinds.&nbsp; I mean, right now playoff games are first team to 2 rounds.&nbsp; First team to 3 could be a lot of rounds, placing a greater emphasis on endurance.&nbsp; ...Maaaaaaaybe the board would institute a continuance rule where we limit the number of rounds to 6 or something, but still it seems ridiculous.<br /><br />[quote]OVERTIME?!?! Who runs these POS servers?[/quote]<br /><br />I have to say I don&#039;t hate overtime.&nbsp; It might make games more offensive.&nbsp; Ties are lame anyway.', 'xx', 1);
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	(id_msg, id_topic, id_board, poster_time, id_member, id_msg_modified, subject, poster_name, poster_email, poster_ip, smileys_enabled, modified_time, modified_name, body, icon, approved)
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	(6883, 671, 22, 1337834178, 89, 6883, 'Re: S2012 Invite List', 'Solar_Flare', 'cdstrangle@gmail.com', '70.241.30.157', 1, 0, '', 'I decline', 'xx', 1);
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	(id_msg, id_topic, id_board, poster_time, id_member, id_msg_modified, subject, poster_name, poster_email, poster_ip, smileys_enabled, modified_time, modified_name, body, icon, approved)
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	(132, 16, 2, 1214910669, 23, 132, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Nautilus', 'knotilus@myway.com', '96.240.133.74', 1, 0, '', 'Dude, you forgot fuckin&#039; Tony. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(14, 5, 2, 1212868651, 10, 222, 'Free Agents - Trade History - MSD Standings - Demo Infractions', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 1217790778, 'Ralphis', '[size=20pt][b]IDL Free Agency[/b][/size]<br /><br />Climhazzard (Traded from BBS)<br />DragonClaw<br />HellAwaits<br />Kory<br />RussianDumbass<br /><br />[b]SUMMER 2008 TRADE HISTORY[/b]<br /><br />[size=18pt][color=blue]International Doom Conference[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Bang Bros (BBS)<br />1. Traded Climhazzard to Free Agency; Traded Brainthunk from Free Agency<br />2.<br />3.<br />*Mass Destruction (MAD)<br />1.<br />2.<br />3.<br />*Reign in Blood (RNB)<br />1.<br />2.<br />3.<br />*Hot Wax Bandits (HWB)<br />1. Traded Bolt to Free Agency; Traded RedShirt from Free Agency<br />2. Traded Homefield map pick to CRK in exchange for CRK&#039;s Homefield map pick + DPT&#039;s midseason pick<br />3. Traded Bolt + midseason pick to WAD in exchange for Kandy Kid<br />*Frag Fags &amp; Flag (FFF)<br />1.<br />2.<br />3.<br />*Cereal Killers (CRK)<br />1. Traded Midian to DPT for Caller + RNB&#039;s midseason pick<br />2. Traded DPT&#039;s midseason pick + CRK&#039;s Homefield map pick to HWB in exchange for HWB&#039;s Homefield map pick<br />3.<br /><br />[size=18pt][color=red]World Doom Conference[/color][/size]<br /><br />*ContraBanned (CTB)<br />1.<br />2.<br />3.<br />*Cookie Monsters (TCM)<br />1. Traded Homefield map pick to DPT in exchange for DPT&#039;s Homefield map pick + RNB&#039;s midseason pick<br />2. Traded Hatred + RNB&#039;s midseason pick to CUP in exchange for Iceykiller + CUP&#039;s midseason pick<br />3.<br />*We&#039;re All Doomed (WAD)<br />1. Traded Kandy Kid to HWB for Bolt + HWB&#039;s midseason pick<br />2.<br />3.<br />*Lords of Nigeria (LON)<br />1.<br />2.<br />3.<br />*Deep Thrusts (DPT)<br />1. Received Midian from CRK in exchange for Caller + RNB&#039;s midseason pick<br />2. Traded DPT&#039;s Homefield map pick + RNB&#039;s midseason pick in exchange for TCM&#039;s Homefield map pick<br />3.<br />*Cupid Stunts (CUP)<br />1. Traded Iceykiller + CUP&#039;s midseason pick to TCM in exchange for Hatred + RNB&#039;s midseason pick<br />2.<br />3.<br /><br />[size=20pt][b]Mid-Season Draft Standings - Week 5[/b][/size]<br /><br />.000		LON<br />.125		CRK<br />.250		WAD (Traded from HWB)<br />.333		BBS<br />.375		TCM<br />.500		MAD<br />.500		HWB (Traded from DPT) --&gt; (Traded from CRK)<br />.625		TCM (Traded from CUP)<br />.625		FFF<br />1.000		CUP (Traded from RNB) --&gt; (Traded from CRK) --&gt; (Traded from DPT) --&gt; (Traded from TCM)<br />1.000		CTB<br />1.000		WAD<br /><br />[size=20pt][b]Homefield Selection Order- Week 8[/b][/size]<br /><br />1. DPT (Traded from TCM) - [THIRTY13]<br />2. MAD - [ZDCTF09]<br />3. BBS - [ODA07]<br />4. WAD (Traded from HWB) --&gt; (Traded from CRK) - [ZDCTF24]<br />5. TCM (Traded from DPT) - [ODA04]<br />6. CUP - [ZDCTF01]<br />7. CRK (Traded from WAD) - [ZDCTF07]<br />8. FFF - [THIRTY19]<br />9. LON - [ZDCTF12]<br />10. RNB - [ZDCTF04]<br />11. HWB (Traded from CRK) - [ZDCTF14]<br />12. CTB - [THIRTY17]<br /><br /><br />[size=20pt][b]Demo Infractions[/b][/size]<br /><br />[b]CRK[/b]<br />Flowstone<br />1. Week 1 (Demo submitted, bad demo)<br /><br />[b]CUP[/b]<br />Sabertooth<br />1. Week 1 (No demo)<br /><br />[b]DPT[/b]<br />Envy<br />1. Week 1 (No demo)<br /><br />[b]FFF[/b]<br />Bloodstrike<br />1. Week 5 (Bad demo)<br />2. Week 6&nbsp; (Bad demo)<br /><br />[b]HWB[/b]<br />Bolt<br />1. Week 2 (No demo)<br /><br />[b]RNB[/b]<br />Fastidious<br />1. Week 6 (Corrupt Demo)', 'exclamation', 1);
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	(15, 2, 2, 1212870078, 24, 15, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'lockwolf', 'lockwolf@hotmail.com', '67.183.210.65', 1, 0, '', 'lets do this!', 'xx', 1);
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	(16, 2, 2, 1212896081, 8, 16, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@zdaemon.org', '70.19.190.165', 1, 0, '', '[color=red][b][size=10pt]Lords of Nigeria[/size][/b][/color] - 0<br /><br />Game 1: Lockwolf, RottKing, Killemall - 0<br />Game 2: Lockwolf, RottKing, Killemall - 0<br /><br />[color=blue][b][size=10pt]ContraBanned[/size][/b][/color] - 2<br /><br />Game 1: HumanBones, Ralphis, Martyr - 5<br />Game 2: HumanBones, Ralphis, Rhombus - 5<br /><br />Demos are accounted for in the archives. GG&#039;s!', 'xx', 1);
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	(17, 2, 2, 1212939263, 23, 17, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'Nautilus', 'knotilus@myway.com', '96.240.133.74', 1, 0, '', 'I AM PUMPED ', 'xx', 1);
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	(18, 2, 2, 1212981746, 1, 18, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', '[color=red][b][size=10pt]Cupid Stunts - 0[/size][/b][/color]<br /><br />Game 1: Shakal, Saber, IceyKiller - 0<br />Game 2: Shakal, Saber, IceyKiller - 1<br /><br />[b][size=10pt][color=blue]We&#039;re All Doomed - 2[/color][/size][/b]<br /><br />Game 1: Nostar, Kandy_Kid, Caboose - 2<br />Game 2: Nostar, Kandy_Kid, Caboose - 3<br /><br />GGS', 'xx', 1);
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	(19, 2, 2, 1212984945, 7, 27, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1212991301, 'Ladna', '[b][color=red]Hot Wax Bandits - 0[/color][/b]<br /><br />Tenchu, RedShirt: 1<br />Tenchu, RedShirt: 1<br /><br />[b][color=blue]Bang Bros. - 2[/color][/b]<br /><br />Nautilus, Ladna: 5<br />Nautilus, Ladna: 3<br /><br />GGs', 'xx', 1);
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	(21, 6, 2, 1212986456, 10, 189, 'Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 1216620333, 'nostar', '[b][size=16pt]Official Servers for Week 2 of IDL Season IV[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][color=red][International Doom League Week 2 - ODA01 - A][/color][/b]<br />69.64.49.142:11022<br />Password= seasonfour<br /><br />[b][color=blue][International Doom League Week 2 - ODA01 - B][/color][/b]<br />69.64.49.142:11032<br />Password= seasonfour<br /><br />Post predictions, arrangements, and results here.<br /><br />[b]CAPTAINS, MAKE ARRANGEMENTS AND POST THE AGREED GAME TIME BY 11:59 EST TUESDAY NIGHT IN THIS THREAD.[/b]<br /><br />GAME TIMES<br />-------------------<br />CTB v DPT - Sun 4:00pm EDT<br />TCM v CUP - Sun 7:30pm EDT<br />WAD v LON - Sat 9:00pm EDT<br />BBS v FFF - Sun 10:00pm EDT<br />MAD v CRK - Sat 4:00pm EDT<br />RNB v HWB - Sun 7:00pm EDT', 'xx', 1);
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	(22, 2, 2, 1212986559, 22, 23, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '99.228.211.181', 1, 1212988715, 'nostar', '[size=10pt][b][color=blue]The Cookie Monsters - 1[/color][/b][/size]<br /><br />Game 1: Shadow, Mantis, Hateraid (Hatred) - 0 flags<br />Game 2: Shadow, Mantis, Hateraid - 0 flags<br />Game 3: Shadow, Mantis, Hateraid - 5 flags<br /><br />[size=10pt][b][color=red]Deep Thrusts - 0[/color][/b][/size]<br /><br />Game 1: Oath, Caller, ReXn0r - 0 flags<br />Game 2: Oath, Caller, ReXn0r - 0 flags<br />Game 3: Oath, Caller, Envy - 0 flags<br /><br />GG&#039;s<br /><br />My Demo: http://download.yousendit.com/7C734FE134F6959E<br />Mantis&#039; Demo: http://rapidshare.com/files/121123991/TCM_vs_DPT-Week1-ZDCTFMP-Map7-Mantis.zip.html<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(26, 2, 2, 1212990179, 4, 26, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '68.62.47.157', 1, 0, '', 'i hope this post meets nostar&#039;s approval D:<br /><br />My demo&#039;s accounted for in the upload site.', 'xx', 1);
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	(27, 2, 2, 1212991177, 1, 28, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1212993912, 'nostar', 'Okay so here&#039;s the deal-<br /><br />The problem with connections this Sunday was NOT a TotalTrash issue. An ISP servicing many Canadians (http://www.rogers.com/) had some routing issues going through the Chicago hub and connecting to TT. This explains why most people were pinging fine to TT and a few Canadians weren&#039;t. This is not to say that Shakal or Whiteboy are at fault; they are certainly not. Just to clarify any still confused.<br />And thanks to Silvertear and Deathbringer for their accommodations this week :)<br /><br />Tenchu: You waited until 1.5hrs after Week 1 ended to play yr game, then bitched about someone posting your forfeiture earlier (which was edited out). And while I realize that this has happened in the past, it&#039;s still very inconsiderate to your teammates and to the opposing team. And as an added bonus you&#039;ve decided to drag me into this, which is retarded. I contribute a lot to this league and don&#039;t appreciate being harassed. Stop it.<br /><br />Demo upload: If you are new to the forum you have to be added to the demo upload database. This week was an adjusting period and I realize this, but from now on you should all be using that.<br /><br />Hopefully future weeks will go smoother. Scheduling has been outlined in the next week&#039;s post so be sure to start scheduling BEFORE WEDNESDAY as to avoid the aforementioned turbulence.', 'xx', 1);
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	(908, 109, 10, 1245554326, 130, 908, 'Re: Ladna needs demos for the site', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.44', 1, 0, '', 'Denny has brain fungus and has sex with men a lot.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1097, 134, 10, 1252790934, 2, 1097, 'Re: Summer 2009: Praise &amp; Criticism', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.17.172', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ladna link=topic=134.msg1096#msg1096 date=1252647288]<br />[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=134.msg1090#msg1090 date=1252416302]<br />stuff<br />[/quote]<br /><br />more stuff<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Ok, I pretty much get what you guys are saying here and maybe the argument is legitimate, but the only way I would see to be fair is if playoffs are maps that are scheduled but really I think that is pretty unfair and unrewarding to teams that do well.&nbsp; We are trying to make teams competitive and fight for the top, if we don&#039;t have any reward for being awesome then we will see the better teams throwing games possibly to get a better draft pick next season since there is no reason to win except pride.&nbsp; Or perhaps someone has a better idea to set this up, but I think the current way is the best of all proposed solutions with the drafting/franchising system in place.&nbsp; But ideas are great regardless keep em coming!!<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna link=topic=134.msg1096#msg1096 date=1252647288]<br />Now Ralphis pointed out that there&#039;s quite a few notable upsets.&nbsp; But I think he didn&#039;t really say enough about that.&nbsp; Upsets are fucking awesome!&nbsp; When VGR upset PAK it was HUGE.&nbsp; Like, the universe almost exploded huge.&nbsp; Whenever I&#039;m thinking about some of the stuff that makes IDL unfair, I think of how teams have overcome that unfairness and created some epic moments.&nbsp; Yeah, on paper it seems dumb, and it keeps IDL from being some mathematical equation that reduces down to the best team, but it&#039;s just more exciting this way.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Now without trying to sound like a dick, I think any team can win any map given some good preparation and a solid idea.&nbsp; If you don&#039;t have a solid belief that your team can win any map given some time and effort, how do you expect to win a masterbowl?&nbsp; Ultimately a lot of teams do continue to play in the playoffs how they played in the regular season.&nbsp; Some of these big upsets like pak and vgr were actually split conferences and if I recall correctly the two never met before the playoff game.&nbsp; I would love to personally see IDL back to 12 teams and be able to play this out, unfortunately I think this wouldn&#039;t be very fun without having more teams to flesh out the conferences and keep things interesting.<br /><br />[quote]Outlaw trading!&nbsp; Fuck Nero/SUC/Tenchu/Donut blahblahblah![/quote]<br /><br />I think trading is one of the most important, if underused aspects in IDL.&nbsp; Teams have UNLIMITED TRADES in preseason, but I don&#039;t think any have really taken advantage of testing out all the meat IDL has to offer if they are leery of their 4th player.&nbsp; Very few team to team trades happen throughout the season, and most of the ones that do happen are incredibly reviled or have extremely negative consequences: see kandy being traded and caboose quitting wad, jkist being traded and fast quitting spe, etc, etc.&nbsp; Now you might say that many of these trades have a single factor in common, the nostar effect, and while I think it was really gay of him to dump mortal onto spe to get kist, since mortal is arguably better anyways, its his team and he has not only proven his skill as a captain, but continues to do so.&nbsp; Of course there is donut/tenchu and some others but desperate captains will do desperate things to get what they want.&nbsp; I think the league would be very stagnant and unfun without trading to relieve some of this steam.<br /><br />[quote]Even if we do 3/5, we should leave reg. season matches the way they are.[/quote]<br /><br />I agree its a pretty stupid idea, its like switching from nfl from a 100y field to a 200y field for playoffs, not at all what the players train all season and pre/postseason to do, I think its pretty unfair to set it up like this.<br /><br />[quote]OVERTIME?!?! Who runs these POS servers?[/quote]<br /><br />I also think overtime is an interesting idea, however I don&#039;t think we should be telling teams how they should play, that is up to them.<br /><br />also ladna smells like a dirt farmer :D', 'xx', 1);
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	(6275, 614, 20, 1329957846, 19, 6275, 'Re: Week 8 (FEB 20 - FEB 26) : ZDCTF09 (MAP09) - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '76.4.120.220', 1, 0, '', 'demos....yes....demos.....', 'xx', 1);
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	(7293, 715, 17, 1345261111, 216, 7293, 'Re: I''m banned', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '70.30.58.91', 1, 0, '', 'good work dew', 'xx', 1);
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	(2570, 288, 26, 1284597670, 0, 2570, 'Re: Lifetime leader stats', 'Fastidious', '', '76.217.101.170', 1, 0, '', 'Should post this too!', 'clip', 1);
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	(294, 26, 2, 1219940996, 7, 294, 'Re: IDL - A Look Ahead', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.29.37', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg291#msg291 date=1219870606]<br />If every team forced every 3v2 possible the league would be fucking lame.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />No, if player attendance was so bad that 3v2s were always necessary the league would be fucking lame.&nbsp; Mike&#039;s right, the problem isn&#039;t 3v2s.&nbsp; If you&#039;re in a situation where a team can&#039;t get more than 2 players on, the game&#039;s already fucked, and there&#039;s usually no good answer.&nbsp; Also, the game&#039;s probably already been pushed to 11pm Sunday, so you can&#039;t just postpone without bleeding into the next week... which is usually OK, but there has to be a cutoff somewhere.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg291#msg291 date=1219870606]<br />The fact is it&#039;s almost an unwritten rule to play 2v2s(as most teams do).<br />[/quote]<br /><br />&quot;Almost unwritten rules&quot; are useless (as you&#039;ve seen) because some players follow them and some don&#039;t.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg291#msg291 date=1219870606]<br />RNB played 2v2s when we had to because we have class(sup Nostar!).<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I don&#039;t see how getting personal will help sort out the &quot;unbalanced games&quot; issue.&nbsp; I can understand you think Nostar violated some &quot;almost unwritten code of conduct&quot;, but it&#039;s not really topical to talk about whatever Nostar did.&nbsp; And while I did bring up the ODA04 game as an example and to try and empathize with you and other captains who were on the short end of a 3v2, as well as explain my understanding of why unbalanced games are allowed, I did it to further the debate.&nbsp; I certainly didn&#039;t do it to assert some kind of moral superiority.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg291#msg291 date=1219870606]<br />The rules should be changed in many cases, it should not be a bullshit game of gotcha.&nbsp; I&#039;m happy you bring up real sports since almost never do real sports have teams anywhere near 100% vs 66% roster which is ridiculous.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Most teams have deep enough rosters to keep this from happening, but if a team was down to 2/3, they would probably just forfeit.&nbsp; And yeah, that&#039;s lame, but it&#039;s lame when players don&#039;t show up.&nbsp; Teams would also cut players with shitty attendance, because a mediocre player with 90-100% attendance is tons better than a stellar player with 20-30% attendance.&nbsp; Like I (and Mike) said, the issue is players not showing up.<br /><br />And yeah, there&#039;s a lot of similarities between the IDL and other sports leagues, but you&#039;re right in that there&#039;s differences in the actual &quot;sport&quot; we play.&nbsp; We definitely have to take that into account; statistically, 3v2s are about as good as starting the game off 1-0 in the other team&#039;s favor.&nbsp; That might be too harsh for our sport.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg291#msg291 date=1219870606]<br />Maybe in soccer or hockey one or a few will sit out but even then it does not approach the same harshness.&nbsp; Also in hockey power plays end on scores and in soccer it&#039;s much different with so many players with such a long and low scoring game.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I like the power play idea; like if you mess up a demo you have to sit for 2 minutes or until the opposite team scores.&nbsp; While it&#039;s not as harsh as sitting out a game (meaning cheaters might feel like it&#039;s worth it to cheat in a game, &quot;miss&quot; a demo, and sit out a couple minutes), it does err on the side of optimism and it&#039;s well balanced for different situations.&nbsp; For example, ODA04 is an extremely defensive map, so it&#039;s unlikely a team would score in the first two minutes... it&#039;s even possible for a 2 man team to hold down defense for two minutes while their 3rd&#039;s in the &quot;Penalty Box&quot;.&nbsp; On the other hand, flags happen a lot easier in ZDCTF04, so even if a penalized team goes down, getting a equalizer flag isn&#039;t completely out of the question.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg291#msg291 date=1219870606]<br />The IDL 3v2 is pointless and I think overall drags the league down a lot.&nbsp; Maybe if IDL power plays were more reasonable like a cap or a few it&#039;d be sensible but right now it can be a full match of both rounds which is plain ridiculous.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />It&#039;s obviously not pointless, I&#039;ve outlined clear reasons for it in my other posts.&nbsp; It&#039;s just a lame solution to a bad, complicated situation.&nbsp; IMO, Mike nailed it:<br /><br />[quote author=mikefails link=topic=26.msg288#msg288 date=1219865514]<br />Maybe I am confused, but if you are active, upload your demos, and don&#039;t be a dick about scheduling, what are the other issues?&nbsp; If everybody did this, would the admins have to change anything at all?<br />[/quote]', 'xx', 1);
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	(510, 56, 6, 1231536849, 7, 512, 'Re: Scheduling System', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.29.47', 1, 1231541321, 'Ladna', 'Hey!&nbsp; First, I want to thank you for putting time and thought into the scheduling system.&nbsp; We&#039;re always looking for ways to improve things, so all input is greatly appreciated.&nbsp; I&#039;m not being a dick when I ask people to come up with better ideas, we truly want the IDL to be the best it can be, and if anyone has ideas on how to make it better we want to hear them!<br /><br />I want to be as clear as possible about how the new scheduling system works, so I&#039;ll try and outline the process here:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]A new IDL week begins.[/li]<br />[li]Players inform their captain as to their availability.[/li]<br />[li]Captains look at their team&#039;s availability as a whole, and submit their available game times to the IDL commissioner.[/li]<br />[li]The IDL commissioner then selects a game time where both teams are available.[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />Of course, life happens, as do miscommunications.&nbsp; Either way, sometimes a declared game time becomes invalid.&nbsp; The rules are not explicit in this case, and the IDL board should make them explicit (we probably will before next week).&nbsp; Generally, however, the IDL commissioner makes a ruling.&nbsp; I don&#039;t speak for Ralphis but I know that he takes a couple things into account:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]How soon is the upcoming game - would it be too late to change the time?[/li]<br />[li]Player availability - some players have jobs, others live in the UK, is it fair to make them play at 2am?[/li]<br />[li]Team availability - sometimes there&#039;s no other viable game time.[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />There are 2 major reasons we do it this way, instead of doing it all in IRC or the forums where everyone can agree:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Prevents teams from using their &quot;availability&quot; against their opponents.[/li]<br />[li]Not everyone has to be online at the same time to set a game time.[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />I understand the appeal of getting everyone together and hashing out a game time, but for those 2 reasons I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s possible.<br /><br />I do like players posting their availability in the sign-up thread.&nbsp; In fact, Ralphis and I are working on some kind of scheduling interface where players can post their availability on the site, and then the commissioner can pick game times from that.&nbsp; If your availability changes, you would just change it on your profile.&nbsp; And from player availability we can get team availability, and from team availability we can get potential game times.&nbsp; We can also see if players are being punkasses and only available for 2 hours on 1 day or something.&nbsp; Also, players from other teams would be unable to view your availability, just your team &amp; the IDL commissioner.<br /><br />Another benefit of the web interface would be that you can change it from anywhere, at any time.&nbsp; So if a player does have some kind of emergency and for some reason they want to update their availability, they don&#039;t need IRC or some random crap, just a browser.<br /><br />I might setup some forum stuff (team availability threads) in the meantime, because the scheduling interface will be complicated to get right and we could use something in the meantime.<br /><br />EDIT:<br />The board has done 2 things:<br />&nbsp; - Made the scheduling system more explicit in the rules (http://www.intldoomleague.org/rules)<br />&nbsp; - Added a Rule Update board to the forums, so that rules don&#039;t get changed silently (which would be bitchass)', 'xx', 1);
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	(28, 2, 2, 1212991447, 10, 56, 'Re: Week 1 (June 2nd-8th) : ZDCTFMP07', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 1213685806, 'Ralphis', 'Demos Needed:<br /><br />ContraBanned: All received<br />Lords of Nigeria: All received<br /><br />Cookie Monsters: All received<br />Deep Thrusts: All received<br /><br />We&#039;re All Doomed: All received<br />Cupid Stunts: IceyKiller<br /><br />Bang Bros: All received<br />Hot Wax Bandits: All received<br /><br />Mass Destruction: All received<br />Frag Fags &amp; Flag: All received<br /><br />Reign in Blood: All received<br />Cereal Killers: All received', 'xx', 1);
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	(31, 7, 3, 1213063463, 34, 31, 'Good Job', 'GhostlyDeath', 'ghostlydeath@gmail.com', '68.197.167.110', 1, 0, '', 'Nice job TT admins', 'question', 1);
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	(35, 6, 2, 1213138216, 24, 35, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'lockwolf', 'lockwolf@hotmail.com', '67.183.210.65', 1, 0, '', 'Nostar and I agreed to Saturday at 8:00 CST', 'xx', 1);
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	(36, 6, 2, 1213161428, 17, 36, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '75.204.46.217', 1, 0, '', 'Doomguy and I have agreed to a 4 PM EST Saturday Showdown Throwdown.&nbsp; Be there or be square. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(39, 6, 2, 1213252912, 21, 39, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'Albatross', 'iglahn@gmail.com', '69.243.185.233', 1, 0, '', 'http://www.playbackonline.ca/articles/daily/20070129/odactf.html', 'xx', 1);
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	(40, 6, 2, 1213373159, 23, 40, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'Nautilus', 'knotilus@myway.com', '96.240.133.74', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=MionicDonut link=topic=6.msg36#msg36 date=1213161428]<br />Doomguy and I have agreed to a 4 PM EST Saturday Showdown Throwdown.&nbsp; <br />[/quote]<br /><br />It&#039;s [i]throwdown showdown[/i], kiddo. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(41, 6, 2, 1213541095, 1, 41, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', '[size=12pt][b][color=blue]Lords of Nigeria - 0[/color][/b][/size]<br /><br />Game 1: Rottking, Killemall - 2<br />Game 2: Rottking, Killemall - 3<br /><br />[size=12pt][b][color=red]We&#039;re All Doomed - 2[/color][/b][/size]<br /><br />Game 1: Nostar, Kandy_Kid - 5<br />Game 2: Nostar, Kandy_Kid - 4<br /><br />GGS', 'xx', 1);
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	(6276, 614, 20, 1329958245, 157, 6276, 'Re: Week 8 (FEB 20 - FEB 26) : ZDCTF09 (MAP09) - Discussion and Results', 'Legion_', 'skulltaglegion@hotmail.com', '71.115.99.65', 1, 0, '', 'demos are for the weak', 'xx', 1);
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	(43, 8, 3, 1213586251, 45, 43, 'Yo', 'Trombe', 'rei336@hotmail.com', '69.251.242.66', 1, 0, '', 'Well I&#039;ve been interested in joining the IDL, I was recommended by several players to join it (Like Shadow_Ghost). Some of you might remember me as [SIN]Pride, but yeah. Can anyone help me with this?', 'xx', 1);
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	(44, 6, 2, 1213587733, 23, 44, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'Nautilus', 'knotilus@myway.com', '96.240.133.74', 1, 1213587847, 'Nautilus', '[size=16pt][color=blue]FFF - 2[/color][/size]<br /><br />Game 1: Beast, Bloodstrike, Tai/Ghostlydeath - 5<br />Game 2: Beast, Bloodstrike, Ghostlydeath - 1<br />Game 3: Beast, Bloodstrike, Tai - 5<br /><br />[size=16pt][color=red]BBS - 1[/color][/size]<br /><br />Game 1: Albatross, Ladna, Nautilus - 3<br />Game 2: Albatross, Ladna, Nautilus - 2<br />Game 3: Albatross, Ladna, Nautilus - 0<br /><br />Despite the problems some people notably had with their connections and computers, this was an overall fun match. Good game, kids! ', 'xx', 1);
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	(45, 6, 2, 1213588892, 22, 45, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '99.228.211.181', 1, 1213589056, 'Shadow_Ghost', '[size=18pt][color=red]cM^ : 1[/color][/size]<br /><br />Game 1: Shadow, Mantis - 3 flags<br />Game 2: Shadow, Mantis - 4 flags<br />Game 3: Shadow, Mantis - 5 flags<br /><br />[size=18pt][color=blue]CUP : 1[/color][/size]<br /><br />Game 1: Saber, Marine - 4 flags<br />Game 2: Saber, Marine - 4 flags<br />Game 3: Saber, Marine - 2 flags<br /><br />holy shit really gg&#039;s', 'xx', 1);
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	(46, 6, 2, 1213589912, 8, 46, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@zdaemon.org', '70.19.190.165', 1, 0, '', '[color=red][b][size=10pt]ContraBanned - 2[/size][/b][/color]<br /><br />Game 1: HumanBones, Rhombus - 5<br />Game 2: HumanBones, Rhombus - 5<br /><br />[color=blue][b][size=10pt]Deep Thrusts - 0[/size][/b][/color]<br /><br />Game 1: Oath, Caller - 0<br />Game 2: Envy, Oath - 0<br /><br />Demos for CTB (will be) accounted for in the archives. GG&#039;s!', 'xx', 1);
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	(47, 6, 2, 1213594128, 17, 47, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 0, '', '[color=red][b][size=14pt]Cereal Killers- 1[/size][/b][/color]<br /><br />Game 1: MionicDonut, mid, Roscoe - 0<br />Game 2: MionicDonut, mid, Roscoe - 3<br />Game 3: MionicDonut, mid, Roscoe - 2<br /><br />[color=blue][b][size=14pt]Mass Destruction - 1[/size][/b][/color]<br /><br />Game 1: Doomguy666, Hex, Oscar - 3<br />Game 2: Doomguy666, Hex, Oscar - 1<br />Game 3: Doomguy666, Hex, Oscar - 2<br /><br />Deliciously Delightful matches.&nbsp; The ending [i]should[/i] go down in IDL history.&nbsp; On that note, Let it be known that all 4 memebrs showed up on each team, apparently an IDL first.', 'xx', 1);
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	(48, 8, 3, 1213595279, 16, 48, 'Re: Yo', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '69.0.81.130', 1, 0, '', 'You&#039;d have to wait until mid-season signups. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(49, 6, 2, 1213595410, 11, 49, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'Doomguy666', 'xdoomguy666x@hotmail.com', '96.18.32.149', 1, 0, '', 'Was definitely some good games... you guys pulled it together after that first game. The ending really was epic and I honestly thought we would have had it. Again, great match and good luck in the future!', 'xx', 1);
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	(50, 6, 2, 1213603709, 10, 50, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 1213604018, 'Ralphis', '[quote author=MionicDonut link=topic=6.msg47#msg47 date=1213594128]<br />On that note, Let it be known that all 4 memebrs showed up on each team, apparently an IDL first.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Not sure that&#039;s entirely accurate.<br /><br />Aside from that, I&#039;m happy to see that all six games got done despite some teams not following the times they scheduled earlier in the week. It&#039;s also a shame to see several captains didn&#039;t even end up showing up after they set times.<br /><br />I&#039;ll try to update the page as soon as possible. All players please upload your week 2 demos to http://www.intldoomleague.org/demos/', 'xx', 1);
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	(51, 6, 2, 1213619096, 17, 51, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '75.206.198.13', 1, 1213619455, 'MionicDonut', 'Apparantly mine didnt upload right, but I did make the demo. I probably wont be able to upload it until thursday evening at the earliest.', 'xx', 1);
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	(52, 6, 2, 1213634510, 7, 52, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', 'I do think it&#039;s a little crappy that 3 out of 6 games played 2v2 matches, and I wish that players would make more of an effort to get on and a least play their games, if not practice once in a while.&nbsp; That said, this week was pretty intense, just looking at the number of matches that ended up in ties.&nbsp; I&#039;m looking forward to watching all the demos, GGs everyone.', 'xx', 1);
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	(38, 6, 2, 1213240551, 0, 39, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'Fastidious', '', '24.15.221.244', 1, 1213329879, 'Fastidious', 'Me and Tenchu setup a match Sunday 7pm EST.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6884, 671, 22, 1337871671, 267, 6884, 'Re: S2012 Invite List', 'RecKle$$_', 'Aesthesic@hotmail.com', '189.135.83.26', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://i.imgur.com/tFlB2.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(336, 37, 6, 1226352128, 76, 336, 'Re: IDL Signups Open', 'RussianDumbass', 'russiandumbass@gmail.com', '146.115.50.71', 1, 0, '', 'Name: RussianDumbass<br />Country: U.S.A.<br />AIM: RussianDumbass<br />E-mail: RussianDumbass@gmail.com', 'xx', 1);
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	(53, 9, 2, 1213646704, 10, 71, 'Week 3 (June 16th-22nd) : ZDCTF19', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 1214013473, 'Ralphis', 'Official Servers for Week 3 of IDL Summer 2008<br /><br />[International Doom League Week 2 - ZDCTF19 - A]<br />69.64.49.142:11022<br />Password= seasonfour<br /><br />[International Doom League Week 2 - ZDCTF19 - B]<br />69.64.49.142:11032<br />Password= seasonfour<br /><br />Post predictions, arrangements, and results here.<br /><br />CAPTAINS, MAKE ARRANGEMENTS AND POST THE AGREED GAME TIME BY 11:59 EST TUESDAY NIGHT IN THIS THREAD.<br /><br />GAME TIMES<br />-------------------<br />TCM v WAD - Mon 12:00pm EDT<br />LON v DPT - Mon 12:00pm EDT<br />HWB v FFF - Sun 10:30pm EDT<br />MAD v RNB - Mon 12:00pm EDT<br />CRK v CUP - Sun 8:00pm EDT', 'xx', 1);
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	(54, 10, 2, 1213647286, 10, 127, 'Mid-Season Sign ups Open!', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 1214881742, 'Ralphis', 'Mid-Season sign ups for the Summer 2008 IDL Season are open. Sign ups will close on 11:59pm EDT, Sunday June 29th. Players will be allowed to be selected in week 5. Please sign up ONLY if you think you can be reliable.<br /><br />Please sign up using the following template:<br /><br />[quote]Name: Ralphis<br />Country: USA<br />Email contact: ralphis@unidoom.org<br />Instant Message Contact: ralphissfr6 (AIM)[/quote]<br /><br />[b]::CURRENT SIGNUP LIST::[/b]<br /><br />Deathbringer<br />Killingblair<br />Stallion<br />Xenaero<br />Ripped<br />Kyte<br />Whopper<br />Radnsmash<br />Eazy-E <br />Anger / Nutz<br />Cheez-It<br />GhoulSlayer<br />Chew<br />Jkist3<br />', 'exclamation', 1);
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	(55, 10, 2, 1213647603, 48, 55, 'Re: Mid-Season Sign ups Open!', 'DeathBR1ngeR', 'DeathBR1ngeR@silvertear.net', '67.184.170.15', 1, 0, '', 'Name: DeathBR1ngeR<br />Country: USA<br />Email contact: DeathBR1ngeR@silvertear.net<br />Instant Message Contact: None: IRC', 'xx', 1);
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	(56, 10, 2, 1213666940, 49, 56, 'Re: Mid-Season Sign ups Open!', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '24.239.66.68', 1, 0, '', 'Name: Killingblair<br />Country: USA<br />Email contact: blair.cahue@gmail.com<br />Instant Message Contact: blaircahue08 (AIM)', 'xx', 1);
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	(57, 6, 2, 1213726163, 24, 57, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'lockwolf', 'lockwolf@hotmail.com', '67.183.210.65', 1, 0, '', 'Damnit, I am really sorry I couldn&#039;t make it. Last Wednesday my lung collapsed so I&#039;ve spent the past week in the hospital which is fucking lame.', 'xx', 1);
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	(58, 10, 2, 1213751342, 15, 58, 'Re: Mid-Season Sign ups Open!', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '64.231.236.167', 1, 0, '', 'Name: ItalianStallion<br />Country: CANADA<br />Email contact: stalliondoom@gmail.com<br />Instant Message Contact: none.&nbsp; IRC', 'xx', 1);
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	(59, 6, 2, 1213763611, 20, 59, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'Mantis-X', 'nesman90@aol.com', '65.87.154.202', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=lockwolf link=topic=6.msg57#msg57 date=1213726163]<br />Damnit, I am really sorry I couldn&#039;t make it. Last Wednesday my lung collapsed so I&#039;ve spent the past week in the hospital which is fucking lame.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Damn that doesn&#039;t sound too fun... Glad everything is OK now.&nbsp; ;D', 'xx', 1);
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	(60, 9, 2, 1213766113, 17, 60, 'Re: Week 3 (June 16th-22nd) : ZDCTF19', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '75.206.150.139', 1, 0, '', 'The Cupid Stunts and Cereal Killers have agreed to have at each other 8 PM EST Sunday.', 'xx', 1);
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	(61, 10, 2, 1213832301, 19, 61, 'Re: Mid-Season Sign ups Open!', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '12.159.3.116', 1, 0, '', 'Name: Xenaero<br />Country: USA<br />Email contact: xenaero@gmail.com<br />Instant Message Contact: Xenaero (AIM) || Xenaero@gmail.com (MSN)<br /><br />Here I am, rock you like a hurricane~', 'xx', 1);
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	(62, 8, 3, 1213832378, 19, 62, 'Re: Yo', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '12.159.3.116', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Tai link=topic=8.msg48#msg48 date=1213595279]<br />You&#039;d have to wait until mid-season signups. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />Which are open!<br /><br />http://www.intldoomleague.org/forums/index.php?topic=10.0', 'xx', 1);
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	(63, 6, 2, 1213834625, 10, 72, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 1214179611, 'Ralphis', 'Demos Needed:<br /><br />Lords of Nigeria: All accounted for<br />We&#039;re All Doomed: All accounted for<br /><br />ContraBanned: All accounted for<br />Deep Thrusts: Envy, Caller<br /><br />Cookie Monsters: All accounted for<br />Cupid Stunts: All accounted for<br /><br />Bang Bros: All accounted for<br />Frag Fags &amp; Flag: Bloodstrike<br /><br />Mass Destruction: All accounted for<br />Cereal Killers: All accounted for<br /><br />Reign in Blood: All accounted for<br />Hot Wax Bandits: All accounted for', 'xx', 1);
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	(64, 10, 2, 1213843096, 50, 64, 'Re: Mid-Season Sign ups Open!', 'Ripped', '420ripped420@gmail.com', '99.165.196.134', 1, 0, '', 'Name: Ripped<br />Country: USA<br />Email contact: 420ripped420@gmail.com<br />Instant Message Contact: Rippped420 (AIM)', 'xx', 1);
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	(65, 10, 2, 1213898043, 51, 65, 'Re: Mid-Season Sign ups Open!', 'Kyte', 'kyte102@yahoo.com', '71.166.46.224', 1, 0, '', 'Name: Kyte<br />Country: United States<br />Email: kyte102@yahoo.com<br />IM: MSN - kyte102@hotmail.com&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; AIM - kyte102', 'xx', 1);
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	(66, 6, 2, 1213915720, 46, 66, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'Roscoe', 'dalekcomander@gmail.com', '71.111.7.7', 1, 0, '', 'Uploaded. <br /><br />GGs MAD.<br /><br />Oscore o/', 'xx', 1);
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	(67, 9, 2, 1213985684, 1, 67, 'Re: Week 3 (June 16th-22nd) : ZDCTF19', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', 'Ghost and me think this will happen between 10pm and 12pm Saturday, depending on his parents.', 'xx', 1);
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	(68, 10, 2, 1213986389, 52, 68, 'Re: Mid-Season Sign ups Open!', 'Whopper', 'zwhopperz@yahoo.com', '76.20.234.185', 1, 0, '', 'Name: Whopper<br />Country: USA<br />Email: zwhopperz@yahoo.com<br />IM: None, just catch me on irc<br /><br /> I&#039;ll be on to play my IDL games, unlike my other games....', 'xx', 1);
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	(69, 6, 2, 1214006476, 4, 69, 'Re: Week 2 (June 9th-15th) : ODA01', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '68.62.47.157', 1, 0, '', 'I just uploaded my demo to the archive.', 'xx', 1);
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	(70, 9, 2, 1214013303, 4, 70, 'Re: Week 3 (June 16th-22nd) : ZDCTF19', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '68.62.47.157', 1, 0, '', 'sun 10:30pm est', 'xx', 1);
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	(71, 9, 2, 1214013358, 16, 71, 'Re: Week 3 (June 16th-22nd) : ZDCTF19', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '64.252.10.68', 1, 0, '', 'Sounds good, Tenchu. : ) So it&#039;s settled. See you there!', 'xx', 1);
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	(909, 109, 10, 1245555419, 19, 909, 'Re: Ladna needs demos for the site', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '69.68.242.123', 1, 0, '', 'http://xenaero.googlepages.com/idl6week3ebl.zip<br /><br />url is self-explanatory', 'xx', 1);
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	(72, 10, 2, 1214173522, 53, 72, 'Re: Mid-Season Sign ups Open!', 'Radnsmash', 'radnsmash@mailinator.com', '24.241.18.180', 1, 0, '', 'Name: Radnsmash<br />Country: USA<br />Email: radnsmash@hotmail.com<br />IM: Either IRC or &quot;radnsmash&quot; on Xfire, xRadnsmashx on AIM<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(74, 9, 2, 1214188365, 17, 74, 'Re: Week 3 (June 16th-22nd) : ZDCTF19', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 0, '', 'Good games Admiral &lt;o', 'xx', 1);
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	(6601, 636, 20, 1332861368, 267, 6601, 'Re: Season 11 / Winter 2012 - MASTERBOWL XI - Discussion and Results', 'RecKle$$_', 'Aesthesic@hotmail.com', '189.245.138.226', 1, 1332887216, 'RecKle$$_', '[img]http://i.imgur.com/FZ2H4.gif[/img]<br />15:29:10 &lt;capodecima&gt; OurHero if i was canadin or us player i have on every finger MB ring', 'xx', 1);
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	(326, 37, 6, 1226191052, 72, 347, 'Re: IDL Signups Open', 'Jwarrier', 'thejwarrier@yahoo.com', '129.219.65.61', 1, 1226551381, 'Jwarrier', 'Name: Jwarrie[R]<br />Country: USA<br />Email contact: thejwarrier@yahoo.com<br />Instant Message contact: thejwarrier@hotmail.com<br />Jwarrier irc.oftc.net #[r]', 'xx', 1);
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	(75, 9, 2, 1214193061, 4, 75, 'Re: Week 3 (June 16th-22nd) : ZDCTF19', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '68.62.47.157', 1, 0, '', 'my demo&#039;s uploaded to the archive.<br /><br />EDIT: D: i forgot to change the Week tab to Week 3 and accidentally uploaded my Week 3 demo to Week 1. i uploaded it a second time to Week 3, but the first one&#039;s still in Week 1, so you might want to fix that', 'xx', 1);
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	(76, 9, 2, 1214195271, 54, 76, 'Re: Week 3 (June 16th-22nd) : ZDCTF19', 'el-link', 'link.iwakura@gmail.com', '189.145.130.191', 1, 0, '', 'Hello<br /><br />Well I&#039;m not already added to the db of the demo upload section, so I thought I could post the demo here:<br /><br />http://www.mediafire.com/?10h9lnz82au<br /><br />I apologize, but I never thought I would be drafted and I&#039;m banned from #idl (thank you, Luis), so... uh, well, in the meantime this is it.<br /><br />Also, I&#039;m uploading and posting this now because I can forgot to do it, so I want to evade the penalty for not getting my demo up ;)', 'xx', 1);
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	(77, 10, 2, 1214195738, 56, 77, 'Re: Mid-Season Sign ups Open!', 'Eazy-E', 'jeremybiagas@gmail.com', '74.193.204.32', 1, 0, '', 'Name: [EVO]Eazy-E <br />Country: USA<br />Email contact: jeremybiagas@gmail.com<br />Instant Message Contact: None- IRC', 'xx', 1);
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	(78, 9, 2, 1214196092, 2, 78, 'Re: Week 3 (June 16th-22nd) : ZDCTF19', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '70.102.121.145', 1, 0, '', 'Hot Wax Bandits- 0-1-2<br /><br />Game 1: Mikefails, Tenchu, Redshirt - 0<br />Game 2: Mikefails, Tenchu, Redshirt - 2<br />Game 3: Mikefails, Tenchu, Redshirt - 0<br /><br />Frag Flags &amp; Flag- 1-0-2<br /><br />Game 1: Tai, Beast, Ghostlydeath - 0<br />Game 2: Tai, Beast, Ghostlydeath - 3<br />Game 3: Tai, Beast, Ghostlydeath - 0<br /><br />were ggs, shame blood couldnt show up and have made these games a little faster, very intense, at least on my end.<br /><br />http://www.totaltrash.org/Fastidious/IDL%20Summer%202008/Week3/FFFvsHWB/FFFvsHWB_stats.html', 'xx', 1);
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	(79, 11, 2, 1214204610, 10, 100, 'Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 1214714401, 'nostar', 'Official Servers for Week 4 of IDL Summer 2008<br /><br />[International Doom League Week 2 - THIRTY13 - A]<br />69.64.49.142:11022<br />Password= seasonfour<br /><br />[International Doom League Week 2 - THIRTY13 - B]<br />69.64.49.142:11032<br />Password= seasonfour<br /><br />Post predictions, arrangements, and results here.<br /><br />CAPTAINS, MAKE ARRANGEMENTS AND POST THE AGREED GAME TIME BY 11:59 EST TUESDAY NIGHT IN THIS THREAD.<br /><br />GAME TIMES<br />-------------------<br />CTB v TCM - Mon 12:00pm EDT<br />LON v CUP - Mon 12:00pm EDT<br />BBS v MAD - Mon 12:00pm EDT<br />HWB v CRK - Thursday (June 26) at 10 EST.<br />DPT v FFF - 11 EST on Sunday June 29th', 'xx', 1);
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	(80, 11, 2, 1214209561, 10, 83, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 1214212406, 'Ralphis', 'Ralphis&#039; Week 4 Predictions<br /><br />[b]ContraBanned v Cookie Monsters - DIV[/b]<br />My team is undefeated and we&#039;re going to keep it this way. A blowout of epic proportions.<br />[i]ContraBanned steals the cookies from the cookie jar 2-0[/i]<br /><br />[b]Lords of Nigeria v Cupid Stunts - DIV[/b] <br />Divisional rivals, I expect the darkness to get just a little bit darker this week for LON who will most likely lose 2-0. However, there is light at the end of the tunnel for the Lords of Nigeria as next week&#039;s mid-season draft will most likely enable them to grab a new star player to add next to RottKing, perhaps Killingblair, Xenaero, or Whopper.<br />[i]Cupid Stunts strike with pinpoint precision 2-0[/i]<br /><br />[b]Bang Bros v Mass Destruction - DIV[/b]<br />The only action in the North this week, BBS and MAD are fighting for second place in a division dominated thus far by Reign in Blood. BBS is fighting for a definitive second place spot while a win for MAD will put them back at the .500 record they&#039;ve been so familiar with this season. If MAD plays their positions strong but flexible this week they should be able to take out BBS, not a pushover, and lock up their first win of the season.<br />[i]Mass Destruction shows the Bros a real Bang 2-1[/i]<br /><br />[b]Hot Wax Bandits v Cereal Killers - DIV[/b]<br />One thing is for sure, another team should come out of the winless column this week. HWB had a very strong, albeit unsuccessful, showing in week 3 against divisional rivals FFF. I expect them to take the teamwork they showed off in week 3 and layeth the proverbial smackdown on CRK this week. CRK, however, has just made a trade with DPT in which they not only traded midian for Caller but also picked up a higher mid-season draft pick next week by trading the RNB mid-season pick to DPT.<br />[i]Bandits shine their record with a &#039;1&#039; in the W column 2-1[/i]<br /><br />[b]Deep Thrusts v Frag Fags &amp; Flag[/b]<br />Coming off of a not so brilliant showing against HWB, FFF is still a powerful team and will probably make some changes to ensure a stronger fight against DPT this week. However, DPT now comes packed with more explosive power than ever if midian is not in absence for their game which should prove as a much needed makeover for DPT. If Bloodstrike is MIA this week, expect a FFF loss and perhaps even a new player on their roster the following week.<br />[i]Deep Thrusts slam their way (though protected) to a .500 record 2-1[/i]<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(81, 9, 2, 1214210340, 1, 83, 'Re: Week 3 (June 16th-22nd) : ZDCTF19', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1214212344, 'Ralphis', '[b][size=12pt][color=blue]Cookie Monsters - 0[/color][/size][/b]<br /><br />Game 1: Mantis, Hatred - 0<br />Game 2: Hatred, Mistopher - 0<br /><br />[b][size=12pt][color=red]We&#039;re All Doomed - 2[/color][/size][/b]<br /><br />Game 1: Nostar, Caboose - 5<br />Game 2: Nostar, Caboose - 5<br /><br />GGS', 'xx', 1);
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	(82, 11, 2, 1214210825, 54, 82, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'el-link', 'link.iwakura@gmail.com', '189.145.130.191', 1, 0, '', 'Let&#039;s hope LoN wins this one.&nbsp; ;D', 'xx', 1);
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	(83, 9, 2, 1214210975, 54, 83, 'Re: Week 3 (June 16th-22nd) : ZDCTF19', 'el-link', 'link.iwakura@gmail.com', '189.145.130.191', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=nostar link=topic=9.msg81#msg81 date=1214210340]<br />[b][size=12pt][color=blue]Lords of Nigeria - 0[/color][/size][/b]<br /><br />Game 1: Mantis, Hatred - 0<br />Game 2: Hatred, Mistopher - 0<br /><br />[/quote]<br /><br />What? I mean, yeah, but isn&#039;t Lords of Nigeria Killemall, Rottking and Lockwolf?&nbsp; :-\\', 'xx', 1);
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	(84, 11, 2, 1214223205, 17, 84, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '75.206.90.58', 1, 0, '', 'Tai will face off against Brahm', 'xx', 1);
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	(85, 8, 3, 1214262729, 21, 85, 'Re: Yo', 'Albatross', 'iglahn@gmail.com', '199.72.207.158', 1, 0, '', 'Hey Pride.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6277, 609, 18, 1329968990, 7, 6277, 'Re: Is there a Heaven or only Hell? Demo Judge hunts Kenshiro!!', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '65.214.200.140', 1, 0, '', '[quote=Ladna]It is because you are browsing a season during which you played no games.&nbsp; To fix this, go [url=http://www.intldoomleague.org/season/standings]here[/url] and pick the current season (Winter 2012).[/quote]', 'xx', 1);
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	(87, 11, 2, 1214356642, 33, 90, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'Envy', 'AE-1987@hotmail.com', '76.187.115.110', 1, 1214469867, 'Envy', 'FFF and DPT have agreed to play at 11 EST on Sunday June 29th.', 'xx', 1);
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	(88, 11, 2, 1214369472, 17, 88, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '75.207.204.63', 1, 0, '', 'HWB and CRK have agreed to Thursday (June 26) at 10 EST.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1128, 139, 11, 1256057999, 16, 1128, 'Re: Accepting Captain Bids', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '149.152.191.3', 1, 0, '', '^^^ No u<br /><br />: ]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2521, 272, 1, 1284169057, 222, 2521, 'Re: 1st Annual McIntosh Duel Invitational', 'Cecil', 'DarkCecil05@gmail.com', '75.110.110.208', 1, 0, '', 'Sweet. RTB (Fluffles) in this. Wonder how your mobile internet will cooperate with you. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(8539, 845, 28, 1361772110, 19, 8539, 'Re: Odamex damage system compared to ZD', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '184.1.248.204', 1, 0, '', 'Well, at least there wasn&#039;t a topic made about swingshot strength across ports.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8948, 885, 18, 1366991413, 2303, 8948, 'Re: Odamex 0.6.3 Released!', 'Watermelon', 'watermelonst@hotmail.com', '99.245.130.4', 1, 0, '', 'I want some priv this weekend on 0.6.3', 'xx', 1);
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	(337, 37, 6, 1226356417, 42, 337, 'Re: IDL Signups Open', 'GaX', 'eckbled@hotmail.com', '67.177.147.162', 1, 0, '', 'Name: GaX[R]<br />Country: United States <br />Email &amp; IM: eckbled@hotmail.com', 'xx', 1);
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	(91, 11, 2, 1214471462, 33, 92, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'Envy', 'AE-1987@hotmail.com', '76.187.115.110', 1, 1214526118, 'Envy', 'Envy&#039;s Week 4 Predictions<br /><br />ContraBanned v Cookie Monsters - DIV<br />Due to this week&#039;s map I am one to believe anything is possible with a good Defense. Now Shadow or Mantis could play D but i dont quite think they&#039;ll have enough firepower to keep up with Bones and Ralph on this one. Although i think this could potentially be a close game.<br />CTB wins 2-1<br /><br />Lords of Nigeria v Cupid Stunts - DIV <br />Shakal, Saber and Marine are really meshing well as a team over the past few weeks even in their tie on Oda map 01 most people thought Marine played brilliantly on Defense. Now on the other hand while CUP&#039;s stock is rising it just keeps getting worst and worst for LON... hopefully after they lose this game they will get someone to partner with Rottking.<br />CUP wins 2-0<br /><br /><br />Bang Bros v Mass Destruction - DIV<br />Again this week is really about a strong D and i think Nautilus can provide that for the Bang Bros if needed. Nautilus also is a very good runner on this map. I think in the end the Bang Bros experience on the map will carry them to the win<br />Bang Bros win 2-1<br /><br /><br />Hot Wax Bandits v Cereal Killers - DIV<br />While HWB is coming off a good showing against FFF I still like CRK in this one... although the winner of this may actually lose a stab at the player they&#039;re aiming for in the mid-season draft. So in theory the winner of this game may actually be the loser in the long run... guess well have to wait and see. If it&#039;s played out as it should be and both teams play 100% i think CRK will come out with it<br />CRK wins 2-0<br /><br />Deep Thrusts v Frag Fags &amp; Flag<br />with DPT now adding Midian to the roster they now have more of an explosive offense than ever with Oath and Midian running. Now Tai plays good D on mostly any map but im not sure if hes quite familiar with this one. As for DPT I will be playing the Defense. As long as I can hold the defense for DPT I think we will make quick work of FFF. (this prediction is not dependant on whether or not BloodStrike shows)<br />DPT wins 2-0', 'xx', 1);
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	(92, 11, 2, 1214524056, 1, 92, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', 'HEYYYYY<br /><br />CUP tied TCM on ODA1 =)<br /><br />Also I think MAD will beat up the bangbros. FU NAUT!', 'xx', 1);
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	(93, 10, 2, 1214591499, 57, 93, 'Re: Mid-Season Sign ups Open!', 'Anger', 'tonyt662@hotmail.com', '76.65.4.240', 1, 0, '', '[color=red]Name: Anger / Nutz<br />Country: Canada<br />Email contact: Im@yourMoms.com<br />IRC: Ofnet #AC&nbsp; IRC[/color]', 'xx', 1);
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	(94, 11, 2, 1214597463, 2, 98, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '70.102.121.145', 1, 1214634790, 'mikefails', 'mike&#039;s week4 predictions<br /><br />[b]ContraBanned v Cookie Monsters - DIV[/b]<br />I&#039;m guessing this map is gonna come down to a couple of key standoffs between these two monster teams and I think the Cookie Monsters have an edge in experience and it will show in the end.&nbsp; I also have faith in Denny&#039;s ability to be a sneaky shit and steal a few in the dark.&nbsp; Ralph is a great runner as well, but I think the monsters will have an easier time trying to return the flag vs him then Martyr and Humanbones might vs Shadow_ghost.<br />[i]Monsters kill the Contras perfect season with a 2-1 victory.<br />[/i]<br />[b]Lords of Nigeria v Cupid Stunts - DIV[/b]<br />Hard to really predict anything in favor of LON at this point, but if I remember right, Rottking did create the map and maybe that will work out in the end.&nbsp; Marine has really proved himself a star player in his own right and will continue to do so.<br />[i]Cupid Stunts fly through Nigeria 2-0 shutout.[/i]<br /><br />[b]Bang Bros v Mass Destruction - DIV[/b]<br />I think MAD can take this one, its a bigger map and it will give Oscar some room to boogie around with the flag.&nbsp; As long as MAD can hold a solid defense and fight off the Bangbros offensive, I think this one will be an easy win.<br />[i]Mass Destruction shows the Bros a new position, raep, 2-0.[/i]<br /><br />[b]Hot Wax Bandits v Cereal Killers - DIV[/b]<br />What can I say about this team?&nbsp; Scheduling woes, players quitting, and some early shutdowns have left us a bit demoralized to say the least.&nbsp; A strong looking team with the Cereal Killers has thus far had an uneventful season as well, I&#039;m sure both teams would love to add a 1 to that w column.<br />[i]The Cereal Killers melt the Wax Men all over their cereal in a close 2-1 win.<br />[/i]<br />[b]Deep Thrusts v Frag Fags &amp; Flag[/b]<br />I think Mr. 300% will save the day here with heavy item use and give his new runner Midian time to shine.&nbsp; It would be nice to see Blood show, but I&#039;m not certain he will coordinate well enough with Beast to give them that win.&nbsp; Midian himself is another star player in my mind and I don&#039;t doubt he can sneak a few past Tai given some time and the variety of attacking routes on this map.<br />[i]Deep Thrusts shows the Fag Fraggers what the receiving end is like in a 2-0 defensive struggle.[/i]', 'xx', 1);
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	(95, 10, 2, 1214614942, 58, 95, 'Re: Mid-Season Sign ups Open!', 'cheezIT', 'butterflyyk1sses@hotmail.com', '96.244.53.155', 1, 0, '', 'Name: Cheez-It<br />Country: US<br />Email: kweekwi@hotmail.com<br />IM: irc.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8271, 815, 17, 1360364829, 75, 8271, 'LIMITATION??', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '178.209.142.37', 1, 0, '', 'most people can&#039;t properly swingshot an elephant across the room with dual wielding vulcan cannons, but here we are, discussing the finer points of chaingun sniping JFK [i]from the orbit[/i].', 'xx', 1);
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	(99, 10, 2, 1214650877, 59, 108, 'Re: Mid-Season Sign ups Open!', 'GhoulSlayeR', 'GhoulSlayeR23@yahoo.com', '76.20.234.185', 1, 1214800547, 'GhoulSlayeR', 'name: GhoulSlayeR<br />cuntry: USA<br />contact: #IDL lol<br /><br /><br />Just a Reminder though, I might be a little unreliable due to a busy schedule lately.', 'xx', 1);
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	(100, 11, 2, 1214701963, 19, 100, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '12.159.3.116', 1, 0, '', 'I think every team&#039;s gonna play Sunday at 11:59PM.', 'xx', 1);
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	(904, 108, 10, 1245525329, 16, 904, 'Re: Week 3 (June 15 - June 21) : ZDCTF MAP03 - Discussion and Results', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '99.41.224.114', 1, 0, '', '[b]FIX THE DAMN HOMEPAGE [/b]&nbsp; &gt;:(', 'xx', 1);
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	(101, 11, 2, 1214722575, 1, 105, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1214779617, 'Ralphis', '[b]**DEMOS CURRENTLY MISSING FROM WEEK3**[/b]<br /><br />[b]Cookie Monsters: Mantis, Hatred, Mistopher<br /><br />We&#039;re All Doomed: Caboose<br /><br />Frag Fags &amp; Flag: Tai<br /><br />Reign in Blood: Whiteboy[/b]<br /><br />Submit your demos at: http://www.intldoomleague.org/demos/<br />You can use your forum account to login.<br /><br />Remember that if you do not submit your previous week demo by the time you play your next game you have to sit 1 round for each infraction.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(102, 11, 2, 1214723380, 17, 102, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=mikefails link=topic=11.msg94#msg94 date=1214597463]<br /><br /><br />[b]Hot Wax Bandits v Cereal Killers - DIV[/b]<br />What can I say about this team?&nbsp; Scheduling woes, players quitting, and some early shutdowns have left us a bit demoralized to say the least.&nbsp; [/quote]<br /><br />Which team are you referring to?', 'xx', 1);
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	(103, 11, 2, 1214724228, 4, 103, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '68.62.47.157', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=MionicDonut link=topic=11.msg102#msg102 date=1214723380]<br />Which team are you referring to?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Well... seeing as the author was mikehail, and he is on HWB, and he did use the term &#039;us&#039; to describe what team he was talking about, so...', 'xx', 1);
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	(8330, 820, 1, 1360470761, 19, 8330, 'Re: cartels paying IDL players to throw games', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '184.1.248.204', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=820.msg8329#msg8329 date=1360466354]<br />Thanks for the advertising Xen.&nbsp; I owe you one.&nbsp; ;)<br />[/quote]<br /><br />No problem! Remember my services if the Fnordy Niners are up against an offensive juggernaut and your otherwise lackluster defense just needs that extra kick! Cleared out my PM box just for teams like yours to place reservations!', 'xx', 1);
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	(328, 37, 6, 1226198959, 54, 328, 'Re: IDL Signups Open', 'el-link', 'link.iwakura@gmail.com', '189.145.145.69', 1, 0, '', 'Name: el-link<br />Country: Mexico<br />Email contact: link.iwakura@gmail.com<br />Instant Message Contact: link.iwakura@gmail.com (MSN)<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(9395, 953, 31, 1381195029, 267, 9395, 'Re: hi', 'RecKle$$_', 'Aesthesic@hotmail.com', '37.228.104.51', 1, 0, '', 'IDL is dead<br />RMR wins by default.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(10139, 1085, 28, 1396314289, 36, 10139, 'Odamex 0.7.0', 'HeX', 'mdvulture@yahoo.com', '172.6.92.113', 1, 0, '', 'Has anyone tried it? Thoughts?', 'xx', 1);
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	(104, 11, 2, 1214767765, 17, 104, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Tenchu link=topic=11.msg103#msg103 date=1214724228]<br /><br />Well... seeing as the author was mikehail, and he is on HWB, and he did use the term &#039;us&#039; to describe what team he was talking about, so...<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Just saying we&#039;ve been through the same problems ourselves', 'xx', 1);
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	(105, 9, 2, 1214779519, 10, 105, 'Re: Week 3 (June 16th-22nd) : ZDCTF19', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 1214787607, 'nostar', 'Demos Needed:<br /><br />Cookie Monsters: Mantis, Hatred, Mistopher<br />We&#039;re All Doomed: Caboose<br /><br />Lords of Nigeria: All received<br />Deep Thrusts: All received<br /><br />Hot Wax Bandits: All received<br />Frag Fags &amp; Flag: All received<br /><br />Mass Destruction: All received<br />Reign in Blood: Whiteboy<br /><br />Cereal Killers: All received<br />Cupid Stunts: All received', 'xx', 1);
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	(106, 10, 2, 1214797555, 9, 106, 'Re: Mid-Season Sign ups Open!', 'Cheww', 'yourmama@gmail.com', '74.232.2.245', 1, 0, '', 'Name: Chew<br />Country: USA<br />Aim/Email Contact: Tiddlywinkers@aol.com<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(107, 10, 2, 1214798063, 60, 107, 'Re: Mid-Season Sign ups Open!', 'Jkist3', 'jefferson.kist@duke.edu', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', 'Name: JKist3<br />Country: USA<br />Email contact: jefferson.kist@duke.edu<br />IRC: irc.oftc.net - #ZDDL<br /><br />Ok guys, here&#039;s what&#039;s going on.&nbsp; I am moving to another city tomorrow.&nbsp; Whenever, I get all settled and moved up, I&#039;ll try to get some internet.&nbsp; Once i try to get internet, wait for internet to get installed, I&#039;ll be back online some. Needless to say the chances of me playing any idl games anytime soon are pretty much nonexistant.&nbsp; Once i do get everything set up, and i get back online, I will have a new job.&nbsp; It looks like i&#039;m gonna have to be at work pretty early.&nbsp; So late night games I&#039;m not really planning to play. Regardless, I told Ralphis I&#039;d sign up a while back, so here I am.', 'xx', 1);
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	(109, 16, 2, 1214833696, 13, 425, 'Interesting Note', 'Shakal', 'justtosexy@hotmail.com', '99.232.225.116', 1, 1228873239, 'Shakal', 'Have a nice day.', 'xx', 1);
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	(110, 16, 2, 1214834125, 22, 110, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '99.228.211.181', 1, 0, '', 'rofl', 'xx', 1);
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	(111, 16, 2, 1214835590, 33, 111, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Envy', 'AE-1987@hotmail.com', '76.187.115.110', 1, 0, '', 'wow so strategy is involved in the IDL&nbsp; 8)', 'xx', 1);
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	(112, 16, 2, 1214839838, 19, 112, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '12.159.3.116', 1, 0, '', 'Bloody figures.', 'xx', 1);
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	(113, 16, 2, 1214842318, 7, 113, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.29.83', 1, 0, '', 'Thank God [b]someone[/b] is doing something to prevent ridiculous team stacking.&nbsp; I&#039;ve heard all kinds of nasty rumors, like throwing games (either in-game or just not showing up), &quot;verbal agreements&quot;, agreeing to play with weak rosters, etc.<br /><br />There [b]is[/b] a difference between:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]trading a player to reserves[/li]<br />[li]trading players to other teams[/li]<br />[li]trading midseason picks/homefield picks[/li]<br />[li]agreeing to specific player draft picks (as in, agreeing to NOT draft a player), even though it&#039;s unenforceable[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />and:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]agreeing to play with a weak roster[/li]<br />[li]agreeing to throw games (or even individual matches)[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />Maybe part of what these captains are doing is pointing out holes in the rules.&nbsp; While I can understand that, I respect the captains that have played by the spirit of the rules, and have displayed great sportsmanship in general.&nbsp; Frankly, if I were Ralphis, I would be pretty disappointed in the whole thing.<br /><br />I can&#039;t talk about other teams or captains, but I can talk about Nautilus and (BB).&nbsp; Naut chose Climhazzard for his 1st round pick; while he wasn&#039;t Naut&#039;s 1st choice (he didn&#039;t realize Xenaero had dropped), he chose Clim for his stellar performance on TBA in the Masterbowl, and past game experience.&nbsp; Then he chose me, and then I recommended Albatross... even though he hasn&#039;t been on lately.&nbsp; I felt like since I know him personally I could get him on more.<br /><br />Well, Clim hasn&#039;t even shown up for 1 practice, let alone a game.&nbsp; When Albatross did show up (and he did for 2 out of 3), his ping was sky high.&nbsp; Did Nautilus:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]try to trade Tony to another team, leaving out the fact that he&#039;s MIA?[/li]<br />[li]try to trade forfeits/weak team rosters for a better player or a midseason pick?[/li]<br />[li]talk to a player he knew personally and convince him to mutiny against his current captain, so he would trade him to reserves and Naut could pick him up?[/li]<br />[li]throw his hands up and quit IDL altogether?[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />No.&nbsp; He traded Tony to reserves for Brainthunk and we&#039;re looking to trade out Albatross for a good midseason draft pick.&nbsp; This is because Nautilus has [b]class[/b].<br /><br />Anyway, to be topical, I don&#039;t see that Nostar&#039;s done anything &quot;wrong&quot;, even by my standards. &nbsp;All he did was trade his 1st round draft player for HWB&#039;s 2nd place midseason draft slot (and Bolt). &nbsp;Did he convince Potent &amp; JKist to sign up? &nbsp;Probably. &nbsp;I know a lot of players wouldn&#039;t sign up if they had a chance to get drafted onto a losing team, so they probably signed up when Nostar clinched the #2 pick.&nbsp; I honestly don&#039;t blame him because RNB is so stacked this season (because Donut made, IMO, the stupidest, most idiotic and weak deal of the century... multiple times now).<br /><br />If anything, I really wish JKist hadn&#039;t signed up if he doesn&#039;t think he&#039;s going to play, and if I had my way, Ralphis would kick him from the midseason rolls. &nbsp;I don&#039;t think it&#039;s at all fair to put teams in a position of:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Choosing a lesser-skilled player because JKist said he wouldn&#039;t be on[/li]<br />[li]Choosing JKist and wasting the midseason pick on an MIA player[/li]<br />[li]Choosing JKist just to keep WAD from stacking, and basically wasting your midseason pick[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />I understand if people have a problem with IDL, or if they just don&#039;t have any respect for its rules, or if they have grudges against admins or w/e. &nbsp;Fine. &nbsp;Just don&#039;t try and crash it.&nbsp; Don&#039;t sign up if you&#039;re not going to play.&nbsp; Don&#039;t concoct crazy schemes to get traded off of a team you don&#039;t like, don&#039;t lie to captains and tell them you&#039;re not going to be on at all so they trade you.&nbsp; Don&#039;t throw games as part of a trade, or to get a better mid-season pick.&nbsp; It&#039;s not &quot;strategy&quot;, it&#039;s &quot;being a prick&quot;.<br /><br />Shakal:&nbsp; You&#039;re one smart mofkr.&nbsp; I thought it was awesome you volunteered to be a captain, and at this point, I think it&#039;s even more awesome.', 'xx', 1);
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	(114, 11, 2, 1214842897, 7, 114, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.29.83', 1, 0, '', '[b][size=14pt][color=red]Bang Bros.: 1[/color][/size][/b]<br /><br />Nautilus, Ladna - 3<br />Nautilus, Ladna - 0<br />Nautilus, Ladna - 0<br /><br />[b][size=14pt][color=blue]Mass Destruction: 2[/color][/size][/b]<br /><br />Doomguy666, HeX_Vulture - 2<br />Doomguy666, HeX_Vulture - 4<br />Doomguy666, HeX_Vulture - 5<br /><br />GGs MAD.&nbsp; Sorry my ping bailed on me, it looked to be a pretty solid match.&nbsp; We&#039;ll make it up to you on ODA04.', 'xx', 1);
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	(115, 16, 2, 1214851788, 17, 115, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 0, '', 'Shakal will trade for JKist', 'xx', 1);
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	(116, 16, 2, 1214852817, 16, 116, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '64.252.41.131', 1, 1214852912, 'Tai', 'I want Jkist castrated promptly if he really is lying.<br /><br />That is all. : )', 'xx', 1);
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	(117, 11, 2, 1214853475, 33, 117, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'Envy', 'AE-1987@hotmail.com', '76.187.115.110', 1, 0, '', '[b][size=14pt][color=red]DPT-2[/color][/size][/b]<br /><br />Envy,Oath,Midian-5<br />Envy,Oath,Midian-5<br /><br />[b][size=14pt][color=blue]FF&amp;F-0[/color][/size][/b]<br /><br />Tai,Beast,GhostlyDeath-0<br />Tai,Beast,GhostlyDeath-1<br /><br />GG&#039;s FF&amp;F. Good luck in your upcoming matches', 'xx', 1);
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	(118, 16, 2, 1214853675, 33, 118, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Envy', 'AE-1987@hotmail.com', '76.187.115.110', 1, 0, '', 'I guess even if it is his tactic to try and get NS on the same team.... This is how the IDL is played i guess you could say. But just as he is trying to get all of NS on the same team, people are trying to make sure now at this point they are not on the same team so it goes both ways i suppose', 'xx', 1);
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	(941, 117, 10, 1247100966, 38, 941, 'Re: Ladna needs even more demos for the site', 'Sabertooth', 'ssj4chazou@hotmail.com', '66.211.46.71', 1, 0, '', 'http://rapidshare.com/files/253608582/EBLvsSpe.rar.html <br /> <br />here is my week 5 against SPE no crashes but lots of spiking&nbsp; ;)', 'xx', 1);
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	(910, 110, 1, 1245614882, 7, 910, 'Attn: Mr. Hail', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '75.167.223.189', 1, 0, '', 'WTF do u think yr doin&nbsp; ???', 'xx', 1);
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	(119, 16, 2, 1214856119, 7, 120, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.29.83', 1, 1214858900, 'Ladna', '[quote author=MionicDonut link=topic=16.msg115#msg115 date=1214851788]<br />Shakal will trade for JKist<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Ha ha, OK.&nbsp; But seriously why should he have to?&nbsp; I&#039;m not gonna get inside Shakal&#039;s head and try to figure out what, if anything, he would do otherwise, but he shouldn&#039;t have to waste his midseason to pick up a player who &quot;isn&#039;t going to show up&quot; to keep WAD from stacking (which is absolutely their right).&nbsp; Again, I don&#039;t have a problem with what Nostar did, I think that&#039;s all clear.&nbsp; I disapprove of signing up for IDL with a &quot;I&#039;m not going to play&quot; disclaimer... which means to me that you&#039;re not going to play unless you get on a team you like.&nbsp; I apologize if that&#039;s not the case, but I still think he shouldn&#039;t have signed up if he didn&#039;t think he was going to be able to play.&nbsp; I feel the same way about all the other players who have been chronically absent... Tony &amp; Bloodstrike come to mind, though there&#039;s probably others.<br /><br />However, I will say that IDL is awesome, and if I was in the same position JKist is in (new city, new place, new job, new internet, real work hours, etc.) and still wanted to join the IDL, I would consider signing up like he did.&nbsp; I mean, at least he&#039;s being honest about his possible attendance issues.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know the guy that well, but what I&#039;ve heard is he&#039;s an upfront, pragmatic guy... not to mention he runs ZDDL (which looks like herding cats, but what do I know).&nbsp; So on the other hand, I hope that he gets re-situated quickly and can play ASAP for whoever (if anyone) drafts him.&nbsp; In fact, I hope he signs up next season too, as a captain even!', 'xx', 1);
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	(120, 16, 2, 1214857207, 10, 120, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 0, '', 'In Donut&#039;s defense, I believe he was making an allusion to &quot;Tai trades for Brahm&quot;. I intend to post a more lengthy response later', 'xx', 1);
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	(1144, 140, 11, 1256793431, 67, 1144, 'Re: IDL Winter 2010 Signups Open', 'Iceykiller', 'infinitely_forgotten@yahoo.com', '98.232.248.23', 1, 0, '', 'Name: Iceykiller (Clan Name: Blackhole)<br />Country: USA<br />Email contact: infinitely_forgotten@yahoo.com<br />Instant Message Contact: ZDIRC, Quakenet, YIM<br />Regular Availability: Nights, all of them. Might change if I get a job (wish me luck!!!)<br />Captain: N', 'xx', 1);
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	(1131, 139, 11, 1256235761, 22, 1131, 'Re: Accepting Captain Bids', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '24.141.53.160', 1, 0, '', 'yeah stop protecting nostar you fucker !!', 'xx', 1);
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	(121, 16, 2, 1214861039, 16, 121, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '64.252.83.205', 1, 0, '', 'Oh yeah, and I also found this interesting note from someone. : o<br /><br />&quot;Dear Tenchu.<br />You are a good person to make deals with, so I want to talk business with you.<br />I am here to make you an offer you can&#039;t refuse.&nbsp; One that will hopefully give us both a chance to get into the playoffs.<br /><br />You are probably wondering, Why am I helping you, my divisional rival.&nbsp; <br />The reason for this is because If theres one thing I want to see more than getting my team into the playoffs, <br />its making sure that Tais team does NOT get to the playoffs.&nbsp; So I propose a semi-alliance in this contract affectionately named<br /><br />OPERATION: TAIBREAKER<br /><br />Here is what is on the table<br />Due to you already using a trade this season, it would be redundant for us to trade players, <br />disallowing your second midseason pick.&nbsp; You heard me correctly, I am offering a second pick for your team.<br />------------------------------------------<br />DPT&#039;s midseason pick, to be precise&nbsp; (ironicly they play Tais team)<br />Worst case scenario, you will go 7th...for your second pick <br />Best Case Scenario, you will go 4TH for your second pick.<br />------------------------------------------<br />This is what I ask in return.<br /><br />Condition 1.<br />You are NOT to pick Whopper for your first midseason pick.<br /><br />Condition 1a ( The &#91;]\\&#91;]igeria Clause )<br />If LoN (the only team that could possibly go before either of us) picks up Whopper as their pick, you are not to pick up Stallion.<br />Aside from those two You can have anybody else you want.&nbsp; Xenaero, Killingblair.<br />Hell even if Chaindude shows up, you can have them.&nbsp; But no matter who you take, you must follow condition 2<br /><br />Condition 2.<br />You are not to use your FIRST midseason pick in any and all future matches against CRK.<br />Week 7 OR OTHERWISE. <br />-------------------------------------------&quot;<br /><br />Interesting, indeed.... : )', 'xx', 1);
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	(122, 16, 2, 1214861642, 61, 122, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Chain', 'luis_miguelito_@hotmail.com', '99.154.11.85', 1, 0, '', 'Jkist tried to pull the same thing in season 2, when it was me that suggested he sign up (for fun/competition, of course). Basically he has the disclaimer in place so that if a &quot;lesser&quot; team gets him, he can fall back on it. If someone HE likes or he considers &quot;good&quot; picks him, then it&#039;s all great.<br /><br />I could see things like that, and now Donut&#039;s little &quot;Operation TAIbreaker&quot; (rofl @ name) coming, thus my lack of participation this season (among other things).<br /><br />The mid-season reserve/reinforcement/trading was put in place by me in Season 2, but that was a season where teams GENUINELY were in deep shit as far as members quitting and NEEDING reinforcements. It&#039;s too bad the system wasn&#039;t polished up and now we see the first hints of exploitation.', 'xx', 1);
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	(123, 16, 2, 1214865608, 17, 123, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Chain link=topic=16.msg122#msg122 date=1214861642]<br /> It&#039;s too bad the system wasn&#039;t polished up and now we see the first hints of exploitation.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I disagree, the system was exploited last season.&nbsp; If anything moreso than this season.', 'xx', 1);
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	(124, 16, 2, 1214867801, 1, 132, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1214912823, 'nostar', 'Hehe Shakal you rascal. =) Pick whoever you want<br /><br />And actually, it&#039;s not unreasonable for Jkist to signup and tell teams that he wants to play, but might not be able to. Make whatever insinuations you want but at least he&#039;s letting captains know he might not show up.<br /><br />-Albatross<br />-Bloodstrike<br />-Flowstone<br />-Joshsmith<br />-Caboose<br />-Hatred<br />-AND FUCKIN TONY!<br /><br />That&#039;s right! 12.5% of IDL signup draft picks have since failed to show up OR have quit before mid-season.<br />So don&#039;t rag on kist for telling you that he is moving to Chicago, and he does have a new job and that he does have to get situated before all his &#039;doom priorities&#039; set in. And if you doubt it&#039;s truthfulness then I guess ask people who know him. It&#039;s not a lie.<br /><br />As to the plot. Of course I made an attempt to get NS members on my team, but I didn&#039;t throw games, I didn&#039;t extort other captains, I didn&#039;t trick people. I just traded a good player for a good pick. There isn&#039;t really anything nefarious or wrong about that, as Ladna mentioned.<br /><br />The only thing I really regret about it is that Kandy seems to having taken me trading him personally. I don&#039;t think people should take being traded to heart. I still think Kandy is an awesome player and I actually admire his competitive spirit. But Caboose has quit IDL and I have to make adjustments to stay a competitive IDL team. In this case it involved getting another pick at mid-season.<br /><br />As far as Chain&#039;s comment. My understanding is that the team situation this season is very similar to that of Season 2, if not worse. Many teams have players quitting or ones unhappy with their teams. There are clearly some lop-sided IDL teams in less than competitive conferences. And attendance is a serious issue for almost every team this season. Trading was intended to shape up those disparities and give the last weeks more of a showing. So far it looks like it will.<br /><br />The TAIBREAKER is actually very funny. I think more things like that should become public, especially if they involve conspiring against tai.<br /><br />I agree there need to be changes, but honestly the only thing I disagree with this season are the unspoken agreements between Donut and Tenchu. THEY CANNOT BE REGULATED AND ARE SUBJECT TO NO ADMINISTRATIVE CONSEQUENCE! Then again, captains are allowed to do as they please. To my knowledge the captaining system is being mended next season. So we&#039;ll see if that provides relief from these issues.<br /><br />Chill out guys, nothing terrible has happened =)', 'xx', 1);
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	(126, 11, 2, 1214874907, 38, 126, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'Sabertooth', 'ssj4chazou@hotmail.com', '66.211.41.53', 1, 0, '', 'CUP-2<br /><br />Shakal,Saber-0<br />Shakal,Saber-2<br />Shakal,Saber-2<br /><br />LON-1<br /><br />Lockwolf,Rottking-0<br />Lockwolf,Rottking-1<br />Lockwolf,Rottking-1<br /><br />Awesome games guys. :)', 'xx', 1);
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	(127, 11, 2, 1214879216, 2, 144, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '70.102.121.145', 1, 1215026296, 'mikefails', '[size=24pt][color=teal][b]HWB-2[/b][/color][/size]<br /><br />Mikefails, Redshirt - 2<br />Mikefails, Redshirt - 2<br />Mikefails, Redshirt - 5<br /><br />[size=24pt][color=brown][b]CRK-1[/b][/color][/size]<br /><br />Mionicdonut, Roscoe - 3<br />Mionicdonut, Roscoe - 1<br />Mionicdonut, Roscoe - 1<br /><br />ggs, better late then never', 'xx', 1);
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	(128, 17, 2, 1214881884, 10, 132, 'Summer 2008 Mid-Season Draft Results', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 1214930266, 'Ralphis', 'The following players currently in Free Agency for the Mid-Season Draft are as follows:<br /><br />[b]Free Agents[/b]<br /><br />Albatross (Traded from BBS)<br />Anger (Nutz)<br />Bolt (Traded from WAD)<br />Cheez-It<br />DragonClaw<br />Eazy-E<br />Flowstone (Traded from CRK)<br />GhostlyDeath (Traded from FFF)<br />HellAwaits<br />IceyKiller (Traded from TCM)<br />JKist3<br />Kory<br />Kyte<br />Mistopher (Traded from TCM)<br />Rhombus (Traded from CTB)<br />Ripped<br />RussianDumbass<br /><br />The following is the order and transactions of the Mid-Season Draft.<br /><br /><br />[b]1. LON [trades Killingblair from Free Agency; Trades El-Link to Free Agency][/b]<br />[i][s]2. CRK [trades MSD Picks #3 &amp; #12 + Homefield pick from WAD; Trades MSD Pick #2 + Homefield pick to WAD][/s][/i]<br />[b]2. WAD [trades Chewy (PotentPotables) from Free Agency; Trades Bolt to Free Agency][/b]<br />[b]3. CRK [trades Xenaero (DD_133) from Free Agency; Trades FlowStone to Free Agency][/b]<br />[b]4. BBS [trades Whopper from Free Agency; Trades Albatross to Free Agency][/b]<br />[b]5. TCM [trades ItalianStallion from Free Agency; Trades IceyKiller to Free Agency][/b]<br />[b]6. MAD [No Transactions][/b]<br />[b]7. HWB [No Transactions][/b]<br />[b]8. TCM [trades GhoulSlayeR from Free Agency; Trades Mistopher to Free Agency][/b]<br />[b]9. FFF [trades DeathBR1ngeR from Free Agency; Trades GhostlyDeath to Free Agency][/b]<br />[b]10. CUP [Administrative change;Sabertooth takes over as captain; Trades El-Link from Free Agency][/b]<br />[b]11. CTB [trades Climhazzard from Free Agency; Trades Rhombus to Free Agency][/b]<br />[b]12. CRK [trades RadnSmash from Free Agency; Trades Caller to Free Agency][/b]', 'thumbup', 1);
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	(129, 17, 2, 1214887626, 16, 129, 'Re: Summer 2008 Mid-Season Draft', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '64.252.83.205', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;ll drop GhostlyDeath in place of DeathBringer.<br /><br />And lol @ these impatient bastards on #idl. Cry more. :D ', 'xx', 1);
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	(130, 11, 2, 1214891968, 4, 130, 'Re: Week 4 (June 23rd-29nth) : THIRTY13', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '68.62.47.157', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Sabertooth link=topic=11.msg126#msg126 date=1214874907]<br />LON-1<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Don&#039;t you mean 0?', 'xx', 1);
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	(133, 16, 2, 1214934677, 19, 133, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '12.159.3.116', 1, 1214934921, 'Xenaero', 'Although I&#039;ve said otherwise before, now that I think about it, I don&#039;t see really what the major issue is with Nos trying to get an all-NS team. I mean, look at FFF, they&#039;re basically all R. No one bitched about that. In his defense, which I mean this sincerely, he&#039;s playing this strategically to get the best team he possibly can. No one can blame him for that, and I don&#039;t see how it&#039;s underhanded unless I&#039;m missing something. Was there deception involved?<br /><br />On the other hand, I really despise how PotentPotables said he wouldn&#039;t play on a given team, if selected. That&#039;s just despicable. You&#039;ve been playing this game for how long? I expected more sportsmanship from you. I was under the assumption that the IDL was mainly for getting people together and creating a fun atmosphere where you meet new people in the process, etc. I know I certainly have come across guys I otherwise might never have crossed paths or better yet be on good terms with. There&#039;s definitely a competitive atmosphere, sure. But, holy hell, don&#039;t you have enough of a sense of honor to play for the team that wants you, instead of having a tizzy over it for whatever reason. Hey, I think because I&#039;m not on the same team as my clanmate that I&#039;ll bitch and moan until someone gets tired of me and moves me to another team.<br /><br />That&#039;s the kind of attitude that no one appreciates. Fuck you.<br /><br />[quote author=nostar link=topic=16.msg124#msg124 date=1214867801]The only thing I really regret about it is that Kandy seems to having taken me trading him personally. I don&#039;t think people should take being traded to heart. I still think Kandy is an awesome player and I actually admire his competitive spirit. But Caboose has quit IDL and I have to make adjustments to stay a competitive IDL team. In this case it involved getting another pick at mid-season.[/quote]<br /><br />Well yeah that&#039;s understandable from a captain&#039;s viewpoint, but you be part of the team whose record you helped carry on your shoulders for the last few weeks and then get booted off. See how ya feel then. This game is competitive but you know the community is small enough to where everyone knows each other and it&#039;d be stupid to think that it wouldn&#039;t generate bad feelings towards each other, even temporarily. We&#039;re all human and to expect otherwise is a little ludicrous.&nbsp; ::)', 'xx', 1);
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	(9348, 944, 31, 1379376791, 157, 9348, 'Re: congrats on kgb''s win', 'Legion_', 'skulltaglegion@hotmail.com', '71.170.254.82', 1, 0, '', 'to be fair, playing against the port came up on zdaemon too.<br /><br />so I guess the ultimate message is that we need to play remood', 'xx', 1);
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	(135, 16, 2, 1214963360, 1, 136, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1214966721, 'Ladna', 'Now that the flaming and misinformed nonsense is over, let me inform the entirety of this audience to what really happened.<br /><br />I clearly had intentions of getting at least 1 if not both of the NS signups on my team. I actually gambled pretty big to try and get it done. There is nothing sneaky or wrong about doing that, anymore so than wanting good players on yr team at any draft. I talked with other captains and everything was on the up-and-up.<br /><br />Now, when draft time came I was told by another interested captain that Donut would draft Potent. Potent (in confidence) told some people he hangs out with that he didn&#039;t want to play with Donut. HE NEVER EVER SAID THIS TO DONUT. The fact that it got to Donut is unfortunate. And actually Donut messaged Potent and Potent said he&#039;d play for him. Then Donut surprised him with a quote and he said he didn&#039;t really want to.<br /><br />Let me be 100% clear. There is absolutely no difference between what Potent did during mid-season draft and what Whiteboy did at the beginning of the season. And further to that point, there is nothing wrong with telling a captain you&#039;d rather not play for them. It&#039;s good information for EVERY captain to have. Now could Donut have drafted Potent anyway, YES. And to my knowledge Potent would have showed for every IDL game like he always has.<br /><br />Also, let me be an antagonist for a moment and say that the main source of criticism came from Shakal who, a.) didn&#039;t know a thing about what had actually happened and b.) has abandoned his IDL responsibilities (that&#039;s right folks) 3 times! Just to put the bickering in perspective.<br /><br />Now that that&#039;s out of the way, Xen I realize that being on a team creates certain dynamics and relationships etc. But c&#039;mon, I got traded away from the Masterbowl team last season. It&#039;s really just a game and people have to accept the trading possibilities, and accept player preferences as non-personal. Either that or we just don&#039;t get to trade which in my experience is a lot of fun. I still think Kandy is one of the top CTF players as far as his abilities. The American Southwest is just not doom-friendly =( .<br /><br />So rail all you want, but no rules were broken, all teams are still in playoff standing and the season is still gonna be loads of fun. And if you&#039;re still butthurt about how things went down, post yr ideas at the end of the season for how to fix things. Constructive criticism is GREATLY APPRECIATED and will be seriously considered. No sarcasm, no lie.<br /><br />EDIT: there was a your/you&#039;re that was driving me nuts, terribly sorry', 'xx', 1);
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	(136, 16, 2, 1214964935, 17, 136, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 1214965044, 'MionicDonut', 'Okay im also going to put my side of the story in here.&nbsp; As i think this thing is coming out a little worse that it seems.&nbsp; <br /><br />First and foremost, Nostars testimony regarding the potent fiasco is true on my part.&nbsp; Potent never said flat out to me that he would not play.&nbsp; But when i asked if he didnt really want to play he confessed to it.&nbsp; This was only after a few fellow captains said he wouldnt play.&nbsp; The sole reason i didnt pick potent is i needed TWO reliable players, and Nostar was willing to give me a second trade in return for giving him Potent. i still find this whole trade thing to be one of the biggest irony-fests since the great antacid laboratory of 2007, and i feel just as sickened by it now as i was by that then.&nbsp; Thank the powers that be this one ended without me throwing up. <br /><br />I say we just&nbsp; move onward to week 5,&nbsp; and pretend none of this ever happened.', 'xx', 1);
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	(137, 16, 2, 1214969821, 7, 137, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=16.msg133#msg133 date=1214934677]<br />Although I&#039;ve said otherwise before, now that I think about it, I don&#039;t see really what the major issue is with Nos trying to get an all-NS team. I mean, look at FFF, they&#039;re basically all R. No one bitched about that.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />TCM was basically all [SIN] too, so was TXT (and now CTB is all [UD]).&nbsp; I don&#039;t think Shakal was bitching in his post (and even though I didn&#039;t mean to, I probably came off that way myself), he was just trying to foil Nostar.&nbsp; IMO, familiarity and chemistry is more important than skill... up to a point, so I think it makes perfect sense to draft clanmates.&nbsp; Nothing wrong with that!<br /><br />[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=16.msg133#msg133 date=1214934677]<br />On the other hand, I really despise how PotentPotables said he wouldn&#039;t play on a given team, if selected. That&#039;s just despicable.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=Chain link=topic=16.msg122#msg122 date=1214861642]<br />Jkist tried to pull the same thing in season 2, when it was me that suggested he sign up (for fun/competition, of course). Basically he has the disclaimer in place so that if a &quot;lesser&quot; team gets him, he can fall back on it. If someone HE likes or he considers &quot;good&quot; picks him, then it&#039;s all great.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Other players do basically the same thing, whether they:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Tell a captain they &quot;won&#039;t be on much&quot; during the season[/li]<br />[li]Tell a captain they &quot;don&#039;t think they play well together&quot;[/li]<br />[li]Harass their captain to trade them[/li]<br />[li]Tell a captain they simply won&#039;t play for them[/li]<br />[li]Quit showing up altogether[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />As far as I can figure, there&#039;s really only 3 things Ralphis could do about it (I certainly don&#039;t speak for him tho):<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Bar players from signing up with a &quot;disclaimer&quot;, whether in IRC or on the forums or w/e[/li]<br />[li]Suspend or ban players who have chronic attendance problems[/li]<br />[li]Keep lower skilled players from captaining[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />I think that the 3rd option is pretty unnecessary, just because the midseason draft usually fixes it (if you don&#039;t trade all your picks away, use your picks, and use them wisely...).&nbsp; I [b]do[/b] think that you should be committed to playing all of your games if you sign up for IDL.&nbsp; I [b]don&#039;t[/b] think that you have to be excited about playing for any captain who might draft you.<br /><br />I&#039;ve been fortunate enough to be on competitive teams both the seasons I&#039;ve been in IDL, but I know for a fact that players on non-competitive teams grouse about it, and I also know for a fact that players worry about getting drafted onto non-competitive teams.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a big deal at all.&nbsp; It sounds like that&#039;s all Potent was doing, and I honestly think there&#039;s a difference between telling a captain you&#039;d rather not play for them and the stuff in the list up there.&nbsp; There&#039;s plenty of examples of players doing classless things in IDL, but this is one of the most severe flames I&#039;ve seen and I don&#039;t understand why, especially given that Potent&#039;s reputation and attendance are pretty good.&nbsp; I mean, isn&#039;t anyone upset that Tenchu &quot;verbally agreed&quot; to play a weak lineup against CRK in exchange for a midseason pick?&nbsp; What does his team think about that, given that it probably would have kept them from the playoffs?&nbsp; I think anyone would say that&#039;s 10000000x worse than telling a captain you don&#039;t want them to draft you (if that&#039;s even bad), but no one&#039;s flaming Tenchu (or Donut, for proposing it).&nbsp; Not that I think they should be flamed (and I really don&#039;t want to get into it), I&#039;m just saying the reactions seem way off balance.', 'xx', 1);
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	(138, 18, 2, 1214986475, 1, 155, 'Week 5 (June 30th - July 6th) : ZDCTFMP15', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1215434815, 'nostar', '[size=10pt][b]Official Servers for Week 4 of IDL Summer 2008[/b][/size]<br /><br />NY:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Cool Servers! (NY) - IDL #1<br />206.71.149.137:10103<br />Password = seasonfour<br />[/li][li]<br />Cool Servers! (NY) - IDL #2<br />206.71.149.137:10104<br />Password = seasonfour[/li][/list]<br /><br />TT:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li][International Doom League Week 5 - ZDCTFMP15 - A]<br />69.64.49.142:11022<br />Password= seasonfour[/list]<br /><br />[list]<br />[li][International Doom League Week 5 - ZDCTFMP15 - B]<br />69.64.49.142:11032<br />Password= seasonfour[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br /><br /><br />Post predictions, arrangements, and results here.<br /><br />CAPTAINS, MAKE ARRANGEMENTS AND POST THE AGREED GAME TIME IN THIS THREAD.<br /><br />GAME TIMES<br />-------------------<br />CTB v WAD: 10pm Saturday, July 5th<br />DPT v CUP:<br />BBS v RNB: 6pm Saturday, July 5th<br />FFF v CRK:&nbsp; 9pm Saturday, July 5th<br />LoN v HWB:', 'xx', 1);
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	(139, 18, 2, 1214987291, 1, 153, 'Re: Week 5 (June 30th - July 6th) : ZDCTFMP15', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1215313826, 'nostar', '[size=10pt][b]***WEEK 4 DEMOS NEEDED***[/b][/size]<br /><br />HexVulture&nbsp;  (Please re-upload your demo under the correct week)<br /><br />Please submit your POV demos at http://www.intldoomleague.org/demos/ [b]under the correct week[/b] before you play in your next IDL game!', 'xx', 1);
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	(140, 16, 2, 1215017564, 4, 140, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '68.62.47.157', 1, 1215017750, 'Tenchu', '[quote author=Ladna link=topic=16.msg137#msg137 date=1214969821]<br />I mean, isn&#039;t anyone upset that Tenchu &quot;verbally agreed&quot; to play a weak lineup against CRK in exchange for a midseason pick?[/quote]<br /><br />The fuck? I never agreed to any such thing. *Maybe* you should get your facts straight before slamming on your keyboard. Thanks.', 'xx', 1);
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	(174, 20, 2, 1216077040, 17, 174, 'Re: Week 7 (Jul 14 - Jul 20) : ODA04', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 0, '', '&lt;MionicDonut&gt;	we need to schedule match<br />&lt;Tenchu&gt;	tonight, 9pm est<br />&lt;Tenchu&gt;	done<br />&lt;MionicDonut&gt;	o_O<br />&lt;MionicDonut&gt;	if you insist<br /><br />CRK vs HWB<br />Monday, July 14th at 9 PM EST', 'xx', 1);
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	(9464, 964, 31, 1384225989, 216, 9464, 'Re: Theory of the downfall of IDL and what it means for Winter 2013', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '174.92.58.50', 1, 0, '', 'DONT YOU MEAN WINTER 2014?!?! NOOB GET OUTTA MY FACE', 'xx', 1);
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	(141, 16, 2, 1215021888, 17, 141, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ladna link=topic=16.msg137#msg137 date=1214969821]<br /><br /><br /> but no one&#039;s flaming Tenchu (or Donut, for proposing it).&nbsp; Not that I think they should be flamed (and I really don&#039;t want to get into it), I&#039;m just saying the reactions seem way off balance.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Except for you of course.<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna](because Donut made, IMO, the stupidest, most idiotic and weak deal of the century... multiple times now).[/quote]<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(142, 16, 2, 1215022250, 8, 142, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@zdaemon.org', '151.203.60.18', 1, 0, '', 'I kept trying to think of some smart way to tell all of you to shut the fuck up and stop whining, but nothing was coming to me.<br /><br />Shut the fuck up. Stop whining. There, that was easy. To elaborate..<br /><br />What Chewy did was mean and that makes him a big fat [i]meanie[/i], right? Right, and there&#039;s nothing else to it. The system doesn&#039;t need to be &quot;corrected&quot; or &quot;fixed&quot;. How can you &quot;correct&quot; someones desire to play on a different team, and how can you &quot;fix&quot; someones desire to win? You can&#039;t.<br /><br />I know for a fact he&#039;s not the only one ever in life (and I guess to be more specific to avoid over-analyzing scum, the IDL) to feel that way. Besides, the rules don&#039;t say you can&#039;t be an asshole. Also, Donut could have drafted him anyway. Nobody was stopping him. Chewy could have refused to play, resulting in another pick for Donut and an ended (although one had yet to begin) season for Chewy.<br /><br />I&#039;m not trying to come in here and act like I know every single little detail about the situation, because I don&#039;t. I&#039;m just saying I think this is just the case of someone being an asshole. <br /><br />[quote=Ladna on July 01, 2008, 10:37:01 PM]TCM was basically all [SIN] too, so was TXT (and now CTB is all [UD]).[/quote] <br />I know nobody has really said anything about this, but if you&#039;re under the impression I&#039;m not going to use Martyr anymore, you&#039;re wrong.', 'xx', 1);
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	(143, 16, 2, 1215024682, 7, 143, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.29.97', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=HumanBones link=topic=16.msg142#msg142 date=1215022250]<br />I know nobody has really said anything about this, but if you&#039;re under the impression I&#039;m not going to use Martyr anymore, you&#039;re wrong.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Nah, I was just leaving out the 4th player of all the teams to make the point.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think any team&#039;s ever gotten 4 clanmates together, former or otherwise.<br /><br />And re: Tenchu &amp; Donut, I really am not going to get into it.&nbsp; If you want to talk to me specifically, there&#039;s about 6 different ways to get ahold of me.&nbsp; Even though I maintain all of my positions, and I&#039;ll be happy to talk about whatever (obviously I love to... read what I type I guess) I don&#039;t see how our disagreements benefit the community at this point.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(144, 18, 2, 1215025727, 2, 144, 'Re: Week 5 (June 30th - July 6th) : ZDCTFMP15', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '70.102.121.145', 1, 0, '', 'mike&#039;s week5 predictions:<br /><br />[b]ContraBanned v We&#039;re All Doomed - DIV[/b]<br />This week will see the end of one of our undefeated teams and the question, of course, is which team?&nbsp; After the midseason trading finished, it appears that WAD&#039;s chances are pretty slim at this point.&nbsp; With the loss of the kandy_kid to HWB and with caboose leaving idl, it will be up to their new superstar chewy to save them.&nbsp; The problem, however; is that this map isn&#039;t very superstar friendly, with easy to block flag routes and a larger importance being based on teamwork.&nbsp; The other problem being that Nero, while an excellent player, has little to no experience playing for wad.<br />[i]Contras doom WAD&#039;s perfect season 2-0.[/i]<br /><br />[b]Deep Thrusts v Cupid Stunts - DIV[/b]<br />Deep Thrusts is looking better than ever after shutting down FFF last week with only 1 flag lost.&nbsp; They will definitely benefit from the combined running abilities of Oath and Midian as they did last week.&nbsp; The Cupid Stunts, having lost a great player and their captain, will have to double their efforts under their new captain, Sabertooth, in order to be effective on this map.&nbsp; They did gain a great defensive player in Hatred and hopefully this will help ease the loss of their captain.<br />[i]Deep Thrusts rams their way to victory through the Cupid Stunts 2-1.[/i]<br /><br />[b]Bang Bros v Reign In Blood - DIV[/b]<br />I&#039;m not too sure what to say for this match, except maybe lol.&nbsp; Lets hope whopper shows up and can ease the beating the Bros seem sure to receive from the IDL&#039;s most heavily stacked team.<br />[i]Reign In Blood turns the sewers red with the Bros blood in a 2-0 shutout.[/i]<br /><br />[b]Frag Fags &amp; Flag v Cereal Killers - DIV[/b]<br />The Fag Fraggers are coming off a rough loss last week with a no show from their first round draft Bloodstrike.&nbsp; The Cereal Killers also come from a rough last week, but have altered their team in the hopes to capture their division.&nbsp; With the gain of a valuable defensive player, Xenaero, hopefully this can leave Donut and Rudy lots of opportunities to double team the Fag Fraggers defense and get some flags.&nbsp; Tai is pretty pissed about OPERATION: TAIBREAKER and will most likely summon Bloodstrike from the depths of whatever mexican hell he resides in to deliver an epic thrashing to the Cereal Killers.<br />[i]The Fag Fraggers murder the Killers in a 2-0 victory.[/i]<br /><br />[b]Lords of Nigeria v Hot Wax Bandits[/b]<br />Two teams that started off very weak in the season have been revitalized and instilled with confidence and new players.&nbsp; RottKing gets a fantastic partner and clanmate, Killingblair, to work with coming into week5.&nbsp; The&nbsp; Bandits have gotten Kandy_Kid as an all around player to bring some pain to the game.&nbsp; This map is going to take some teamwork and the Bandits are ready to take it all the way.&nbsp; Predicting against my team worked last week, so heres how its gonna go.<br />[i]The Nigerians show us who the real Bandits are in a 2-1 struggle.[/i]', 'xx', 1);
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	(646, 81, 6, 1235689727, 10, 1023, 'Re: IDL WINTER 2009 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.15.110.27', 1, 1250900029, 'Ralphis', '[color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color]<br />RottKing<br />Nostar<br />Chaindude<br />PotentPotables<br />Tai<br /><br />[color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color]<br />HumanBones<br />Mikehail<br />Mortalogy<br />Caboose<br />Mid', 'xx', 1);
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	(944, 118, 10, 1247174279, 19, 944, 'Re: Ralphis &amp; IDL Organization', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '69.68.242.123', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;ll fill you in more ways than one, babe', 'xx', 1);
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	(145, 4, 2, 1215028622, 7, 243, 'Re: Demo Upload Engine', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.29.97', 1, 1218140230, 'Ladna', '[size=16pt][b]*** Updates to the Demo Upload Engine ***[/b][/size]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]-- Sometime in Early June 2008[/b][/size]<br /><br />&nbsp; - Added column sorting so insanity can be avoided (a filtering system would be better)<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]-- Later in June 2008[/b][/size]<br /><br />&nbsp; - Added automatic week selection based upon the current date<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]-- July 2, 2008[/b][/size]<br /><br />&nbsp; - Added WAD name and map number to the week drop-down list.&nbsp; If confusion continues this week,<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; I&#039;ll change the start/end dates from 12am Monday to... 4am Monday or something.<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]-- July 10, 2008[/b][/size]<br /><br />&nbsp; - Modified the entire logic to hard-code Team1 and Team2 in the database.&nbsp; Previously this was<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; dynamically generated based upon the player&#039;s current team... which broke when players were<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; traded or dropped from IDL altogether.&nbsp; The system will still break if a traded player attempts to<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; upload a demo for a week where he/she played on a different team, but solving that is more<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; effort than I&#039;m willing to expend.<br />&nbsp; - Figured out why the Week was rolling over too soon, the server runs on GMT.&nbsp; Added EST/EDT<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; offset.<br />&nbsp; - Added an admin section to modify/register/unregister players.&nbsp; This avoids logging into the DB<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; every time a player edit needs to be made.<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]-- July 29, 2008[/b][/size]<br /><br />&nbsp; - Fixed registering/unregistering players in the admin section.&nbsp; This fixes problems with demos disappearing or<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; being displayed incorrectly after a player is unregistered.<br />&nbsp; - Fixed authentication failures when players used their IDL player name instead of their forum name.&nbsp; This almost<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; never came up because these names are usually identical, but players with different names could not use<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; their player name to log in.<br />&nbsp; - Added a demo modification/deletion portion to the admin section.&nbsp; This avoids logging into<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; the DB every time someone uploads their demo to the wrong week.<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]-- August 7, 2008[/b][/size]<br /><br />&nbsp; - Added wildcard homefields so demo auto-naming still works as expected (hopefully)', 'xx', 1);
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	(146, 16, 2, 1215037647, 16, 146, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '76.255.11.236', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=16.msg133#msg133 date=1214934677]<br />Although I&#039;ve said otherwise before, now that I think about it, I don&#039;t see really what the major issue is with Nos trying to get an all-NS team. I mean, look at FFF, they&#039;re basically all R. No one bitched about that.[/quote]<br /><br />In full disclosure, I drafted my fellow clan members at the beginning of the season, and my mid season change involved no clan members entering or leaving. The contreversy wiith Nostar appearently lies in the dramatic trading and midseason periods. <br /><br />Just wanted to point that out. : )', 'xx', 1);
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	(147, 18, 2, 1215037908, 16, 147, 'Re: Week 5 (June 30th - July 6th) : ZDCTFMP15', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '76.255.11.236', 1, 0, '', 'The current confirmed time for CRK vs FFF has been agreed upon to be Saturday at 9 PM EST. <br /><br />: )', 'xx', 1);
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	(148, 18, 2, 1215042821, 4, 148, 'Re: Week 5 (June 30th - July 6th) : ZDCTFMP15', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '68.62.47.157', 1, 0, '', 'HWB and LON have agreed to play on Sunday, sometime between 6-8PM EST.', 'xx', 1);
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	(149, 18, 2, 1215043986, 17, 149, 'Re: Week 5 (June 30th - July 6th) : ZDCTFMP15', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Tai link=topic=18.msg147#msg147 date=1215037908]<br />The current confirmed time for CRK vs FFF has been agreed upon to be Saturday at 9 PM EST. <br /><br />: )<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Confirming it<br /><br />This is the first time in recorded history Tai and I have agreed on anything...ever.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1054, 133, 10, 1251350892, 11, 1054, 'Re: IDL SUMMER 2009 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'Doomguy666', 'xdoomguy666x@hotmail.com', '96.18.26.78', 1, 0, '', 'Hahah yeah I had a lot of time on my hands&nbsp; ;D', 'xx', 1);
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	(1868, 218, 12, 1274657174, 7, 1868, 'Re: Summer 2010 Draft Discussion', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 1274658036, 'Ladna', 'I want to start off by saying there was no FLS system.&nbsp; We basically showed up in the server and I team-chatted &quot;everyone do what you want&quot;.&nbsp; This worked roughly 62.5% of the time, and might have been even more successful had I not fucked up scheduling a couple times and gotten into a car wreck.&nbsp; This is because my teammates were awesome, I can&#039;t recommend each of them enough.<br /><br />Lastly, if you&#039;ve been reading through this thread and you haven&#039;t seen your name, don&#039;t worry yet.&nbsp; We&#039;re currently discussing some ideas that would allow more players to play during the season.&nbsp; Do not lose hope yet :) .<br /><br />[b][size=5]EBL - Xenaero[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 1[/size][/b]<br /><br />Whiteboy is the obvious choice because he&#039;s like a golden ticket, and I know that Xenaero loves golden tickets.&nbsp; However, they both have pretty strong personalities, which could cause some problems in the locker room.&nbsp; The risk is definitely worth it, because a Xen/White team could have almost anyone run for them and still be successful... which is important because Xen is looking at 16th pick in round 2.<br /><br />White would also add a lot of versatility to Xen&#039;s team because of his excellent covering and offensive opportunism.&nbsp; It&#039;s hard for me to see the Bills succeeding this season without picking up Whiteboy here, despite other seemingly reasonable options like mikehail and RussianDumbass.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 16[/size][/b]<br /><br />Picking so far down in the 2nd round is difficult.&nbsp; The Bills will need a runner, and at this stage you&#039;re looking at a European player (Gyrossman, Nero, dewww) or a younger player like X-Ray.&nbsp; If, by some horrible mistake, Gyross isn&#039;t picked he&#039;s a total grab, otherwise I think I&#039;d pick up Beast here.&nbsp; X-Ray is the last-ditch option, but he has surprising potential and superb laghax.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 17[/size][/b]<br /><br />Xenaero has a great opportunity to pick up a stellar Euro here; alternately he could team up with Strangle again this season - who provided the Bills with a much needed lift after he was pulled from free agency.&nbsp; There are maps (map18) that don&#039;t suit high-ping runners very well, so if he does pick up a Euro runner at Pick 16, he would do well to pick an NA player like Strangle or Donut to fill in that gap.<br /><br />[b][size=5]DMR - Goatface[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 2[/size][/b]<br /><br />The Raiders are gonna need frags, and there are plenty of fraggers available in the 2nd draft position.&nbsp; ItalianStallion, RussianDumbass and RottKing are all players who can put the hurt on the other team, but I think that Rus provides the Raiders with the most versatility and coordination - which they&#039;ll need as well.&nbsp; Goat will have to put together a smart team that practices, however, and Rus is a notorious nightowl/scumbag.&nbsp; He might do well to have some conversations with those three players to find out who&#039;s the best fit.&nbsp; Although Goat&#039;s on Mountain Time (hilariously), so the time difference between he and Rus might equal out.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 15[/size][/b]<br /><br />This is a tough pick for Goat, because he&#039;s already got a pinging runner (himself) so he&#039;ll need to pick up someone who can at least break even in frags and provide offensive cover and defensive support... but at Pick 15 that might not be available.&nbsp; Strangle is a good option here as is Beast, but past that Goat&#039;s forced to put a lot of weight on the shoulders of a player like Dreever, Acolyte, Mistopher, or Climhazzard.&nbsp; I think he should be very careful to avoid attendance problems, so he should definitely have a serious talk with any player before he chooses them at this position.&nbsp; This pick is probably make or break for the Raiders.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 18[/size][/b]<br /><br />With a high 3rd round pick, Goatface can afford to take a chance on an unproven player like Dreever, Malignity, OurHero, Hourglass and so on, or a player with past issues like Climhazzard.&nbsp; He&#039;ll still want to have a talk with potential candidates though.<br /><br />[b][size=5]KGB - Tai[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 3[/size][/b]<br /><br />I would guess that Tai was a little disenchanted with mikehail last season.&nbsp; While he did post the highest flags/round stat and put serious time into getting standout rookie DevastatioN into shape, he also had spotty attendance that cost them crucial wins, including the IDC Championships.&nbsp; If I were Tai I would want dependability, and I think that the most dependable player he can draft at this position is ItalianStallion.&nbsp; Drafting Stallion gives Tai lots of options, as both Tai and Stallion can play all three positions, and it also gives them enormous frag power.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 14[/size][/b]<br /><br />Sneaky Euro runner or promising young runner.&nbsp; Legion has shown he&#039;s capable of scoring flags on a high-fragging team, MionicDonut has been a successful runner in the past, and of course, a European player could be pigeonholed here as well.&nbsp; It&#039;s probably too much to hope for Gyross, but surely one of Nero, dewww, Swiftshot or Vampire will remain.&nbsp; Tai&#039;s 3rd round pick might be a little late to compensate for a high-ping player with a newer, low-ping player, so he might want to play it safe and pick Legion, Donut, or even Acolyte or Sunoska (who claims he is the best runner in DOOM).<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 19[/size][/b]<br /><br />At Pick 19, Tai should look for an overlooked player (like Dreever or Souler), otherwise he should choose the player with the highest chance of showing up.<br /><br />[b][size=5]BSK - Jenova[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 4[/size][/b]<br /><br />I think that Jenova is in that elite club of runners who are dominant in 3v3 (Potentpotables, Ralphis, and mikehail are the others), and there&#039;s no way he really could do better than himself.&nbsp; His offense is probably effective enough that he could field a below-average defense and still just outscore teams.&nbsp; That said, it&#039;s hard to see a dominant defender lasting until Pick 4, so he should look instead for defensive players who are above-average in teamwork.&nbsp; I think in this category, the choices are RottKing, midian, Killingblair, Collision, and Hatred.&nbsp; If I had to guess I&#039;d say that Blair will have the best attendance, but his connection is intermittently shitty also.&nbsp; This pick is very important to Jenova&#039;s success, so he should spend some time investigating his options (when players are available, connection quality, vacations, etc.).<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 13[/size][/b]<br /><br />Picking 5th in the 2nd round isn&#039;t terrible, and the Packers have an opportunity to pick up an excellent 3rd like Collision, Hatred, Joshsmith, Mantis-X or Ladna.&nbsp; This choice should depend on who he drafts in Round 1 in terms of scheduling and personalities.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 20[/size][/b]<br /><br />Jenova should use this pick to pull a promising young player away from a team like SPE or BBC.&nbsp; I believe [b]hatedraft[/b] is the word.<br /><br />[b][size=5]BBC - Nostar[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 5[/size][/b]<br /><br />It&#039;s hard to say what&#039;s going through Nostar&#039;s mind.&nbsp; On the one hand he&#039;s insanely competitive, so he&#039;ll want to go for the throat with his draft pick.&nbsp; On the other hand he&#039;s won 3 Masterbowls in a row, so he might be looking for a change up.&nbsp; He&#039;s earned his reputation as the soulless, shit-talking, defensive brick wall over season after season of being confined to the flag room, so it&#039;s possible that the monotony of it all will flush him out into the offense.&nbsp; Nostar is most successful when playing with an above average runner, at this position that&#039;s mikehail if he survives, or Sabertooth and Gyrossman.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 12[/size][/b]<br /><br />The Cowboys&#039; 2nd round pick should be the same type of player that the Raiders are looking for, a player who can at least break even in frags and provide offensive cover and defensive support.&nbsp; It&#039;s easier to find a player like that for the Cowboys, however, they might have their pick of Collision, Joshsmith, Mantis-X or Ladna.&nbsp; This pick isn&#039;t as crucial for Nostar as it is for Goatface or Xenaero, so some kind of deal might occur in the near future, perhaps some kind of [b]lovedraft[/b].<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 21[/size][/b]<br /><br />Nostar will [b]benchdraft[/b] a player he hates.&nbsp; Look out Sunoska.<br /><br />[b][size=5]FLS - LordBritish[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 6[/size][/b]<br /><br />It&#039;s possible that LordBritish is also an unstoppable runner when it comes to 3v3.&nbsp; However, last season he generally took a back seat to Jenova.&nbsp; This season is packed with maps that a player like LB can light up, so I think we&#039;ll see great things from the Steelers... even though their draft position isn&#039;t great.&nbsp; In light of that, LordBritish needs to do his best to secure a solid backfield, and I think the best players to do that at this position are Hatred, Collision and Killingblair.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 11[/size][/b]<br /><br />Depending on his 1st round pick, the Steelers may need some extra frag power.&nbsp; Most of the players at this position (Collision, Hatred, midian, Ladna, Joshsmith) have a pretty good feel for the game, but really only Hatred, Collision or midian could satisfy the frag requirement.&nbsp; midian would be a huge get here IMO.&nbsp; British could go WAAAAAAY out on a limb and pick Gyrossman, but only if he&#039;s confident in the fragging ability of both his 1st pick and himself.&nbsp; The maps this season might allow him to get away with this overall, even if some are very anti-high-ping.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 22[/size][/b]<br /><br />Good Luck.<br /><br />[b][size=5]SPE - Shadow_Ghost[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 7[/size][/b]<br /><br />The Eagles need their captain to play defense this season and try to put together a well-coordinated offense made up of IDL veterans.&nbsp; The names that jump out at me immediately are Sabertooth, midian, Mantis-X and Ladna.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 10[/size][/b]<br /><br />Denny needs to search deep inside himself, and decide whether or not he can lock down the defense all by himself.&nbsp; If he can, he can pick up a player like Mantis-X or Ladna and send them to clear the way for the runner he picks up in Round 1.&nbsp; It&#039;s been a while since Mantis and Denny played together, so I think one way or another they&#039;ll pair up.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 23[/size][/b]<br /><br />Good Luck.<br /><br />[b][size=5]SUC - Ralphis[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Picks 8 and 9[/size][/b]<br /><br />I put the Chargers&#039; 1st two picks together because that&#039;s how I think Ralphis should view it.&nbsp; He needs to draft a team and his position gives him that opportunity.&nbsp; On the one hand he&#039;s in a great position to spoil drafts for other teams as well; drafting Ladna robs lots of teams of that special sauce they need in Round 2, drafting Mantis breaks Denny&#039;s heart, drafting Collision or Hatred potentially spoils FLS&#039; chances, so he should be aware of who he&#039;s stealing with his pick at the 9th position.&nbsp; On the other hand, if Ralphis wants to win 2 Masterbowls in a row, he&#039;ll need to go for the win here.&nbsp; If it were me and I was a dominant player like Ralphis (at basically any position), I&#039;d pick the 2 remaining players from the top 9 players and make a run at another championship.&nbsp; The field&#039;s just exactly deep enough here for this to be an extremely effective strategy.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 24[/size][/b]<br /><br />Good Luck.<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />Overall, here&#039;s how I think teams will shake out:<br /><br />[b][size=3]Electric Bills[/size][/b]<br />Xenaero, Whiteboy, Gyrossman, X-Ray<br /><br />[b][size=3]Doom Raiders[/size][/b]<br />Goatface, RussianDumbass/ItalianStallion, Strangle, Climhazzard<br /><br />[b][size=3]Killing Browns[/size][/b]<br />Tai, RussianDumbass/ItalianStallion, Beast, Legion<br /><br />[b][size=3]Berserker Packers[/size][/b]<br />Jenova, RottKing, Joshsmith, Dreever<br /><br />[b][size=3]Brokeback Cowboys[/size][/b]<br />Nostar, mikehail, Ladna, Souler<br /><br />[b][size=3]Flag Steelers[/size][/b]<br />LordBritish, Killingblair, midian, Mandolore<br /><br />[b][size=3]Spread Eagles[/size][/b]<br />Shadow_Ghost, Mantis-X, Hatred, Nero<br /><br />[b][size=3]Super Chargers[/size][/b]<br />Ralphis, Sabertooth, Collision, Roscoe<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(329, 37, 6, 1226213714, 69, 329, 'Re: IDL Signups Open', 'Goatface', 'roger.banango@gmail.com', '76.178.129.246', 1, 0, '', 'Name: Goatface<br />Country: USA<br />Email Contact: roger.banango@gmail.com<br />Instant Message Contact: styxtheape (AIM)&nbsp; &nbsp; rarely used', 'xx', 1);
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	(150, 18, 2, 1215101106, 10, 150, 'Re: Week 5 (June 30th - July 6th) : ZDCTFMP15', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 0, '', '[b]ContraBanned v We&#039;re All Doomed - DIV[/b]<br />Chewy and Nostar? Not a match for me. 2-0 shutout.<br />[i]CTB smuggles their way to 4-0 with a 2 game shutout.[/i]<br /><br />[b]Deep Thrusts v Cupid Stunts - DIV[/b]<br />In the midst of the train wreck that was week 4, CUP&#039;s captain abandoned his team leaving Cupid Stunts in quite the predicament. As much as I&#039;d like to see the retooled CUP win this game, I find it highly unlikely it can happen against the new DPT powerhouse that we saw take on FFF in week 4. However, we&#039;ve seen Sabertooth perform some miracles before. I hope CUP can prove me wrong.<br />[i]Deep Thrusts take control of the West in a 2-0 game.[/i]<br /><br />[b]Bang Bros v Reign In Blood - DIV[/b]<br />BBS is a good team but to even stand a remote chance in hell they need to get Whopper on and practice their asses off in preparation for this game. I doubt this will happen.<br />[i]Bang Bros blood will rain due to Reign. 2-0 RNB[/i]<br /><br />[b]Frag Fags &amp; Flag v Cereal Killers - DIV[/b]<br />Despite speculation that Bloodstrike will show up for this week&#039;s bout, I doubt it will occur and a practiced team of Donut, Roscoe, and the newest addition Xenaero should be able to overtake Tai, Beast, and Deathbringer here. It should be one of the closer games of the week.<br />[i]CRK shows FFF some new trix 2-1.[/i]<br /><br />[b]Lords of Nigeria v Hot Wax Bandits[/b]<br />Two ridiculously ailing teams now have some firepower to throw around entering week 5. The Hot Wax Bandits show up with IDL Veteran and Winter 2008 MVP Kandy Kid while the Lords of Nigeria bring aboard another IDL veteran and former divisional champion captain, Killingblair. This should be a formidable bout and I think both teams will put up strong fights against eachother. With that said, I expect a 2-0 from LON who should squeak by both rounds with a win by one or two flags.<br />[i]LON begins their revival and puts a win on the board 2-0[/i]', 'xx', 1);
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	(151, 18, 2, 1215191239, 1, 151, 'Re: Week 5 (June 30th - July 6th) : ZDCTFMP15', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', '[i][b]ContraBanned v We&#039;re All Doomed - DIV[/b][/i]<br />I&#039;m going to drown Ralphis in the sewers. Bones will be spared tho.<br />Have to wad up this contraband before the cops bust us. [b]2-0 WAD[/b]<br /><br />[i][b]Deep Thrusts v Cupid Stunts - DIV[/b][/i]<br />Envy has one of the most versatile lineups in the IDL. I foresee some monster runs by Midian and Oath being uncharacteristically defensive.<br />Deep Thrusts do it quick and dirty. [b]2-0 DPT[/b]<br /><br />[i][b]Bang Bros v Reign In Blood - DIV[/b][/i]<br />I think whopper will show up and play, but the lack of practice will make them easy marks for RNB.<br />BBS gets washed into the sewers by the Reign. [b]2-0 RNB<br />[/b]<br />[i][b]Frag Fags &amp; Flag v Cereal Killers - DIV[/b][/i]<br />Even if Blood doesn&#039;t show up the teams are still pretty evenly matched. I&#039;m giving it to Tai this week.<br />FFF fags their way to victory. [b]2-0 FFF[/b]<br /><br />[i][b]Lords of Nigeria v Hot Wax Bandits[/b][/i]<br />Mike and Kandy are ballers. &#039;nough said. I&#039;d like to see Tenchu playing coach and letting his new lineup run wild.<br />HWB rips the wax off their Nigerian overlords. [b]2-1 HWB[/b]', 'xx', 1);
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	(7294, 715, 17, 1345268736, 1328, 7294, 'Re: I''m banned', 'Mobius', 'hustler_0ne@hotmail.com', '184.97.220.200', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ru5tK1ng link=topic=715.msg7289#msg7289 date=1345246734]<br /> But do not get upset when we call you out on it.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />UD logic right here. Ralphis called me a bitch because he believed I never stood up to him, but whenever I did he would ban me so I wouldn&#039;t.<br /><br />Are you a pussy, Rust?', 'xx', 1);
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	(153, 18, 2, 1215310282, 19, 153, 'Re: Week 5 (June 30th - July 6th) : ZDCTFMP15', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '12.159.3.116', 1, 0, '', '<br />[b][size=16pt][color=red]CRK 0[/color][/size][/b]<br /><br />CRK: MionicDonut, Xenaero, Radnsmash - 2<br />CRK: MionicDonut, Xenaero, Radnsmash - 1<br /><br />[b][size=16pt][color=blue]FFF 2[/color][/size][/b]<br /><br />FFF: Tai, BloodStrike, Deathbringer - 5<br />FFF: Tai, BloodStrike, Deathbringer - 5<br /><br />GGs guys. 8)', 'xx', 1);
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	(154, 18, 2, 1215318821, 1, 154, 'Re: Week 5 (June 30th - July 6th) : ZDCTFMP15', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', '[size=10pt][b][color=blue]Contraband - 0[/color][/b][/size]<br /><br />Game 1: Humanbones, Ralphis, Tony - 2<br />Game 2: Humanbones, Ralphis, Tony - 2<br />Game 3: Humanbones, Ralphis, Tony - 1<br /><br />[size=10pt][b][color=red]We&#039;re All Doomed - 2[/color][/b][/size]<br /><br />Game 1: Nostar, Nero, Pot - 2<br />Game 2: Nostar, Nero, Pot - 5 <br />Game 3: Nostar, Nero, Pot - 2<br /><br />Don&#039;t forget to cross yr name out on the frontpage ralph =)', 'xx', 1);
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	(155, 19, 2, 1215419422, 1, 155, 'Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', '[size=10pt][b]Official Servers for Week 4 of IDL Summer 2008[/b][/size]<br /><br />NY:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Cool Servers! (NY) - IDL #1<br />206.71.149.137:10103<br />Password = seasonfour<br />[/li][li]<br />Cool Servers! (NY) - IDL #2<br />206.71.149.137:10104<br />Password = seasonfour[/li][/list]<br /><br />TT:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li][International Doom League Week 6 - ZDCTFMP08 - A]<br />69.64.49.142:11022<br />Password= seasonfour[/list]<br /><br />[list]<br />[li][International Doom League Week 6 - ZDCTFMP08 - B]<br />69.64.49.142:11032<br />Password= seasonfour[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br /><br /><br />Post predictions, arrangements, and results here.<br /><br />CAPTAINS, MAKE ARRANGEMENTS AND POST THE AGREED GAME TIME IN THIS THREAD.<br /><br />GAME TIMES<br />-------------------<br />Cookie Monsters v We&#039;re All Doomed: _______________<br />Lords of Nigeria v Deep Thrusts: _______________<br />Hot Wax Bandits v Frag Fags &amp; Flag: _______________<br />Mass Destruction v Reign in Blood: _______________<br />ContraBanned v Bang Bros: _______________', 'xx', 1);
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	(156, 19, 2, 1215439795, 1, 172, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1216064864, 'nostar', '[size=10pt][b]***WEEK 5 DEMOS NEEDED***[/b][/size]<br /><br />whiteboy<br />bloodstrike<br /><br />Please submit your POV demos at http://www.intldoomleague.org/demos/ [b]under the correct week[/b] before you play in your next IDL game!', 'xx', 1);
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	(157, 19, 2, 1215452307, 17, 157, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 0, '', 'Cereal Killers are winning this week!', 'xx', 1);
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	(1055, 134, 10, 1251387849, 15, 1055, 'Re: Summer 2009: Praise &amp; Criticism', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.99.154', 1, 0, '', 'Yes or maybe some small break for an intermission would also help.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1063, 134, 10, 1251579352, 26, 1063, 'Re: Summer 2009: Praise &amp; Criticism', 'Nero', 'nero323@hotmail.com', '91.111.113.61', 1, 0, '', 'The trade was approved. And if I remember correctly this is a game, and as serious as some of us may take it, that&#039;s all it will ever be. There&#039;s no money involved&nbsp; ;) or anything of that kind and I had reasons for my trade. I had made some big-ass mistakes, some of which are very obvious even if they are blind to some individuals.<br /><br />Bring on next season.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1129, 139, 11, 1256133150, 22, 1129, 'Re: Accepting Captain Bids', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '24.141.53.160', 1, 1256181435, 'mikefails', 'I agree with tai and am very gay for him!&nbsp; I am also dangerously overweight with a foul body odor!!<br /><br />Wow, the truth, it comes out.', 'xx', 1);
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	(152, 18, 2, 1215304839, 0, 152, 'Re: Week 5 (June 30th - July 6th) : ZDCTFMP15', 'Fastidious', '', '24.15.221.244', 1, 0, '', '[b][size=16pt][color=red]RNB 2[/color][/size][/b]<br /><br />RNB: Whiteboy, Gilgamesh, Gax - 5<br />RNB: Fastidious, Whiteboy, Gilgamesh 5<br /><br />[b][size=16pt][color=blue]BB 0[/color][/size][/b]<br /><br />BB: Nautilus, Ladna, Brainthunk - 1<br />BB: Nautilus, Ladna, Brainthunk - 1', 'xx', 1);
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	(568, 66, 6, 1232473497, 130, 568, 'Re: Week 3 (January 19th-25th) : ZDCTF19 - Discussion and Results', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '173.19.226.0', 1, 0, '', '[center][b]R O F L[/b][/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(158, 19, 2, 1215453715, 2, 158, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '70.102.121.145', 1, 0, '', 'Cookie Monsters v We&#039;re All Doomed: DIV<br /><br />I think this one will be pretty straightforward for wad.&nbsp; With the flying potent offense and the nerostar defense, this game will be wrapped up pretty easily.&nbsp; If the Cookie Monsters get some solid practice time in on this map, they might have a chance, but I still remain cautious.&nbsp; Stallion and Ghoul are good players but are they in the top shape necessary for this game?<br />WAD pulls a Jkist3 and helps the Cookie Monsters play lava.&nbsp; WAD wins 2-0<br /><br />Lords of Nigeria v Deep Thrusts:&nbsp; DIV<br /><br />The Lords of Nigeria got a taste of their first win last week and will try and continue their streak through week 6.&nbsp; This map is going to prove tough with envy providing a solid d while oath and midian constantly pressure LON.&nbsp; The combined attack of oath and midian will prove to be too harsh for the Nigerians to stand and I expect to see some chaos ensue.<br />The Nigerians get a flashback from week3, but pissing themselves won&#039;t stop this rape.&nbsp; DPT wins 2-0<br /><br />Hot Wax Bandits v Frag Fags &amp; Flag: DIV<br />This game is going to be a good one and I hope blood shows up to really make it close.&nbsp; If not, Tai got a great all-around player in Deathbringer to aid his team.&nbsp; As long as Tai doesn&#039;t superman too much, FFF has a good chance to win this one.&nbsp; I think Kandy_Kid will definitely steal a few flags with his mad rj skills and prove to be our ace in the hole for this game.&nbsp; Coming off last weeks fluke, I think we got this one.<br />The Bandits pour Hot Wax all over the Fags in a 2-1 victory.<br /><br />Mass Destruction v Reign in Blood: DIV<br />Same as last week, lol.&nbsp; Reign in Blood is going to end this one quickly.&nbsp; I predict a 10-0 shutout.<br />Reign in Blood shows us all why the red base is really red in a shutout.<br /><br />ContraBanned v Bang Bros:<br /><br />These few weeks have been harsh for the Bros, having to play two of the toughest teams in this season.&nbsp; They have gained a good player in Whopper, but as predicted he wasn&#039;t around for last weeks game with RNB.&nbsp; Even if he does show this week, I don&#039;t think the outcome will be affected much.&nbsp; Tony might even show up a few hours early, as a way of sticking it to Nautilus and will definitely benefit his team if he gets a little practice in beforehand.<br />Contrabanned leaves the Bros begging for more in a 2-0 victory.<br /><br />This will leave the cereal killers as the ONLY team without a victory 8)', 'xx', 1);
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	(159, 19, 2, 1215461721, 55, 159, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'ReXn0r', 'yannik_marcos@hotmail.com', '189.152.182.35', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=nostar link=topic=19.msg156#msg156 date=1215439795]<br />[size=10pt][b]***WEEK 5 DEMOS NEEDED***[/b][/size]<br /><br />bones<br />tony<br />blood<br />donut<br />radnsmash<br />whiteboy<br />Envy<br /><br /><br />[/quote]<br /><br />errr...envy didn&#039;t play week 5 , I believe the demo you need is mine D:, I&#039;ll post it today tho :p<br /><br />btw mike....who told you that&#039;s the main DPT line up? D:&nbsp; DPT is hard to predict when it comes to lineups,(no offense to LON) but onething is certain... DPT will win :D <br /><br /> <br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(160, 19, 2, 1215531234, 1, 160, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', 'Hey REX, post yr match under week 5 and I&#039;ll get it right next time =)', 'xx', 1);
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	(162, 19, 2, 1215590317, 16, 162, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '64.252.10.176', 1, 0, '', '*giggles at Mikehail*<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(163, 16, 2, 1215674954, 21, 163, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Albatross', 'iglahn@gmail.com', '199.72.207.158', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ladna link=topic=16.msg113#msg113 date=1214842318]I felt like since I know him personally I could get him on more.[/quote]<br /><br />Ladna, Nautilus, I&#039;m sorry I didn&#039;t have better attendance.&nbsp; I didn&#039;t expect to have this ping.&nbsp; I expected to ping 40 to TT and become a DooM god this summer.&nbsp; But it didn&#039;t turn out that way.<br /><br />So, I&#039;m glad to have been traded.&nbsp; If I&#039;m not going to be playing doom then I&#039;d rather not be letting down a team as well.&nbsp; Good luck.&nbsp; I hope you win.<br /><br />BBOT', 'xx', 1);
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	(164, 19, 2, 1215708737, 22, 164, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '72.138.153.2', 1, 0, '', 'Um well my parents sent me away to my cousins house for the week :/ thats why i havent been online.. and to Nostar: I&#039;ll probably be back on saturday or by saturday but best time to play (for me, havent been able to talk to my team) is sunday.. sorry for the inconvenience :/', 'xx', 1);
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	(165, 19, 2, 1215711167, 1, 165, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', 'Ghost!!<br /><br />I talked to yr team and they said Friday or Saturday like 7PM would be ideal.<br />If it [b]HAS [/b]to be Sunday we should make it early on sundry. Like afternoon or something.<br /><br />Let me know soon if you can make the fri/sat games :)', 'xx', 1);
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	(166, 19, 2, 1215839464, 10, 166, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 0, '', '[u]Cookie Monsters v We&#039;re All Doomed: DIV[/u]<br />Contrary to some earlier predictions by others, I think TCM has a solid shot at a win here with the right field configuration and high levels of awareness from all players. Stopping the high flyers like Potent from escaping over the interior is going to be key for TCM&#039;s survival this week and, quite frankly, TCM could really use a win here to stay in the divisional race. They have a tough schedule ahead and I hope they can pull it off. Play Smart TCM.<br /><br />[b]TCM breaks hearts - and streaks. TCM 2-1.[/b]<br /><br />[u]Lords of Nigeria v Deep Thrusts:&nbsp; DIV[/u]<br />Again, another crucial game for a team with only one win on the records. However, both teams come out with a fresh look and new attitudes since their week 3 bout. Both teams are going to fight hard for this win and, as much as I&#039;d like to see LON take the cake on this one, DPT appears to have a more solid three man team. Prove my prediction wrong LON and you&#039;re right back in the divisional race.<br /><br />[b]DPT extends their streak with 4 wins going into their BYE. DPT 2-1[/b]<br />[u]<br />Hot Wax Bandits v Frag Fags &amp; Flag: DIV[/u]<br />If there was ever an opportunity for HWB to propel themselves back into the action it&#039;s with this week 3 rematch. HWB will hope to utilize what is perhaps one of the best runners on this map, Kandy_Kid, and break through FFF&#039;s frag heavy team. If HWB can stay tight and push in some flags, they&#039;ve got this. If Bloodstrike shows up, it may be tougher for HWB but they should still be able to pull it off and, interestingly enough, become a contender in the race for their division after a grim early-season outlook.<br /><br />[b]Wash and Wax. HWB 2-1[/b]<br /><br />[u]Mass Destruction v Reign in Blood: DIV[/u]<br />RNB is on the war path. A win this week, coupled with a CTB win over BBS, will not only guarantee RNB a playoff berth but their _entire division_. Pretty cushy. Unless MAD pulls out some serious tricks, it will be a blow out.<br /><br />[b]RNB 2-1[/b]<br /><br />[u]ContraBanned v Bang Bros:[/u]<br />A few story lines here. Both teams come off of losing to the two currently undefeated teams in the league, RNB and WAD who are both their divisional rivals. Nobody wants to walk out of here with a loss. For BBS, it&#039;s all about staying alive at this point with only one win thus far this season while CTB continues to push forward to recapture the top of their division. Also in play is the story of Tony who was dropped from BBS to Free Agency and then picked up by CTB in the Mid-Season Draft. Who will have the last laugh? CTB will of course.<br /><br />[b]CTB smashes BBS into the ground in a blind, humiliating, fury. CTB 2-0.[/b]', 'xx', 1);
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	(167, 19, 2, 1215892201, 17, 173, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 1216076258, 'MionicDonut', 'Im bored, and its my BYE week, so i can go without any team biaseding<br />(CRK would beat CUP on this map if we did play though)<br /><br />But enough with the hypothetical matches, its time for the real deals.<br />(All matches are 3v3 presumptive)<br /><br />[color=red][b]WARNING: BITTERNESS AND SARCASM AHEAD[/b][/color]<br /><br />[b]Cookie Monsters v We&#039;re All Doomed: DIV[/b]<br />I will start by showing two facts [i]Chewy + Map08 = Trouble.[/i]<br />The Second piece is that Cookie Monsters new roster is a mystery to me in how well it will float.&nbsp; I have good feelings about the new additions to TCM, and my heart says they should win.&nbsp; However my brain says to pick WAD.&nbsp; After all...Good guys always finish last.&nbsp; Therefore, inversely, Assholes tend to get first.<br /><br />[b]WAD Proves that statement true, as they hold tight to their conference lead after 2-1 match.[/b]<br /><br />Result: TCM Devours WAD like a box of Double Stuf Oreos, taking it 2-0 (Ive never been so glad to be wrong)<br /><br />[b]Lords of Nigeria v Deep Thrusts:&nbsp; DIV[/b]<br />I really dont care to much about what happens with these teams, as they are all cool customers in my book. That being said, they are alos two pretty good teams.&nbsp; LON containing twin powerhouses in Rott and Killingblair, and DPT with arguably the most versatile roster this season has to offer. (pun not intended, I noticed this while proofreading).&nbsp; when it all boils down however, four is greater than two, so for who will come out with the win, its gotta be DPT.<br /><br />[b]DPT thrust to victory 2-1, leaving them one win or tie away from a guaranteed playoff spot.[/b]<br /><br />[b]Hot Wax Bandits v Frag Fags &amp; Flag: DIV[/b]<br /><br />I pretty much harbor a grudge against EVERYBODY involved in this match to some degree (except for kandy, a pretty cool guy), so I wish ALL ills and inconveniences on both sides. :)&nbsp; (Except for Kandy)&nbsp; However, for the sake of progress on the part of My team, I guess Ill select FFF to win (though by no means am I rotting for them) .&nbsp;  When you think about it, Tai and friends DO deliver on this map, so its the right choice 8)<br /><br />[b]FFF proves to be the greater of two evils, winning 2-0 (however, the matches should be pretty close.)[/b]<br /><br />Result -&nbsp; The Fags of Frags, Fags and Flag Frag and Flag in a two round Cake walk.<br /><br />[b]Mass Destruction v Reign in Blood: DIV[/b]<br />If MAD wants to win, they need to have their top roster playing their absolute best. Oscar is coming back from nearly 2 weeks of inactivity, so that just may cost them.&nbsp; Howver this turns out, I salute Mass Destructions gallant effort they will put in &lt;o.<br /><br />[b]RNB Reigns over the IDC follwing this 2-0-1 win[/b]<br /><br />Result: MAD Destroys RNBs perfect season dreams with a tie game, but RNB still gets a guaranteed playoff spot and can still go undefeated.&nbsp; Meanwhile MAD maintains their trademark .500 record.<br /><br />[b]ContraBanned v Bang Bros:[/b]<br />This match should overall be an interesting one, with everybody except Whopper having a pretty bad showing on this map in previous seasons.&nbsp; It will overall come down to the usual one though, and it will go pretty deep.&nbsp; <br /><br />[b]CTB smokes the Bang Bros, 2-1[/b]<br /><br /><br />Result:&nbsp; CTB does just that, only in 2 rounds instead of 3', 'xx', 1);
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	(168, 19, 2, 1215917338, 1, 168, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', 'WAD vs TCM should happen around 6pm EST tomorrow.<br />We are sorta playing it by ear this week =)', 'xx', 1);
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	(169, 19, 2, 1215982265, 22, 169, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '99.228.211.181', 1, 0, '', '[size=18pt][color=blue]The Cookie Monsters (TCM) : 2[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: Shadow, Mantis, Stallion - 3 Flags<br />*Game 2: Shadow, Mantis, Stallion - 4 Flags<br /><br />[size=18pt][color=red]We&#039;re All Doomed (WAD) : 0[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: Nostar, Potent, Nero - 1 Flag<br />*Game 2: Nostar, Potent, Nero - 2 Flags<br /><br />Very Good Games To All Men, Very Exciting Matches! This Game Set The Standard For All Other Games :)&nbsp; ;D', 'xx', 1);
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	(170, 19, 2, 1215982925, 16, 170, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '64.252.70.71', 1, 0, '', '[size=18pt][color=blue]Frag Fags &amp; Flag (FFF) : 2[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: Tai, Bloodstrike, Deathbringer - 4 Flags<br />*Game 2: Tai, Bloodstrike, Deathbringer - 5 Flags<br /><br />[size=18pt][color=red]Hot Wax Bandits (HWB) : 0[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: Mikehail, Redshirt, Kandy_Kid - 1 Flag<br />*Game 2: Mikehail, Redshirt, Kandy_Kid - 1 Flag<br /><br />Nice games. : )', 'xx', 1);
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	(171, 19, 2, 1216054330, 7, 171, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.29.97', 1, 0, '', '[size=16pt][color=red]Bang Bros (BBS): 0[/color][/size]<br />Nautilus, Ladna, Brainthunk: 0<br />Nautilus, Ladna, Brainthunk: 1<br /><br />[size=16pt][color=blue]Contrabanned (CTB): 2[/color][/size]<br />HumanBones, Ralphis, Tony: 4<br />HumanBones, Ralphis, Tony: 4<br /><br />GGs!', 'xx', 1);
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	(172, 20, 2, 1216064807, 1, 188, 'Week 7 (Jul 14 - Jul 20) : ODA04', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1216620074, 'nostar', '[size=10pt][b]Official Servers for Week 4 of IDL Summer 2008[/b][/size]<br /><br />TT:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li][International Doom League Week 7 - ODA04- A]<br />69.64.49.142:11022<br />Password= seasonfour[/list]<br /><br />[list]<br />[li][International Doom League Week 7 - ODA04 - B]<br />69.64.49.142:11032<br />Password= seasonfour[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br /><br />Post predictions, arrangements, and results here.<br /><br />[b]CAPTAINS, MAKE ARRANGEMENTS AND POST THE AGREED GAME TIME IN THIS THREAD.[/b]', 'xx', 1);
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	(173, 20, 2, 1216064965, 1, 184, 'Re: Week 7 (Jul 14 - Jul 20) : ODA04', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1216457228, 'nostar', '[size=10pt][b]***WEEK 7 DEMOS NEEDED***[/b][/size]<br /><br />Kandy_Kid<br /><br />[size=10pt][b]***WEEK 6 DEMOS NEEDED***[/b][/size]<br /><br />blood&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  ((corrupt demo))<br />fastidous&nbsp; ((corrupt demo))<br />tony<br />oscar<br />Killingblair<br />Hex Vulture<br /><br />[size=10pt][b]***WEEK 5 DEMOS NEEDED***[/b][/size]<br /><br />whiteboy<br />bloodstrike ((on penalty of overturning the week 6 match))<br /><br />Please submit your POV demos at http://www.intldoomleague.org/demos/ [b]under the correct week[/b] before you play in your next IDL game!', 'xx', 1);
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	(175, 20, 2, 1216086145, 17, 175, 'Re: Week 7 (Jul 14 - Jul 20) : ODA04', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 0, '', '[size=16pt][color=red][b]Cereal Killers: 2[/b][/color][/size]<br /><br />Round 1: MionicDonut, Xenaero, Radnsmash - 3 Flags<br />Round 2: MionicDonut, Xenaero, Roscoe - 5 Flags<br /><br />[size=16pt][color=blue][b]Hot Wax Bandits: 0[/b][/color][/size]<br /><br />Round 1: Kandy_Kid, Redshirt, Mikehail - 2 Flags<br />Round 2: Kandy_Kid, Redshirt, Mikehail - 1 Flag<br /><br />ggs :)<br /><br />oh and to whoever is next for us, let this be a message<br /><br />[img]http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2152/crkposteryq1.jpg[/img]<br /><br />Were not gonna take it anymore.', 'xx', 1);
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	(176, 19, 2, 1216091727, 18, 177, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'oath', 'mattthejedi@gmail.com', '71.10.52.205', 1, 1216098108, 'oath', '[color=blue][size=10pt]Deep Thrusts (DPT):2[/size][/color]<br />Oath, mid: 4<br />Oath, mid: 5<br /><br />[color=red][size=10pt]Lords of Nigeria (LON): 0[/size][/color]<br />Blair, Rott: 1 <br />Blair, Rott, Killemall: 3<br /><br />Blair is a pee face son of a bitch.', 'xx', 1);
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	(177, 19, 2, 1216092407, 25, 177, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'Killemall', 'nlonz@yahoo.com', '98.198.4.15', 1, 0, '', 'i still blame myself for the fact that i went with it instead of keeping it fair', 'xx', 1);
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	(6886, 667, 23, 1337878033, 145, 6886, 'Re: Blue Division Results &amp; Demos', 'Fluffles', 'petefredericknewton@hotmail.co.uk', '86.148.110.167', 1, 0, '', 'Fluffles 2 - 0 Sabertooth<br /><br />Moo2d: 50 - 39<br />Boo: 50 - 33<br /><br />Demo: [url=http://speedy.sh/Tch4S/Fluffles-VS-Sabertooth-Blue.rar]http://speedy.sh/Tch4S/Fluffles-VS-Sabertooth-Blue.rar[/url]', 'xx', 1);
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	(179, 19, 2, 1216145926, 16, 179, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 7 - Jul 13) : ZDCTF08', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '64.148.0.152', 1, 0, '', 'Dear LON,<br /><br />LOL OWNED&nbsp; ;D<br /><br />Seriously, Tai. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(180, 20, 2, 1216239439, 4, 180, 'Re: Week 7 (Jul 14 - Jul 20) : ODA04', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '68.62.47.157', 1, 0, '', 'I thought you traded mid &gt;.&gt;', 'xx', 1);
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	(181, 16, 2, 1216332216, 61, 181, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Chain', 'luis_miguelito_@hotmail.com', '76.201.157.235', 1, 0, '', 'In contrast to other posts, I think this discussion has quite a bit of merit. Although it&#039;s Shak&#039;s style to be the confrontational troll every now and then, the purpose was not simply to stir shit up. There&#039;s a point to all of this, and that&#039;s to give insights into shitty dealings within a league that&#039;s supposed to be fun, competitive, and clean.<br /><br />Would you rather turn this whole thing into a blend of Doom and pro wrestling? Donut&#039;s gay little proposal to Tenchu opens the doors for worked games, and all he says is &quot;tee hee let&#039;s forget about it, ok??&quot; I&#039;m assuming Tenchu didn&#039;t agree to it, and thus we were granted the [b]omfg leak[/b] message about Operation TAIbreaker (rofl).<br /><br />The thing about having clan teams seems a bit silly to me. Sure, the rules don&#039;t stop it, and other seasons have had virtual clans instead of mixed players, but the purpose of a draft is quickly fading. If people can&#039;t live without their clanmates, why not have alternating seasons--one season it&#039;s mixed/draft teams, another is a clan season?<br /><br />To conclude, I&#039;m sure things like these could be avoided if the quality of team captains were better. Not to sound elitist, but when you have whiny/noob/lazy captains, the following begins to unfold:<br /><br />- Captain isn&#039;t willing to take charge and communicate with his/her team for practices and strategies. This creates uncertainty and possibly even dissent among the group.<br /><br />-Due to the lack of communication, the captain then tries to get top talent, assuming they&#039;ll do all the work.<br /><br />-Top player gets to noob captain&#039;s team and isn&#039;t willing to put his best effort, as the captain never did to begin with.', 'xx', 1);
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	(917, 108, 10, 1245644760, 22, 917, 'Re: Week 3 (June 15 - June 21) : ZDCTF MAP03 - Discussion and Results', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '69.156.30.43', 1, 0, '', '[color=red][size=5]Doom Raiders (DMR) : 2[/size][/color]<br /><br />Shadow, Doomguy666, Mionic_D - 5 flags<br />Shadow, Doomguy666, Mionic_D - 5 flags<br /><br />[color=blue][size=5]Flag Steelers (FLS) : 0[/size][/color]<br /><br />Ralphis, Rottking, Ladna - 1 flag<br />Ralphis, Rottking, Ladna - 2 flags<br /><br />ggs :/ although rott had to leave midway through round one, it was unfortunate', 'xx', 1);
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	(182, 16, 2, 1216337110, 19, 182, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '12.159.3.116', 1, 0, '', 'Also you know, this whole thing WAS brought about by a player/captain&#039;s idiocy on the matter, so of course it was all going to happen. It&#039;s not like they didn&#039;t have a chance to change this before it unraveled like it did. The only reason why chewy went to WAD for certain was because this whole deal was struck and didn&#039;t hold up due to non-binding terms, also, they were shitty decisions so one side got taken advantage of, as they should have. It happens. But only due to human error and lack of judgment.&nbsp; ::)<br /><br />I&#039;m pretty sure, now that I think about it, that the whole chewy thing was blown out of porportion due to misinterpretation. I didn&#039;t really believe and still don&#039;t believe that chewy is that much of a hardass. I mean sure, none of us really WANTED to go to the losing, then-winless team in the IDL, but I don&#039;t think that necessarily meant they wouldn&#039;t play for them. Chewy just got victimized for misinterpretation.<br /><br />Yes I know this goes against my flaming post I put up near the top of the page, but I&#039;m pretty certain this is what happened in reality, seeing as I didn&#039;t hear any opposing argument or the other side&#039;s story beforehand. It was a little rude of me.', 'xx', 1);
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	(183, 16, 2, 1216337590, 17, 183, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 1216337710, 'MionicDonut', 'As I believe I have already stated, I didnt need a runner, which is what Chewy does best.&nbsp; The truth is I probably wouldnt have picked him even if he hadnt said that he wouldnt play for me. I simply used that statement to my advantage at the time (for another trade).&nbsp; I think this whole ordeal was blown out of proportion, and pretty much all of Operation TAIbreaker has come to pass, seeing as everything rode on the CRK/HWB week 7 match, which has already taken place, and FFF is clearly in the Playoffs.<br /><br /><br />And about clan stacked teams, they are easily preventable.<br /> <br />If you want to stop clan teams from happening, go become a captain and take the other guys for yourself.', 'xx', 1);
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	(184, 16, 2, 1216339998, 16, 184, 'Re: Interesting Note', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '64.252.66.166', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Chain link=topic=16.msg181#msg181 date=1216332216]<br />The thing about having clan teams seems a bit silly to me. Sure, the rules don&#039;t stop it, and other seasons have had virtual clans instead of mixed players, but the purpose of a draft is quickly fading. If people can&#039;t live without their clanmates, why not have alternating seasons--one season it&#039;s mixed/draft teams, another is a clan season?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Lol, I picked my guys cause I thought they were the best to pick at the time. The fact that my top two picks are from [R] is simply a coincidence. : )', 'xx', 1);
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	(185, 20, 2, 1216481453, 19, 185, 'Re: Week 7 (Jul 14 - Jul 20) : ODA04', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '12.159.3.116', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Tenchu link=topic=20.msg180#msg180 date=1216239439]<br />I thought you traded mid &gt;.&gt;<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Mid is always with us in our hearts.', 'xx', 1);
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	(1838, 209, 12, 1274372397, 163, 1838, 'Re: A Helpful CTF Guide', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '72.240.150.213', 1, 0, '', 'To be honest, as far as defense goes, I believe that awareness is key. Often times, we mention the word &quot;awareness&quot; and people immediately assume this is a natural born talent and can&#039;t be taught. To an extent, that is true. Some people (like chaindude for example) are freakishly aware of everything that goes on around them; even behind them, without looking! To that extent, it can&#039;t be learned (and to cheaters, no wallhack gives you the ability to see whats behind you without looking!).<br /><br />Awareness a lot of the time comes with practice and learning the dynamics of the map, the spawn points (so you can expect some help from a respawning teammate)weapon locations (the faster you get to a weapon, the faster you can get back to playing defense) and tendencies of runners. As Ladna mentioned, people immediately think being a dominant flag-runner is scoring everytime they touch the flag. This is not true, in fact, they will have more failed attempts than successful--that&#039;s just the way it goes. So the point I&#039;m making is that even the best of the best are predictable at times, watch them, analyze their routes, directions to the flag and what-not. <br /><br />Immediately, people assume a great defender has the best aim in the world and in some instances, that is true. But I would say roughly 80% of the time, that isn&#039;t the case. The best defenders are aware of their surroundings, experienced doom players and great at [b]positioning[/b]. Sometimes setting your opponent up to move in ways that makes him more open and puts him right in front of you is just as good. This isn&#039;t done with pure aim, it&#039;s done with movement and dodging. If you&#039;re able to cover yourself (even if you take a shot and don&#039;t die, this is just as good in some instances) or dodge a shot, you have the whole time while they&#039;re reloading to get a good shot off. So maneuvering around in a way that puts your opponent right in front of you as opposed to dodging hard, completely turning around and trying to make a great shot is usually a better route. Think of it as what you can do to make aiming as easy as possible for you, not how many shots you can accurately place everytime (though you do want to be accurate). That being said, you still have to have good aim and timing to accomplish this and it is this reason why rusty players can still play at high levels even when they&#039;re nowhere near as dominant in the aim department--because they know how to position themselves well and setup the enemies to make shots easier for them.&nbsp; <br /><br />As a defender, you have the advantage because flag runners and back-up runners are trying to get in and out as fast as possible. Delaying this gives your offense on the other side more time to take over on their end and gives your mid D and respawning teammates more time to help you, thus lowering the opponents chances of successfully capturing a flag. It&#039;s vital though that you do your best to frag incoming runners and maintain base stability on your own so your mid can also concentrate on backing-up a runner when the opportunity presents itself.<br /><br />I&#039;m posting this because it&#039;s what I&#039;ve learned over the last 7 years of DooM. Some of it isn&#039;t 100% accurate but it is a good guideline to understand some of the basic fundamentals of doom, not just CTF. You&#039;d assume that this is something people at this level shouldn&#039;t have a problem with, but unless you&#039;re JKist3 and have an IQ of 610, you&#039;re going to break fundamentals occasionally. Sometimes being reminded of them sheds some light on what problems you could be having with your individual game. If this helps a few players, then good. If not, welp, Rus...dicks.&nbsp; ', 'xx', 1);
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	(186, 20, 2, 1216597935, 1, 186, 'Re: Week 7 (Jul 14 - Jul 20) : ODA04', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1216598246, 'nostar', '[size=7pt][b]7/19<br />[/b]<br />17:49 &lt;Fastidious&gt; he can play sunday night so why should i play before hand<br />17:49 &lt;Fastidious&gt; if there are conflicts<br />17:49 &lt;Fastidious&gt; it&#039;s not like you have an easier team to schedule with<br />17:50 &lt;Fastidious&gt; a fucking euro player and icey<br /><br />[b]7/19[/b]<br /><br />17:28 &lt;Whiteboy567&gt; what about tommorow at 10<br />17:29 &lt;Nostar&gt; i&#039;ll be gone all of tomorrow<br />17:29 &lt;Nostar&gt; i might be able to get on REALLY late<br />17:29 &lt;Whiteboy567&gt; 10 pm<br /><br />[b]7/20[/b]<br /><br />16:43&nbsp; &lt;Fastidious&gt;	i&#039;m around but gax is at cabooses so he won&#039;t be able to play, white is coming back at 10pm est<br />17:12&nbsp; &lt;potentpot&gt;	i can play at 10 =)<br />17:15&nbsp; &lt;Fastidious&gt;	we&#039;ll probably have to 2v2 or whatever[/size]<br /><br />We&#039;re going to have a 3 person team on at 10pm EST tonight Fast.', 'xx', 1);
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	(187, 18, 2, 1216603239, 35, 187, 'Re: Week 5 (June 30th - July 6th) : ZDCTFMP15', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.224.27.197', 1, 0, '', 'Well the demo upload engine isn&#039;t working for me(Keep on getting the message Authentication failed!)so i decided to just upload my demo here : http://www.sendspace.com/file/00kg4s', 'xx', 1);
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	(188, 20, 2, 1216610494, 1, 188, 'Re: Week 7 (Jul 14 - Jul 20) : ODA04', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', '[size=18pt][color=red]We&#039;re All Doomed (WAD) : 2[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: Nostar, Potent, Nero - 4 Flag<br />*Game 2: Nostar, Potent, Nero - 0 Flags<br />*Game 3: Nostar, Potent, Nero - 1 Flags<br /><br />[size=18pt][color=blue]Reign in Blood (RNB) : 0[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: Whiteboy, Gilgamesh, Gax - 0 Flags<br />*Game 2: Whiteboy, Fastidious, Gilgamesh - 0 Flags<br />*Game 3: Whiteboy, Fastidious, Gilgamesh - 0 Flags<br /><br />All bitterness aside, these were fun games. ggs RNB', 'xx', 1);
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	(189, 20, 2, 1216620228, 7, 191, 'Re: Week 7 (Jul 14 - Jul 20) : ODA04', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1216656604, 'Ladna', '[size=18pt][color=red]Bang Bros. (BBS): 1[/color][/size]<br /><br />&nbsp; *Nautilus, Ladna - 3<br />&nbsp; *Nautilus, Ladna - 1<br />&nbsp; *Nautilus, Ladna - 0<br /><br />[size=18pt][color=blue]Mass Destruction (MAD): 2[/color][/size]<br /><br />&nbsp; *Doomguy666, Oscar - 2<br />&nbsp; *Doomguy666, Oscar - 5<br />&nbsp; *Doomguy666, Oscar - 1<br /><br />GGs MAD, thanks for playing us 2v2.', 'xx', 1);
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	(190, 21, 2, 1216620474, 1, 190, 'Week 8 (July 21st-27th) : ZDCTF26', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', '[b][size=16pt]Official Servers for Week 8 of IDL Season IV[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][color=red][International Doom League Week 8 - ZDCTF26- A][/color][/b]<br />69.64.49.142:11022<br />Password= seasonfour<br /><br />[b][color=blue][International Doom League Week 8 - ZDCTF26 - B][/color][/b]<br />69.64.49.142:11032<br />Password= seasonfour<br /><br />Post predictions, arrangements, and results here.<br /><br />[b]CAPTAINS, MAKE ARRANGEMENTS AND POST THE AGREED GAME TIME IN THIS THREAD.[/b]', 'xx', 1);
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	(192, 20, 2, 1216659442, 11, 192, 'Re: Week 7 (Jul 14 - Jul 20) : ODA04', 'Doomguy666', 'xdoomguy666x@hotmail.com', '96.18.32.149', 1, 0, '', 'For a 2v2 I thought that match was really fun. There were definitely some very tense moments. Unfortunately I forgot to restart my demo before the match, so it has to go through CTB vs TCM just to get to our game. Still, was a great game to be a part of!<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(1024, 133, 10, 1250900038, 22, 1024, 'Re: IDL SUMMER 2009 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '64.229.193.173', 1, 0, '', 'INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE<br />Xenaero<br />Tai<br />Nostar<br />Potentpotables<br />Doomguy666<br /><br />WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE<br />Mikehail<br />Mantis-X<br />Humanbones<br />ItallianStallion<br />Metalblack', 'xx', 1);
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	(194, 20, 2, 1216704678, 41, 194, 'Re: Week 7 (Jul 14 - Jul 20) : ODA04', 'Marine', 'marine@endgameftw.com', '65.2.204.236', 1, 0, '', '[size=20pt][color=red]Lords of Nigeria (LON): 2[/color][/size]<br /><br />&nbsp; *Killingblair, Rottking - 5<br />&nbsp; *Killingblair - 1<br />&nbsp; [s]*Killingblair - 0[/s]<br />&nbsp; *Killingblair, Rottking - 5<br /><br />[size=20pt][color=blue]Cupid Stunts (CUP): 1[/color][/size]<br /><br />&nbsp; *Marine, Sabertooth - 1<br />&nbsp; *Marine, Sabertooth - 5<br />&nbsp; [s]*Marine, Sabertooth - 5[/s]<br />&nbsp; *Marine, Sabertooth - 0<br /><br />Aside from the fact on how terrible we played this night due to several reasons whereas our only opportunities of winning only based on playing 2 to 1 where even so took it&#039;s time, our captain Sabertooth departs from the team. I will be replacing him as captain, where after this week I will drive this team right back where it had it&#039;s high hopes meant for since week 1. This wasn&#039;t that great of a game, but GG&#039;s to Killingblair and Rottking for showing up and being patient.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6278, 613, 20, 1329969546, 7, 6278, 'Re: chronicles of bullshit #67', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '65.214.200.140', 1, 0, '', 'I think we should randomly hand out penalties.&nbsp; Because there are demo infractions or scheduling infractions every week, this would have the effect of evening things out a little bit.&nbsp; Plus, playing in IDL is a lot of work, us players deserve a break now and then.', 'xx', 1);
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	(196, 21, 2, 1216928778, 7, 196, 'Re: Week 8 (July 21st-27th) : ZDCTF26', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.27.164', 1, 1216929868, 'Ladna', '[quote]<br />I&#039;ve heard Bloodstrike is getting kicked from the IDL(?)<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Yeah, he hasn&#039;t turned in a single working demo and he&#039;s been replaced by Mistopher.&nbsp; Also, Ralphis and Tai/Blood made a deal in Week 6 where either Bloodstrike would upload his Week 5 demo or the match would be overturned (if FFF won).&nbsp; As a result, the Week 6 match between FFF and HWB has been overturned in favor of HWB.&nbsp; Tai and FFF are aware, but I don&#039;t think Ralphis has updated the site yet.', 'xx', 1);
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	(197, 21, 2, 1216967630, 16, 197, 'Re: Week 8 (July 21st-27th) : ZDCTF26', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '64.252.66.94', 1, 0, '', 'I wanna say I feel sorry for Bloodstrike, but I sent a message to his MySpace and he hasn&#039;t replied back about what he could possibly do. He might never be drafted again, and right now I&#039;m not sure if he really cares. = \\', 'xx', 1);
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	(2889, 313, 14, 1290219853, 1800, 2889, 'Re: IDL Winter 2011 Signups Open', 'Hydra', 'godfatherlul@hotmail.com', '24.153.114.87', 1, 0, '', 'Name: Hydra<br />Country: USA<br />IRC: irc.skulltag.net<br />Regular Availability: Whenever', 'xx', 1);
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	(7295, 713, 17, 1345305592, 15, 7295, 'Re: The Return of... The IDL Board!', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '72.53.140.59', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Solar_Flare link=topic=713.msg7260#msg7260 date=1344991949]<br />Stallion still cares about doom? Shocker, I thought League took his soul for good.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Just because I&#039;m a boss at LoL, does that mean I don&#039;t care about Doom?', 'xx', 1);
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	(9482, 967, 1, 1387256148, 36, 9482, 'Re: Take on me', 'HeX', 'mdvulture@yahoo.com', '172.6.92.113', 1, 0, '', 'Has this been implemented into Zandronum yet?', 'xx', 1);
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	(198, 21, 2, 1217001346, 64, 198, 'Re: Week 8 (July 21st-27th) : ZDCTF26', 'BloodStrike', 'fat1802002@yahoo.com', '24.118.183.161', 1, 0, '', 'I have put all my demos in as of right now. Sorry for the wait. For week 2 I believe I have to upload 2 demos since i was disconnected through the middle of it..I don&#039;t know if i can do that but ill try.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4288, 459, 16, 1310072098, 130, 4288, 'The trading bug', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.242', 1, 1310074000, 'nostar', 'TKV * 1 2 3 [= 6]<br />KGB * 1 2 4 [= 7]<br />EBL * 2 2 3 [= 7]<br /><br />SUC * 1 2 3 [= 6]<br />DMR * 1 1 3 [= 5]<br />DMC * 2 3 3 [= 8]<br /><br />SPE * 1 1 3 [= 5]<br />SXP * 1 2 2 [= 5]<br />BSK * 1 3 3 [= 7]<br /><br />BBC * 1 1 3 [= 5]<br />FLS * 1 2 2 [= 5]<br />KNF * 2 3 4 [= 9]<br /><br />[size=1]* = captain<br />1 = 1st round pick<br />2 = 2nd round pick<br />3 = 3rd round pick<br />4 = FA<br />&#91;] = Total[/size]<br /><br />This is the landscape going into week 5. There are two post-draft free agents on squads (Dawson and Souler for KGB and KNF respectively). Only two teams have a lineup that resembles their draft picks. Other teams have opted to trade up or down for chemistry, player wishes, scheduling conflicts or what have you. 8 out of 12 IDL teams have made inter-team trades, 11/12 have made roster changes from trading or FA. <br /><br />The reason I&#039;m bringing this up is that people are having heart attacks over trades like Mantis/dewww(madv) or Saber/Noob or Gyros/Collision. Perceived skill level isn&#039;t gospel, it&#039;s just a vague guideline. I&#039;ll use Saber and Noob as examples. Saber went #4 overall ahead of mikehail, Gilgamesh, Blair, Turska, Gyross Rust and Xen. Noob went 19th overall. That means there were 14 players picked between those guys. A draft reference might be the gap between Stallion and Junior. This gap reference IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF SKILL, because of the way skill drop offs happen in our draft and the idiocy of some captain&#039;s draft picks. Noob for Sabertooth wasn&#039;t an unfair trade (skillwise). Mantis for dewww/MadV wasn&#039;t an unfair trade and Gyross for Collision wasn&#039;t unfair. Captains have a right to trade down in the draft on draft day, why is it so crazy that mid-season, after playing games and seeing chemistry they not also want to trade for players who have shown they&#039;re worth more than their draft position indicates. It&#039;s not.<br /><br />Okay back to the numbers. As a generic way to assess the differences now and what happened on draft night the total number (in brackets) represents the teams collective draft position. This means the lower the number the higher the draft picks. Right as the draft ended each team was at a 6. 6 is the norm for IDL.<br /><br />Now mostly the teams with higher numbers blow. But you&#039;ll find that there are some teams with higher numbers that are better. For instance Humanbones has a .500 record and yet his draft (by this measure) was better than ralphis or rus&#039;s drafts )5 and 6). On top of that SXP is tied with KGB record wise and they have an even larger disparity (5 and 7). <br /><br />Extrapolating useful information from this isn&#039;t too tough. Trading up in the draft if your team isn&#039;t working is a good idea. If you&#039;re doing well don&#039;t mess with a good thing. You don&#039;t need numbers to figure that out. However I took something different from this. I see the teams that have a good captain and picked late not needing to make changes, hence the static 6es. The good captains that picked earlier needed to balance their teams out so they opted to trade up (See DMR, SPE, BBC, SXP). The bad captains that couldn&#039;t get it together scrambled to plug sinking ships with trades (See DMC, BSK, KNF). If you look at the data you&#039;ll find that this tiering is a reflection of the captains themselves. Rus and Ralph are good captains in good spots with good, reliable players. LB, Mass Prime and Bones are all good captains in less good spots with semi-reliable players. And Naut and Clim are bad captains in bad spots. <br /><br />Captains like Strangle and Hatred are good captains who made extremely bad decisions. Strangle dropping nosturi to avoid forfeit was horrid. Hatred drafting Mantis was dumb. Then taking Mobius over Noob, Collision and Deww was dumb. They&#039;re both good players who made mistakes that cost them. <br /><br />What I&#039;m trying to say is that trading is circumstantial. Lay off captains trying to fix their teams or make a new start. It&#039;s just one season and you&#039;re making people not want to captain by ripping them for every decision.', 'xx', 1);
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	(199, 21, 2, 1217001919, 64, 199, 'Re: Week 8 (July 21st-27th) : ZDCTF26', 'BloodStrike', 'fat1802002@yahoo.com', '24.118.183.161', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ladna link=topic=21.msg196#msg196 date=1216928778]<br />[quote]<br />I&#039;ve heard Bloodstrike is getting kicked from the IDL(?)<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Yeah, he hasn&#039;t turned in a single working demo and he&#039;s been replaced by Mistopher.&nbsp; Also, Ralphis and Tai/Blood made a deal in Week 6 where either Bloodstrike would upload his Week 5 demo or the match would be overturned (if FFF won).&nbsp; As a result, the Week 6 match between FFF and HWB has been overturned in favor of HWB.&nbsp; Tai and FFF are aware, but I don&#039;t think Ralphis has updated the site yet.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />There was never a deal...Ralph told me to turn in the demo AFTER the game, and I did. Due to problems with the demo as I have been getting packet loss from all of the ZDaemon servers, apparently you said you would look into that, and help fix the demos. Week 2 is the only demo I have that works fully, week 5 and 6 are ones that have problems.', 'xx', 1);
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	(200, 21, 2, 1217017066, 1, 201, 'Re: Week 8 (July 21st-27th) : ZDCTF26', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '65.214.200.239', 1, 1217018802, 'nostar', '[quote][CTB]Ralphis: the deadline is turn it in before you play or i bitch and moan at you for a long ass time<br />[FF]Blood&amp;[F]: you want to let me play first then do it? my internet is kind of being wacky<br />[FF]Blood&amp;[F]: unless you guys are really going to do that<br />[CTB]Ralphis: are you 100 sure you have it<br />[FF]Blood&amp;[F]: yes...<br />[CTB]Ralphis: 100%<br />[FF]Blood&amp;[F]: yea<br />.....<br />[CTB]Ralphis: ok so if you don&#039;t have it you will be awarded a loss this match<br />[CTB]Ralphis: fair deal?!<br />[FF]Blood&amp;[F]: i never have trouble with demos, i just have been busy<br />[FF]Blood&amp;[F]: you know that<br />[CTB]Ralphis: i know its cool, just insurance<br />[FF]Blood&amp;[F]: all the seasons i have turned them in<br />[FF]Tai&amp;[F]: blood didn&#039;t lose it<br />[CTB]Ralphis: ok tai you agree?<br />[FF]Tai&amp;[F]: you know damn well he doesn&#039;t come on during the week<br />[CTB]Ralphis: if blood&#039;s demo isn&#039;t uploaded/is broken then you guys lose this game<br />[FF]Tai&amp;[F]: yes ralphis of course i agree<br />[CTB]Ralphis: ok if that&#039;s the case then go to it[/quote]<br /><br />Since the week 2 demo is good, you&#039;ve got 1 last chance before you&#039;re out.<br />However, since this is yr second infraction, you&#039;ll be prohibited from participating in the week 8 FF F match vs CRK. <br />Weeks 5/6 are corrupt which, per the agreement, means that FFF gets their Week6 game overturned.<br />Bloodstrike, if i were you I&#039;d reinstall 1.08.07 and test demo-ing a few times before yr game.', 'xx', 1);
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	(201, 21, 2, 1217017973, 7, 201, 'Re: Week 8 (July 21st-27th) : ZDCTF26', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.27.164', 1, 1217018866, 'Ladna', '[quote author=BloodStrike link=topic=21.msg198#msg198 date=1217001346]<br />I have put all my demos in as of right now. Sorry for the wait. For week 2 I believe I have to upload 2 demos since i was disconnected through the middle of it..I don&#039;t know if i can do that but ill try.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Zip &#039;em up in an archive, the demo upload engine is 1 file per player/week.<br /><br />[quote author=BloodStrike link=topic=21.msg198#msg198 date=1217001346]<br />Due to problems with the demo as I have been getting packet loss from all of the ZDaemon servers, apparently you said you would look into that, and help fix the demos. Week 2 is the only demo I have that works fully, week 5 and 6 are ones that have problems.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />We did look into it, and there&#039;s an error that comes up a lot when you join servers.&nbsp; This error happens sporadically for other players (like Shadow_Ghost&#039;s internet has been acting up, and we get it for him), but it&#039;s almost 10x as bad for you for some reason.&nbsp; I can&#039;t really offer any advice on what to do other than what nostar&#039;s already suggested, maybe look into another ISP or replacing some cables.<br /><br />I did also attempt to fix the Week 6 demo but I was unsuccessful.&nbsp; It looked like packets were repeated 7-8 times (I can&#039;t <br />remember for sure) and I thought if I simply removed the duplicates it would make the demo playable, but it didn&#039;t work at all.<br /><br />And I hope I don&#039;t come off like a jackass, but this whole thing is a good argument for uploading demos right after a match.&nbsp; That way we can tell when a demo is corrupt right away and figure out what to do.&nbsp; Otherwise we&#039;re scrambling to decide something 2 minutes before a match takes place and things get complicated.&nbsp; I&#039;m glad the whole thing is resolved though, good luck with fixing whatever it is that&#039;s jewing your connection.', 'xx', 1);
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	(202, 21, 2, 1217025869, 64, 202, 'Re: Week 8 (July 21st-27th) : ZDCTF26', 'BloodStrike', 'fat1802002@yahoo.com', '24.118.183.161', 1, 0, '', 'Well, you are right as far as I should have uploaded my demos earlier, but it was bound to happen that my demos would have fucked me over. Hopefully I will be able to play, at least the demo tells what happens as far as the match. As far as switching ISP&#039;s and cables...I don&#039;t live by&nbsp; myself, I&#039;m only 16...Asking that from my parents is basically impossible. The thing is, is that this problem with playing in servers has only came up recently..As you can tell week 2 is fine, but after that everything is messed up, so I don&#039;t think its my ISP or cables..I think its safe to say there is a connection problem between ZDaemon and my computer, but it is random..I&#039;ll try to fix it, and hopefully as I stated before, I am able to play.', 'xx', 1);
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	(203, 21, 2, 1217218342, 1, 203, 'Re: Week 8 (July 21st-27th) : ZDCTF26', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '65.214.200.239', 1, 0, '', '[size=18pt][color=red]We&#039;re All Doomed (WAD) : 2[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: Nostar, Potent, Nero - 3 Flags<br />*Game 2: Nostar, Potent, Nero - 4 Flags<br /><br />[size=18pt][color=blue]Contrabanned (CTB) : 0[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: Humanbones, Ralphis, Martyr - 2 Flags<br />*Game 2: Humanbones, Ralphis, Martyr - 1 Flags<br /><br />GGs CTB', 'xx', 1);
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	(204, 21, 2, 1217220168, 22, 204, 'Re: Week 8 (July 21st-27th) : ZDCTF26', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '99.228.211.181', 1, 0, '', '[size=18pt][color=red]Cookie Monsters (CM) : 2[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: Shadow, Mantis, Stallion - 3 Flags<br />*Game 2: Shadow, Mantis, Stallion - 3 Flags<br /><br />[size=18pt][color=blue]Mass Destruction (MAD) : 0[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: Doomguy666, Hex, Oscar - 0 Flags<br />*Game 2: Doomguy666, Hex, Oscar - 1 Flag<br /><br />gg&#039;s =)', 'xx', 1);
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	(205, 21, 2, 1217223436, 17, 205, 'Re: Week 8 (July 21st-27th) : ZDCTF26', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 1217228012, 'MionicDonut', '[size=18pt][color=blue]Cereal Killers (CRK) : 2[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: MionicDonut, Xenaero, Radnsmash - 3 Flags<br />*Game 2: MionicDonut, Xenaero, Radnsmash - 5 Flags<br /><br />[size=18pt][color=red]Frag Fags &amp; Flag (FFF) : 0[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: Tai, Beast, DeathBringer - 2 Flags<br />*Game 2: Tai, Beast, DeathBringer - 0 Flags<br /><br />GGs, I&#039;m glad this match got to be a 3v3.<br />I hope we meet again in the near future.<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(918, 112, 3, 1245649173, 17, 918, 'Re: Hey There', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.212', 1, 0, '', 'That could be any door', 'xx', 1);
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	(921, 112, 3, 1245694880, 16, 921, 'Re: Hey There', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '99.35.58.250', 1, 0, '', 'Uninformed swine, it&#039;s the door from Map03 of ZDCTF. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(206, 21, 2, 1217256729, 7, 206, 'Re: Week 8 (July 21st-27th) : ZDCTF26', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.27.164', 1, 0, '', '[size=18pt][color=red]Bang Bros. (BBS) : 0[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: Nautilus, Ladna, Mistopher - 0 Flags<br />*Game 1: Nautilus, Ladna, Mistopher - 1 Flag<br /><br />[size=18pt][color=blue]Reign in Blood: 2[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: Fastidious, Whiteboy, Gilgamesh - 5 Flags<br />*Game 2: Whiteboy, Gilgamesh, GaX - 5 Flags<br /><br />GGs!', 'xx', 1);
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	(338, 37, 6, 1226369727, 47, 377, 'Re: IDL Signups Open', 'Xephyr', 'funkymonkey074@msn.com', '72.174.24.213', 1, 1227423212, 'Xephyr', 'Name: Xephyr<br />Country: United States<br />Email: exodustko@yahoo.com<br />IM : funkymonkey074@msn.com (msn)', 'xx', 1);
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	(207, 22, 2, 1217256867, 7, 207, 'Week 9 (July 28th-August 4th) : ZDCTF04', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.27.164', 1, 0, '', '[b][size=16pt]Official Servers for Week 8 of IDL Season IV[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][color=red][International Doom League Week 8 - ZDCTF04- A][/color][/b]<br />69.64.49.142:11022<br />Password= seasonfour<br /><br />[b][color=blue][International Doom League Week 8 - ZDCTF04 - B][/color][/b]<br />69.64.49.142:11032<br />Password= seasonfour<br /><br />Post predictions, arrangements, and results here.<br /><br />[b]CAPTAINS, MAKE ARRANGEMENTS AND POST THE AGREED GAME TIME IN THIS THREAD.[/b]', 'xx', 1);
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	(208, 22, 2, 1217257539, 7, 215, 'Re: Week 9 (July 28th-August 4th) : ZDCTF04', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.27.164', 1, 1217439171, 'nostar', '[color=black][size=14pt][b]-= Week 8 Demos Needed =-[/b][/size][/color]<br />[color=black]<br />Humanbones<br />Martyr<br />Oscar<br />Beast<br />Mistopher<br />GaX<br />HeX<br />[/color]', 'xx', 1);
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	(209, 22, 2, 1217261051, 22, 209, 'Re: Week 9 (July 28th-August 4th) : ZDCTF04', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '99.228.211.181', 1, 0, '', 'I guess I&#039;ll give a shot at giving some predictions&nbsp; ;D<br /><br />Contrabanned vs Cupid Stunts&nbsp; CONF<br />After a disappointing and maybe controversial loss to divisional rivals WAD in a fight for the top seed, CTB is left hungry and looking to bounce back, and what a perfect opponent to face in this time: CUP, the team that is scrambling to get things straight as the second captain Sabertooth bailed. I see a blowout of epic proportions coming&nbsp; :-X [b]CTB 2:0 CUP[/b]<br /><br />Cookie Monsters vs Lords of Nigeria&nbsp; CONF<br />Earlier in the season it may have looked as if LON may have been easy prey for the Cookie Monsters, but with the recent change up in lineup (addition of JKist3 and Acolyte) one must wonder how well they can work together? I belive TCM will be a worthy opponent to test LON&#039;s chemistry, but with nothing to gain as LON has been eliminated from playoff contention, will they even try? P.S. I&#039;m Biased. [b]TCM 2:0 LON[/b]<br /><br />We&#039;re All Doomed vs Deep Thrusts&nbsp; CONF<br />Great match right here, combined with the action packed map that is zdctf mp04. With the WDC East getting most of the attention as that division holds three powerhouses, DPT has made a statement as to why they should not be overlooked in the WDC West by going on a winning streak. In an SSG heavy map, will Nero&#039;s SSG be up to par with the rest of the superstars in the epic battle? I think DPT surprises the world and be the second blemish on WAD&#039;s record (Other than TCM&nbsp; :D) In a close bout. [b]DPT 2:1 WAD[/b]<br /><br />Bang Bros vs Cereal Killers&nbsp; CONF<br />CRK coming off an impressive and surprising victory over FFF come into this week rolling with momentum, and with a playoff spot in sight. Bang Bros are also a team on a mission, as CRK&#039;s victory has put BBS in jeopardy of losing their playoff spot, low profile but epic match in it&#039;s own right. The team with the best chemistry wins this match, and I was impressed with CRK&#039;s thumping of FFF in game 2, I pick the cinderella team to win! [b]CRK 2:0 BBS[/b]<br /><br />Mass Destruction vs Hot Wax Bandits&nbsp; CONF<br />HWB is loooking to have an impressive lineup now with Mikehail, Kandy Kid, and Collision, but so is MAD with Doomguy666, Hex_Vulture, &amp; Oscar. Fresh off a game with MAD, it seemed as they were a solid team, and not having seen HWB play, I&#039;m going to have to go with MAD as they have looked to be quite solid. This game is about trading blows, and who can take more. [b]MAD 2:1 HWB[/b]<br /><br />Reign in Blood vs Frag Fags &amp; Flag&nbsp; CONF<br />I don&#039;t think I need a long description for this match up. Simply put, I do not believe FFF has a strong enough lineup (with or without Bloodstrike) to put up with the likes of Fastidious, Whiteboy, Gilgamesh &amp; Gax on this action packed map. RNB takes it. [b]RNB 2:0 FFF[/b]', 'xx', 1);
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	(210, 22, 2, 1217286610, 17, 210, 'Re: Week 9 (July 28th-August 4th) : ZDCTF04', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 0, '', 'Its prediction time!<br />Week 9 (All Conference matches)<br /><br />I dont think the map needs an introduction, we all know the drill with ZDCTF04. <br />Good Layout + Good Teams = Good games.&nbsp; <br /><br />[b]ContraBanned vs. Cupid Stunts[/b]<br /><br />ContraBanned is coming back from an unfortunate loss to WAD, dooming their dreams for for a top seed in the WDC.&nbsp; They have to take it out on somebody, and it looks like its gonna be The Cupid Stunts, who have yet another new lineup after another captain got nervous.&nbsp; Assuming Ralph&#039;s internet doesn&#039;t fart out on him again, ContraBanned shouldn&#039;t have much trouble with this one.<br /><br />ContraBanned make sure Cupid Stunts never fly again in a 2-0 bombardment.<br /><br />[b]Cookie Monsters vs. Lords of Nigeria[/b]<br /><br />Unless the previously mentioned map doesnt go as planned and CUP does leave CTB in a daze, Cookie Monsters secure the coveted #4 spot in WDC.&nbsp; But it never hurts to have another win on your plate.&nbsp; Lords of Nigeria may as well have a showcase of their shiny new roster,&nbsp; if they play it right they have quite the fighting chance.&nbsp; In fact i daresay they could pull a win off before they get deported back to Africa.&nbsp;  <br /><br />Lords of Nigeria sails away with a 2-1 victory.<br /><br />[b]We&#039;re All Doomed vs. Deep Thrusts[/b]<br /><br />If there was a match to watch this week, this one would be it.&nbsp; Consider the following: Deep Thrusts&#039; winning streak has not been halted since it began back in week 3.&nbsp; Meanwhile We&#039;re All Doomed hasn&#039;t budged from their number 1 Conference spot at all.&nbsp; So what happens when an Unstoppable force meets an Immovable object?&nbsp; Find out this week when these guys collide.<br /><br />Deep Thrusts come from behind in three rounds, leaving every status quo untouched.<br /><br />[b]Bang Bros vs. Cereal Killers[/b]<br /><br />[biased]<br />They say grudge matches are some of the best matches, and when it comes down to the people on these teams, everybody wants a piece of everybody else.&nbsp; Chaos ensues.&nbsp; Excuse the Madden moment, but what this whole game WILL come down to is who can hold of the other teams runners better, cuz if you dont score flags, You dont win. End Madden Moment.&nbsp; While I do admit the Bros. have got Bang, CRK has got enough Snap, Crackle, and Pop to launch them clear into the playoffs.<br /><br />CRK Bowl over the Bros 2-0<br />[/biased]<br /><br />[b]Mass Destruction vs. Hot Wax Bandits&nbsp; [/b]<br /><br />I dont know very much about this Collision person, but kudos to him for joining the fun. :)&nbsp; That being said he should probably grab a defensive positon.&nbsp; The other two bandits will HAVE to apply heavy O if they want any hope to survive Mass Destruction.&nbsp; Oscar and DoomGuy are just plain deadly with SSGs so HWB will need alot more than luck and smooth legs to make it through with a victory.<br /><br />MAD nukes HWB 2-1, ending their season at .500.&nbsp; Who didn&#039;t see that one coming...<br /><br />and Last but most certainly not least<br /><br />[b]Reign in Blood vs. Frag Fags &amp; Flag[/b]<br /><br />While slightly less glamorous than their WDC counterpart,&nbsp; this match is also a battle of the top dogs.&nbsp; Though there isn&#039;t as much more than pride on the line, and having ending their season with a winning streak, that may be just enough motivation to get everybody riled up for a good fun match.&nbsp; Who knows, maybe the elusive BloodStrike may make a guest appeence.<br /><br />RNB reigns supreme, Blood (2-1) or no Blood (2-0)', 'xx', 1);
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	(211, 22, 2, 1217302578, 1, 211, 'Re: Week 9 (July 28th-August 4th) : ZDCTF04', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '65.214.200.239', 1, 0, '', 'WAD vs DPT is slated for Wednesday at 10pm EST.<br /><br />And as a side note, envy was really cool about scheduling =)<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(212, 22, 2, 1217337123, 33, 212, 'Re: Week 9 (July 28th-August 4th) : ZDCTF04', 'Envy', 'AE-1987@hotmail.com', '76.187.124.176', 1, 0, '', 'yeah vice versa pain free scheduling of the games it was a bit awkward B)', 'xx', 1);
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	(7046, 684, 22, 1339984706, 64, 7046, 'Re: Draft Results Speculation Thread', 'BloodStrike', 'casianoortega@live.com', '107.2.106.65', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Hatred link=topic=684.msg7034#msg7034 date=1339969095]<br />[quote=&quot;Shpongler&quot;]Another R team. I am curious whether hatred will back defender or will still O. I think its crime let hatred def , bcz he is the best attacker here.[/quote]<br /><br />Holy shit, how does this guy know I used to D? I&#039;ve only seen him around for like 3 months. Are you stalking me?<br /><br />Also, Bloodstrike, see you in the masterbowl. Afterwards, I&#039;ll see you at Ralph&#039;s girlfriend&#039;s house.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Win or lose, I&#039;ll be there.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2523, 272, 1, 1284192986, 75, 2523, 'Re: 1st Annual McIntosh Duel Invitational', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.180.96', 1, 0, '', 'no euro servers pls. that totally killed my interest in zddl, euro matches weren&#039;t what i was signing for.', 'xx', 1);
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	(213, 22, 2, 1217358793, 26, 213, 'Re: Week 9 (July 28th-August 4th) : ZDCTF04', 'Nero', 'nero323@hotmail.com', '77.101.52.56', 1, 0, '', 'Tomorrow night on TT servers it&#039;s the clash of the WDC as the irresistable force of DPT meet the immovable object of WAD in a clash that&#039;s going to go down in history as one of the many IDL matches that are happening this week.<br /><br />Meanwhile there are old scores to be settled in the IDC, scores like 1-0 and 2-2 that have happened in previous seasons. Who will win this match between BBS and CRK?<br /><br />Then on Sunday, live, the battle for IDC as RNB meet FFF in a match already being described as on this Sunday. <br />Coming up this weekend the giants of MAD play host to the titans of HWB, making them both seem normal sized. <br /><br />Then CTB play CUP for the first time this season to see who&#039;ll win that.<br />Also, TCM play LON for a game of CTF to determine the victors for this season at least, and indeed at most. <br /><br />Looking ahead to next season, every IDL team will be playing ctf several times and in various combinations, and you can catch all of that ctf here, where we will be showing all the ctf all the time. Catch all of the constantly happening ctf here, it&#039;s all here and it&#039;s all ctf, always. <br /><br />It is impossible to keep track of all the ctf but your best chance is here! Thousand and thousands of hours of ctf each more climatic than the last, constant, dizzying, 24hour, year long, endless ctf every frag of it massively mattering to someone, presumably.<br /><br />Watch it all, all here, all the time, forever. It will never stop, the ctf is officially going forever, it will never be finally decided who has won the ctf. There is still everything to play for and forever to play it in, so that&#039;s the ctf coming up!', 'xx', 1);
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	(214, 22, 2, 1217369555, 17, 216, 'Re: Week 9 (July 28th-August 4th) : ZDCTF04', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 1217616356, 'MionicDonut', 'The Bang Bros and Cereal Killers shall have at one another Saturday, August 2nd at 10 PM Eastern Time.', 'xx', 1);
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	(215, 22, 2, 1217391807, 10, 215, 'Re: Week 9 (July 28th-August 4th) : ZDCTF04', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 0, '', 'I think Nero&#039;s post is the most well informed', 'xx', 1);
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	(217, 23, 2, 1217691418, 33, 217, 'IDL Season 4: A Look Back ', 'Envy', 'AE-1987@hotmail.com', '76.187.124.176', 1, 0, '', 'yo guys i have been discussing with a few guys about the idea of making a movie about IDL Season 4, the ups the downs etc. but i havent totally thrown out the possibility of making a movie over all 4 IDL seasons. This really is inspired by the fact that this will be the last IDL season as we currently play it at this point, meaning big changes are in store for future seasons, but thats an entirely different subject and lets not get into that. What i am wanting are representitives from each team if available to give me via pm or posting here some of their teams highlights. When i say that i&#039;d really like the week in which it happend and the POV i should download to FRAP it. If not enough people respond or dont like the idea ill probably drop it completely but as i have just here recently gotten into Movie making a lot more id like to see what i can do on a larger scale. DPT and CTB are already covered in terms of clips recomended etc.<br />Id like your guys thoughts and feedback as well as details to the clips youd like to see input for your team. Thanks', 'xx', 1);
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	(218, 23, 2, 1217693724, 26, 218, 'Re: IDL Season 4: A Look Back ', 'Nero', 'nero323@hotmail.com', '77.101.52.56', 1, 0, '', 'Awesome idea! I&#039;ve been witness and taken part in quite some moments myself ;) i&#039;ll drop a pm with more details etc.<br /><br />Also, if you need me i&#039;ll help out with this, i&#039;ve done alot of vid editing and other sheet which we can work together on! ;)', 'xx', 1);
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	(219, 23, 2, 1217697355, 19, 219, 'Re: IDL Season 4: A Look Back ', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '12.159.3.116', 1, 0, '', 'Yeah this is pretty cool. I had this idea not too long ago, but it totally fell through because I was too lazy to go through all the demos and fraps some good moments.<br /><br />I could help out with music, though, for the movie. I had that all squared away.<br /><br />Unfortunately, I have no demos of my past seasons thanks to a hard drive failure a few months back. However, I could probably get with Mionic and crew and put up some season 4 moments for you to use!', 'xx', 1);
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	(914, 112, 3, 1245615445, 7, 914, 'Hey There', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '75.167.223.189', 1, 0, '', 'asfaf', 'xx', 1);
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	(220, 23, 2, 1217699405, 17, 220, 'Re: IDL Season 4: A Look Back ', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 0, '', 'And you did post your season 3 demos amirite&nbsp; ;D<br /><br />But yeah sure I can grab some good moments CRK had before week 5 (YES, there were some, I know some smart-ass is going to say what good moments :P)<br /><br />This sounds like a good idea.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4835, 504, 17, 1317506547, 213, 4835, 'Is evenness good for the league?', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '97.92.40.97', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;m glad we brought this discussion to a public forum because (a) they should have a say, (b) forums can be more helpful for staying on topic and preventing off-the-cuff arguments, and (c) it is hard to take #idlb seriously sometimes.<br /><br />Obviously, we can never achieve total parity (or antiparity), so we aren&#039;t really discussing whether parity is a good thing or not, but whether having a more even league (closer to parity) or a less even league (further from parity) is a good thing.&nbsp; Of course, it is possible that the current state of the league is the best possible state, but that would be an extremely convenient coincidence and is probably not the case.&nbsp; Because the decisions of the administration can and inevitably will affect the parity of the league, it is important that we decide what we want for the league before we make important decisions.<br /><br />To be clear, my position is that parity is a good thing for the league--its virtues outweigh those of nonparity--and that the administration&#039;s decisions should aim to increase evenness.<br /><br />Some arguments against parity:<br /><br />1.&nbsp; There won&#039;t be upsets.<br /><br />Since we can never achieve parity, there will always be favorites in every game, and there will always be a top team.&nbsp; Since the favoritism won&#039;t be as extreme as in a less even league, there will actually be [i]more[/i] upsets in an even league.&nbsp; It is true that there won&#039;t be the possibility of incredible game-of-the-century upsets, but that possibility is not worth the trade-off.&nbsp; If Summer 2010 BBC beats DMR 99/100 games, the awesomeness of that 1 game does not make up for the unfair and boring shittiness of the other 99 games.&nbsp; I would rather mix up the teams and watch or play in 100 good games whether I was on DMR or BBC.<br /><br />2.&nbsp; Uneven games are as instructive as or more instructive than even games.&nbsp; They develop different kinds of skills in players, so we should have as many uneven games as we have even games.<br /><br />This may or may not be true--it requires some argument in its favor--but I think that it is not.&nbsp; Mike&#039;s worry is that even games do not force players to develop interesting strategies, but instead promote conservative plays, while I feel the opposite is true.&nbsp; In general, the more even the game I&#039;m in, the more my actions matter; the less even the game, the less my actions matter.&nbsp; As Fast said, there is nothing I can do on DMR that will allow us to beat BBC; in the same way, there is little I can reasonably do on BBC that will prevent us from beating DMR; and any player who is smart enough to realize this will immediately stop formulating strategies.&nbsp; In an even game, on the other hand, far from being random, each player&#039;s actions make as much difference as they possibly can.&nbsp; This puts the [i]most[/i] pressure on the players who should be [i]most[/i] conscientious of their actions because one slip-up can lose the game while one pro move can win the game.<br /><br />But that doesn&#039;t matter because it isn&#039;t the primary function of the IDL to improve player performance.&nbsp; This isn&#039;t a training camp for CTF players.&nbsp; This is a league that organizes fun games for people who already know how to play.&nbsp; And toward this end parity is [u]without a doubt[/u] what we should strive towards.&nbsp; A small minority of players might enjoy quickly losing 0-5 again and again or quickly winning 5-0 again and again, but most do not.&nbsp; I base this on the fact that we call some games ggs, and other games bgs.&nbsp; Ggs are fair, even, exciting, close, and fun; bgs are unfair, uneven, boring, or in some cases depressing.&nbsp; This is evident even in the prediction threads, where everybody is excited about the evenly matched games and unexcited about the mismatched games.<br /><br />Please understand that this is not about winning or losing.&nbsp; I do not feel bad for bad players because they lose games, nor do I feel jealous of or wronged by great players because they win games.&nbsp; I am not trying to organize things so that I or anybody else gets more wins (or so that Jenova or anybody else gets fewer wins).&nbsp; Just as DMR does not have any fun losing to BBC, BBC should not have any fun winning against DMR.&nbsp; Easy wins are hilarious for [MWC] in pub, but not for the IDL.<br /><br />Player improvement takes place through priv and team practice.&nbsp; IDL games are between 20-30 minutes, and take place once a week.&nbsp; You cannot improve much playing 20-30 minutes of Doom a week, 18-21 weeks out of the year, compared to 2-3 hours a day for 52 weeks a year.&nbsp; And there are plenty of uneven games in these cases already.&nbsp; IDL is for the culmination of developing these skills, not for developing these skills itself.<br /><br />Even games are better games than uneven games period, and providing good games is (or should be) the [i]only[/i] aim of the IDL.&nbsp; For this reason, no arguments about how much play fourths get or how predictable or glorious games are will carry more weight than one about good or bad games; that is, none of these peripheral benefits could make it OK to promote or intentionally allow bad games in our league.&nbsp; There are lots of ways we could do this: fill out the talent pool, prune the talent pool, change the draft, change trade rules, change the number of teams, change the number of players on each team, whatever, as long as we keep in mind that our goal is to cultivate the best CTF games in multiplayer doom.<br /><br />Fast:&nbsp; We will post the winter schedule soon.&nbsp; Hope you can sign up.<br /><br />Stallion: Nobody&#039;s twisting your arm--we just play this game for fun--but the season would probably be better and we would probably get more of the other good players to sign up if you did.<br /><br />Hatred:&nbsp; You are a very good captain, and I think everybody appreciates the time and effort (and skill) that you offer to the IDL.&nbsp; Get in the pool.<br />BFG:<br />[IMG]http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/massvc/BFG-2.png[/img]<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(221, 22, 2, 1217733035, 19, 221, 'Re: Week 9 (July 28th-August 4th) : ZDCTF04', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '12.159.3.116', 1, 0, '', '[size=16pt][color=red][b]CRK: 2[/b][/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: MionicDonut, Radnsmash, Xenaero - 0 Flags<br />*Game 2: MionicDonut, Roscoe, Xenaero - 5 Flags<br />*Game 3: MionicDonut, Roscoe, Xenaero - 5 Flags<br /><br />[b][color=blue][size=16pt]BB: 1[/size][/color][/b]<br /><br />*Game 1: Nautilus, Ladna, Mistopher - 5 Flags<br />*Game 2: Nautilus, Ladna, Mistopher - 1 Flags<br />*Game 3: Nautilus, Ladna, Mistopher - 3 Flags<br /><br /><br />GGs guys! Close matches. 8)', 'xx', 1);
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	(222, 22, 2, 1217737223, 1, 222, 'Re: Week 9 (July 28th-August 4th) : ZDCTF04', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '65.214.200.239', 1, 0, '', '[size=16pt][color=red][b]WAD: 2[/b][/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: nostar, potent, icey - 5 Flags<br />*Game 2: nostar, potent, icey - 5 Flags<br /><br />[b][color=blue][size=16pt]DPT: 0[/size][/color][/b]<br /><br />*Game 1 : envy, oath, mid&nbsp; - 1 Flag<br />*Game 2:&nbsp; envy, oath, mid&nbsp; - 2 Flags<br /><br /><br />GGs DPT', 'xx', 1);
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	(223, 22, 2, 1217819939, 22, 223, 'Re: Week 9 (July 28th-August 4th) : ZDCTF04', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '99.228.211.181', 1, 1217820479, 'Shadow_Ghost', '[size=18pt][color=red]Cookie Monsters (CM) : 2[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: cM^Shadow, cM^Mantis - 5 Flags<br />*Game 2: cM^GhoulSlayeR, cM^Mantis - 2 Flags<br />*Game 3: cM^Shadow, cM^Mantis - 5 Flags<br /><br />[size=18pt][color=blue]Lords Of Nigeria (LON) : 1[/color][/size]<br /><br />*Game 1: [LON]KBlair, [LON]Acolyte - 2 Flags<br />*Game 2: [LON]KBlair, [LON]Acolyte - 5 Flags<br />*Game 3: [LON]KBlair, [LON]Acolyte - 4 Flags<br /><br />GG&#039;s LON intense games even for 2v2, a nice fast paced match to end the season.. WAD here we come! 8)<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(224, 24, 2, 1217886282, 1, 224, 'IDL SEASON IV: WILDCARD PLAYOFFS', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', '[b][size=16pt]Servers for&nbsp; Season IV Wildcard Playoffs[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][color=red][International Doom League - RNB HOMEFIELD - ZDCTF04][/color][/b]<br />69.64.49.142:11022<br />Password= seasonfour<br /><br />[b][color=blue][International Doom League - FFF HOMEFIELD - THIRTY19][/color][/b]<br />69.64.49.142:11023<br />Password= seasonfour<br /><br />[b][color=red][International Doom League Week - WAD HOMEFIELD - ZDCTF24][/color][/b]<br />69.64.49.142:11032<br />Password= seasonfour<br /><br />[b][color=blue][International Doom League - DPT HOMEFIELD - THIRTY13][/color][/b]<br />69.64.49.142:11033<br />Password= seasonfour<br /><br />[u][b](Red Nexus Servers to be added soon)[/b][/u]<br /><br />Post predictions, arrangements, and results here.<br /><br />[b]CAPTAINS, MAKE ARRANGEMENTS AND POST THE AGREED GAME TIME IN THIS THREAD.[/b]<br /><br />[size=16pt]Congratulations to all of those who made the playoffs this season![/size]', 'xx', 1);
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	(225, 24, 2, 1217887431, 22, 225, 'Re: IDL SEASON IV: WILDCARD PLAYOFFS', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '99.228.211.181', 1, 0, '', 'I Assume the TT Beta servers will have servers up with the under the same port?', 'xx', 1);
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	(226, 24, 2, 1217892181, 1, 226, 'Re: IDL SEASON IV: WILDCARD PLAYOFFS', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', 'yeah but we&#039;re still testing on those so i&#039;m not going to use them yet.<br />we&#039;ve got some .10 stuff to work out still but probably for next week.', 'xx', 1);
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	(227, 22, 2, 1217914845, 11, 227, 'Re: Week 9 (July 28th-August 4th) : ZDCTF04', 'Doomguy666', 'xdoomguy666x@hotmail.com', '96.18.32.149', 1, 0, '', '[color=red]Mass Destruction (MAD) : 2[/color]<br /><br />*Game 1: [MAD]Doomguy666, [MAD]Oscar, [MAD]Xephyr - 1 Flag<br />*Game 2: [MAD]Doomguy666, [MAD]Oscar, [MAD]HeX - 5 Flags<br />*Game 3: [MAD]Doomguy666, [MAD]Oscar, [MAD]HeX - 5 Flags<br /><br />[color=blue]Hot Wax Bandits (HWB) : 1[/color]<br /><br />*Game 1: [HWB]Collision, [HWB]Deadpool, [HWB]mikefails - 5 Flags<br />*Game 2: [HWB]Collision, [HWB]Deadpool, [HWB]mikefails - 2 Flags<br />*Game 3: [HWB]Collision, [HWB]Deadpool, [HWB]mikefails - 2 Flags<br /><br />ggz guys... was a great match to end the season!', 'xx', 1);
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	(228, 22, 2, 1217915574, 2, 228, 'Re: Week 9 (July 28th-August 4th) : ZDCTF04', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '70.102.121.145', 1, 0, '', 'yess ggs guys, its been a fun season.&nbsp; Its been rough but we had fun and hopefully we can sneak a bandit into a 1337 allstar game &gt;:)', 'xx', 1);
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	(229, 25, 2, 1217917335, 17, 263, 'Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 1218957765, 'MionicDonut', 'Attention IDL players.<br /><br />[b]The [color=blue]IDC All-Star Roster[/color] will be<br /><br />Cap: Kandy_Kid (Season 4 MVP with 16 votes)&nbsp; <br />Co-Cap: TAI (14 Votes)<br />Whiteboy (13 Votes)<br />Xenaero (11 Votes)<br />Gilgamesh (10 Votes)<br />Nautilus (10 Votes)<br />Mikehail (10 Votes) [/b]<br /><br />I know that is 7 people, we will figure something out<br /><br />[b]The [color=red]WDC All-Star Team[/color] will consist of<br /><br />Cap: Shadow_Ghost (15 Votes)<br />Co-Cap: HumanBones (14 Votes)<br />Nostar (13 Votes)<br />Ralphis (12 Votes)<br />Oath (10 Votes)<br />Potentpotables (10 Votes)<br />[/b]<br />For the decided maps, I went with a set of three community favorites that didn&#039;t make the cut for regular season maps (or playoffs for that matter) this time around, as well as two other awesome maps for all-star playing.<br /><br />These can be changed if I get enough objections to it.<br /><br />1- ZDCTF13 <br />2- ZDCTF01<br />3- THIRTY13<br />4- ZDCTF27<br />5- ZDCTF08<br /><br />========================================================<br />As always, good luck and Have fun. :)<br />', 'exclamation', 1);
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	(230, 25, 2, 1217917793, 23, 261, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'Nautilus', 'knotilus@myway.com', '96.240.133.74', 1, 1218942645, 'Nautilus', '[b][color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />DOOMGUY666 [MAD]<br />Oscar [MAD]<br />Xenaero [CRK]<br />Ladna [BBS]<br />Gilgamesh [RNB]<br />Roscoe [CRK]<br />[sup][color=yellow]<br />[size=1pt]I don&#039;t vote for trash (Tai, Fastidious, potentpotables, etc.: the people&#039;s treasure).[/size][/color][/sup]<br />[b]<br />[color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />Humanbones [CTB]<br />[s]Ralphis [CTB][/s] JKist3 [LON]<br />RottKing [LON]<br />Killingblair [LON]<br />Oath [DPT]<br />Iceykiller [WAD]<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(231, 25, 2, 1217918021, 17, 240, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 1217974932, 'MionicDonut', 'In no particular order...<br /><br />[b][color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />Kandy_Kid [HWB]<br />Xenaero [CRK]<br />Roscoe [CRK]<br />Nautilus [BBS]<br />Whiteboy [RNB]<br />Oscar [MAD]<br />[b][color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />Oath [DPT]<br />HumanBones [CTB]<br />Midian [DPT]<br />Shadow_Ghost [TCM]<br />Ralphis [CTB]<br />Killingblair [LON]<br />[s]<br />(For the record I would&#039;ve picked Bones but he said he didn&#039;t want to play D:)[/s]<br />oops', 'xx', 1);
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	(232, 24, 2, 1217919268, 1, 245, 'Re: IDL SEASON IV: WILDCARD PLAYOFFS', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1218467190, 'Ladna', '[color=black][size=14pt][b]-= Week 9 Demos Needed =-[/b][/size]<br />Blood<br />Iceykiller<br />GhoulSlayer<br /><br />-= Disqualified Players (not in playoffs, no consequences for no demo) =-<br />Nautilus<br />Ladna<br />Acolyte<br />Collision<br />Eazy-E<br />GhostlyDeath<br /><br /><br />[/color]', 'xx', 1);
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	(330, 37, 6, 1226248662, 73, 330, 'Re: IDL Signups Open', 'Quiksilver', 'joshbryantmusic@gmail.com', '76.215.33.40', 1, 0, '', 'Name: Quiksilver<br />Country : USA<br />Email: [email]joshbryantmusic@gmail.com[/email]<br />Instant Messenger: XOQuiksilver on AIM<br />irc.oftc.net #extremefamily', 'xx', 1);
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	(233, 25, 2, 1217919904, 2, 233, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '70.102.121.145', 1, 0, '', 'subject to change fools<br /><br />INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE<br />DOOMGUY666 [MAD]<br />Kandy_Kid [HWB]<br />Xenaero [CRK]<br />Fastidious [RNB]<br />Gilgamesh [RNB]<br />Tai [FFF] D:<br /><br /><br />WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE<br />Humanbones [CTB]<br />Nostar [WAD]<br />Shadow_Ghost [CM]<br />Marine [CUP]<br />Oath [DPT]<br />Potentpot [WAD]<br /><br />I say f bones he will play when I tell him to play &gt;:|<br />(For the record I wanted to pick Jkist3 but he didn&#039;t play in any games D:)', 'xx', 1);
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	(234, 25, 2, 1217920313, 67, 234, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'Iceykiller', 'infinitely_forgotten@yahoo.com', '67.189.33.156', 1, 0, '', '[color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color]<br />Fastidious [RNB]<br />Whiteboy [RNB]<br />Nautilus [BBS]<br />Xenaero [CRK]<br />Mikehail [HWB]<br />Tai [FFF]<br /><br />[color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color]<br />Nostar [WAD]<br />PotentPotables [WAD]<br />HumanBones [CTB]<br />Envy [DPT]<br />Oath [DPT]<br />Ralphis [CTB]<br /><br />\\o/<br />If any of those people didn&#039;t wanna be picked, someone tell me so I can hand my votes over to someone else. Kthx.<br />I also would have picked J, he&#039;s ma man, but as Mike said he never played. So sorry Jkist =(', 'xx', 1);
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	(235, 25, 2, 1217928044, 26, 246, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'Nero', 'nero323@hotmail.com', '77.101.52.56', 1, 1218564740, 'Nero', '[b][color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />Mikehail[HWB]<br />Xenaero[CRK]<br />Kandy[HWB]<br />Roscoe[CRK]<br />Whiteboy[RNB]<br />Tai[FFF]<br /><br />[b][color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />Envy[DPT]<br />Nostar [WAD]<br />Potent[WAD]<br />Shadow_Ghost[TCM]<br />Ralphis[CTB]<br />Stallion[TCM]', 'xx', 1);
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	(236, 25, 2, 1217938440, 10, 236, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.164.154.17', 1, 0, '', '[b][color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />Gilgamesh [RNB]<br />Whiteboy [RNB]<br />Doomguy666 [MAD]<br />Tai [FFF]<br />Xenaero [CRK]<br />Kandy Kid [HWB]<br /><br />[b][color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />Nostar [WAD]<br />PotentPotables [WAD]<br />Humanbones [CTB]<br />Shadow_Ghost [TCM]<br />Mantis-X [TCM]<br />Oath [DPT]', 'xx', 1);
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	(237, 25, 2, 1217955080, 7, 246, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.27.164', 1, 1218565452, 'Ladna', '[quote author=mikefails link=topic=25.msg233#msg233 date=1217919904]<br />(For the record I wanted to pick Jkist3 but he didn&#039;t play in any games D:)<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Ha ha, apparently he wasn&#039;t kidding when he said he wouldn&#039;t be around that much.&nbsp; Sorry for doubting you JKist3!<br /><br />[b][color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />Gilgamesh [RNB]<br />Whiteboy [RNB]<br />Oscar [MAD]<br />Nautilus [BBS]<br />Mikehail [HWB]<br />Kandy Kid [HWB]<br /><br />[b][color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />Nostar [WAD]<br />PotentPotables [WAD]<br />RottKing [LON]<br />Shadow_Ghost [TCM]<br />Stallion [TCM]<br />Midian [DPT]<br /><br />I also had the idea of having a &quot;Summer 2008 Rookie&quot; game, same rules as All-Star game.&nbsp; Rookies being:<br /><br />[b][color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />Gilgamesh [RNB]<br />GaX [RNB]<br />HeX_Vulture [MAD]<br />Xephyr [MAD]<br />Brainthunk [BBS]<br />Mistopher [BBS]<br />RadnSmash [CRK]<br />Collision [HWB]<br /><br />[b][color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />Nero [WAD]<br />IceyKiller [WAD]<br />MadV [CTB]<br />Marine [CUP]<br />Easy-E [CUP]<br />Killemall [LON] (sorry I left you off, I just looked at the IDL page)<br />Acolyte [LON]<br />Stallion [TCM]<br /><br />There&#039;s enough players to vote on 6 each side, or we can have an 8v8 clusterfuck, or we can limit players-per-team on the server to something lower and go with button mashing.&nbsp; What do you guys think?<br /><br />Oh, also I&#039;m not volunteering anyone, if a player wants out just say something (should such a game take place).&nbsp; And if I left anyone off, let me know.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(238, 4, 2, 1217958032, 7, 243, 'Re: Demo Upload Engine', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.27.164', 1, 1218140756, 'Ladna', '[size=16pt][b]*** What to do if you have problems ***[/b][/size]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]-- I uploaded to the wrong week[/b][/size]<br /><br />&nbsp; - Tell an admin and they will fix it, don&#039;t upload twice (save bandwidth!)<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]-- I keep getting &quot;authentication failed!&quot;[/b][/size]<br /><br />&nbsp; - If you&#039;re having trouble authenticating you can upload a tiny test file instead of a gigantic demo.&nbsp; It will save your time and our<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;  bandwidth, and when you get it working your demo will just overwrite that test file.<br />&nbsp; - Ensure you have registered on the forums.&nbsp; Demo upload requires that you have a valid forum account.<br />&nbsp; - You can use either your forum or your IDL player name (which can be found on the main IDL page), but try both just in case.<br />&nbsp; - Usernames and passwords are case-sensitive, so make sure you&#039;re paying attention to how you type your name.<br />&nbsp; - If none of these steps have worked (you&#039;ve used copy &amp; paste) and you still can&#039;t authenticate, visit the forums and have your<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;  password mailed to you.<br />&nbsp; - If you [b]still[/b] can&#039;t get it to work, talk to Ladna and he will work 1-on-1 with you.&nbsp; He will assume you&#039;ve tried all these things, and if you<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;  haven&#039;t... he will [b]kidney punch[/b] you.<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]-- I upload my demo, but it doesn&#039;t appear[/b][/size]<br /><br />&nbsp; Most likely you are having trouble maintaining the connection long enough to upload your file.&nbsp; Upload speeds for broadband internet are<br />&nbsp; typically 90% slower than download speeds, so while a demo takes about 8 seconds to download, it can often take more than a minute to<br />&nbsp; upload.<br /><br />&nbsp; - Close anything else using your internet connection, such as other computers, anti-virus programs, Windows update, YouTube, etc....<br />&nbsp; - Compress your demo (7-zip is a fabulous, free archiver with a great compression ratio).<br />&nbsp; - If all that fails, use a free upload service and give Ladna the link.&nbsp; He will take care of it.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(239, 25, 2, 1217959114, 25, 243, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'Killemall', 'nlonz@yahoo.com', '98.198.4.15', 1, 1217986962, 'Killemall', 'It&#039;s cool 8)<br /><br />[b][color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />Fastidious [RNB]<br />Gilgamesh [RNB]<br />Oscar [MAD]<br />Nautilus [BBS]<br />Tai [FFF]<br />Xenaero [CRK]<br />[b]<br />[color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />Nostar [WAD]<br />Ralphis [CTB]<br />Shadow_Ghost [TCM]<br />Stallion [TCM]<br />Oath [DPT]<br />Killingblair [LON]', 'xx', 1);
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	(240, 25, 2, 1217971571, 4, 240, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '68.62.47.157', 1, 0, '', 'INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE<br />Mikehail [HWB]<br />Whiteboy [RNB]<br />Doomguy666 [MAD]<br />Tai [FFF]<br />Xenaero [CRK]<br />Kandy Kid [HWB]<br /><br />WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE<br />Nostar [WAD]<br />PotentPotables [WAD]<br />Humanbones [CTB]<br />Shadow_Ghost [TCM]<br />Mantis-X [TCM]<br />Oath [DPT]', 'xx', 1);
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	(241, 25, 2, 1217975284, 19, 241, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '12.159.3.116', 1, 1217975511, 'Xenaero', '[center]<br />[b][color=blue][size=20pt]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/size][/color][/b]<br /><br />[u][b]Mikehail[/b][/u] [HWB]<br />[u][b]Kandy_Kid[/b][/u] [HWB]<br />[u][b]Roscoe[/b][/u] [CRK]<br />[u][b]Gilgamesh[/b][/u] [RNB]<br />[u][b]Whiteboy[/b][/u] [RNB]<br />[u][b]Nautilus[/b][/u] [BBS]<br /><br />[b][color=red][size=20pt]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/size][/color][/b]<br /><br />[u][b]HumanBones[/b][/u] [CTB]<br />[u][b]Ralphis[/b][/u] [CTB]<br />[u][b]Shadow_Ghost[/b][/u] [TCM]<br />[u][b]Mantis-X[/b][/u] [TCM]<br />[u][b]Envy[/b][/u] [DPT]<br />[u][b]Oath[/b][/u] [DPT]<br />[/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(6081, 591, 20, 1327495036, 75, 6081, 'Re: since we''re frivolously making new topics', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '178.209.142.37', 1, 0, '', 'it&#039;s even worse, lb. the deadline was there the whole time, but it was ignored for its obvious stupidity for many, many seasons. mass brought it up to lawyer his way through this latest drama festival, so now we&#039;re scouring the corners of the rule listing to uphold everything to the last dot. hopefully we&#039;ll pass a more sensible definition VERY soon.', 'xx', 1);
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	(243, 25, 2, 1217983415, 22, 243, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '99.228.211.181', 1, 0, '', '[color=blue][b]International Doom Conference[/b][/color]<br />Fastidious (RNB)<br />Gilgamesh (RNB)<br />Tai (FFF)<br />Doomguy666 (MAD)<br />Xenaero (CRK)<br />Kandy Kid (HWB)<br /><br />[color=red][b]World Doom Conference[/b][/color]<br />Nostar (WAD)<br />Humanbones (CTB)<br />Mantis-X (TCM)<br />Stallion (TCM)<br />Midian (DPT)<br />KillingBlair (LON)<br /><br />(Only chose one player per team from the WDC because its tough as fuck to pick 6 from these teams, except I had to put two TCM in there, because I love my little cookie monsters!)<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(244, 24, 2, 1218426104, 18, 244, 'Re: IDL SEASON IV: WILDCARD PLAYOFFS', 'oath', 'mattthejedi@gmail.com', '71.10.52.205', 1, 0, '', '[color=red][size=50pt]DPT: 2[/size]<br />[/color]<br />[b]*Game 1: Envy, Oath, Midian - 2 Flags<br />*Game 2: Envy, Oath, Midian - 5 Flags<br />*Game 3: Envy, Oath, Midian - 2 Flags<br />*Game 4: Envy, Oath, Midian - 2 Flags[/b]<br /><br /><br />[color=blue][size=50pt]CTB: 1[/size][/color]<br /><br />[b]*Game 1: Ralphis, Humanbones, Tony - 3 Flags<br />*Game 2: Ralphis, Humanbones, Tony - 1 Flags<br />*Game 3: Ralphis, Humanbones, Tony - 2 Flags<br />*Game 4: Ralphis, Humanbones, Tony - 1 Flags[/b]<br /><br />Helluvagame. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(245, 25, 2, 1218435952, 46, 245, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'Roscoe', 'dalekcomander@gmail.com', '71.111.7.7', 1, 0, '', 'Forgive any mistakes I may have made in my selection for assuming that the rosters on the front page are current and correct.<br /><br />[color=blue]International Doom Conference[/color]<br /><br />Fastidious -RNB<br />Xenaero -CRK<br />Whiteboy -RNB<br />Kandy_Kid -HWB<br />Nautilus -BBS<br />MikeHail -HWB<br /><br />[color=red]World Doom Conference[/color]<br /><br />Mantis-X -TCM<br />Nostar -WAD<br />Chubbs (Shadow_Ghost) -TCM<br />KillingBlair -LON<br />Midian -DPT<br />HumanBones -CTB<br /><br />I like Ladna&#039;s idea.<br /><br />[color=blue]International Doom Conference[/color]<br /><br />Gax -RNB<br />Xephyr -MAD<br />Collision -HWB<br />Mistopher -BBS<br />Brainthunk -BBS<br />RadnSmash (I&#039;d have picked myself, if I could&#039;ve, haha) -CRK<br /><br />[color=red]World Doom Conference[/color]<br /><br />IceyKiller -WAD<br />Nero -WAD<br />Acolyte -LON<br />MadV -CTB<br />Killemall -LON<br />Marine -CUP', 'xx', 1);
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	(246, 25, 2, 1218478826, 55, 246, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'ReXn0r', 'yannik_marcos@hotmail.com', '189.152.177.103', 1, 0, '', '[color=blue]International Doom Conference[/color]<br />Whiteboy (RNB)<br />Nautilus(BBS)<br />Tai (FFF)<br />Mikehail(HWB)<br />Roscoe (CRK)<br />Kandy Kid (HWB)<br /><br />[color=red]World Doom Conference[/color]<br />Nostar (WAD)<br />HumanBones (CTB)<br />Shadow_Ghost (TCM)<br />Oath(DPT)<br />Midian (DPT)<br />KillingBlair (LON)<br /><br />Picking the best out of WDC was really hard D:, dammit I wish I could&#039;ve picked my whole team as MVP, but I could only pick 2 from the same team :(&nbsp; ', 'xx', 1);
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	(247, 25, 2, 1218584345, 11, 247, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'Doomguy666', 'xdoomguy666x@hotmail.com', '96.18.33.221', 1, 0, '', '[color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color]<br />Whiteboy [RNB]<br />Nautilus [BBS]<br />Oscar [MAD]<br />HeX_Vulture [MAD]<br />Tai [FFF]<br />Kandy_Kid [HWB]<br /><br />[color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color]<br />Shadow_Ghost [TCM]<br />Ralphis [CTB]<br />HumanBones [CTB]<br />Nostar [WAD]<br />PotentPotables [WAD]<br />Oath [DPT]', 'xx', 1);
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	(248, 26, 2, 1218658455, 19, 248, 'IDL - A Look Ahead', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '12.159.3.116', 1, 0, '', 'And...here we are. Here we are, at the end of another season. The end of another International Doom League season. The fourth, in fact. That means this has been going for a little less than two years, now. It all started 1 year, 7 months, and 28 days ago. That&#039;s quite a long time, considering how quickly things can change in this sort of gaming community. The ports change, the players change, the teams change, the people change. All within a matter of months, yeah? By now you&#039;re probably wondering what I&#039;m getting at with my crazy rant, but I&#039;ll get to that. Remember when the first season started? In case you weren&#039;t around, or don&#039;t remember too clearly, I remember. It was an idea, I suppose. An idea that went way outside the norm of typical monthly tournaments or clan wars. This was a real [b]league[/b]! Something to draw everyone with a competitive thirst in, mix them all together, and go at it. And hey, it worked, didn&#039;t it? For four times, one right after the other. Winter, Summer, Winter, Summer. Who can forget the memorable playoff games, where it really heated up? What about Shaq Fu versus Sex Gods in Season One? PenUltimate&#039;s infamous 3v2 game in week 4 of Season Two? I doubt anyone forgot about Virgin Roster&#039;s shining moment against Pak Attack&#039;s playoff game in Season Three. And how about this season, where Deep Thrusts&#039; game versus ContraBanned became the heated epic battle everyone waits for? This league and even this [b]game[/b], almost [u]fifteen years old[/u] now, have become sort of a home for us. A place to meet, mix and mingle with players we probably otherwise wouldn&#039;t have. So, as Season Four comes to a close...Here we are, now what?<br /><br />No doubt many of you have heard of the recent rumors of IDL actually dying. After this season, many players said they will be done with it, possibly for good. I know what you might be thinking: &quot;[i]Well, everyone says that but they keep coming back for more![/i]&quot;... Yeah, maybe! They could also be burned out. Four seasons of intense competition in the space of two years? The seasons themselves last for months! That&#039;s just crazy, considering how there was virtually the opposite before IDL came into view. Does this mean the end of IDL? [b]I[/b] don&#039;t think so. It&#039;s most certainly not the end of IDL. Look at the ZDaemon Duel League, I mean, come on. That didn&#039;t die when Chaindude pulled his support. It didn&#039;t die when Red Nexus went under for a little while. And it hasn&#039;t died yet. But it&#039;s not the same, is it? It&#039;s under new management, is all! Some people like that, some don&#039;t. You can&#039;t change that it&#039;s a fact. Not every league or tournament, clan or organization, forum or website, will be run by the same person or group of people all the time. It&#039;s going to happen eventually. And it&#039;s happening now. Will the IDL simply fade out of existence, leaving the community without what has been a main source of competition with CTF growing more commonplace than 1v1? Will it survive under a new leadership, proving that everything does carry on in some form or another, continuing the intense Capture The Flag gameplay everyone still participating in this age-old game hungers for? Many people have said that they won&#039;t play another season, for one reason or another, or maybe even for no reason at all. Some will stay, some aren&#039;t sure.<br /><br />For the first time in a long while, the International Doom League&#039;s future is uncertain.<br /><br />What do you think will happen after this season is finished?', 'xx', 1);
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	(249, 26, 2, 1218658966, 17, 249, 'Re: IDL - A Look Ahead', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 0, '', 'People seem to be getting burned out of this at a disturbing rate.&nbsp; While the winter season collides with school near the later parts, the summer season deprives some competitors of outdoor time.&nbsp; Maybe its just my utterly disorganzied side thinking out loud, but i think we should go down to one season a year.&nbsp; On top of allowing more time for real lifee stuff,&nbsp; it would raise peoples enthusiasm and anticipation for it and make it even more of the major league sports theme which was supposedly intended.&nbsp; (Name one major league that has more than one series/game meant to determine a sole champion per year)&nbsp;  I love this league, and i would prefer it wouldnt die.&nbsp; :(', 'xx', 1);
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	(250, 26, 2, 1218662766, 7, 250, 'Re: IDL - A Look Ahead', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.27.164', 1, 0, '', 'Personally, my IDL experience was about 5% CTF and 95% dealing with crap.&nbsp; I can play DooM all day, I&#039;ve done it, I&#039;ve done it for several days in a row and I know other players who have done it too.&nbsp; I don&#039;t really get burnt out playing the game, I get burnt out dealing with one gay thing after another... and I wasn&#039;t even a captain!<br /><br />[quote]<br />While the winter season collides with school near the later parts, the summer season deprives some competitors of outdoor time.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Maybe I never go outside, but I just don&#039;t buy this.&nbsp; To be in the IDL, you have to be reachable (e-mail works pretty well, actually, but I don&#039;t think anyone uses it) and in #IDL for a total of 1 hour a week.&nbsp; Is that [b]really[/b] too much to ask?&nbsp; If it is, I suggest not signing up.&nbsp; EVERY SINGLE scheduling fuck up was either:<br />[list]<br />[li]a captain not showing[/li]<br />[li]a captain trying not to play without his best roster... which included an unreliable player[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />I mean goddammit, if you sign up for IDL, tell your captain when you can play, and get on then.&nbsp; If your captain wants to practice and you can&#039;t make it, say so.&nbsp; Your captain might trade you, but that&#039;s the way it goes.&nbsp; People aren&#039;t burnt out on CTF, they&#039;re burnt out dealing with fuck ups all the time.<br /><br />I&#039;m pretty sure this is why a lot of clan games have been played lately.&nbsp; Clans usually have &gt; 4 people, and if a couple of people aren&#039;t on, it doesn&#039;t make a difference.&nbsp; Sure, a lot of this is that there&#039;s no consequences for losing, so roster isn&#039;t critical... I&#039;m just saying it&#039;s evidence that people aren&#039;t tired of the game, they&#039;re tired of all the junk they have to go through to play a lousy 30-45 minutes of IDL CTF.<br /><br />It really irritates me (I don&#039;t know why though, I&#039;m not in the playoffs) that only 1 Wildcard game has been played, and we&#039;re in the middle of the Conference week.&nbsp; I understand that people get sick, jobs get lost (or found), vacations are taken, lungs collapse, computers break, etc. etc. etc.&nbsp; But we have this shiny new technology called a FORUM where you can make a POST about not being around (granted it&#039;s not always possible).&nbsp; I get the feeling that players view the whole thing as &quot;just a game&quot;, but when we sign up to be drafted onto a team (or especially if you sign up to be a captain), we make a commitment to our teammates and the league.&nbsp; The least we can do when we skip out on it is let someone know, so people aren&#039;t left hanging.<br /><br />[quote]<br />(Name one major league that has more than one series/game meant to determine a sole champion per year)<br />[/quote]<br />The PGA&nbsp; ;D !&nbsp; Or tennis or pool or bowling... tournament-based leagues.', 'xx', 1);
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	(251, 26, 2, 1218667051, 46, 251, 'Re: IDL - A Look Ahead', 'Roscoe', 'dalekcomander@gmail.com', '71.111.7.7', 1, 0, '', 'I dont&#039; think it will die as long as the word is continuing to be spread.', 'xx', 1);
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	(252, 26, 2, 1218727445, 1, 252, 'Re: IDL - A Look Ahead', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', 'Currently our founder and GM, Ralphis, is on a stringent boycott of #idl. This being said I see no future for the sport. Also, it occurs to me that if during the playoffs people aren&#039;t even interested enough to play their games, (Blood, GhoulSlayer) then we have a bigger problem than just veterans not returning for future seasons.<br /><br />That being said I think the DPT v CTB game was awesome, and I expect the other WDC contest to be as intense.<br />If we have a majority of players (new or old) that are interested in playing the IDL format, I don&#039;t see why it can&#039;t continue to grow. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(253, 25, 2, 1218773928, 20, 253, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'Mantis-X', 'nesman90@aol.com', '65.87.154.202', 1, 0, '', '[b]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/b]<br /><br />Whiteboy [RNB]<br />Nautilus [BBS]<br />Doomguy666 [MAD]<br />HeX_Vulture [MAD]<br />Tai [FFF]<br />Kandy_Kid [HWB]<br /><br />[b]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/b]<br /><br />Shadow_Ghost [TCM]<br />Ralphis [CTB]<br />Nero [WAD]<br />ItallionStallion [TCM]<br />Midian [DPT]<br />Rottking [LON]<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(254, 25, 2, 1218774435, 15, 254, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '67.71.168.199', 1, 0, '', 'INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE<br /><br />Whiteboy [RNB]<br />Gilgamesh [RNB]<br />Doomguy666 [MAD]<br />HeX_Vulture [MAD]<br />Tai [FFF]<br />Kandy_Kid [HWB]<br /><br />WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE<br /><br />Shadow_Ghost [TCM]<br />Ralphis [CTB]<br />PotentPotables [WAD]<br />Mantis-X [TCM]<br />Midian [DPT]<br />Envy [DPT]', 'xx', 1);
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	(255, 26, 2, 1218776892, 41, 255, 'Re: IDL - A Look Ahead', 'Marine', 'marine@endgameftw.com', '66.177.233.157', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;d be gladly to join and/or lead a team just as long as I can do it from the beginning of the season unlike how where this ended up. Ralphis: you can lead IDL still man. It&#039;s all us private players can really depend on for some wholesome fun competition. Some seasons just have their downs.', 'xx', 1);
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	(256, 24, 2, 1218821430, 9, 256, 'Re: IDL SEASON IV: WILDCARD PLAYOFFS', 'Cheww', 'yourmama@gmail.com', '74.232.2.182', 1, 0, '', '[color=red][size=22pt][b]WAD:&nbsp; 2[/b][/size][color=red][/color][/color]<br /><br />*Game 1: Nostar, Nero, Potent- 2 flags<br />*Game 2: Nostar, Nero, Potent- 0 flags<br />*Game 3: Nostar, Nero, Potent- 0 flags<br />*Game 4: Nostar, Nero, Potent- 0 flags<br />*Game 5: Nostar, Nero, Potent- 2 flags<br /><br /><br /><br />[color=blue][size=22pt][b]CM:&nbsp; 1[/b][/size][/color]<br /><br />*Game 1: Shadow, Mantis, Stallion- 0 flags<br />*Game 2: Shadow, Mantis, Stallion- 2 flags<br />*Game 3: Shadow, Mantis, Stallion- 0 flags<br />*Game 4: Shadow, Mantis, Stallion- 0 flags<br />*Game 5: Shadow, Mantis, Stallion- 0 flags<br /><br />awesome games!', 'xx', 1);
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	(257, 24, 2, 1218838460, 15, 257, 'Re: IDL SEASON IV: WILDCARD PLAYOFFS', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '67.68.222.221', 1, 0, '', 'GG&#039;s<br /><br /><br />Was going to look at the demo&#039;s before I posted mine, and I noticed PotentPotables&#039; demo isn&#039;t working.', 'xx', 1);
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	(258, 24, 2, 1218845611, 1, 259, 'Re: IDL SEASON IV: WILDCARD PLAYOFFS', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1218922564, 'nostar', '[s]yrs doesn&#039;t work right now either.<br />it&#039;s an issue with max characters in the sql table.<br />i&#039;m fixin it =)<br /><br />if you are interested in pot or stallions demos they can be viewed here for the time being:<br /><br />http://www.intldoomleague.org/demos/wildcard-WAD-vs-TCM-potentpotablesPOV_zdctfmp3-.zip<br />http://www.intldoomleague.org/demos/wildcard-TCM-vs-WAD-ItalianStallionPOV_zdctfmp3-.zip[/s]<br /><br />[b]EDIT[/b]: FIXED', 'xx', 1);
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	(259, 25, 2, 1218909841, 35, 259, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.224.27.197', 1, 0, '', '[color=blue][b]International Doom Conference[/b][/color]<br /><br />Tai [FFF]<br />Kandy_kid [HWB]<br />Fast[RNB]<br />Gilga[RNB]<br />Xenaero[CRK]<br />Doomguy666[MAD]<br /><br /><br />[color=red][b]World Doom Conference[/b][/color]<br /><br />PotentPotables[WAD]<br />Nero[WAD]<br />Ralphis[CTB]<br />Mantis-X[TCM]<br />Humanbones[CTB]<br />ItalianStallion[TCM]<br /><br />[That was damn hard to narrow it down to six in each conference]', 'xx', 1);
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	(260, 25, 2, 1218940880, 1, 260, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', '[b][color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />Doomguy666 [MAD]<br />Tai [FFF]<br />Mikehail [HWB]<br />Kandy Kid [HWB]<br />Ladna [BBS]<br />Gilgamesh [RNB]<br /><br />[b][color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />Humanbones [CTB]<br />Ralphis [CTB]<br />Potent [WAD]<br />Nero [WAD]<br />Shadow_Denny [TCM]<br />Jkist3 [LON]', 'xx', 1);
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	(261, 25, 2, 1218941810, 9, 261, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'Cheww', 'yourmama@gmail.com', '74.232.2.182', 1, 1218941981, 'Cheww', '[color=blue][color=red]International Doom Conference[/color][/color]<br /><br />Tai [FFF]<br />Mikehail [HWB]<br />Kandy Kid [HWB]<br />Fastidious [RNB]<br />Whiteboy [RNB]<br />Ladna [BBS]<br /><br /><br />[color=blue]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color]<br /><br />Nostar [WAD]<br />Nero [WAD]<br />Ralphis [CTB]<br />Humanbones [CTB]<br />Jkist3 [LON]<br />Shadow_Ghost [TCM]', 'xx', 1);
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	(262, 25, 2, 1218943003, 60, 262, 'Re: Summer 2008 All-Star game.', 'Jkist3', 'jefferson.kist@duke.edu', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1218943525, 'Jkist3', 'International Doom Conference<br /><br />mikehail<br />tenchu<br />NAUTILUS<br />mionic<br />HeX_Vulture<br />xephyr<br /><br /><br />World Doom Conference<br /><br />nostar<br />iceykiller<br />ralphis<br />ghostly<br />envy<br />rexnor<br /><br /><br />Hey what the heck is this.&nbsp; There&#039;s no rule that you cant vote for me if I&#039;ve never played.&nbsp; Mikehail and Icey: I demand you edit your votes to include me immediately.&nbsp; All of you should vote for me.&nbsp; I deserve it.&nbsp; NEW POLICY: if you vote for me, I&#039;ll edit my votes to vote for you too.&nbsp; Cmon guys I&#039;m going for season 4 mvp here.&nbsp; Let&#039;s make it happen.', 'xx', 1);
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	(263, 23, 2, 1218951351, 68, 263, 'Re: IDL Season 4: A Look Back ', 'Niv', 'n@oc9.org', '67.161.29.142', 1, 0, '', 'Yeah you should definitely do this.. would be very interesting.&nbsp; Make sure to put all the MasterBowls in (unless they were blowouts), and of course I&#039;m partial to the DSP games played by me + chew + nostar especially in the regular season.&nbsp; Some of those were amazing IMHO.<br /><br />If youre interested, I have a registered copy of fraps and a commercial mpeg4 converter to cut down on filesize.<br /><br />Ive also got Final Cut Pro on my MacBook Pro which is by far the best video editing software.<br /><br />Send me a PM if you&#039;d like my help', 'xx', 1);
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	(265, 24, 2, 1218999874, 17, 265, 'Re: IDL SEASON IV: WILDCARD PLAYOFFS', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.181', 1, 0, '', 'Its been a good season, good luck to all those who advanced.', 'xx', 1);
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	(266, 27, 2, 1219015662, 7, 266, 'IDL SEASON 4: CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 0, '', '[b][size=16pt]Servers for&nbsp; Season IV Conference Championships[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][color=red][International Doom League - RNB HOMEFIELD - ZDCTF04][/color][/b]<br />Red Nexus - 64.20.34.226:10102<br />TotalTrash - 69.64.49.142:11022<br />Password=seasonfour<br /><br />[b][color=blue][International Doom League Week - WAD HOMEFIELD - ZDCTF24][/color][/b]<br />Red Nexus - 64.20.34.226:10107<br />TotalTrash - 69.64.49.142:11032<br />Password=seasonfour<br /><br />Post predictions, arrangements, and results here.<br /><br />[b]CAPTAINS, MAKE ARRANGEMENTS AND POST THE AGREED GAME TIME IN THIS THREAD.[/b]<br /><br />[size=16pt]Congratulations to all finalists, the wildcard games were extremely intense and the conference championships should explode our heads![/size]', 'xx', 1);
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	(267, 27, 2, 1219016133, 7, 275, 'Re: IDL SEASON 4: CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '12.226.27.90', 1, 1219621720, 'Ladna', '[color=black][size=14pt][b]-= Week 9 Demos Needed =-[/b][/size]<br />Whiteboy<br />[/color]', 'xx', 1);
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	(268, 27, 2, 1219073220, 26, 268, 'Re: IDL SEASON 4: CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS', 'Nero', 'nero323@hotmail.com', '86.133.194.17', 1, 0, '', '[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spYcp0ZB4nM]I predict a riot.[/url]', 'xx', 1);
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	(269, 24, 2, 1219084912, 55, 269, 'Re: IDL SEASON IV: WILDCARD PLAYOFFS', 'ReXn0r', 'yannik_marcos@hotmail.com', '189.152.65.230', 1, 0, '', 'All Hail me, For I will be the first mexican to win the Masterbowl :D', 'xx', 1);
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	(8941, 839, 18, 1366898018, 145, 8941, 'Re: Week 6 Demos', 'Fluffles', 'petefredericknewton@hotmail.co.uk', '86.180.84.207', 1, 0, '', 'bones is the best, hopefully someday I&#039;ll be able to cook him dinner for when he gets home from work', 'xx', 1);
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	(270, 27, 2, 1219084991, 55, 270, 'Re: IDL SEASON 4: CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS', 'ReXn0r', 'yannik_marcos@hotmail.com', '189.152.65.230', 1, 0, '', 'I predict Epicness :D<br />All Hail me For I Will be the first mexican to win the Masterbowl', 'xx', 1);
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	(6888, 667, 23, 1337878370, 38, 6888, 'Re: Blue Division Results &amp; Demos', 'Sabertooth', 'ssj4chazou@hotmail.com', '74.91.72.110', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;m starting to see a trend when I play against players whos ping drift/stay above 100 ping. An odd delay in shots starts to occur who know could be the classic OS style that I never bothed to play back in the day.<br /><br />GGs though i guess Fluffles<br /><br />Anyway here is my demo: <br />http://www.sendspace.com/file/3zabjj', 'xx', 1);
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	(273, 27, 2, 1219606024, 18, 273, 'Re: IDL SEASON 4: CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS', 'oath', 'mattthejedi@gmail.com', '71.10.52.205', 1, 0, '', '[color=blue][size=50pt]DPT: 2[/size]<br />[/color]<br />*Game 1: Envy, Oath, Midian - 0 Flags<br />*Game 2: Envy, Oath, Midian - 2 Flags<br />*Game 3: Envy, Oath, Midian - 0 Flags<br />*Game 4: Envy, Oath, Midian - 0 Flags<br />*Game 5: Envy, Oath, Midian - 2 Flags<br /><br />[color=red]<br />[size=25pt]WAD: 1[/size][/color]<br /><br />*Game 1: Potent, Nostar, Nero - 0 Flags<br />*Game 2: Potent, Nostar, Nero - 0 Flags<br />*Game 3: Potent, Nostar, Nero - 1 Flags<br />*Game 4: Potent, Nostar, Nero - 0 Flags<br />*Game 5: Potent, Nostar, Nero - 0 Flags<br /><br />mb baby', 'xx', 1);
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	(274, 27, 2, 1219612322, 20, 274, 'Re: IDL SEASON 4: CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS', 'Mantis-X', 'nesman90@aol.com', '65.87.154.202', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=oath link=topic=27.msg273#msg273 date=1219606024]<br />[color=blue][size=50pt]DPT: 2[/size]<br />[/color]<br />*Game 1: Envy, Oath, Midian - 0 Flags<br />*Game 2: Envy, Oath, Midian - 2 Flags<br />*Game 3: Envy, Oath, Midian - 0 Flags<br />*Game 4: Envy, Oath, Midian - 0 Flags<br />*Game 5: Envy, Oath, Midian - 2 Flags<br /><br />[color=red]<br />[size=25pt]WAD: 1[/size][/color]<br /><br />*Game 1: Potent, Nostar, Nero - 0 Flags<br />*Game 2: Potent, Nostar, Nero - 0 Flags<br />*Game 3: Potent, Nostar, Nero - 1 Flags<br />*Game 4: Potent, Nostar, Nero - 0 Flags<br />*Game 5: Potent, Nostar, Nero - 0 Flags<br /><br />mb baby<br />[/quote]<br /><br /><br />Thank god... Great job DPT... Awesome to see a deserving team make it to the Masterbowl.', 'xx', 1);
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	(275, 26, 2, 1219612865, 20, 275, 'Re: IDL - A Look Ahead', 'Mantis-X', 'nesman90@aol.com', '65.87.154.202', 1, 0, '', 'I agree with what Fastidious said... The fun gets ruined far too often now by people more concerned with getting/finding an advantage than actually having a good game. I hope the IDL does make some positive changes that will make the league more competitive and less with assholes that ruin the fun...<br /><br />I&#039;ve grown burned out playing all season only to have something stupid happen in the playoffs that makes it end in drama and bitterness rather than a well played game. Always some kind of server error that ironically involved the Total Trash servers both times... (Anger gets autobanned during the match first season... then the second one the server starts acting up then plays like pure shit afterwards) .... <br /><br />I&#039;m at the point now where it wouldn&#039;t matter if the team I was on won or lost as long as the games are fun and competitive. Private AND public CTF have become more entertaining than playing here because I&#039;ve learned just as much crap goes on here as it does in public CTF.<br /><br />If we have another season next year, sure I&#039;ll be back probably... and hopefully I&#039;d end up (or captain) a team like I had this year with Ghost and Stallion.... and only hope I&#039;d never end up on a team like the one we faced in the playoffs no matter how good they were. Winning isn&#039;t that important.', 'xx', 1);
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	(276, 26, 2, 1219629341, 7, 276, 'Re: IDL - A Look Ahead', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '97.115.133.40', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg272#msg272 date=1219273876]<br />[list]<br />[li]Too much bullshit, over competitiveness[/li]<br />[li]Need an admin who: is around a lot to deal with crises[/li]<br />[li]Need an admin who: adapts rules quickly to fix things[/li]<br />[li]Need an admin who: takes chances mixing things up with new seasons[/li]<br />[li]3v2 / 3v1 games suck[/li]<br />[li]Demo penalties suck[/li]<br />[li]Scheduling a game is a new nightmare every week[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I get the impression that a lot of IDL players share Fastidious&#039;s concerns, and I want to kind of go down the list and explain my understanding of why things are the way they are.<br /><br />[b]Too much bullshit, over competitiveness[/b]<br /><br />I think there&#039;s two kinds of IDL players:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Players who play to have fun[/li]<br />[li]Players who play to win[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />There&#039;s no point in telling a player they&#039;re &quot;being too competitive&quot;.&nbsp; The only thing IDL can do is make rules that make competition fair.&nbsp; You can totally debate all day on what is &quot;fair&quot; or not (3v2s, 2v2s, server agreements, time of day/scheduling), and you can lobby for rules against stuff you think is lame, but complaining that someone is &quot;too competitive&quot; is being obviously butthurt.&nbsp; You and your opponent had the same rules, and you were out competed.&nbsp; Tough.&nbsp; In fact, I&#039;d say that players making the IDL competitive isn&#039;t the problem, people making the IDL personal is.<br /><br />[b]Need an admin who:[/b]<br />[list]<br />[li][b]Is around a lot to deal with crises[/b][/li]<br />[li][b]Adapts rules quickly to fix things[/b][/li]<br />[li][b]Takes chances mixing things up with new seasons[/b][/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />I might be wrong, but aren&#039;t there 3 admins (Ralphis, Fastidious and Humanbones)?&nbsp; I know whenever there were problems with the demos Ralphis would leave it to Nostar and me to resolve it.&nbsp; Maybe the problem is that the &#039;leadership&#039; structure of IDL isn&#039;t as obvious as it should be.&nbsp; In any case, the answer is probably more than one admin.&nbsp; Having one guy hanging around all day every day isn&#039;t feasible... even if it is, that one person is probably extremely maladjusted (I&#039;m looking at you nostar!) and would benefit from input from normal people.&nbsp; Anyway, I thought there were already multiple admins, and if there aren&#039;t, there should be.&nbsp; Whatever the case is, this stuff should be public so players know how to resolve issues that come up.<br /><br />Also, IDL has almost no rules.&nbsp; The few rules that do exist are always adapted to the current situation (Bloodstrike&#039;s demo issue is a good example), and I honestly can&#039;t think of a time where Ralphis didn&#039;t arbitrate effectively.&nbsp; I don&#039;t really see what could be done differently or more &quot;quickly&quot;, but I&#039;m open to hearing some examples.<br /><br />IDL has also changed pretty drastically over its 4 seasons, from creating the mid-season draft, to increasing the numbers of teams and games, to running the pre-season draft live, and even creating a demo upload system.&nbsp; I think it&#039;s easy to forget that there are things about IDL that are waaaaay better than they used to be, just because some stuff currently sucks.&nbsp; Everyone&#039;s got their little list of &quot;5 things I&#039;d change about IDL&quot; and I think we&#039;ll talk about that stuff after the Masterbowl, but it&#039;s a little disingenuous to insinuate that Ralphis hasn&#039;t &quot;mixed things up&quot;.<br /><br />[b]3v2 / 3v1 /2v1 games suck[/b]<br /><br />Yeah, they do.&nbsp; But the alternative is forcing a team to play without some of its players, even if they didn&#039;t do anything wrong and they showed up.&nbsp; Let&#039;s take a hypothetical situation (sorry, it&#039;s kinda confusing):<br /><br />Team A has two &quot;premier&quot; players, and two... &quot;not-so-great&quot; players.&nbsp; One of the &quot;not-so-great&quot; players has lag problems, and has basically dropped out of IDL because it&#039;s pointless for him to keep showing up.&nbsp; During Week 2, the other &quot;not-so-great&quot; player forgot to demo, so he has to sit out the first round of Week 3.&nbsp; Team A&#039;s Week 3 opponent is Team B, which has 3 solid players, but none are as good as Team A&#039;s top two.<br /><br />Here are the problems:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]It isn&#039;t fair at all that Team B should be forced to play a disadvantageous 2v2 game against Team A (which they&#039;ll probably lose... forcing them to risk more on offense in the subsequent games and possibly costing them the entire match), when Team B didn&#039;t even do anything wrong.[/li]<br />[li]Team A can consistently do this to other teams that are similar to Team B using the excuse &quot;Player C isn&#039;t around, and Player D&#039;s connection won&#039;t stay connected for more than a few minutes&quot;?[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />Fundamentally, if your players aren&#039;t showing up, or if they&#039;re failing to demo for whatever reason (forgot, corruption, etc.), the other team shouldn&#039;t be punished by cutting its team down.&nbsp; A good real life example is when BBS played MAD Week 7 (ODA04); MAD would&#039;ve crushed us in a 3v3, but they graciously agreed to play us 2v2 and we were a lot more competitive than we should have been.&nbsp; Sure it was great of Doomguy to do that for us, but nothing about it was &quot;fair&quot; in the larger sense.<br /><br />So while I agree that unbalanced games are pretty lame, it&#039;s nothing compared to manipulating the other team to play with a weaker roster with &quot;attendance issues&quot; or &quot;demo problems&quot;.&nbsp; Sure there&#039;s a few things that can be done administratively, but you end up dealing with player attendance, which is complicated.&nbsp; It is [b]NOT[/b] as simple as just disallowing unbalanced games, in fact, I&#039;ll bluntly say that&#039;s stupid.<br /><br />[b]Demo rules suck[/b]<br /><br />This issue is actually very simple for me:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Cheating sucks 1000x more, because it cheapens the competitive nature of the league[/li]<br />[li]As long as Ralphis/Doomguy/MadV/DeathBR1nger (anyone else?) are in the league, servers have to be unadvertised.[/li]<br />[li]Not everyone is listed on the banlist for cheating, and there&#039;s no reason the ZD administration should dictate IDL membership (if someone is banned for cheating it&#039;s a little different).[/li]<br />[li]Kilgore&#039;s software detection doesn&#039;t operate on unadvertised servers, so without some other kind of anti-cheat motivation, we&#039;re just asking for cheaters in the IDL.[/li]<br />[li]Most players have [b]never[/b] had a technological problem with their demos or auto-demoing.[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />And this &quot;the demo rules are punishing the innocent&quot; thing is going way too far.&nbsp; There are 258 demos and there have been 7 demo infractions (of which 2 were Bloodstrike), meaning there was a 2.71% demo infraction rate in the IDL this season, which is pretty damn low.&nbsp; If you just take the &quot;bad/corrupt demo&quot; infraction, there&#039;s a 1.6% demo infraction rate (4).&nbsp; If you consider Bloodstrike should have uploaded his first demo, received his first &quot;your demo is corrupt&quot; notice, and not played until his demoing worked again, it goes down to 1.1%.&nbsp; I mean, 1.1% is better than God does with humans (so is 2.71% for that matter), so I don&#039;t know what you want from us.&nbsp; Requiring a demo from a player for every game they play is the only thing that prevents cheating in the IDL.&nbsp; Any compromise on what we currently have makes it easier to cheat, and given how low the demo infraction rate was and how easy it is to auto-demo, I [b]really[/b] don&#039;t see the argument against it.<br /><br />[b]Scheduling a game is a new nightmare every week[/b]<br /><br />Yep, and dealing with player attendance is complicated, especially if you don&#039;t want to allow unbalanced games.&nbsp; It sounds as simple as &quot;Ralphis should have made consequences for not scheduling games&quot;, but trying to find which team was at fault for not scheduling is really hard, and figuring how how to penalize a team for not scheduling is even harder.<br /><br />Like I said, everyone has their &quot;5 things I&#039;d change about IDL&quot; list, and we can talk about those later.&nbsp; I just think we should chill with some of the &quot;IDL SUCKS!!!!!!1111!!!&quot; stuff because a lot of the problems can&#039;t be solved with just a little tweak.&nbsp; I know I&#039;m personally guilty of saying that Ralphis should have put teeth in the game scheduling rule, but after thinking about it I realized it wasn&#039;t that easy.&nbsp; I also think there were a lot of really positive things that happened this season, and we shouldn&#039;t just gloss over those.&nbsp; Buck up!', 'xx', 1);
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	(277, 26, 2, 1219686419, 19, 277, 'Re: IDL - A Look Ahead', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '12.159.3.116', 1, 0, '', 'Hoo, boy! Now we got some discussion goin&#039;. Let&#039;s see if we can get anywhere with fixing these problems, yeah?<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna link=topic=26.msg276#msg276 date=1219629341]<br />[b]Too much bullshit, over competitiveness[/b]<br /><br />I think there&#039;s two kinds of IDL players:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Players who play to have fun[/li]<br />[li]Players who play to win[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />There&#039;s no point in telling a player they&#039;re &quot;being too competitive&quot;.&nbsp; The only thing IDL can do is make rules that make competition fair.&nbsp; You can totally debate all day on what is &quot;fair&quot; or not (3v2s, 2v2s, server agreements, time of day/scheduling), and you can lobby for rules against stuff you think is lame, but complaining that someone is &quot;too competitive&quot; is being obviously butthurt.&nbsp; You and your opponent had the same rules, and you were out competed.&nbsp; Tough.&nbsp; In fact, I&#039;d say that players making the IDL competitive isn&#039;t the problem, people making the IDL personal is.[/quote]<br /><br />I fully agree with this, and to expect otherwise is a little absurd, considering that there are a good number of players who do want to win, seeing as it [b]is[/b] a league, there&#039;s a goal clearly set on being the best team out there. A players have a lot of fun winning. But look, this is Doom, and being as how small of a community it really is, everyone knows each other, so you&#039;re going to have at least some people create or revive grudges as the seasons go on. It&#039;s just how it&#039;s going to be. What you can do to avoid this is either to ignore IRC for pretty much most of the time, or just take short breaks from it, if it proves to be too much. If it doesn&#039;t involve you, I can&#039;t see it being a problem that can&#039;t be avoided.<br /><br />No one is forcing anyone to sign up again if the heat of the IDL is proving too much to handle. There&#039;s players that keep coming back and playing season after season, so it&#039;s not like there&#039;s a mass exodus of players from IDL happening, so it doesn&#039;t seem to me like a problem that really [b]needs[/b] fixing. Then again, it&#039;s not like you can &#039;fix&#039; it anyway. It lies in players&#039; attitudes and sportsmanship, more than anything else. It&#039;s up to them, not really the administration. Take Tai for example. That guy causes some strife, sure. Is it good for the sake of competition? Why not? Every time someone talks shit it&#039;s good to make them eat their words, making people practice that much more when they&#039;re up against a team with a player or players that they dislike. I don&#039;t think this is a bad thing, unless it&#039;s taken to a point where players leave, like Radnsmash, for example.<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna link=topic=26.msg276#msg276 date=1219629341][b]Need an admin who:[/b]<br />[list]<br />[li][b]Is around a lot to deal with crises[/b][/li]<br />[li][b]Adapts rules quickly to fix things[/b][/li]<br />[li][b]Takes chances mixing things up with new seasons[/b][/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />I might be wrong, but aren&#039;t there 3 admins (Ralphis, Fastidious and Humanbones)?&nbsp; I know whenever there were problems with the demos Ralphis would leave it to Nostar and me to resolve it.&nbsp; Maybe the problem is that the &#039;leadership&#039; structure of IDL isn&#039;t as obvious as it should be.&nbsp; In any case, the answer is probably more than one admin.&nbsp; Having one guy hanging around all day every day isn&#039;t feasible... even if it is, that one person is probably extremely maladjusted (I&#039;m looking at you nostar!) and would benefit from input from normal people.&nbsp; Anyway, I thought there were already multiple admins, and if there aren&#039;t, there should be.&nbsp; Whatever the case is, this stuff should be public so players know how to resolve issues that come up.[/quote]<br /><br />I don&#039;t know about this. What are you saying, here? That the current administrators are not up to the task of keeping up with the IDL currently? If so, the solution would be to add more admins? I don&#039;t think so. No administrator has to be on 24/7 to keep up with events. If there is a pressing event that needs to be tended to, it will either be brought to their attention when they [b]are[/b] active, it would get posted here, or they would be sent a PM. Either way, I don&#039;t see solid examples to Fastidious&#039; complaints. Adapting the rules quickly to deal with problems? Hmm, that wouldn&#039;t have anything to do with this season&#039;s mid-season draft, would it? Also, I&#039;d see it as kind of hard to come up with new ideas for the upcoming seasons if there is little to no input from players on what should be changed, rather than just saying &#039;fix this&#039;.<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna link=topic=26.msg276#msg276 date=1219629341]Also, IDL has almost no rules.&nbsp; The few rules that do exist are always adapted to the current situation (Bloodstrike&#039;s demo issue is a good example), and I honestly can&#039;t think of a time where Ralphis didn&#039;t arbitrate effectively.&nbsp; I don&#039;t really see what could be done differently or more &quot;quickly&quot;, but I&#039;m open to hearing some examples.[/quote]<br /><br />Of course, you realize that there are opponents to Ralphis and the IDL&#039;s administration in general. Chaindude comes to mind. However, whenever I saw him complaining about rules or how the IDL is being run, I never saw a solution or even a suggestion put forth to address the problem. Then again, I do not know what goes on behind closed doors, so this is merely an assumption.<br /><br />Nevertheless, you [b]need[/b] ideas and support from the players before the administration feels that it&#039;s in a position to change anything! If no one speaks up or offers suggestions, nothing will happen that will satisfy the players.<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna link=topic=26.msg276#msg276 date=1219629341]IDL has also changed pretty drastically over its 4 seasons, from creating the mid-season draft, to increasing the numbers of teams and games, to running the pre-season draft live, and even creating a demo upload system.&nbsp; I think it&#039;s easy to forget that there are things about IDL that are waaaaay better than they used to be, just because some stuff currently sucks.&nbsp; Everyone&#039;s got their little list of &quot;5 things I&#039;d change about IDL&quot; and I think we&#039;ll talk about that stuff after the Masterbowl, but it&#039;s a little disingenuous to insinuate that Ralphis hasn&#039;t &quot;mixed things up&quot;.[/quote]<br /><br />Well, I agree, but without an idea as to what Fast meant by &#039;mixing things up&#039;, I don&#039;t think anyone&#039;s in a position to insinuate anything. Things have improved, but there are lingering issues that have not been pinned down. Hopefully, this topic will serve as a grounds for discussion of those issues and solutions for them.<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna link=topic=26.msg276#msg276 date=1219629341][b]3v2 / 3v1 /2v1 games suck[/b]<br /><br />Yeah, they do.&nbsp; But the alternative is forcing a team to play without some of its players, even if they didn&#039;t do anything wrong and they showed up.&nbsp; Let&#039;s take a hypothetical situation (sorry, it&#039;s kinda confusing):<br /><br />Team A has two &quot;premier&quot; players, and two... &quot;not-so-great&quot; players.&nbsp; One of the &quot;not-so-great&quot; players has lag problems, and has basically dropped out of IDL because it&#039;s pointless for him to keep showing up.&nbsp; During Week 2, the other &quot;not-so-great&quot; player forgot to demo, so he has to sit out the first round of Week 3.&nbsp; Team A&#039;s Week 3 opponent is Team B, which has 3 solid players, but none are as good as Team A&#039;s top two.<br /><br />Here are the problems:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]It isn&#039;t fair at all that Team B should be forced to play a disadvantageous 2v2 game against Team A (which they&#039;ll probably lose... forcing them to risk more on offense in the subsequent games and possibly costing them the entire match), when Team B didn&#039;t even do anything wrong.[/li]<br />[li]Team A can consistently do this to other teams that are similar to Team B using the excuse &quot;Player C isn&#039;t around, and Player D&#039;s connection won&#039;t stay connected for more than a few minutes&quot;?[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />Fundamentally, if your players aren&#039;t showing up, or if they&#039;re failing to demo for whatever reason (forgot, corruption, etc.), the other team shouldn&#039;t be punished by cutting its team down.&nbsp; A good real life example is when BBS played MAD Week 7 (ODA04); MAD would&#039;ve crushed us in a 3v3, but they graciously agreed to play us 2v2 and we were a lot more competitive than we should have been.&nbsp; Sure it was great of Doomguy to do that for us, but nothing about it was &quot;fair&quot; in the larger sense.<br /><br />So while I agree that unbalanced games are pretty lame, it&#039;s nothing compared to manipulating the other team to play with a weaker roster with &quot;attendance issues&quot; or &quot;demo problems&quot;.&nbsp; Sure there&#039;s a few things that can be done administratively, but you end up dealing with player attendance, which is complicated.&nbsp; It is [b]NOT[/b] as simple as just disallowing unbalanced games, in fact, I&#039;ll bluntly say that&#039;s stupid.[/quote]<br /><br />I think they should be allowed, personally. You already explained how it breaks down so I won&#039;t repeat that, but look at it this way. If you&#039;ve signed up for the IDL, you have essentially told everyone in the league that you WILL set aside playing time, because come on, one hour a week is not that hard to conjure up. If it is, then you should not have signed up in the first place, and doom your team to play handicapped. This is why there are four players, which is a vast improvement in case some emergency comes up in a player&#039;s life, or if they&#039;re caught off guard by work or school, or something else. It&#039;s not that hard, though, in the grand scheme of things, to devote at least some time to a competitive league that you signed up for! If you can&#039;t make it, there&#039;s no reason the other team should have to be punished for your lack of scheduling. That&#039;s just how it works.<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna link=topic=26.msg276#msg276 date=1219629341][b]Demo rules suck[/b]<br /><br />This issue is actually very simple for me:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Cheating sucks 1000x more, because it cheapens the competitive nature of the league[/li]<br />[li]As long as Ralphis/Doomguy/MadV/DeathBR1nger (anyone else?) are in the league, servers have to be unadvertised.[/li]<br />[li]Not everyone is listed on the banlist for cheating, and there&#039;s no reason the ZD administration should dictate IDL membership (if someone is banned for cheating it&#039;s a little different).[/li]<br />[li]Kilgore&#039;s software detection doesn&#039;t operate on unadvertised servers, so without some other kind of anti-cheat motivation, we&#039;re just asking for cheaters in the IDL.[/li]<br />[li]Most players have [b]never[/b] had a technological problem with their demos or auto-demoing.[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />And this &quot;the demo rules are punishing the innocent&quot; thing is going way too far.&nbsp; There are 258 demos and there have been 7 demo infractions (of which 2 were Bloodstrike), meaning there was a 2.71% demo infraction rate in the IDL this season, which is pretty damn low.&nbsp; If you just take the &quot;bad/corrupt demo&quot; infraction, there&#039;s a 1.6% demo infraction rate (4).&nbsp; If you consider Bloodstrike should have uploaded his first demo, received his first &quot;your demo is corrupt&quot; notice, and not played until his demoing worked again, it goes down to 1.1%.&nbsp; I mean, 1.1% is better than God does with humans (so is 2.71% for that matter), so I don&#039;t know what you want from us.&nbsp; Requiring a demo from a player for every game they play is the only thing that prevents cheating in the IDL.&nbsp; Any compromise on what we currently have makes it easier to cheat, and given how low the demo infraction rate was and how easy it is to auto-demo, I [b]really[/b] don&#039;t see the argument against it.[/quote]<br /><br />This makes me curious. I didn&#039;t see a topic detailing how to auto-demo, which would save players [b]so[/b] much agony in demoing and whatever. Am I blind, or is there just not one around? This would be essential for players who don&#039;t know how to auto-demo yet, and in my opinion, would save everyone a lot of hassle and blood pressure.<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna link=topic=26.msg276#msg276 date=1219629341][b]Scheduling a game is a new nightmare every week[/b]<br /><br />Yep, and dealing with player attendance is complicated, especially if you don&#039;t want to allow unbalanced games.&nbsp; It sounds as simple as &quot;Ralphis should have made consequences for not scheduling games&quot;, but trying to find which team was at fault for not scheduling is really hard, and figuring how how to penalize a team for not scheduling is even harder.<br /><br />Like I said, everyone has their &quot;5 things I&#039;d change about IDL&quot; list, and we can talk about those later.&nbsp; I just think we should chill with some of the &quot;IDL SUCKS!!!!!!1111!!!&quot; stuff because a lot of the problems can&#039;t be solved with just a little tweak.&nbsp; I know I&#039;m personally guilty of saying that Ralphis should have put teeth in the game scheduling rule, but after thinking about it I realized it wasn&#039;t that easy.&nbsp; I also think there were a lot of really positive things that happened this season, and we shouldn&#039;t just gloss over those.&nbsp; Buck up!<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Well, this is true, none of the problems listed can be solved [b]easily[/b], which is why the community and league players have to get involved in order to find a solution everyone likes. Someone may have an idea that will really help, but can&#039;t or aren&#039;t able to speak up. If everyone got involved, I&#039;m almost positive many of these remaining problems would at the very least get a good amount of attention.<br /><br />As for team scheduling, it&#039;s unlikely 6 players would all get together on a work night, be they either working or attending school that week. If the problem is because of a bunch of games all happening on the weekend, I don&#039;t know how you&#039;d avoid that easily. Seeing as it&#039;s happened since the start of the IDL, it&#039;s become commonplace, hasn&#039;t it? I think a big problem though is that players, instead of saying &#039;lets practice&#039; or &#039;lets play this game&#039; or even &#039;what time are you all on, so we can schedule the match?&#039;, they&#039;ll go off and play public ctf, or some other game, or just goof off on IRC. There&#039;s nothing [b]wrong[/b] with that, but come on, if you&#039;re going to gripe about the other team not getting their shit together, at least make an effort to help everyone out, first, including your opponent&#039;s team. That is common courtesy and in everyone&#039;s interest. I think we&#039;ve lost sight of that as a group.', 'xx', 1);
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	(278, 26, 2, 1219688516, 2, 278, 'Re: IDL - A Look Ahead', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '97.113.108.5', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=26.msg277#msg277 date=1219686419]<br /><br />This makes me curious. I didn&#039;t see a topic detailing how to auto-demo, which would save players [b]so[/b] much agony in demoing and whatever. Am I blind, or is there just not one around? This would be essential for players who don&#039;t know how to auto-demo yet, and in my opinion, would save everyone a lot of hassle and blood pressure.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />There was a topic for autodemoing that chaindude had put up on DE to show how to in IDE and ZD Launcher.&nbsp; This topic hasn&#039;t quite found its way back yet, I&#039;d make one but I don&#039;t use IDE so I&#039;m in the dark there as well.', 'xx', 1);
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	(280, 26, 2, 1219699964, 7, 280, 'Re: IDL - A Look Ahead', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.29.37', 1, 1219700796, 'Ladna', 'I made a [url=http://www.intldoomleague.org/forums/index.php?topic=28.0][color=blue]topic[/color][/url] on auto-demoing, so it&#039;ll be easy to find.', 'xx', 1);
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	(7296, 715, 17, 1345308372, 19, 7296, 'Re: I''m banned', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '184.1.245.86', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Mobius link=topic=715.msg7294#msg7294 date=1345268736]<br />UD logic right here. Ralphis called me a bitch because he believed I never stood up to him, but whenever I did he would ban me so I wouldn&#039;t.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Uh oh someone hasn&#039;t learned their lesson yet [img]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c31/cincywest/emoticon_shh.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(1553, 170, 11, 1267058891, 157, 1553, 'Re: Week 7 (Feb 15 - Feb 21) : ZDECTFMP2 (MAP07) - Discussion and Results', 'Legion_', 'theomegaantin00b@gmail.com', '71.116.2.222', 1, 0, '', 'http://www.mediafire.com/?xcxydcaedny<br /><br />My demo!', 'xx', 1);
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	(3224, 370, 14, 1294819392, 131, 3224, 'Re: Comments during matches...', 'Gyrossman', 'mistero@seznam.cz', '81.30.241.160', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Hatred link=topic=370.msg3221#msg3221 date=1294809480]<br />chat_block spec / chat_unblock spec or something like that<br />[/quote]<br />comments during games are very entertaining imo', 'xx', 1);
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	(3609, 398, 14, 1299023058, 130, 3609, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '38.109.187.5', 1, 0, '', '[size=1]more like....[/size][b][size=5]MOST VALUABLE PECS !!!!![/size][/b]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3774, 411, 14, 1300300104, 19, 3774, 'Re: Season 9 / Winter 2011 Playoffs: The Semifinal Round - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.249.152', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ralphis link=topic=411.msg3758#msg3758 date=1300239199]<br />They are Conference Championship games. A bigger deal than just the &quot;semifinals&quot; imo<br />[/quote]<br /><br />They are both.', 'xx', 1);
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	(7582, 731, 22, 1348163187, 19, 7582, 'Re: Season 12 / Summer 2012 - MASTERBOWL XII - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '184.1.245.86', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=ThatsJustPrime link=topic=731.msg7580#msg7580 date=1348070875]<br />(not to mention oda&#039;s unlagged thing makes him impossible to hit reliably)<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Fixed it.<br /><br />haven&#039;t seen the teams play enough to make a good prediction on the outcome, so i wont do it, but im pulling for sxp. gl bones.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8540, 846, 29, 1361772128, 216, 8540, 'Re: March ''13 Open Tournament', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '70.26.80.141', 1, 0, '', 'Name: PrimeJustThats<br />Location:Canadia<br />Contact: IRC<br />Regular Avail: Evenings<br />Misc: why not, seems fun', 'xx', 1);
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	(293, 29, 2, 1219940979, 7, 294, 'Re: IDL MasterBowl IV', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.29.37', 1, 1219942131, 'Ladna', 'Awesome writeup Ralphis.&nbsp; TT port is 11022.&nbsp; GL both teams, I&#039;m anxiously awaiting some epic Masterbowl IV action!<br /><br />Oh, and I keep meaning to update the database to support the Conference homefields, so that Conference demo uploads work right.&nbsp; I&#039;ll probably fix it today/tonight.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6887, 670, 23, 1337878248, 2271, 6888, 'Re: Gray Division Results &amp; Demos', 'Dr. Sean', 'grandpachuck187@gmail.com', '174.34.213.235', 1, 1337879352, 'Dr. Sean', 'Dr. Sean Vs. Capodecima<br />maps eliminated: moo2d, d5m1<br /><br />Capo&#039;s pick: chill3<br />50-20, Capo = winner<br />screen: http://grandpachuck.org/files/odamex/mac2012/Odamex_DUEL_20120524_091132.bmp<br />demo: http://grandpachuck.org/files/odamex/mac2012/dr_sean_vs_capodecima_chill3.zip<br /><br />Dr. Sean&#039;s pick: exposed<br />50-28, Capo = winner<br />screen: http://grandpachuck.org/files/odamex/mac2012/Odamex_DUEL_20120524_091905.bmp<br />demo: http://grandpachuck.org/files/odamex/mac2012/dr_sean_vs_capodecima_exposed.zip<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(285, 26, 2, 1219708458, 19, 285, 'Re: IDL - A Look Ahead', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '12.159.3.116', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg283#msg283 date=1219704784]Pretty much the only admin who made decisions was Ralphis, I don&#039;t even know what&#039;s his status lately.&nbsp; Me and bones basically didn&#039;t decide anything but were around to discuss things.&nbsp; Ralphis isn&#039;t around enough, and no one else ATM seems willing to make any big decisions likely because Ralphis isn&#039;t going to support them(at least that is how I felt).[/quote]<br /><br />If you mean that people don&#039;t want to help because Ralphis isn&#039;t going to back them up, then that seems rather ridiculous. I don&#039;t think people are being involved, period. There have been public discussions of things in #idl many times and very few have put forth suggestions or ideas to help improve the league for various situations and scenarios. I&#039;d like to hear more about this, though.&nbsp;<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg283#msg283 date=1219704784]I can bring up quite a few specific examples but I&#039;ll just touch on one at the end of the season which I brought to many people&#039;s attention(admins) but was ignored over and over.&nbsp; Beast didn&#039;t submit his demos before he played us in week 9 and AFAIK Blood was supposed to sit a round.&nbsp; Blood never submitted his Week 9 demo so what would have happened if he showed up for playoffs?&nbsp; Who knows.&nbsp; All I know is I followed the rules and had to suffer consequences and other players ignored them in total without anyone giving a fuck.&nbsp; And why do I have to record demos?&nbsp; To accommodate people we were suspicious about since they have shady histories(?).&nbsp; Stuff like that makes me disgusted with the IDL.[/quote]<br /><br />Oh, the demo infraction situation. Well, keep in mind that this is still a relatively new system that was only just put in place with infraction penalties, of which Ladna has mostly been keeping track of. Here&#039;s the thing, though. When you got 9 players who haven&#039;t submitted their demos, and the sole person in charge has stuff to take care of (Face it, not even I am around IRC 24/7) not everyone can be persistently bugged to upload their demos, despite a very easy system put into place in which you can upload the demos. It hardly is any bother to you to autorecord and simply upload the zdo to the website. It should be a non-issue. If you noticed this being a problem before, did you bring it up to an admin before the game went down? If you did not, you shouldn&#039;t be disgusted with the IDL. Everyone makes mistakes, and it&#039;s up to everyone, not just the admins, to help correct them and prevent them in the future.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg283#msg283 date=1219704784]Ladna I&#039;m happy you think the IDL is great, I think it has a lot of things that could be changed or at least attempted to be fixed.&nbsp; Anyhow if everyone likes how the IDL is, that&#039;s fine.&nbsp; To me a lot of things are not good enough.&nbsp; Unfair matches aren&#039;t good enough for me when we don&#039;t have to have them.&nbsp; Demo rules which punish innocent players to let suspicious players play is not good enough.&nbsp; Our team playing fair 2v2s then other teams not reciprocating, is not good enough.&nbsp; Rules only being followed sometimes is not good enough.&nbsp; &nbsp;Captains refusing to talk to me to schedule or ignoring me is not good enough.&nbsp; Teams treating their worse player like they don&#039;t exist is not good enough.&nbsp; Our team having to wait beyond our scheduled time, while other teams practice for the first time of the week on late Sunday night, is not good enough.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />So how would you fix these issues? This topic isn&#039;t for just listing out issues, but also talking about and discussion [b]how[/b] to fix them, not state that they need to be fixed. That is obvious. :P', 'xx', 1);
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	(6602, 638, 21, 1333224337, 8, 6667, 'The IDL-R Spring 2012 Season', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@intldoomleague.org', '108.207.0.195', 1, 1334532269, 'HumanBones', 'With the latest IDL season coming to a close, there is much to be done in preparation for the next season. One of the things we&#039;ll be doing is a 4 week IDL-R season. In case you don&#039;t know what the IDL-R is, it has taken many forms over the past few seasons but it is all about giving playtime to those players who didn&#039;t get their shot during the regular season. I&#039;ve decided to make this one a bit more structured, complete with an invite list and a draft of it&#039;s own. So let&#039;s get to it, then!<br /><br />[b]Who is eligible?[/b] <br />Anyone who was drafted in the second half of the draft this past season (picks 19-36), as well as Winter 2012 free agents and anyone who is new or otherwise unknown to the IDL. Eligibility will be at the league&#039;s discretion. <br /><br />[b]Structure[/b]<br />The IDL-R league will consist of 4 teams, each team equipped with a captain and 3 drafted players. The season will be 4 weeks long (including a Championship round) where each team will play each other once. The top two teams will go on to the Championship round. In the event that all teams go 1-1-1, well.. we&#039;ll call it a good try :)<br /><br />[b]Captains[/b]<br />The captains were selected from the group of players who are eligible to participate, and are all looking forward to drafting some fun teams. Our captains are:<br /><br />[b]MassVC[/b] of the [b]Gotcha! City Goofballs[/b]<br />[b]Legion[/b] of [b]Boxers and Dooming[/b]<br />[b]SoulSucka[/b] of the [b]Chaingun Rangers[/b]<br />[b]Dew[/b] of the [b]Moon Dolphins[/b]<br /><br />[b]Schedule[/b]<br />As I mentioned, there will be 4 weeks. The maplist is as follows:<br /><br />Week 1 (April 9th - April 15th): ZDCTF MAP04 (Map04)<br />Week 2 (April 16th - April 22nd): ZDCTF MAP15 (Map15)<br />Week 3 (April 23rd - April 29th): ZDECTF2 MAP01 (Map20)<br />Championship (April 30th - May 6th) : IDLCONTEST MAP21 (Map10)<br /><br />Please check the thread containing the [url=http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?topic=639.0]invite list[/url] to see if you are eligible. If you think you are and you aren&#039;t on the list, let me know. It will also act as a signup thread for anyone looking to get into the IDL for the first time.<br /><br />The IDL-R Draft will be held on [b]Friday, April 6th @ 8pm EST.[/b]', 'xx', 1);
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	(287, 26, 2, 1219772509, 7, 287, 'Re: IDL - A Look Ahead', 'Ladna', 'doomedladna@yahoo.com', '128.255.29.37', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg283#msg283 date=1219704784]<br />I can bring up quite a few specific examples but I&#039;ll just touch on one at the end of the season which I brought to many people&#039;s attention(admins) but was ignored over and over.&nbsp; Beast didn&#039;t submit his demos before he played us in week 9 and AFAIK Blood was supposed to sit a round.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I spammed Beast and Tai in #idl that he needed to upload his demo, and I got no response.&nbsp; I saw him playing in that game even though he hadn&#039;t uploaded his demo, but I also knew you were opposed to the demo rule in the first place and I figured you just decided to let it go.&nbsp; Honestly, if you knew he didn&#039;t upload his demo and you weren&#039;t OK with that, you shouldn&#039;t have let him play.&nbsp; You&#039;re an admin and you&#039;re captain of the opposing team. He had it (he uploaded it later), so it wasn&#039;t a huge deal, but I really feel like there&#039;s a lot of responsibility on the captains to make sure they&#039;re not being taken advantage of.&nbsp; There&#039;s always a post in new weeks of who still needs to upload demos, but more importantly, I&#039;m not going to bust into servers and kick people who haven&#039;t uploaded demos in the middle of games.&nbsp; Then again, maybe an admin needs to be present for every game to make sure stuff like this doesn&#039;t happen.&nbsp; This might be feasible if scheduling is fixed.<br /><br />Bloodstrike&#039;s situation is kind of convoluted.&nbsp; He played Week 2, but didn&#039;t show up for Week 3 and hadn&#039;t uploaded a demo.&nbsp; We viewed this as not uploading a demo, and sitting out a round... even if he sat out the whole match.&nbsp; He also didn&#039;t make it for Week 4, so there&#039;s no missing demos there.&nbsp; Week 5 he played, and didn&#039;t upload a demo.&nbsp; Week 6 he showed up in server where Ralphis and I hassled him about not uploading his Week 5 demo.&nbsp; He promised he had it, Tai agreed to overturn the match if Bloodstrike couldn&#039;t produce the Week 5 demo.&nbsp; Week 6 was played, and Bloodstrike didn&#039;t upload any demo, neither Week 5 nor Week 6.&nbsp; I talked it over with Ralphis, and we agreed to eject Bloodstrike from the league (because this would be the 3rd demo infraction) and overturn FFF&#039;s Week 6 win.&nbsp; I informed FFF of all of this, and Tai was extremely cool about the whole thing.&nbsp; Bloodstrike hears that he&#039;s been ejected and suddenly starts uploading demos.&nbsp; We decide it&#039;s more beneficial to the league if Bloodstrike can possibly stay on FFF, so we accept them, and reinstate him.&nbsp; Unfortunately, Bloodstrike&#039;s demoing wasn&#039;t working properly, and all of his demos were corrupt (he&#039;d uploaded Week 2, 5 and 6).&nbsp; We made a good faith gesture (again, because we felt it was more beneficial to the league that he stay on FFF) and allowed him to stay on FFF, but we still overturned the Week 6 game and he would have to sit Week 8 (FFF had a BYE on Week 7).&nbsp; Bloodstrike either sat or didn&#039;t show up for Week 8, and played Week 9.<br /><br />Now I agree that none of this was made clear, but no one asked me either.&nbsp; Since it was brought up, I answered it.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg283#msg283 date=1219704784]<br />Blood never submitted his Week 9 demo so what would have happened if he showed up for playoffs?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />We generally have the cutoff for uploading demos as &quot;before the next game&quot;.&nbsp; If your team plays a game and you haven&#039;t uploaded a demo... even if you yourself don&#039;t play that game, the time is passed.&nbsp; As far as I&#039;m concerned, as soon as FFF vs. MAD happened, Bloodstrike was ejected from the league.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg283#msg283 date=1219704784]<br />And why do I have to record demos?&nbsp; To accommodate people we were suspicious about since they have shady histories(?).&nbsp; Stuff like that makes me disgusted with the IDL.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />You specifically (and this applies to everyone) have to record demos because it&#039;s better than treating a handful of IDL players as pariahs.&nbsp; I try to watch every POV demo, I don&#039;t always get it done.&nbsp; I [b]DO[/b] have a list of players I keep an eye on (and I would think other people do too) because I&#039;m suspicious of them, but demos aren&#039;t just for players we&#039;re suspicious of.&nbsp; For instance, when BBS played RNB, I had the flag in RNB&#039;s flag room and was waiting where the Green armor spawns.&nbsp; Gilgamesh ran right over and shot me, and at the time I thought, &quot;there is no fucking way he could see me, what the hell?&quot;.&nbsp; But, when I watched his demo, there&#039;s a glitch on Map26 where you can see the flag through that thing.&nbsp; That&#039;s how he saw me.&nbsp; Now, I&#039;m not suspicious of Gilgamesh, I think he&#039;s a clean player and a good dude.&nbsp; But after that, if I hadn&#039;t had the opportunity to watch his demo (without accusing him of cheating and demanding one... generally causing a lot of drama), I would have been suspicious of him.&nbsp; Demos are as much about finding cheaters as they are about proving clean play and keeping suspicion out of the league.&nbsp; Hell, they&#039;re even useful as records of games, and scouting for future seasons.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg283#msg283 date=1219704784]<br />Unfair matches aren&#039;t good enough for me when we don&#039;t have to have them.&nbsp; Demo rules which punish innocent players to let suspicious players play is not good enough.&nbsp; Our team playing fair 2v2s then other teams not reciprocating, is not good enough.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Yeah, it&#039;s lame that ZD bugged on you and you had to sit a round against WAD.&nbsp; But Nostar had no obligation to make one of his players sit because GaX was on Mars and your client bugged.&nbsp; It wouldn&#039;t have been fair to WAD, and his obligation as captain isn&#039;t to RNB, it&#039;s to his own team.&nbsp; In other sports, when a team is penalized, the league doesn&#039;t penalize the opposing team to make things &quot;fair&quot;.&nbsp; When a team is forced to play with an injured player (GaX &amp; his ***), the league doesn&#039;t force the opposing team to cut its roster down.&nbsp; Sometimes bad shit happens to players and teams, but it&#039;s not the league&#039;s responsibility to make things equally bad for the opposing team so that things are &quot;fair&quot;.&nbsp; And you can say all you want about IDL not being a real sport, but it&#039;s at least a competitive gaming league, and the parallels are the same.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg283#msg283 date=1219704784]<br />Rules only being followed sometimes is not good enough.&nbsp; &nbsp;Captains refusing to talk to me to schedule or ignoring me is not good enough.&nbsp; Teams treating their worse player like they don&#039;t exist is not good enough.&nbsp; Our team having to wait beyond our scheduled time, while other teams practice for the first time of the week on late Sunday night, is not good enough.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Scheduling is still a fuck-up, I agree.&nbsp; Hopefully we can figure it out.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg286#msg286 date=1219709695]<br />There are also lots of issues where captains are in charge of decisions but admins let them make bad decisions repeatedly.&nbsp; Many teams are allowed to languish with only 3 active players just because their captain for whatever reason doesn&#039;t show interest in picking another player.&nbsp; I think in situations like that the rules or admins should step in as it helps the league to have more solid teams and more players.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I kinda agree, one of the worst things that can happen to IDL is a captain totally unbalancing teams with bad drafts/trades, etc.&nbsp; I think combined with some kind of attendance policy you&#039;d see a lot of this stuff go away.&nbsp; You wouldn&#039;t have teams putting up with unreliable players, and you wouldn&#039;t have players signing up, then disappearing if they don&#039;t get on the team they want.&nbsp; I think you have to walk a fine line between keeping the league strong, and backseat-captaining... otherwise you might see some captains quit.&nbsp; But overall I like the idea.&nbsp; This could extend to some kind of arbitration if an unbalanced game is about to happen, admins could decide whether a 2v2 is more or less fair than a 3v2 for instance.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg286#msg286 date=1219709695]<br />Yes, I pm&#039;d quite a few people about it(and the #idlops chan).&nbsp; I&#039;m an admin too but I&#039;m not going to force an issue like that in a game I&#039;m playing in, it&#039;s not right.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />That&#039;s an interesting point about conflict of interest... and I think the only way to resolve that is to make sure there&#039;s more than 1 available admin.&nbsp; Of course, I think this would be easier if games are scheduled properly, admins could see when they&#039;re needed and maybe be on an hour before &amp; after.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg286#msg286 date=1219709695]<br />It seems no one cares enough to fix it.&nbsp; The fact it&#039;s all accepted just because it happens over and over is the current situation.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Yeah, I think Tenchu fed me that line Week 1 when there was a dispute about our game.&nbsp; &quot;Come on man, in other seasons lots of games were played at 2am&quot;.&nbsp; Doesn&#039;t make it any less gay.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg286#msg286 date=1219709695]<br />I&#039;ve suggested various fixes from stuff like forced scheduling to changed rules.&nbsp; Perhaps some code&#039;s of conduct, stricter scheduling that is actually enforced, it&#039;s not rocket science.&nbsp; Honestly at this point I do want everything fixed but at the same time I&#039;m almost certainly going to sit out next season and just see what happens.&nbsp; In the end it&#039;s up the players and captains...<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I think forced scheduling is a good idea, even if it requires more admin involvement.&nbsp; There&#039;s probably something we can work out so every game scheduling doesn&#039;t require an admin watching over the whole thing... like posting possible game times on the forums and agreeing on the forums.&nbsp; Maybe part of the problem is a lot of this stuff happens on IRC and isn&#039;t logged... so there&#039;s no public review and there&#039;s no record.&nbsp; It is a little irritating that teams can&#039;t seem to schedule games consistently and fairly (there WERE lots of teams that did really well with scheduling, btw), but I guess we have to assume there&#039;s going to be snafus along the way.&nbsp; We could even designate say... Thursdays and Sundays (or Saturdays...?) as IDL Game Days.&nbsp; Just throwing stuff out there.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=26.msg283#msg283 date=1219704784]<br />Ladna I&#039;m happy you think the IDL is great, I think it has a lot of things that could be changed or at least attempted to be fixed.&nbsp; Anyhow if everyone likes how the IDL is, that&#039;s fine.&nbsp; To me a lot of things are not good enough.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I do think the IDL is great, but I get also pretty frustrated with things like you do.&nbsp; There are lots of things to discuss and work out (the captaining system, map choice, unbalanced teams, scheduling, and so on), maybe we should wait until after the masterbowl (after the first couple weeks of classes) to have it out.', 'xx', 1);
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	(288, 26, 2, 1219865514, 2, 288, 'Re: IDL - A Look Ahead', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '97.113.108.5', 1, 0, '', 'Although I understand the rules could be changed to make things more competitive, I still see almost all the problems as starting with the players.&nbsp; I know its too much to ask that everybody upload their demos on time, even if it takes about 30 seconds, but I personally have had very few problems with the league.&nbsp; My worst problem was with Tenchu, not necessarily even with him, but because his captaining was poor, he made bad picks and even somehow got Redshirt to quit the team in week8.<br /><br />Maybe I am confused, but if you are active, upload your demos, and don&#039;t be a dick about scheduling, what are the other issues?&nbsp; If everybody did this, would the admins have to change anything at all?', 'xx', 1);
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	(289, 29, 2, 1219869082, 10, 294, 'IDL MasterBowl IV', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '216.15.110.27', 1, 1219941010, 'Ladna', '[center][b][size=16pt]Servers for MasterBowl IV[/size][/b][/center]<br /><br />[center][b][color=blue][Your IDL S2008 IDC Champions [u]Reign In Blood[/u]][/color] vs [color=red][Your IDL S2008 WDC Champions [u]Deep Thrusts][/u][/color] [/b]<br />Red Nexus - 64.20.34.226:10102<br />TotalTrash - 69.64.49.142:11022<br />Password=seasonfour<br /><br />Post predictions, arrangements, and results here.<br /><br />[b]CAPTAINS, MAKE ARRANGEMENTS AND POST THE AGREED GAME TIME IN THIS THREAD.[/b][/center]<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />Here we are at the final game of the Summer 2008 season, the MasterBowl. Here are some fun facts about MasterBowl IV. MasterBowl IV is the [b]55th[/b] and final game of the Summer 2008 season and the [b]208th[/b] IDL game of all time.<br /><br />Both opponents in the MasterBowl are worthy of the spots that they&#039;ve earned and are sure to bring their A-games when the MasterBowl IV goes down. Let&#039;s take a quick look at both teams.<br /><br />[center][size=14pt][b][color=blue]REIGN IN BLOOD[/color][/b][/size][/center]<br /><br />Representing the IDC, [color=blue][b]Reign In Blood[/b][/color] was THE force to be reckoned with in the IDC. Of the 7 games played in within their conference, RNB lost zero games and tied once against divisional rivals [b]Mass Destruction[/b]. Their only loss came in their week 7 bout against interconference WDC opponent, [b]We&#039;re All Doomed[/b]. <br /><br />In the regular season, their offense lead their conference in total flags captured (53) and flags captured per round (2.944) while their defense lead the entire league in total flags against (17), flags captured against per round (0.944). In terms of frags, RNB lead the league in total frags (1876) and were the only team to have scored an average of over 100 frags per round (104.222). <br /><br />In the playoffs, RNB dominated their competition with homefield advantage playing only five rounds and losing none of them. In the Wildcard round, RNB faced [b]Cereal Killers[/b] in a two-round blowout limiting CRK to only 1 flag (R1: 4-1 | R2: 5-0).<br /><br />In the Conference Championship round, RNB faced [b]Frag Fags &amp; Flag[/b] in another dominating performance that lasted three rounds. RNB and FFF shut out round 1 5-0, tied round 2 1-1, and finished FFF&#039;s season off in round 3 3-1 (R1: 5-0 | R2: 1-1 | R3: 3-1).<br /><br />RNB&#039;s roster consists of four players, one a reigning MasterBowl champion and two elected All-Star players. <br /><br />Fastidious, RNB&#039;s captain, lead RNB to MasterBowl IV with a .813 (6-1-1) record which is tied for best win PCT to ever make it to the MasterBowl (tied with Winter 2008&#039;s MasterBowl III Champions [b]The Best Around[/b]). Using informed and clever moves in the pre-season draft, Fastidious managed to lock up MasterBowl III MVP Whiteboy in round one of the draft while practically stealing Gilgamesh late in round two. In round three, Fastidious secured a solid third rounder with GaX who contributed to four RNB wins through the regular season. As a player, Fastidious lead the league in frags per round (43.286) and ssg frags per round (40.00). He also followed right behind teammate Gilgamesh for frag ratios (1.371 - 4th overall in league).<br /><br />Whiteboy could be considered RNB&#039;s star player with an impressive league resume. Leading the league with 27 total flag caps in the regular season, Whiteboy was elected to the IDC All-Star lineup this season. With this game, Whiteboy has the opportunity to not only be the first IDL player to not only win two MasterBowls (TBA W2008) but to win them consecutively. He also has the opportunity to be crowned IDL MasterBowl MVP for the second season in a row. He captured 27 of the league&#039;s 532 total flags during the regular season, 5% of the league&#039;s scored flags.<br /><br />Gilgamesh is a defensive juggernaut that has helped propel RNB to the MasterBowl in his rookie season. Drafted late in round two, Gilgamesh leads the league in SSG frag ratios (1.535), has an impressive frag ratio of (1.396 - 3rd overall in league), and even found a way to capture 11 of RNB&#039;s 53 flags (approx. 21% of flags capped for the team). Gilgamesh was the only rookie to be elected to either of the All-Star teams.<br /><br />GaX, RNB&#039;s third round draft pick helped push RNB forward into the playoffs contributing to four wins in his IDL rookie season. Though GaX did not lead the league in any fields, his efforts were instrumental in making RNB a successful team.<br /><br />[center][size=14pt][b][color=red]DEEP THRUSTS[/color][/b][/size][/center]<br /><br />Representing the WDC, [color=red][b]Deep Thrusts[/b][/color] was not quite as dominant as their MasterBowl opponents. In the regular season, they lost all three games to WDC East opponents [b]We&#039;re All Doomed[/b], [b]ContraBanned[/b], and [b]The Cookie Monsters[/b]. However, they dominated their division winning all four games over [b]Lords of Nigeria[/b] and [b]Cupid Stunts[/b] as well as winning their inter-conference game over IDC South divisional champs [b]Frag Fags &amp; Flag[/b]. After banking RNB&#039;s mid-season pick early in the season, DPT orchestrated an instrumental trade with the [b]Cereal Killers[/b] that saw DPT giving away second round pick Caller and RNB&#039;s mid-season pick for midian. DPT sends one player to the WDC All-Star team.<br /><br />In the regular season, their offense was ranked fifth in the league in total frags (46) and fourth in flag captures per round (2.706) while their defense ranked fourth in flags against (34) and fifth in flags against per round (2.000). In terms of frags, DPT ranked a mere eighth in both total frags (1197) and frags per round (70.412).<br /><br />Despite their considerably lackluster stats compared to the rest of their WDC East opponents, DPT found a way to not only win their playoffs games and capture the WDC Championship, but also now shares the record for longest game ever played as well as most rounds played in the playoffs total. So far, DPT has played 9 rounds (Wildcard: 4 rounds | WDC Conf. Champ: 5 rounds). Their MasterBowl IV opponent RNB has only played 5 rounds for contrast.<br /><br />In the wildcard round, DPT faced [b]ContraBanned[/b] as a statistical underdog but secured homefield advantage in this game by winning their division. DPT pulled out an impressive win in one of the greatest spectacles of the season with a winning score in the final four seconds of double overtime. (R1: 2-3 | R2: 5-1 | R3: 2-2 | R4: 2-1)<br /><br />In the Conference Championship round, DPT faced [b]We&#039;re All Doomed[/b] two weeks after WAD defeated DPT in two rounds on map04. Prior to this game, WAD faced TCM in the wildcard round which lead to the longest game ever to be played in the IDL at 5 rounds, 50 minutes. DPT would tie that record in this game with WAD against at 50 minutes, though turning the tables and securing a victory over the dominant WDC East Divisional Champions and #1 ranked team in the league (R1: 0-0 | R2: 2-0 | R3: 1-0 | R4: 0-0 | R5: 2-0).<br /><br />DPT&#039;s roster consists of four players, one which has reached the MasterBowl before and one elected All-Star player. <br /><br />Envy, DPT&#039;s captain, lead DPT to MasterBowl IV with a .625 (5-3-0) record, 4th best in the league. Envy is no stranger to making critical moves during the season. In Winter 2008, Envy, leading the [b]Virgin Roster[/b], locked up HumanBones in the mid-season draft helping lead them to over the undefeated [b]Pak Attack[/b] and to the MasterBowl III. This season, Envy secured Midian during the regular season. With Midian allowing DPT room to breathe offensively, Envy&#039;s decisions have gotten him back to the MasterBowl again. However, he is looking for the similarities to end there between his seasons and is looking to join the other three MasterBowl captains in history.<br /><br />Without a doubt, one of the hottest players in the league right now is Oath. One flag short of tying Whiteboy for total flags caps in the season (26), Oath has had a breakout season accounting for over 50% of caps for DPT this season. He ranks fifth in the league for flag capture ratio (0.220). Oath had perhaps one of the most heroic saves of the season during the WDC Conference Championship when he made a save moments before WAD made a capture, saving not only the game but DPT&#039;s season. Oath then went on to run in the final flags to take DPT to the MasterBowl. Oath was the only player from the WDC West voted into the All-Star game.<br /><br />Midian was drafted onto CRK as third overall draft of the season. After some discussions during the season, Midian was traded to DPT and revived DPT&#039;s season as they went on a five game winning streak all the way to week 9. In the playoffs, Midian was crucial in the WDC Conference Championship game, saving numerous flags against and preventing the #1 offense in the league from scoring all but one flag in 50 minutes. Midian is ranked third in the league for flags per round (38.538) and can be considered a premier defender.<br /><br />Rexn0r, DPT&#039;s third round pick, is a league veteran that has contributed continuously to DPT. Though Rexn0r has only played in a handful of DPT&#039;s games throughout the season, in those games he boasted an impressive frag ratio, ranking fifth in the league (1.321). Rexn0r has stated that though he doesn&#039;t play in many of DPT&#039;s games, he is there to support his team and do whatever is required of them to win. Rexn0r is a true team player and one of the best teammates anyone in the league could ask for.<br /><br />[center][size=14pt][b]SO WHO WILL WIN?[/b][/size][/center]<br /><br />Who do you think will pull it out in MasterBowl IV? Post your predictions below!', 'exclamation', 1);
