[quote author=AlexMax link=topic=483.msg4656#msg4656 date=1314721674]And for all the flexibility of getting in, getting out is simple...just fall into the ditch behind the flag stand and take the bar doors to mid.&nbsp; So really, it doesn&#039;t matter how stacked a defender is if someone can be in and out so easily.[/quote]<br /><br />Yeah, every time I left with flag I used the bar doors to mid but going in you can take your time and use whatever route has the least resistance.&nbsp; Hard for me to say what changes you should do but I think helping D but cutting a route or two might be the main thing.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think the map is too big it just has too many routes in almost every direction and the defender is open to attack from the grates as well even if no one can get the flag directly from there.