@Hatred<br /><br />I don&#039;t think it&#039;s exactly correct to say that the Oda Devs built the port around IDL. They added some features to iron out CFT and to make the IDL move from ZDaemon more easier. However, the goal of Oda is the same as it was on day 1: Vanilla Vanilla Vanilla.<br /><br />I think you need to clear up what you mean by &#039;playing stability&#039;. For me that refers to being able to stay in the damn server without crashing (fuck 108 forever). If you&#039;re referring to bugs that negatively affect gameplay, I&#039;ll agree that season 12 did have quirks during some matches and practices that simply ruined the experience. However, this season was quite smooth and the only instance that I observed first hand was the flag dropping into the lava sector on map25. It&#039;s been stated that it had something to do with the nodes.<br /><br />I feel as if I&#039;ve been repeating myself lately with regards to why moving to Zandronum would not be a good long term solution. For starters, Zan has a bad track record with CTF leagues and struggles with leagues in general. The port itself is not quite on par with the competitive ability of ZDaemon, although I know that the next release will be very solid in this aspect. Then there is the largest con of them all: the playerbase. It is safe to say that Zan regulars that have been responsible for bullshit of this season, along with previous seasons, have murdered any minute chance of the IDL moving to Zandronum. I think the best bet would be for Zan to develop it&#039;s own CTF league (which is what they are doing currently?). Honestly, you&#039;d have to pay people like Bones, Ralph, dewww, mike, LB, and myself along with other IDL contributors to manage a league on Zan. We all value what little sanity we have left and having to deal with the likes of dr.noob and other retards on a daily basis wouldn&#039;t be worth it anyway. Plus there&#039;s another factor most people haven&#039;t giving a though about: A possible clash between the Zan administration and the IDL administration. As I said before, the better path for Zan is to make it&#039;s own league from within.<br /><br />As for Oda, many players are out of the loop of what we have been addressing this entire year so far. One thing we&#039;ve completed was in response to some players claiming the SSG &#039;didn&#039;t kill&#039;. Turns out weapon damage was handled differently on ZDaemon (namely the NS weapon dmflag). We&#039;ve tested a new compat flag and it will probably be included in the next release. I must say however, I don&#039;t understand the flip-flopping. In the past there weren&#039;t any complaints and some even suggested nerfing the SSG. Yet, it&#039;s been confirmed by Sean that there were no changes made to the weapon behavior from beta .6 to now. It&#039;s all in your heads.<br /><br />Collision and the unlagged code have also been discussed to death in #idlb and somewhat on the forums. We&#039;ve been working hard with the devs to find an appropriate solution to these issues. Despite the vast amount of negativity from outsiders and some players, we&#039;re doing our best to move forward and address whatever complaints and other issues players have. The next release is going to make season 12 a bad memory.<br /><br />At the end of it all, we can only do so much and bend over backwards and inside out for so long. After all the long hours of work, if players still don&#039;t want to give Oda a try (which directly affects the IDL), then there&#039;s really nothing more that can be done. Quite honestly, after taking a look at the entire MP Community, it just appears that the competitive scene is on its way to becoming a thing of the past. You might actually be on to something when you say we should enjoy what we have while we still have it.