[quote author=Legion_ link=topic=762.msg7869#msg7869 date=1354667895]<br />if they don&#039;t have the incentive to play they should probably establish that they don&#039;t like playing doom anymore rather than incessant nitpicking on a doom port<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I debated posting, since I&#039;m one of the tired out blowhards Ralph was talking about and kind of stopped participating in IDL long ago. But, I&#039;ll speak for myself. I think the IDL was and still is a great idea and Odamex is a significant step forward in honoring community-driven competition and advancements in source port mechanics in general. It&#039;s great to see IDL and Odamex still thrive after the test drive on the port last season.<br /><br />There really shouldn&#039;t be the same group of people every season and it&#039;s proving to be the case that many well-known players in the IDL seem to be moving on as the league progresses. This isn&#039;t a bad thing since plenty of players have interest in IDL from communities like Zandronum&#039;s. Perhaps there should be more friendly focus on trying to bring those players in and train them up?<br /><br />Regardless of the reasoning, Legion, IDL survives and probably will continue to with Ralphis and HumanBones at the helm.<br /><br />I think 10~ years of Doom multiplayer is a good run for me. I didn&#039;t think when I was 10 years old that I&#039;d have still been playing it when I was 22. But I don&#039;t regret it. A lot of fun to be had, a lot of memories. I&#039;m just having a lot more fun playing casual modern shooters these days. I&#039;ve said before that my scheduling with my current occupation is keeping me from playing in any league, and while that is true, Doom doesn&#039;t hold the same luster as it used to. I don&#039;t even bother playing in priv or coop anymore, so it&#039;s not really IDL or Odamex. Sorry! Best wishes for this season, tho.