[quote author=MassVC link=topic=528.msg5320#msg5320 date=1321034623]<br /> I will blow right past your strawman and say that my intention isn&#039;t to deflate your huge inflatable ego and trash your decade of prestigious DOOM endeavors.&nbsp; I think you&#039;re just as brilliant and sensitive as you do...<br /><br />My point is that there just is no logic as to whether Map09 should be included in the wad.&nbsp; All of your brains and experience have nothing to do with it.&nbsp; It&#039;s a brute matter of opinion, and nobody&#039;s opinion carries more weight than anybody else&#039;s, not even yours or Hatred&#039;s, except that Hatred is going to be affected by the outcome of the decision, and you are not.<br /><br />And any faux-reasoning to the tune of, &quot;Map31 shouldn&#039;t be included in the wad because it gives Tai a free ticket to the MB,&quot; or even, &quot;Map31 shouldn&#039;t be included in the wad because it is a stupid grind and it&#039;s stupid,&quot; whether it come from players or PWAPITS, should be trumped with the fact that most players like Map31 and want it in the wad (or, counterfactually, that they don&#039;t and it shouldn&#039;t).&nbsp; In fact, the faux-reasoning here is what seems Jafarish to me.<br /><br />Now let me turn right around and say that I only mean this for issues which are purely matters of opinion, like team-naming or map-inclusion.&nbsp; In a video-game league, pretty much all issues are like this because the only goal is to have fun, and most people know what will be fun for them.&nbsp; It is possible, however, that some issues (such as the draft?) involve more logic and reasoning, where skills like yours and mine can start to come into play.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />That&#039;s valid reasoning! I would like to state that for matters of pure opinion, like team names, the poll method is a great idea to give weighted value in actual board votes where the outcome is decided FOR REALZ. It gives a look at what a large sample size of people think/want and it can and should factor into board votes on matters that don&#039;t affect important parts of the game, such as maps or draft changes, etc.<br /><br />I want to say about maps though...That for maps like map14 and map31, you can draw correlations between the two and see that they are similar in structure and flow in that they end up being pretty grindy. My method of voting for maps was to introduce maps that gave new structures and flows, if that makes any sense. Obviously this is just the way I would go about doing it, but the popularity of maps comes into factor too. And I&#039;m sure everyone votes differently, or would vote differently.<br /><br />It&#039;s true that those decisions in particular do not affect me so much as it does the players who will be playing, but when it comes down to it, I picture myself playing these maps, and even voted for ones (new and old) I do not in particular like, [i]because[/i] they presented something unique or new to the map pack used by the IDL, and introduces variety, which will test players of all skill levels. Both of those faux-reasoning examples are exactly the kind of thing I hoped everyone avoided when voting for maps.<br /><br />I support polls for the masses (introducing weighted opinion in board voting) and as unbiased voting amongst board members as can be achieved, so in essence I don&#039;t think anyone&#039;s opinion is discarded, as the league is open to everyone, not just 5 people.<br /><br />For issues like team names, with the poll being so close to being split down the middle, I imagine that with my method of voting, it will carry little weight in how I will vote for team names. Like anything else, it just comes down to an opinion.