[quote author=RustInPeace link=topic=507.msg4850#msg4850 date=1317615996]<br />[quote=hatred]While ST generally doesn&#039;t produce a lot of high quality players, there is the exception with guys like Jenova.[/quote]<br />Jenova started off in ZD before Raider disposed of him. Your point is null.[/quote]<br />you mean before he got banned for cheating.