[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=536.msg5473#msg5473 date=1322599991]<br />Yes, a map where the entire mid is literally a huge uncrossable pit of instadeath lava save for a very very narrow passage (To name one thing) has a chance of being taken seriously, and additionally was included in the official IDL 2012 maplist to be played in priv and the league itself. You might have had a point if you picked some map in idl2012i.wad I could have instantly dismissed, rather than the worst map in all of the mapsets considered for inclusion in the IDL wad. Granted, map27 has a big pit you cannot escape out of, which I frown upon! Other maps might as well but none come to mind immediately and I don&#039;t feel like opening ZDaemon to further illustrate how dumb of an argument you&#039;ve made.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />It&#039;s a pretty valid point considering you didn&#039;t take his map seriously to begin with, let alone you probably have 0 serious playtime on it, which is the complete opposite situation of what me, Hate, Rust and others have proven for BP in priv. It would be different if we dicked around on BP when we saw the mid/ssg placement and just started critiquing the whole thing without giving it serious playtime. In fact, even with fasts&#039; fixes in the mid, you and many other people still didn&#039;t give it a chance, so how can you call my arguement dumb when you&#039;re implying that people should respect the maps when others and you personally disrespected someone elses map by not taking it seriously?<br /><br />Truthfully I would like to see your response to Hate and Rust (if any) since I know the only reason why you quoted me and ignored theirs is because my post is the easiest for you to respond to.