[quote author=MassVC link=topic=528.msg5187#msg5187 date=1320438097]<br />I think non-players should not have a say in the IDL.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />See this is where I have the main disagreement.&nbsp; Let&#039;s just use Bones as an example, perhaps he doesn&#039;t play this season, but I don&#039;t see how that makes him a non-player, he&#039;s very involved with the IDL.&nbsp; Sure he isn&#039;t playing but Bones is definitely an &quot;IDL player&quot; he would just be sitting out a season.&nbsp; I&#039;m sure he&#039;d be back again sometime in the future.&nbsp; To label people &quot;non-players&quot; is to say they aren&#039;t interested nor associated with the IDL or will not play in the future ever.&nbsp; I think the only people we should be labeling like that are people who don&#039;t know about the IDL, don&#039;t play priv, etc not guys who have played before or are somewhat involved in the community.&nbsp; It feels to me like you are trying to exclude people involved in our community just because they aren&#039;t playing in the current IDL season, that&#039;s wrong, we should always keep a seat for them ready whenever they want to come back.&nbsp; People have other things in their lives than IDL and we shouldn&#039;t punish people who get disinterested or disappear for periods of time.&nbsp; It seems to happen to the vast majority of us.<br /><br />I do understand what you mean by non-player but I feel it&#039;s more a community or cultural issue.&nbsp; I&#039;ll always be interested and feel like a part of the IDL community even if I go live in Asia for 6 months before coming back.&nbsp; :D&nbsp; I just feel saying &quot;STFU you aren&#039;t playing this season&quot; is dumb and short sighted, especially when sometimes people saying it haven&#039;t played or done nearly as much as the people they are saying it to.&nbsp; Would you really ever tell Ralph he&#039;s a &quot;non-player&quot; and should &quot;STFU&quot; because he decides or is forced to sit out a season?&nbsp; It doesn&#039;t make any sense to me, most of us who have played a season or two and been involved in the community are deeply IDL players even if we aren&#039;t active in the current season.<br /><br />Ladna in the past I took part in some ridiculously long map play testing.&nbsp; I wasn&#039;t trying to flame the board because they didn&#039;t test maps I was just genuinely curious about it due to the blue armor surprise.