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	(4670, 494, 17, 1314950095, 7, 4670, 'Re: Booting out unwanted maps.', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '65.214.200.140', 1, 0, '', 'This is an interesting issue, but some of these arguments are really getting on my nerves.<br /><br />- This map sucks in PCTF<br /><br />PCTF isn&#039;t IDL.&nbsp; Until every PCTF game is 3v3, this really isn&#039;t a valid complaint.<br /><br />- I hate this map<br /><br />While no one wants to force shitty maps on anyone, it&#039;s extremely difficult to objectively say what makes a map shitty.&nbsp; We only recently got any stats on maps (thanks Fast!) and even those change over seasons as competitive play evolves.<br /><br />- It&#039;s impossible to score on this map<br /><br />So what?&nbsp; Some of the best IDL games have been tense, low-scoring games, and a lot of people agree with me.&nbsp; Sure they&#039;re not everyone&#039;s favorite, but IDL has a responsibility to incorporate maps that encourage all different types of play for two reasons:<br /><br />&nbsp; - It encourages mappers to explore different styles.<br />&nbsp; - It prevents one type of player from becoming dominant in IDL.<br /><br />This also applies to maps that are extremely difficult to defend (map13), maps that are weird (map32), etc. etc.<br /><br />- We need more space in the IDL WAD.<br /><br />AFAIK there&#039;s no limit on the number of maps in a WAD.&nbsp; What&#039;s really worse is the amount of junk needed in the WAD because all the maps are from lots of different WADs.&nbsp; But again that&#039;s just pain in the ass (although admittedly it&#039;s a big pain in the ass) for whoever compiles it, no one else cares.<br /><br />===<br /><br />Now for my soapboxing:<br /><br />You cannot remove maps that previously hosted Masterbowls from the IDL WAD.&nbsp; You also can&#039;t remove 1/4/8.&nbsp; So if we stick with 32 maps, that&#039;s 19 slots you have to work with.&nbsp; There&#039;s no reason maps can&#039;t come back, and there&#039;s no reason PCTF can&#039;t use some other WAD or whatever.&nbsp; ZDDL has 4 core maps and they vote the 5th one in every year.&nbsp; It&#039;s not like if we drop map11 from the list that we&#039;ll never see it again.&nbsp; The only thing we should really be religious about are Masterbowl maps and 1/4/8.&nbsp; Everything else should be up for grabs.<br /><br />Fastidious: Re: map13 vs. map16:<br /><br />You can&#039;t say maps are the same because they have soulspheres in them.&nbsp; Specifically map13 &amp; map16; these maps play so differently I have to wonder if you didn&#039;t contract a brutal brain parasite in Asia.<br /><br />map13 is a great map.&nbsp; Some players don&#039;t like it but they&#039;re bad at it, and they probably forget that it was both a Masterbowl map and host to probably the biggest upset of all time (VGR vs. PAK).&nbsp; Additionally it&#039;s not about item control hardly at all; you have very little opportunity to take your opponent&#039;s soulsphere &amp; megaarmor, so really it&#039;s about making the most of your own items (giving them to your runner), not about controlling them across the map.&nbsp; Additionally standoffs are actually fun in this map because of the lifts, gate &amp; teleporters.<br /><br />On the other hand, map16 is item control incarnate.&nbsp; There are two soulspheres, a megasphere, and two green armors; if you fail to control at least the megasphere you will get raped.&nbsp; It&#039;s also a map where a team that isn&#039;t SSG heavy can beat a super-frag team with teamwork and smart running.&nbsp; Yeah it turns into a shitfest 4v4 and up.&nbsp; Thankfully IDL is a 3v3 league, so no problem then.<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=494.msg4661#msg4661 date=1314810693]<br />One funny thing about Quake is I have no problem playing the same maps there forever but that&#039;s probably because Quake is a much deeper game skill wise than Doom.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Whoa.&nbsp; Just because Quake has shitty weapons and a hard-on for item whoring doesn&#039;t make it &quot;deeper&quot; than Doom.&nbsp; In fact, having been forced to watch a lot of Quake by Nostar &amp; mikehail, I feel confident when I say that Quake is:<br /><br />&nbsp; - Whore the megahealth<br />&nbsp; - Whore the armor<br />&nbsp; - Whore the weapons<br />&nbsp; - Whore the megahealth, armor, and weapons<br />&nbsp; - Don&#039;t forget to whore all the items, including the megahealth, armor, and weapons<br />&nbsp; - If you out-aim your opponent even by a tiny amount you win (forget about movement, prediction, or item whoring)<br />&nbsp; - If you&#039;re winning, run the fuck away<br /><br /> ::)<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(2190, 246, 1, 1281285015, 204, 2190, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'shadowman', 'jabsea@live.com', '99.191.42.221', 1, 0, '', 'Just a nobody here, and I don&#039;t take either side...just a couple of observations...<br /><br />ZDaemon is [i]undeniably[/i] the goose that lays your golden egg. Without them, you&#039;ll just die the same slow death that they are.<br /><br />Also, by pulling all the &#039;best&#039; players out of public CTF, you [i]undeniably[/i] put another nail in the already fading public CTF coffin, whether you all realize it or not. You should have implemented a league for all skill levels while ZD was booming and had the players to be interested. Now the newbies have dried up...<br /><br />And we all know what happens to game communities where the newbies dry up, don&#039;t we? How many serious competitive newbies do you see now interested in w/e game mode nowadays?&nbsp;  ;D<br /><br />ZD peaked several years ago. A new version of ZD, Doom4...w/e, will see a surge in interest again, but the golden years of this particular nostalgia niche are over. Enjoy your league while it lasts, imo, the writing is on the wall for both communities.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3524, 362, 14, 1297818139, 2, 3524, 'Re: W2011 IDL-R Free Agent - Trade History', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.42.5', 1, 0, '', 'Nazz was drafted up to the Spread Eagles in exchange for Mandolore.&nbsp; Mandolore is on waiver wire and will join the Bang Broncos on Monday if no IDL bids have been placed for him.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2180, 246, 1, 1281191143, 49, 2180, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '24.154.81.230', 1, 1281191790, 'Killingblair', 'FINALLY SOMEONE KNOWS HOW I FEEL<br /><br />let me explain:<br /><br />on rn, the player base was always complaining. always. never blamed their loss on skill, it was always the server/zdaemon/the peanut gallery. players did not care about how much effort was put into hosting the servers, they just believed it was their right to have a quality playing experience. they do not realize what type of work and skill is required to host a server.<br /><br />zdaemon initially supported rn, removing the server limit for its ip, under the nose of kilgore, for i am public zdaemon enemy #1 for DDOSING ZD FORUMS KILL BLAIR VOL 2<br /><br />however, zd admins is in a moral decline now. they don&#039;t listen to their players, they don&#039;t listen to server admins, they don&#039;t listen to anybody outside of their little circle. they do whats best in their personal interest, and that&#039;s all. I can see why ladnas upset, i would be too if i put that much time effort and raw skill into making tt into the greatest server set to date, but forgetting the trash bag and then having it shit on by everybody.<br /><br />at least now ladna can put more time into teaching jkist linux<br /><br />p.s. if this or ralphs post gets crossposted to zd forums kilgores gonna be like GET OUT OF HERE BEFORE I BREAK OUT THE ATOMIC ELBOW BROTHAH!!!<br />[img]http://img.webthrowdown.com/throwdowns/randy-macho-man-savage-420-2.jpg[/img]<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(2186, 246, 1, 1281224255, 130, 2186, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'ZD BACKUP POST:<br /><br />I hope a lot of this stuff happens. I really like the eagerness of people to put forth their ideas and hope the effort follows. I would say the track record of those posting is solid enough to merit some optimism. I&#039;m open to helping, so if you guys need resources pm me. I leave my irc on and I check it whenever I get a chance to sit down.<br /><br />[quote=&quot;Goatface&quot;]Threads need to stop being locked/erased.&nbsp; Open discussion is positive.[/quote]<br /><br />I believe what goat means is that the tendency up to this point is for moderators to to squelch any &quot;raw&quot; discussion unless it is in agreement or congress with those overseeing parties. And while a lot of this thread contains progressive and good ideas, the part 1 and totaltrash closing threads both brought up issues that NEED ADDRESS and were locked or deleted for doing so. Read my post and please keep in mind, I&#039;m posting things that would make doom a more fun place to play. It&#039;s in the same vein as a news page or a dev blog or how releases are handled. It&#039;s productive and I would ask that you let it stand. I do not, however, expect it. Call me a cynic.<br /><br />It&#039;s truly unfortunate that posts made in honesty and candor are being dismissed, and worse, erased. In keeping with the theme of the Yo Yo threads I offer up the idea of instating a newer and more active forum moderator. Maybe someone who plays in the American scene and has some idea of why the unrest exist, what is real discussion as opposed to trolling, and someone who can respond to the threads as opposed to locking and ignoring. Ignoring the player base is where this schism starts. We fucking like this game and we want to see it continue. Please stop calling us names, ignoring our posts and pretending we&#039;re not the reason you keep writing this software.<br /><br />I want to be clear,, I do appreciate what the developers do. I have paid my money to host and spent my time organizing competitive games and right now I&#039;m sitting here putting my ideas on these forums [b]for a very good reason[/b]. I put time and energy into making zdaemon a fun place and want it to continue to be. Use my idea, put a reasonably active forum mod on duty who can participate in the discussions instead of just snuffing them out. It will make people want to post here and want to challenge people here and it will stir up what we all want, activity.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2241, 248, 12, 1281766948, 15, 2241, 'Re: Co-MVPs', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.97.218', 1, 0, '', 'Although both Ralphis and Nostar are probably the some of the greatest players in the league.&nbsp; A league mvp is more than that.&nbsp; Should be chosen [much like what star said] for the importance of the players role is on their team.&nbsp; Also how well they&#039;ve done stats-wise.&nbsp; Players I would nominate for mvp are definitely Mike and Jenova.&nbsp; Simply because this is a CTF league, and you can&#039;t win games without the caps.... ', 'xx', 1);
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	(3117, 350, 14, 1293431618, 17, 3117, 'Re: W2011 Suicide League', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '98.228.219.91', 1, 0, '', 'KGB for Week1<br /><br />Because Im that batshit insane.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3523, 348, 14, 1297818056, 2, 3523, 'Re: W2011 Free Agents - Trade History - Waiver Wire', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.42.5', 1, 0, '', 'Mandolore was dropped from the Spread Eagles for Nazz, he will be on waiver wire until next Monday.&nbsp; Bids may be put in on him in a private message to me if interested, if not he will become a free agent Monday.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3793, 410, 14, 1300320489, 75, 3793, 'Re: Free wins....', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.180.128', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Solar_Flare link=topic=410.msg3791#msg3791 date=1300319922]<br />Then explain why you weren&#039;t in the IDL channel, you did explain everything else but that.<br />[/quote]<br />yeah star, we demand a time table of everything you did back then. i bet there are whole DAYS when you could&#039;ve been hanging in #idl and listening to morons brag.', 'xx', 1);
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	(7071, 686, 22, 1340233373, 8, 7071, 'Re: S2012 FREE AGENTS - TRADE HISTORY', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@intldoomleague.org', '208.54.32.129', 1, 0, '', '[b]Killing Browns[/b]<br />Traded Shogun to Free Agency in exchange for Capodecima (Pre-Season).', 'xx', 1);
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	(5337, 532, 17, 1321109209, 38, 5337, 'Re: A CTF Guide For The New Guys', 'Sabertooth', 'ssj4chazou@hotmail.com', '74.91.64.154', 1, 0, '', 'But if your runner is a weak player I think it would be smart to watch over him. We all know weak players can&#039;t use magic. <br /><br />Other than that I&#039;m with Ralphis on this. If I&#039;ve got the flag get the fuck away from me and I&#039;ll live longer.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4523, 483, 16, 1312845106, 17, 4553, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '69.245.157.115', 1, 1313213633, 'Mionic_D', 'http://www.speedyshare.com/files/29794637/GranBeta0809.wad<br />(5v5 / Beta version 1.3 Last Update 8/9/11)<br />http://www.speedyshare.com/files/29843417/GranBeta0812.wad<br />(3v3 / Beta version 2.1 Last Update 8/12/11)<br /><br />Name: Doomed Granary<br />Build Time: 29 hours over 5 days&nbsp; / 33 hours over 6 days<br />Basis: TF2 Map - Granary<br />Compat: Boom<br /><br /><br />I honestly did not know about this contest, so its kind of a big map.&nbsp; Made my official entry more 3v3 friendly.&nbsp; That is beta v2', 'xx', 1);
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	(7074, 684, 22, 1340244548, 216, 7074, 'Re: Draft Results Speculation Thread', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '70.26.81.28', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Sabertooth link=topic=684.msg7073#msg7073 date=1340243637]<br />[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=684.msg7072#msg7072 date=1340242548]<br />[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=684.msg7069#msg7069 date=1340226821]<br />[quote]ItalianStallion[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=684.msg7068#msg7068 date=1340226624]<br />Can&#039;t wait to get into the grind with my boy saber. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=684.msg7068#msg7068 date=1340226624]<br />b0yz 4 lyfe<br />[/quote]<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/I0kID.gif[/img]<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I LOVE IT<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I had no idea Shane was black.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Black one is stall obv...', 'xx', 1);
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	(4165, 443, 18, 1307635872, 69, 4165, 'Re: Week 1 (Jun 6 - Jun 12) : ZDCTF26 (MAP 26) - Discussion and Results', 'Goatface', 'roger.banango@gmail.com', '76.178.184.215', 1, 0, '', 'You forgot one.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4198, 448, 18, 1308715480, 163, 4198, 'Re: Week 3 (Jun 20 - Jun 26) : ZDCTF01: Fortress Collision - Discussion and Results', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.39.24.2', 1, 0, '', '[b]Demonic Colts[/b] v.s [b]DooM Raiders[/b]<br /><br />Certainly a tale of two different stories from where we last left these two last season. However, DMC is coming off of a somewhat surprising victory whereas DMR is coming off of a disappointing tie. Nautilus is solid, Saber is good and they&#039;re going to need their 3rd (whoever it may be) to play some big-time minutes of they want any sort of chance to win this. I can see DMC playing an extremely aggressive style here to keep the pressure on in an attempt to slow down LB/Coll, but I&#039;m not sure it&#039;ll work. The issue with DMC throughout this season is finding someone to defend as all 3 of their starters make decent runners/mid. If DMC can play well and DMR undervalues this squad, we could be in for a really close series here. And at the same time, the duo of LB and Coll haven&#039;t looked all that great (although they&#039;ve only realistically ran with each other for one week) this season but I think this could be the week they both have big-time games as a combo. I look for this to be a 2 round series with DMC possibly playing a tight round, possibly even both. But I don&#039;t see them winning.<br /><br />DMR wins 2-0<br /><br />[b]Sexual Panther&#039;s[/b] vs [b]Spread Eagles[/b]<br /><br />A match-up of two of the top three in the WDC takes place as SPE is reeling off of a dismal performance against BSK while SXP got on track last week with a victory over a stellar KGB squad. The Nosturi addition seems to give this SXP team more firepower but with Bones living in Cali and Blair being a pinger to TT with Nosturi&#039;s Euro ping, this could be a team prone to strong fragging teams. SPE hasn&#039;t shown me that&#039;s what they are yet, they haven&#039;t really shown much of anything in terms of an identity. This is a big match that will have play-off implications and I would argue SPE needs this more for the sake of confidence than SXP does, although neither squad wants to fall to 1-2 with BBC starting out fast at 2-0. I can see SPE doing just enough to get by but I&#039;ve got a feeling telling me Blair will have a big-time game. If that happens, with Bones/Nosturi playing stellar, this could get ugly. I still think it&#039;ll be a close series and could go either way but unless SPE figures out their coordination (or currently through the first two weeks, a lack thereof) they aren&#039;t going to win. So with that said, I&#039;ll take SXP as I see them being a little more well put together currently. <br /><br />SXP wins 2-1<br /><br />[b]Fnordy Niners[/b] vs [b]Flag Steelers[/b]<br /><br />KNF got a gem in week one when Blair decided he was too cool to show for SXP. Last week, their biggest problem was vastly exposed: their lacking ability to frag. While FLS isn&#039;t a great fragging team themselves, they&#039;ve got Chew who could literally outfrag the entire KNF squad himself. I honestly think FLS will pull this one off but Legion and Mando need to play better. Chew can&#039;t do it all, someone needs to step up. Even then, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s required as Chew could possibly carry FLS to a victory over KNF by himself. I think that&#039;s what will happen. <br /><br />FLS wins 2-0<br /><br />[b]Techno Vikings[/b] vs [b]Broke Back Cowboys[/b]<br /><br />After having a disappointing opener, Rus redeemed himself with a monster game week2. While the talk for the first 2 weeks has been about teams like DMR and SUC, BBC flies under the radar as the only 2-0 team in the IDL. Stall is a monster fragger and Prime is playing fairly well as an all-purpose guy with madv running. While I think BBC is better than people may realize, I just don&#039;t know if they have the firepower to score on the Rus/X-Ray combo. turSKA is one of the most unappreciated players in the IDL with his high level play and with an aggressive Rus push, I definitely see it giving Stall problems. I think he&#039;ll slow TKV down but I don&#039;t see BBC having the firepower to score on TKV very often, if at all. That&#039;s why I like TKV in 2.<br /><br />TKV wins 2-0.<br /><br />[b]SuperChargers[/b] vs [b]Berserker Packers[/b]<br /><br />I think I may go ahead and call this my upset special of the week if there is one. SUC on paper is one of the top teams in the IDL but with Ralph not always around to practice, they sometimes tend to look a little confused. Rust and Xen frag well enough to overcome that with Ralph&#039;s great running. BSK showed last week that they won&#039;t be anybodies push-over and stunned the Spread Eagles but they&#039;ll have a much more daunting task this week. Gilga is a decent defender and I think a map like the classic map01 style provides, is a map Gilga can excel in defensively as he likes to play a bit more aggressively and attack flag runners. However, Clim could be up-to-bat on defense as well making a unique approach to this match. If Gilga spends time in mid and stays aggressive, I can really see BSK pulling this off. I love what Rust can do but they have to get more practice in if they want to be the team they think they can be. If SUC is well practiced though, this one will be a landslide victory for them. But I don&#039;t think they will be so I&#039;ll call the upset here and say BSK wins 2-1.<br /><br />BSK wins 2-1. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(8875, 136, 1, 1365816728, 19, 8875, 'Re: It''s coming', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.53.242.178', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/3e95d99ef8fb1da16f0b3113a7ab4ded/tumblr_mk30dcRgxU1rjcfxro1_400.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3101, 352, 14, 1293214323, 2, 3117, 'ALERT: OFFICIAL WINTER 2011 IDL-R SCHEDULE RELEASE', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.57.203', 1, 1293448412, 'Ralphis', '[b]Week 1 - MAP07 ZDCTF07 ( JAN 3 THRU JAN 9 )[/b]<br />Bang Broncos v Tourettes Skins (DIV)<br />Hot Wax Bengals v Spreehawks (CONF)<br />Splash Damage Dolphins v Splatterday Saints (DIV)<br /><br />[b]Week 2 - MAP30 ZDUCTF30 ( JAN 10 THRU JAN 16 )[/b]<br />Bang Broncos v Splash Damage Dolphins (CONF)<br />Spreehawks v Splatterday Saints (DIV)<br />Tourettes Skins v Hot Wax Bengals (DIV)<br /><br />[b]Week 3 - MAP29 ZDECTF2-19 ( JAN 17 THRU JAN 23 )[/b]<br />Bang Broncos v Hot Wax Bengals (DIV)<br />Tourettes Skins v Spreehawks (CONF)<br />Splash Damage Dolphins v Splatterday Saints (DIV)<br /><br />[b]Week 4 - MAP12 THIRTY4-16 ( JAN 24 THRU JAN 30 )[/b]<br />Bang Broncos v Spreehawks (CONF)<br />Hot Wax Bengals v Splatterday Saints (CONF)<br />Tourettes Skins v Splash Damage Dolphins (CONF)<br /><br />[b]Week 5 - MAP31 THIRTY4-31 ( JAN 31 THRU FEB 6 )[/b]<br />Bang Broncos v Hot Wax Bengals (DIV)<br />Tourettes Skins v Splatterday Saints (CONF)<br />Spreehawks v Splash Damage Dolphins (DIV)<br /><br />[b]Week 6 - MAP20 ZDECTF2-01 ( FEB 7 THRU FEB 13 )[/b]<br />Bang Broncos v Tourettes Skins (DIV)<br />Hot Wax Bengals v Splash Damage Dolphins (CONF)<br />Spreehawks v Splatterday Saints (DIV)<br /><br />[b]Week 7 - MAP28 CHAOSCORE11 ( FEB 14 THRU FEB 20 )[/b]<br />Bang Broncos v Splatterday Saints (CONF)<br />Spreehawks v Splash Damage Dolphins (DIV)<br />Tourettes Skins v Hot Wax Bengals (DIV)<br /><br />[b]Wildcard Playoffs - ( FEB 21 THRU FEB 27)<br /><br />Conf. Championships - ( FEB 28 THRU MAR 6 )<br /><br />MiniBowl (?) - MAP26 ZDCTF26 ( MAR 7 THRU MAR 13 )[/b]<br /><br />Subject to change; shut up nostar.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3231, 371, 1, 1294874322, 3, 3231, 'Demo Playback - Incorrect Password', 'Joshsmith', 'tonihawker666@yahoo.com', '99.9.212.71', 1, 1294874421, 'Joshsmith', 'Well, since I don&#039;t have a ZDaemon forums account, and since this is related to the IDL anyway, I&#039;ll post this here.<br /><br />Apparently there is a bug in demo playback if you first join a server with an incorrect password, correct the password with &quot;password PASSWORD&quot;(PASSWORD being the correct server password), then reconnect by typing &quot;reconnect&quot;. Maybe this doesn&#039;t happen with every demo, but when I tried viewing our practice matches from yesterday, the demo seemed to hang at &quot;Incorrect Password&quot; and wouldn&#039;t play any further. I tried to hex edit the demo to bypass it haha, but I am not on Niv&#039;s level so that did nothing.<br /><br />Maybe this was a fluke, maybe the demo will magically play if I wait a bit longer, but I guess the moral of the story is to use the correct password the first time so there aren&#039;t any chances of botched IDL demos.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(3179, 362, 14, 1294522662, 2, 3523, 'W2011 IDL-R Free Agent - Trade History', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.36.217', 1, 1297818102, 'mikefails', '[center][size=20pt][b]IDL-R Free Agency[/b][/size]<br /><br />BrandonD451<br />Kurama<br />LordAtreyuDX<br />Reaver<br /><br />[b][size=18pt]Withdrawn/Dismissed[/size][/b]<br /><br />Acolyte (Dismissed; Chronic Absence)<br />Fleshwizard (Dismissed; Chronic Absence)<br />Junior (Dismissed; Chronic Absence)<br />Metalhead (Withdrew)<br />Propane (Withdrew)<br />Sandblaster (Dismissed; Chronic Absence)<br />Tenchu (Withdrew)<br />Whitemike (Dismissed; Chronic Absence)<br /><br />[b][size=18pt]WINTER 2011 TRADE HISTORY[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=16pt][color=purple]IDL-R[/color][/size][/b]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Bang Broncos (BBS)[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]Traded Devisin to the Spreehawks for Rexn0r (Week 1)[/li]<br />[li]Redshirt was drafted up to the Berserker Packers in exchange for Dawsonation (Week 2)[/li]<br />[li]Traded Dawsonation to Free Agency for Tobi (Week 2)[/li]<br />[li]Nazz was drafted up to the Spread Eagles in exchange for Mandolore (Week 6)[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Tourettes Skins (TS)[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]Acolyte, Fleshwizard have been Dismissed; Malignity and Nosturi drafted from Free Agency(Week 2)[/li]<br />[li]Traded Reaver to Free Agency for Fluffles (Week 3)[/li]<br />[li]Traded Fluffes to Free Agency for Treky (Week 5)[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Hot Wax Bengals (HWB)[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]Souler was drafted up to the Killing Browns in exchange for Goblin (Week 4)[/li]<br />[li]Tenchu withdrew from the league; Fluffles was picked as his replacement (Week 5)[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Splash Damage Dolphins (SDD)[/b]<br />[list]<br />[li]Roscoe was drafted up to the Electric Bills; Heavenwraith was drafted from Free Agency (Week 2)[/li]<br />[li]Traded Hydrasfire to Free Agency for Soulsucka (Week 2)[/li]<br />[li]Traded Soulsucka to Free Agency for Dawsonation (Week 3)[/li]<br />[li]Traded Treky to Free Agency for Hydrafire (Week 4)[/li]<br />[li]Traded Hydrafire to Free Agency for Firedragon (Week 5)[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Splatterday Saints (SDS)[/b]<br />[list]<br />[li]Traded Capodecima to the Spreehawks for Whitemike (Week 2)[/li]<br />[li]Traded Fluffles to Free Agency for Dannyboy (Week 3)[/li]<br />[li]Killforce was drafted up to the Flag Steelers in exchange for Beast (Week 4)[/li]<br />[li]Whitemike was dismissed from the league, Soulsucka was picked as his replacement (Week 4)[/li]<br />[li]Traded Beast to Free Agency for Godlike (Week 5)[/li]<br />[li]Propane withdrew from the league; Telo was picked as his replacement (Week 5)[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Spreehawks (SPH)[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]Beast was dismissed as coach of the Spreehawks due to inactivity; Nostar was unanimously selected as his replacement (Week 1)<br />[/li][li]Traded Rexn0r to the Bang Broncos for Devisin (Week 1)<br />[/li][li]Sandblaster was dismissed from the league, Whitemike was picked as his replacement (Week 1)<br />[/li][li]Traded Whitemike to the Splatterday Saints for Capodecima (Week 2)[/li]<br />[li]Junior has been Dismissed; Delusion drafted from Free Agency (Week 2)[/li][/list]<br />[/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3615, 399, 14, 1299110540, 157, 3615, 'Re: Season Finale - Week 9 ZDCTFMap08 (Map08) - Discussion and Results', 'Legion_', 'theomegaantin00b@gmail.com', '71.116.0.233', 1, 0, '', 'well I had fun, learned a lot, and I&#039;m gonna have fun on our last match, even if we aren&#039;t going to the playoffs<br /><br />glhf', 'xx', 1);
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	(3788, 410, 14, 1300319434, 158, 3793, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '173.206.35.202', 1, 1300324861, 'nostar', '[quote author=Jenova link=topic=410.msg3786#msg3786 date=1300318552]I&#039;m gay<br /><br />Help TT keep running, haha. What sort of maintenance does that require? You&#039;re a dipshit and Ladna pretty much does everything. You need donations from Hatred to even keep your servers running which is even sadder, and you pay for an overpriced piece of junk server in Chicago because Jkist is also probably paying you.<br />[/quote]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4050, 433, 16, 1305398941, 10, 4050, 'Re: The Draft', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '98.225.144.111', 1, 0, '', 'I believe Skulltag players can do very well in the IDL and have always been a pretty important part of the league in some capacity. Though they&#039;re often not top tier players, there have been a few exceptions with the most notable probably being Jenova. A lot of other standouts as well over the league&#039;s nine seasons. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(7405, 723, 22, 1346514328, 75, 7405, 'Re: Simplifying a Situation', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '178.209.142.37', 1, 0, '', 'yeah, i think i&#039;m being unfair here, but let&#039;s be honest, would tosen care about, say, KGB v. SUC in the slightest? he&#039;s following you guys around, he probably feels alone over at skulltag when you&#039;re all busy with IDL stuff. the little moron wants [i]your[/i] attention, so i find it unfair that we have to deal with the fallout.', 'xx', 1);
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	(7075, 687, 22, 1340244774, 4, 7075, 'Free Agents/Trade History Discussion', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '99.32.168.118', 1, 0, '', 'Oh man, I hope to god KGB beats BSK in week 3 using Capo hahahaha', 'xx', 1);
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	(2191, 246, 1, 1281291331, 130, 2191, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 1281292053, 'nostar', '[quote author=shadowman link=topic=246.msg2190#msg2190 date=1281285015]<br />ZDaemon is [i]undeniably[/i] the goose that lays your golden egg. Without them, you&#039;ll just die the same slow death that they are.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I don&#039;t think you know what that means. You should read Aesop&#039;s actual fable or at the very least the wiki that explains it.<br /><br />I would draw your attention back to the &quot;without them&quot;&nbsp; comment. If this is with them I don&#039;t even know what you mean when you say without them. Do you mean if they never wrote ZDaemon? They have done their very best to ostracize us, insult us publicly, censor our posts and belittle our efforts. <br /><br />So yes, I supposed IDL in it&#039;s current form wouldn&#039;t exist without zdaemon. But you can&#039;t at all say that they &quot;lay our golden egg&quot;. If any poor use of that analogy must be used, we would be the ones that lay their golden egg. As we retain players for longer and keep competitive play alive in zdaemon. It otherwise does not exist, in North America at least (yes i saw you coming dewww).<br /><br />[quote author=shadowman link=topic=246.msg2190#msg2190 date=1281285015]<br />Also, by pulling all the &#039;best&#039; players out of public CTF, you [i]undeniably[/i] put another nail in the already fading public CTF coffin, whether you all realize it or not. You should have implemented a league for all skill levels while ZD was booming and had the players to be interested. Now the newbies have dried up...<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I think it&#039;s fair to say that IDL poaches players from zdaemon, and it&#039;s also fair to say that we&#039;re not poaching them to do anything except PLAY MORE ZDAEMON. Then again there isn&#039;t anything to say that just because you play in IDL you can&#039;t play on public zdaemon server...unless you&#039;re ralphis. I see many players currently and formerly in IDL playing on public servers from time to time. As for the skill level factor, we actually attempted a development league a few seasons back. It failed for probably a lot of reasons, not the least of which is that people who aren&#039;t that good at this game aren&#039;t good because they&#039;re not active enough. The reason the skill level of IDL is high is because the people who participate play, or have played, a lot. I still think it would be nice to have a B-league and lobbied for one this year actually. It may happen yet!', 'xx', 1);
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	(3616, 398, 14, 1299116389, 64, 3616, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'BloodStrike', 'fat1802002@yahoo.com', '134.29.182.12', 1, 0, '', 'Wow..To even be considered in the comeback player of the year is pretty awesome..Although there really weren&#039;t any players to mention for this category haha. I&#039;ve tried really hard this year to not be a douchebag, and I think it has paid off big time. I would also like to take this time to apologize to anybody that I have been an asshole to in the past. It was really not called for, and although I could back it up during season 2, it still was dumb and immature of me. <br /><br />With that said, I would like to thank Legion especially. I would vote him for the most underrated player this season because he has tried harder than anybody else I have played with for the IDL seasons I have participated in. The guy has class, and never quited when things seemed to get tough. Thanks for the amazing season Legion. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(3794, 410, 14, 1300326589, 7, 3794, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '38.109.187.5', 1, 0, '', 'Actually Nostar and the IDL Administration pretty much run everything.&nbsp; I haven&#039;t run any stats this season, and have changed servers over maybe once.&nbsp; Those guys are champs when it comes to this stuff, which sucks, is boring, and is easy to fuck up.<br /><br />Like it or not, people who contribute get their way.&nbsp; You can also contribute in several ways!&nbsp; Other people have:<br /><br />&nbsp; - Compiled the IDL WAD.<br />&nbsp; - Computed stats for each game.<br />&nbsp; - Found and fixed bugs in the IDL site.<br />&nbsp; - Sent us money.<br />&nbsp; - Hosted IDL servers on their server (this is no longer hard to do at all).<br /><br />As a bonus, if there&#039;s an IDL game on a server you run and Nostar&#039;s in your spot, boot his ass!&nbsp; Hooray equality!<br /><br />[quote author=Solar_Flare link=topic=410.msg3791#msg3791 date=1300319922]<br />Then explain why you weren&#039;t in the IDL channel, you did explain everything else but that.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I don&#039;t know why you think anyone has to explain anything to you, [b]you little bitch[/b].&nbsp; Relax.<br /><br />[quote author=Jenova link=topic=410.msg3788#msg3788 date=1300319434]<br />You need donations from Hatred to even keep your servers running which is even sadder<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Actually we take server hosting pretty seriously, so we kept our ZDaemon and Skulltag servers separate because we noticed that our ZD servers felt worse when ST servers were running.&nbsp; We couldn&#039;t really justify paying a whole separate server fee for ST coop, but Hatred was pretty into it and he [b]graciously[/b] offered to foot the bill for a while.&nbsp; Thank you Hatred, you&#039;re awesome!<br /><br />[quote author=Jenova link=topic=410.msg3788#msg3788 date=1300319434]<br />and you pay for an overpriced piece of junk server in Chicago because Jkist is also probably paying you.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I thought it was well known that JKist3 pretty much owns TotalTrash...?&nbsp; Also our Colocrossing server is pretty nice.&nbsp; For example, it&#039;s a dedicated server with dedicated bandwidth - not a VPS.&nbsp; It also only runs ZDaemon servers, it doesn&#039;t run a webserver, a database, or my porno site password crackers.&nbsp; Some of you might say, &quot;BAHAHA LADNA I CAUGHT YOUR FAGGOT ASS IN A LIE LOOK AT [url=http://totaltrash.org]THIS[/url] BITCH!&quot;&nbsp; And I would say to you that that&#039;s a completely separate server, a server that also hosts idl.org, forums.idl.org, wiki.idl.org, and some other crap.&nbsp; That&#039;s right, we don&#039;t even host WADs on Colocrossing, that&#039;s how hardcore we are.&nbsp; So you can probably see how it costs more than $5 a month.&nbsp; I mean, I won&#039;t argue that there aren&#039;t cheaper deals out there, and I certainly won&#039;t say that TT is perfect for everyone.&nbsp; But we do go way out of our way to provide the best experience for as many people as we possibly can.&nbsp; Actually I should say Nostar and JKist3 do, I pretty much don&#039;t do shit anymore.<br /><br />And before you say:<br /><br />[quote author=Solar_Flare link=topic=410.msg3791#msg3791 date=1300319922]<br />Then explain why you weren&#039;t in the IDL channel, you did explain everything else but that.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />[center][size=6][color=red][b]I BEAT OFF A LOT MORE NOW STRANGLE AND I&#039;M MUCH HAPPIER FOR IT.[/color][/size][/center]<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(4455, 484, 16, 1312342835, 19, 4455, 'Re: Reinstate franchising and editing some of the IDL maps', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.183.245', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=484.msg4453#msg4453 date=1312339384]<br />What happens when both flags are in there?&nbsp; Is that fun to you for 7 mins or whatever like it happened in one match?&nbsp; Obviously instead of adding lava switches to everything we should be adding one way teleport dead ends, since Tai thinks they are a credit to player skill.&nbsp; You are also suggesting the defense protect the enemy team&#039;s teleporter in their base?&nbsp; Maybe that&#039;s why you always leave defense, haha.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Do you even know the words you are typing on the screen in front of you', 'xx', 1);
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	(4280, 456, 16, 1310011854, 214, 4280, 'Re: WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE CURRENT IDL STANDINGS?', 'RustInPeace', 'sindeception@yahoo.com', '69.154.186.153', 1, 0, '', '[quote=nostar][quote author=RustInPeace link=topic=456.msg4272#msg4272 date=1309929344]<br />There are 2 reasons why they won their games so far.<br /><br />1. Strangle<br />2. Mobius<br />[/quote]<br /><br />If they&#039;re winning games because a team has a weak link then they&#039;re going to win the majority of their games this season. I see them going 5-4 and staying +.500.<br />[/quote]<br />Not exactly what I meant, but I guess that&#039;s what happens for being too brief.<br /><br />FLS beat KNF because strangle once again established an impromptu lineup that had nearly no practice together. Its also worth noting that going into week 5, strangle has yet another lineup different from the previous week(s).<br /><br />Although Mobius is a rookie runner (to IDL) and perhaps the weak link of EBL (I&#039;m being much nicer than most people), he isn&#039;t the sole reason FLS overcame EBL. Hate/Saber had only practiced for about 2 days together whereas Legion/Chewy have been together since the beginning.<br /><br />Not to take away from their wins, but they are getting somewhat of a little break by playing teams with unstable lineups. With that said, I don&#039;t see them winning weeks 6-8 and perhaps 9 if strangle gets his head straight and gets his team together.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4504, 486, 26, 1312732339, 0, 4504, 'Re: Wiki', 'Fastidious', '', '76.223.246.71', 1, 0, '', 'Bones seemed to think it wasn&#039;t possible, he said to ask you.&nbsp;  ;D', 'xx', 1);
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	(4166, 443, 18, 1307645204, 8, 4166, 'Re: Week 1 (Jun 6 - Jun 12) : ZDCTF26 (MAP 26) - Discussion and Results', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '96.233.70.75', 1, 1307645351, 'HumanBones', 'Since the homepage is still not working, I wanted to post the times for all the scheduled games here so nobody misses any. For future reference, it is very important that [b]all[/b] captains submit their availability to me. You [b]are not allowed[/b] to schedule your own games; this should be nothing new. The league goes a lot smoother when games are scheduled for each team, and it is the fairest and least-problematic way of handling things. With that being said, I also have to stress that I need teams availabilities by Tuesday each week. I do not want to have to schedule games for each team, and of course I was lenient this week. <br /><br />Here is the schedule for Week 1:<br /><br />TKV vs SUC: Fri @ 11pm<br />EBL vs DMR: Sat @ 11pm<br />BSK vs BBC: Thurs @ 10:30pm<br />SXP vs KNF: Thurs @ 11pm<br />FLS vs SPE: Sun @ 10:30pm<br />DMC vs KGB: Sunday TBA<br /><br />I am making such a big stink about scheduling because it is Thursday and we still have one game left to schedule. Tai needs to talk to Junior, and if he does so by tonight we should be fine. If not, I am scheduling the game based on DMC&#039;s availability. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4519, 489, 17, 1312834808, 7, 4519, 'Forfeits, etc.', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.242', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;ll be the first to admit that I don&#039;t know any of the circumstances surrounding any of the forfeits, except maybe for DMR&#039;s if it was due to Nostar vacationing in Bermuda.&nbsp; But I have opinions anyway, and I&#039;m sure everyone else does, so let&#039;s get it rolling.<br /><br />I don&#039;t think you can blame forfeits on any specific cause.&nbsp; It&#039;s popular maybe to blame shitty captains or shitty players, but DMR fits neither of those descriptions.&nbsp; Instead, I personally think that IDL needed to do more to be more attractive to more players.<br /><br />Let&#039;s not get carried away though.&nbsp; This is IDL&#039;s [b]TENTH[/b] season; we&#039;ve been around for five years and over that time changed the entire landscape of competitive Doom.&nbsp; So I certainly don&#039;t mean to be all doom and gloom, IDL&#039;s doing a great job and we should all be proud of what we&#039;ve accomplished.<br /><br />=== Competing for players<br /><br />I think we need to take it seriously when players choose to do things instead of play their IDL game, because that means that players who actually are interested enough in Doom to know about CTF, ZDaemon, and IDL chose to do something else - whatever that actually is.&nbsp; Sure some things don&#039;t really fall into that category; I got in a car crash a couple seasons ago, Nostar disappeared into the deep mystical fog of the north Atlantic, etc.&nbsp; But when people just don&#039;t show up or quit, I think we should consider that we lost the fight for their time.<br /><br />=== &quot;Holding the league hostage&quot; vs. &quot;Retaining players&quot;<br /><br />I absolutely don&#039;t think that IDL should twist and turn based on the whims of a few players, regardless of who they are.&nbsp; Rather I think we should always be focused on player retention and playerbase growth.<br /><br />This season&#039;s 8/10/12 team argument is a good example.&nbsp; Again I&#039;m short on details, but from what I understand sticking with 12 teams grew the playerbase because more people signed up because of it than didn&#039;t sign up because of it.&nbsp; And certainly we can agree that more players who would never normally see the inside of an IDL server are playing this season than in recent seasons.&nbsp; If that holds to be true (I think we&#039;ll know for sure based on signups for Season XI) then I think the administration made the right call, regardless of forfeits, drama, etc.<br /><br />=== Improving IDL<br /><br />I think it&#039;s critically important for the administration to listen to players for two reasons:<br /><br />&nbsp; - They feel like they have a say in the league&#039;s direction (and really they do, at least when they talked to me)<br />&nbsp; - You know what players love and hate about the league, and that helps to make decisions that grow the playerbase<br /><br />To return to the 8/10/12 team argument, I talked with Jenova a little about why he didn&#039;t sign up this season, and (paraphrasing) he said he just didn&#039;t want to play games against weak teams.&nbsp; There are some things you can say about this:<br /><br />&nbsp; - Teams are overall stronger when strong players (like Jenova) join the league.<br />&nbsp; - Teams are overall stronger when strong players captain and talent is thus spread.<br />&nbsp; - Some teams are surprisingly strong, whereas other teams are surprisingly weak (ranking players, etc.).<br />&nbsp; - It&#039;s probably impossible to eliminate weak teams.<br /><br />But I wasn&#039;t trying to argue with him, I was trying to understand why he didn&#039;t join so I can give suggestions to the administration on how to get players like Jenova to sign up for the league again.&nbsp; Like it or not we&#039;re a small community, and every player who doesn&#039;t sign up hurts the league in a significant way.&nbsp; Think how much better this season would&#039;ve gone if just 5 more players signed up.<br /><br />With that in mind, I think the administration needs to find out the reasons behind all the forfeits this season, and they should talk to players who didn&#039;t sign up for the last two seasons or who might not sign up next season and see if there&#039;s anything they can do to make IDL more attractive to them.&nbsp; Honestly I&#039;ve found that just talking to players and explaining some of the things that we argue about in #idlb makes a big difference, even if nothing can realistically be done about their complaints.&nbsp; And on some level, players deserve to be a part of those discussions and the league&#039;s direction in general.<br /><br />Overall, I suggest talking to players - not to imply that this doesn&#039;t happen, but I&#039;m emphasizing its importance.<br /><br />To make a larger point, IDL only exists because players want to play in it.&nbsp; If players aren&#039;t signing up, if they&#039;re not showing up, if they&#039;re not practicing, if they&#039;re not uploading demos or talking about stats and strats, then either they shouldn&#039;t be in IDL, or IDL fucked up somewhere.<br /><br />=== Professionalism<br /><br />However - and this goes back to the &quot;holding the league hostage&quot; argument - it&#039;s important to make good decisions for solid reasons.&nbsp; From what I hear some players didn&#039;t want 12 teams this season, but &quot;we got more players&quot; is a great reason for that decision.&nbsp; Way back in the day players were upset when IDL went from 3 to 4 player teams, but &quot;we curbed forfeits&quot; was a great reason for that decision.&nbsp; IDL would stagnate if it pulled back whenever a player was upset.<br /><br />Making good decisions, enforcing rules, maintaining perspective, communicating with the playerbase, and in general not being faggots is what I would call professionalism, and it&#039;s what separates IDL and ZDDL from Skulltag-based events.&nbsp; There are a number of things that go into this:<br /><br />&nbsp; - Understanding the rules<br />&nbsp; - Discussing issues<br />&nbsp; - Being around and keeping up to date with events (who has demo penalties, etc.)<br /><br />I don&#039;t mean to diminish what the administration already does, doing all the stats, entering all the players in for each season, handling scheduling, moderating disputes, etc. etc. etc. is a huge amount of work.&nbsp; And I&#039;m not trying to be like, &quot;ho ho ho when I was on the board everything was waaaaay better&quot;.&nbsp; But I think we can agree there have been pretty huge failures in all of these things this season:<br /><br />&nbsp; - Changing the draft order the night before<br />&nbsp; - Illegal trades<br />&nbsp; - The most missing demos of any season<br /><br />If you guys need more board members, or some board members aren&#039;t doing anything, fix it I guess?&nbsp; For example, it shouldn&#039;t just be mike and Ralphis running stats for 6 games a week, the responsibility should rotate.&nbsp; Bones shouldn&#039;t be the only one hounding captains &amp; players for availability.&nbsp; I know we all have lives and other obligations - I resigned from the board for that reason - but if you&#039;re unable to actually participate in running IDL then you should let someone else do it, there&#039;s kind of a line.<br /><br />===<br /><br />Alright, I think that&#039;s enough.&nbsp; It kind of morphed into a BAWWW post, but I&#039;m really not depressed or disappointed by this season at all.&nbsp; I think it&#039;s cool that players like Killforce and Soulsucka got to play in games and have an impact on IDL, I think it&#039;s cool that even ZD spies like Dannyboy are playing in games, I think it&#039;s cool Doomguy came back, I like the Euro player count this season, and I really like that Funcrusher is an IDL server host this season (hooray!).&nbsp; Things are improving, but there are always to improve further.&nbsp; So what do you guys think?', 'xx', 1);
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	(4753, 483, 16, 1315633531, 141, 4753, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'X-Ray', 'jake.281@hotmail.com', '69.125.115.147', 1, 0, '', 'http://www.speedyshare.com/files/30248224/xctf3b.wad i fixed the bases i&#039;ll detail later tho : )', 'xx', 1);
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	(2217, 246, 1, 1281590996, 130, 2217, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=246.msg2216#msg2216 date=1281582388]<br />The IDL is a bit of a pain to play in lately since there are some super competitive people but mainly because once you get a team you are stuck with it all season long pretty much.&nbsp; After the first week or three most teams have a pretty good idea where they will end up unless some crazy trade happens (like Hatred to EBL).&nbsp; Getting a on a winning team is great but getting stuck on a horrible team is so terrible that it makes me barely want to sign up.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />This is completely understandable. There are a couple of solutions I think:<br /><br />- Get way better. This way any team you&#039;re on is a winner. There really wasn&#039;t a team this season lacking a very solid 2nd and if you&#039;re a captain that is 2/3. Everyone&#039;s 3rd is rough and some teams hit the lottery. Best bet is to take a page out of Ralph or Chain&#039;s book and just play better than anyone else. They carry teams and you should too!<br /><br />- Shorter IDL with more games per week. This is a good idea and can&#039;t happen because we&#039;re already struggling desperately with scheduling and activity levels as it stands. I like the idea but it is a little out of the realm of possibility right now.<br /><br />- Round robin tourneys. Sure they are fun. Yes you can play on a new team every week. Yes it might stimulate activity. I actually think we should setup a night each week where players can come and play on a team with the same people for 4-5 maps in a row. Like a weekly ctf tourney that lands you with different players. It wouldn&#039;t be too hard to make it even and it would assure people get ample playing time, get a feel for teams, and can play if they show. It&#039;s pretty simple. Someone do it I guess.<br /><br />Option 1 was really the only thing I could do without the support or help of anyone else. You could try that or start to organize an event like the ones listed.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2203, 244, 12, 1281374382, 19, 2203, 'Re: IDL S2010 Wildcard Playoffs (Aug 2 - Aug 8.)', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.3.36', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/090810/1281374225.png[/img]<br />[img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/090810/1281374233.png[/img]<br /><br />GGs KGB, good luck next season!<br /><br />AND HERE IS YOUR DEMO LADNA http://www.speedyshare.com/files/23728306/2010.08.08_23.39.23_idl2010h.108.zdo', 'xx', 1);
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	(2205, 246, 1, 1281383594, 130, 2205, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '208.54.35.47', 1, 0, '', 'That would be great...except no one in the administration thinks anything is wrong. Good luck convincing them. You&#039;re right, no one is at the wheel to the extent they need to be. I wasnt really around when raider was active so I cant comment on that.&nbsp; ', 'xx', 1);
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	(2206, 246, 1, 1281385067, 7, 2206, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 1281398408, 'Ladna', 'Kilgore recently posted this in [url=http://forums.zdaemon.org/viewtopic.php?p=251706#251706]Yo Yo Pt. 2[/url]:<br /><br />[quote author=Kilgore]Finally.. I&#039;ll say it again: I didn&#039;t insult Ladna or any person in particular[/quote]<br /><br />He calls me &quot;dumb&quot; in his conversation with Nostar [url=http://pastebin.com/VvjrN6mC]here[/url].&nbsp; Not only that, he admits to ignoring me over and over again.<br /><br />He&#039;s also extremely rude to Kitty [url=http://forums.zdaemon.org/viewtopic.php?p=251465#251465]here[/url]:<br /><br />[quote author=Kilgore]<br />Kitty: I&#039;m glad you show us your feelings. Let&#039;s just say that they&#039;re mutual; [b]don&#039;t let the door hit you on your way out[/b]. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />And honestly, I&#039;m nowhere near this thin-skinned.&nbsp; But when my post, that neither names nor insults him, is considered &quot;extremely rude&quot;, and his conversation that both names and insults me is completely forgotten, I just have to call hypocrisy here.&nbsp; And this isn&#039;t some trivial crap about feelings being hurt, he&#039;s talking about forum bans because of a forum post that, again, neither names nor insults him.<br /><br />Oh hey, it looks like he even uses my own logic here:<br /><br />[quote author=Kilgore]<br />you guys seem to be worked up about my &quot;random person&quot; reference. Re-read what I typed: I didn&#039;t refer to Ladna or any person specifically. That person could be Donald Knuth or John Carmack for all I care; it&#039;s the same to me.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Alright, let&#039;s re-read what you typed:<br /><br />[quote author=Kilgore]<br />[b]Ladna[/b] and his IRC bot: even if we wanted to support the IDL (which we don&#039;t), there is no way we&#039;d let random people run bots on our chat server: there was a reason we went to the trouble of making our own chat client and our own server, and that was to control what sort of software runs in there. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />It looks like, yeah, that&#039;s definitely my name up there.&nbsp;  ::)<br /><br />If we&#039;re going to be reasonable people, we have to examine our own behavior and its consequences.&nbsp; We have to not hold others to a higher standard than we hold ourselves.&nbsp; In this case, Kilgore behaves obviously worse than I, but I&#039;m the one with a forum ban.&nbsp; Awesome.<br /><br />Finally, I&#039;d like to re-visit the post that Kilgore (or someone) deleted from the ZD forums that I cross-posted here (the OP post at the top of this thread).&nbsp; Nothing in that post is rude in the slightest.&nbsp; In fact, let me quote the strongest part of it:<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna]<br />However, as of today I&#039;ve decided that I&#039;m no longer willing to support ZDaemon.&nbsp; ZDaemon&#039;s administration has nothing but contempt for me and my efforts to contribute to the community.&nbsp; It regards me as subversive, annoying, and stupid - and I&#039;m using the administration&#039;s words here.&nbsp; After over 2 years of devoting huge amounts of my time and money attempting to contribute to ZDaemon, I&#039;m finally taking the hint and taking down nearly all of TotalTrash&#039;s servers.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />There&#039;s nothing rude about any of that.&nbsp; No one&#039;s named or insulted, I don&#039;t swear, and (if I do say so myself) it&#039;s very well-written!&nbsp; If this is the kind of thing that&#039;s considered &quot;rude&quot; by the ZDaemon administration, then I don&#039;t know what to do.&nbsp; Apparently no differing opinions can be expressed in public ever.<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />Regarding &quot;saving ZDaemon&quot;, I wouldn&#039;t be so melodramatic about it.&nbsp; ZDaemon is just a game, and there&#039;s still a significant amount of people that play it and want to contribute to it.&nbsp; I would never even consider doing something like &quot;usurping&quot; ZDaemon&#039;s services with a new website, reverse-engineered master, etc.&nbsp; Not only is that a dirt-bag thing to do (it might even be illegal regarding ZDaemon&#039;s usage license), I think if you have the ability and time to do that kind of thing, it&#039;s better spent working on a port that doesn&#039;t treat you like dirt.<br /><br />You know what the administration could do?&nbsp; Un-delete my &quot;TT is closing&quot; thread, or come here and have a discussion.&nbsp; We can act like adults and talk to each other, rather than ignore each other, threaten each other, and silence each other.&nbsp; Well, actually that&#039;s just what Kilgore did to me, but you get the point.<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />And lastly, because this has really frustrated me lately, there&#039;s a difference between a &quot;PR campaign&quot; and expressing yourself.&nbsp; I don&#039;t even know what a PR campaign entails.&nbsp; Buying internet ads?&nbsp; Making ad videos and posting them?&nbsp; If I make a forum post that disagrees with the ZDaemon administration, it&#039;s not a PR campaign, [b]it&#039;s me disagreeing with them[/b].&nbsp; If a lot of people agree with me, [b]it&#039;s a lot of people disagreeing with them[/b].&nbsp; I&#039;m not making anything up, and I&#039;m not leaving anything out of my account of events (unlike Kilgore&#039;s account of the GetWAD incident), and in no way am I trying to convince anyone that what I think is right.&nbsp; Of course, if Kilgore or any admin/mod posted a response to anything I&#039;ve ever posted and didn&#039;t lock/delete the thread, then yeah, I&#039;d engage in a reasonable, polite debate.&nbsp; But maybe that&#039;s &quot;causing trouble&quot;, I don&#039;t know.<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />Oh, more junk:<br /><br />[quote author=Kilgore]<br />Supernova: if you quote that thread about demos and you&#039;re saying it explains why he was offended... I don&#039;t know what to say. That particular thread shows precisely how he acted in bad faith; all devs were extremely offended by the tone/attitude. It was my mistake of not reacting appropriately back then; I wish I had. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />Let me quote anything strong from that post here:<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna]<br />[quote author=EarthQuake]<br />Basically, the demo system originally developed by id Software was not intended to have such features.<br />[/quote]<br />I imagine this is the same for all the stuff in ZDaemon that&#039;s not in Doom II or ZDoom 1.22 or CSDoom. That&#039;s why it&#039;s called a &quot;feature request&quot;.<br /><br />[quote author=EarthQuake]<br />You should probably be thankful for the demo support we already have.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Can we just assume I&#039;m thankful for ZDaemon by virtue of all the crap I do for the community, or do I have to put it at the top of every post like some pathetic sycophant? And I thought this was the &quot;feature requests&quot; section of the forums.<br /><br />[quote author=EarthQuake]<br />You might also do a little research before posting more requests,<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Where and for what? And don&#039;t say &quot;the forums&quot; because there&#039;s something like hundreds of threads and millions of posts. There&#039;s no way I&#039;m combing through that crap. I&#039;ll be glad to setup a wiki and a bug tracker on my own server and in my own time (or someone else&#039;s server I don&#039;t really care), but this &quot;try searching the forums&quot; thing has got to stop.<br /><br />Frankly I&#039;d love to read the source. I&#039;ve been reading Odamex&#039;s source a lot lately and I have a hugely better understanding of Doom now - or at least Odamex&#039;s version of Doom anyway.<br /><br />[quote author=EarthQuake]<br />so Kilgore doesn&#039;t have any more aneurysms.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I&#039;d be glad to help, but any code I might contribute gets eaten up in the big, closed-source blob that is ZDaemon, so I don&#039;t really know what else to do.<br /><br />And on a wholly unrelated note, if the general response to, &quot;hey I love ZDaemon, but here&#039;s something that, imo, would make it better&quot; is:<br /><br />- You have no idea how ZDaemon works.<br />- Did you spend a requisite amount of time searching the forums?<br />- This is totally impossible.<br />- You should be thankful for ZDaemon as it stands.<br />- Just requesting these features is too much of a load on the dev team, let alone implementing them. How selfish!<br /><br />then I suggest taking this section of the forums down, because it seems like feature requests aren&#039;t really wanted. Honestly, I&#039;m not snapping my fingers and making the dev team recook my damn steak, and I don&#039;t feel like I need to go around with the attitude of:<br /><br />&quot;Thank you so much Lord Jesus for the gift of ZDaemon. I know you had better things to do, but you love us gamers so much that you toiled and toiled endlessly so I could waste my life playing this terrific game.&quot;<br /><br />Come on. If a developer feels that way about ZDaemon then they should quit, and if they all feel that way, they should open the source up and retire.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Note how no one is insulted, and how my entire post follows the flow of EarthQuake&#039;s original post (who, it turns out, is actually a cool guy).&nbsp; Kilgore says the entire dev team was insulted by my tone/attitude.&nbsp; If tone/attitude gets you banned from the ZDaemon forums, then I don&#039;t know what to do.&nbsp; In no way did I act in &quot;bad faith&quot;, and if anyone felt like it, the reasonable, adult thing to do is say something like:<br /><br />&quot;Hey Ladna.&nbsp; I was really offended by your tone in your post the other day, why would you say things like that?&quot;<br /><br />And then I&#039;d explain that I felt like I was attacked, and that I certainly didn&#039;t mean to offend anyone.&nbsp; And beyond that, that I felt like the ZD forums were turning into a bunch of yes men and players too afraid to say what they thought because of rampant thread-locking and banning.&nbsp; Although I suppose if you don&#039;t want to examine your own behavior, then the logical thing to do is just lock threads and yell at people.&nbsp; Cool.<br /><br />[quote author=Kilgore]<br />I&#039;ve about had it with ZDdrama.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Then quit deleting posts, locking threads, and threatening people.&nbsp; This is all you buddy.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6317, 620, 20, 1330382745, 8, 6317, 'WEEK 9 (FEB 27 - MAR 4) : ZDU34 (MAP32) - Discussion and Results', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@intldoomleague.org', '108.207.0.195', 1, 0, '', '[center][size=4][b]Official Servers for Week 9 of IDL Winter 2012[/b][/size]<br /><br />[b](TotalTrash Chicago)[/b]<br />[color=red][International Doom League Week 9 - MAP32 - A][/color]<br />[b]216.52.143.234:11022[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League&nbsp; Week 9 - MAP32 - B][/color]<br />[b]216.52.143.234:11023[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League Week 9 - MAP32 - C][/color]<br />[b]216.52.143.234:11024[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League Week 9 - MAP32 - D][/color]<br />[b]216.52.143.234:11025[/b]<br /><br /><br />[b]Official Alternative (POWERHOUSE: Montreal)[/b]<br />[color=red][International Doom League Week 9 - MAP32 - A][/color]<br />[b]70.38.121.52:27002[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League Week 9 - MAP32 - B][/color]<br />[b]70.38.121.52:27003[/b]<br /><br />=======================================================<br /><br />Contraband vs Mass Destruction (DIV)<br /><br />Brokeback Cowboys vs Ricochet Rockets (DIV)<br /><br />Killing Browns vs Super Shotgun Spurs (DIV)<br /><br />Super Chargers vs Philanthropic Blowhards (DIV)<br /><br />The Cult of Bestism vs Plasmadicks United <br /><br />Fnordy Niners vs We&#039;re All Doomed<br /><br />=======================================================[/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(7325, 715, 17, 1345451536, 2212, 7325, 'Re: I''m banned', 'Xyltol', 'xyltol@gmail.com', '76.198.253.21', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ru5tK1ng]<br />In his defense, that is a legit statement. Nostar did get away with his breaking of the demo rule. However, it is not entirely Bones&#039; fault as seeing there was a demo cop at that time.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Getting away with breaking any kind of rule to this extent (especially for such a period that Nostar did) shows negligence in the administrators and boards of the time; they obviously didn&#039;t do their jobs..so he abused it.<br /><br />[quote author=Ru5tK1ng]<br />Regardless, this is old news and it&#039;s done with. You&#039;re two seasons too late for your commentary strangle.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />It&#039;s never too late to learn from past mistakes nor the past negligence of poor administration. They let Nostar get away with this in &quot;old news&quot; as you say, so why wouldn&#039;t it be allowed in &quot;new news&quot;?<br /><br />[quote author=&quot;Ru5tK1ng]<br />However, the issue of nostar demo dodging has gone past the point of importance.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />These points are never past the point of importance when the Administration/Board let it go and show no sign of admitting nor solving of it.<br /><br />[quote author=&quot;Strangle&quot;]<br />2012-08-17&nbsp; 13:29:42&nbsp; &lt;strangl&gt;&nbsp;  considering he didn&#039;t make nostar upload his demos in the past season, looks like he can&#039;t make anyone do anything!<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Just to further this..Bones doesn&#039;t seem to mind going back on his word after talking with both captains in the event of a change (I suppose as Rust would say holds no merit anymore), as in DG&#039;s last season against Prime on map09 Bones let Xenaero control the entire team when DG/Bones/Prime agreed to postpone the match in the event that myself and DG could not make the game (which ended up happening), and Prime didn&#039;t agree to it when it was actually necessary..but Bones forced our team to play because Xenaero was willing to play &quot;with or without his team&quot;, while I was talking to Bones about the circumstances involved (which ended up costing us a loss on a game that should not have happened).', 'xx', 1);
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	(2240, 250, 12, 1281766369, 15, 2240, 'Re: IDL S2010 Wildcard Playoffs (Aug 2 - Aug 8.)', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.97.218', 1, 0, '', 'lol....', 'xx', 1);
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	(3119, 350, 14, 1293517324, 15, 3119, 'Re: W2011 Suicide League', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.94.122', 1, 0, '', 'Week1: BSK', 'xx', 1);
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	(3525, 388, 14, 1297833165, 216, 3525, 'Re: Pre-Pre-Post-Season Predictions Predictions', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '67.68.35.197', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ralphis link=topic=388.msg3522#msg3522 date=1297816661]<br />[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=388.msg3521#msg3521 date=1297812474]<br />Whoever is coming out of the WDC is winning it.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Try and do better than you did in week 1 ok<br />[/quote]<br /><br />owned', 'xx', 1);
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	(3617, 398, 14, 1299120018, 130, 3617, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '38.109.187.5', 1, 0, '', 'Joe Webb 4 prez.<br />Blood, sign up next season!', 'xx', 1);
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	(3795, 410, 14, 1300328417, 158, 3795, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '173.206.35.202', 1, 0, '', 'I don&#039;t understand, how much do you exactly pay for your servers? I could host 20+ Skulltag servers on a dedicated server that cost me about $40/month? You host 15 &quot;vanilla&quot; zdaemon servers (no large mods to take up more resources) which would actually use less than the aforementioned server. <br /><br />Since you only run straight ZD servers, bandwidth and harddrive space isn&#039;t really an issue either. How much do you exactly pay per month?', 'xx', 1);
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	(4052, 433, 16, 1305520347, 213, 4056, 'Re: The Draft', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '192.200.128.45', 1, 1305556007, 'MassVC', 'Yes Xen, we need(ed) more sign-ups.&nbsp; Also, I&#039;m about to ban Capo unless that bitch gets naked and starts moving again.<br /><br />[b]Some topics for other threads:[/b]<br />[list][li]Ah, Memories: The Franchising Years![/li]<br />[li]Draft Pick Trading: The Prostitution of the IDL[/li]<br />[li]No Homer or No Homer[i]s[/i] Club: How Large Should IDL Be?[/li][/list]<br /><br />No matter how each of these discussions gets resolved, we still have to have a draft order!<br /><br />[b]Can a team with Legion beat a team with Ralphis under any draft system?[/b] Yes.&nbsp; Legion, Nostar, and Jenova can beat Ralphis, MadV, and Mandolore every time.&nbsp; Traginus.&nbsp; And there are possible draft systems where this can happen, although none of them are very good.<br /><br />[b]Can the IDL be made completely even through a draft revision?[/b]&nbsp; Not entirely, no.&nbsp; A completely even league would result in a tie outcome for every game, and there would be no way of determining who makes it to the playoffs.&nbsp; This is stupid and, fortunately, impossible.<br /><br />[b]Can the IDL be made [i]more[/i] even through a draft revision?[/b]&nbsp; Absolutely, as these simulations and reason are clear to show, and if evenness is a good quality in a competitive league, then the draft should be revised to make it as even as possible.<br /><br />[b]The Major Issue at Hand[/b]<br /><br />I am concerned with finding a draft system that compensates for captain [i]skill level[/i].&nbsp; In order to do this, we have to assess the skill level of each captain as well as the skill level of each player in the free agency.&nbsp; This isn&#039;t an unfamiliar practice.&nbsp; We do it every day when we pick teams in priv, captains do it when they draft players, and we&#039;re doing it right now when we say that initially Legion doesn&#039;t have a very good chance capping against Ralphis.<br /><br />Ralphis is correct that there is something illegitimate about this.&nbsp; Player skill level is to some degree a matter of opinion, and who can say whether Naut or Clim is the better CTFer?&nbsp; On the other hand, player skill is largely objective.&nbsp; Jenova is actually better at this game than I am, and nobody would disagree with that.&nbsp; If Jenova and I are both captains, and if we want to even things out, then I should get a higher pick than he gets.<br /><br />I think Nostar&#039;s tier system is a good way of compromising between the solid objectivity of some skill difference comparisons (mine and Jenova&#039;s) and the fuzzy subjectivity of others (Naut&#039;s and Clim&#039;s).<br /><br />If we need objective statistics to ground these rankings, we can find some.&nbsp; We could use career win-loss statistics; Jefferson can write an equation combining frag and flag per-rounds and ratios; personally, I think the best one to use would be average draft order since it comprises the collective opinions of past IDL captains.&nbsp; Although, because statistics are often misleading and in this small and short-lived league imcomplete, a better system would be to have five intelligent and doom-skilled individuals (EDIT: nevermind, the board are clearly idiots) list the captains&#039; skill levels from best to worst, assign points, count up the points, break ties with a vote.&nbsp; 10 minutes.&nbsp; Opinions are made objective with surveys.&nbsp; Gandhi was actually a good man because most people are of the opinion that he was a good man.<br /><br />Bones:<br /><br />I like the direction you&#039;re heading, except I think we need to compensate for captains&#039; skill levels rather than experience levels.&nbsp; The fact that LordBritish is new to captaining doesn&#039;t mean that he&#039;s not a great player with excellent leadership abilities.&nbsp; If he randomly gets first pick and drafts Chewy and Rottking, he will easily win this season, and as I guess Strangle tried to help point out, easy wins aren&#039;t fun for the winner or the loser.&nbsp; LB should get a later pick because he&#039;s better than the rest of us, which would quickly be determined by any of the above-mentioned methods.&nbsp; In the same-way, Legion shouldn&#039;t be pushed down to 6th pick just because 5 other captains quit and he didn&#039;t.&nbsp; He still deserves an early pick, and I think he needs it if he&#039;s going to have a shot at taking the Master Bowl.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4167, 443, 18, 1307646277, 1322, 4167, 'Re: Week 1 (Jun 6 - Jun 12) : ZDCTF26 (MAP 26) - Discussion and Results', 'SwiftShot', 'markwwfc1992@hotmail.com', '82.30.151.199', 1, 0, '', 'I thought it was harsh on me having to stay awake till at least 4am for the BSK game ... Then I saw that KNF aka Team Euro play 30 minutes later, with +1GMT&nbsp;  ;D', 'xx', 1);
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	(4456, 484, 16, 1312343560, 163, 4456, 'Re: Reinstate franchising and editing some of the IDL maps', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.110.104.242', 1, 0, '', '[quote=&quot;Fastidious&quot;]I don&#039;t like map14 cause it&#039;s a stupid grind in a hall.&nbsp; I would say it does need a fix however in regards to the teleporter.&nbsp; It doesn&#039;t happen often but whenever a flag runner can get the flag in there in a stand off it gets pretty stupid attacking into a teleport.&nbsp; If there was another way into that area it&#039;d be fixed and not lame.&nbsp; I&#039;d suggest either a switch to open the top gate by the flag or a hall way connecting to the spawn room.[/quote]<br /><br />In theory that sounds good, Fast, but you&#039;d basically change the entire map to add another switch that opens the gate, especially in the team&#039;s base. If someone is fast enough to open the gate, grab the flag and not die and get back in, or do so with assistance, that&#039;s a great play - not a problem in the map. Even further more, doing this would create a ton of stand-offs as assisted entrances into the gate area would no longer take place and a lot of teams would probably keep a guy near by to camp the room with the tele/gate, making it even worse. Regardless, it could still be overcome and all but it would totally change the dynamics of the map. The map wasn&#039;t made to be zdctfmap19, it was made to be exactly what it is - a grind map. In 3vs3, it&#039;s not that bad of a map. It&#039;s still a grind-fest but I&#039;d probably take it over a map like map18, which is so chaotic that it&#039;s almost impossible to commit anyone to a true position other than just &quot;play positions on the fly.&quot; It makes for great spectacle and I admire it but in terms of gameplay, it sucks because of it&#039;s chaotic nature. In 14, at least it comes down to who controls mid and finally picks off a defender on flag top. <br /><br />But yeah, I&#039;m totally with Ladna on this one. People who&#039;ve suggested IDL needs new maps or need to edit the current ones are incorrect. The IDL has done nothing but introduce various maps into it&#039;s map-pack and we&#039;ve either loved them and kept them or we&#039;ve hated them and ditched them forever (probably what will end up happening to map05 this season). It&#039;s really quite simple, the problem is and has been talent. When we have the appropriate amount of teams given the talent that&#039;s signed up, teams should be more balanced - assuming that we don&#039;t have Captains that aren&#039;t skilled enough to make an IDL team. <br /><br />And before any of you idiots chime in and say &quot;harahre just bc u not a good playa dont mean u a bad cap. for instintz, envy wuldnt hav been if not for an captainship bein given 2 him. it take ledership and responsobility 2 b cap,&quot; just shut up. Being a great player is the majority of it and considering most Master Bowl winning teams have had at least 2 great players, having 1 to start with before the draft even begins is a fantastic start. Responsibility? Yeah, it&#039;s not easy to determine availabilities always but regardless, everyone has to submit them so all the captain really does is forward it to the commish&#039;. Leadership? Truly, I admit, it can make a difference. Especially for an under-manned squad or a team right on the cusp of being really good. But I&#039;m sorry, two great players with a manageable 3rd will overcome the lack of &quot;leadership&quot; any day of the week. Those great players lead by example, not by what they say. And also, don&#039;t compare Envy to lesser captains in terms of skill - while Envy never had the greatest shot or quickest movement, he always played smart and overall was not too shabby. I&#039;d take him over the majority of the IDL 3rds currently in the league as well as 3rds in previous seasons (probably even a few 2nds on some squads). His ability to coordinate and pay attention to detail is a skill in and of itself. <br /><br />But that&#039;s about it in a nutshell, despite me being a tad bit off topic. Nonetheless, the problems with the IDL are what I&#039;ve said a thousand times before: talent and bad players as captains. When we fix that, the IDL will be fine. And I should point out that we&#039;re over-reacting, this is one bad season. Especially coming off of one of the best seasons we&#039;ve ever had, I would go out on a limb and just say &quot;hey, it was a bad season - it happens. It&#039;ll be better next season.&quot; Let&#039;s move on now.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4554, 491, 18, 1313215590, 130, 4554, 'Re: Season 10 / Summer 2011 Playoffs - Quarterfinal Round - Discussion and Results', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.242', 1, 0, '', '[size=7][u][b]SUCK IT CAPO U BITCH[/b][/u][/size]', 'xx', 1);
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	(7076, 687, 22, 1340254064, 0, 7076, 'Free Agents/Trade History Discussion', 'Soul Sucka', '', '189.114.181.246', 1, 0, '', 'That would be awesome for the karma factor, but we&#039;ll have to see if Capo lasts in KGB for that long!', 'xx', 1);
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	(8687, 857, 17, 1363125005, 19, 8687, 'Re: The Downfall of IDL?', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '184.1.248.204', 1, 0, '', 'I think I need to really ask it, if you could go back to ZDaemon 1.08.08 with all of its weird map crash issues (&quot;PLEASE DONT VOTE MAP04 OH GOD&quot;) and desyncs and crap, would you?', 'xx', 1);
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	(2195, 246, 1, 1281320842, 130, 2195, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=246.msg2194#msg2194 date=1281311754]<br />[quote author=shadowman link=topic=246.msg2190#msg2190 date=1281285015]<br />Just a nobody here, and I don&#039;t take either side...just a couple of observations...[/quote]<br /><br />I doubt you are a nobody cause anyone who posts on this forum is usually pretty cool.&nbsp; Do you ever play private CTF?&nbsp; ;D<br />[/quote]<br /><br />He might actually just be a public player. Ladna left up the ZDaemon 8v8 server with *.*.*.* banned for reason &lt;go to forums.intldoomleague.org and check out idl&gt;<br /><br />I mean I don&#039;t know if he&#039;s no one of just some lurker but it&#039;s possible that he&#039;s just a guy who was banned like everyone else.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2218, 246, 1, 1281591790, 7, 2218, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'Hey, for anyone who&#039;s interested, here is some helpful info for IDL:<br /><br />IRC: quakenet.org, #idl (I personally use chatzilla, I know others use MIRC and XChat)<br />Private CTF: 66.225.231.106:11014 (colombo)<br />IDL A-D: 66.225.231.106:11022-11025 (seasoneight)<br /><br />Please don&#039;t just connect to the server and join the game, there are a bunch of rules and things (you&#039;ll get them ez, just don&#039;t mess up a game in progress).', 'xx', 1);
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	(6321, 619, 20, 1330386230, 19, 6321, 'Re: yo yo', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.224.113', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=RustInPeace link=topic=619.msg6314#msg6314 date=1330375183]<br />Xenaero single-handedly destroying MAD&#039;s season (Maybe only applies to DoomGuy lol D: )<br />[/quote]<br /><br />?', 'xx', 1);
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	(2223, 246, 1, 1281643625, 30, 2223, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'Beast', 'kjolly@uwm.edu', '129.89.125.185', 1, 0, '', '<br /><br />Joined: 10 Nov 2006<br />Location: Clan [R](anything)<br />	<br />PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:05 am&nbsp; &nbsp; Post subject: 	Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post<br />Well I&#039;m glad to hear the thread is coming back, when I got home the other day and saw that it was gone I was gonna give up too.<br /><br />I don&#039;t think people are over reacting to what happened, especially with the first few post that appeared in the part 3 thread, making it seem as if it were a joke. The first thing that came to my mind was that the admin team didn&#039;t give a fuck, deleted the thread, then wanted to joke about it.<br /><br />Now if you had of just explained it like you just did I doubt this thread here would even exist.<br /><br />So anyways while we were debating and discussing new ideas we where talking about, well at least I was talking about.<br /><br />1. a team to handle content, writers editors, etc.. people in the community that know most of what is happening and can diplomatically find out what is happening. We where getting to the point of having a Euro lead and a NA lead to champion the teams<br /><br />2. New forum mod at the very least for the clan section, lots of people nominated Thad I got one nomination, but Kilgore mentioned that we should PM Raider about the particular issue. I went ahead and have done that . I really only mentioned my interest in modding the clan section though.<br /><br />3. The site stuff which has a lot of features was basically confirmed by Phoenix2, but the part of maintaining the content....spoken about in number one hasn&#039;t been addressed. I think its one thing to create something but its another to maintain and keep up to date. Like a baby yeah sure I can ejaculate and have some babies but I have to take care of them...fill them with content ..Cool<br /><br />4. to keep the buzz going which thread do we share our fresh ideas in, assuming it will get merged when the deleted thread comes back?<br /><br /><br />p.s.<br />just thought about it if the clan section links to clan sites should it do so with a disclaimer and also lets not forget the clan site itself is supposed to link back to zdaemon<br /><br />CROSS POST', 'xx', 1);
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	(3233, 372, 3, 1294952929, 1996, 3233, 'Hiya', 'TKZ', 'CapnAnna@hotmail.com', '206.210.225.131', 1, 0, '', 'Hey, I&#039;m new to ZD and IDL, coming from skulltag (AKA Anna), but I&#039;d like to start being known on ZD as TKZ.<br /><br />I&#039;ll be in the Totaltrash priv server occasionally.<br /><br />Hi.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3526, 388, 14, 1297844793, 15, 3526, 'Re: Pre-Pre-Post-Season Predictions Predictions', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.91.231', 1, 0, '', 'We almost had you with ourhero playing for us....', 'xx', 1);
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	(3796, 410, 14, 1300328967, 19, 3796, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.249.152', 1, 1300329063, 'Xenaero', '[quote author=Ladna link=topic=410.msg3794#msg3794 date=1300326589]<br />Like it or not, people who contribute get their way. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />[img]http://epicponyz.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/tumblr_lakcpb50k71qcm14io1_500.gif[/img]<br /><br />Nuh-uh. Don&#039;t believe this man&#039;s lies.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4053, 433, 16, 1305530751, 19, 4053, 'Re: The Draft', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.249.152', 1, 1305530909, 'Xenaero', 'People are talking about changes to the draft system when we don&#039;t have enough players [b]to[/b] draft. I would say I&#039;m surprised but I&#039;m not really.<br /><br />[img]http://textanim.com/t-a362-yes-255/255/255-5-3-13055334239tzNue.gif[/img]<br /><br />e: Let&#039;s not have opinionated judging if we absolutely have to sort draft picks. That&#039;s just not a good idea. Stats, for one, are unbiased and cannot lie, and usually have no interests of their own unless they haven&#039;t YET BE PROCESSED BY PEOPLE [b]WHO ARE SUPPOSED [u]TO PROCESS THEM [i]ARE WE IN AGREEMENT [glow=red,2,300][shadow=red,left]MIKEHAIL?![/shadow][/glow][/i][/u][/b].<br /><br />In that case I heard stats can get mighty cranky.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4457, 473, 18, 1312346634, 216, 4457, 'Re: Week 8 (Jul 25 - Aug 1) : ZDCTF18: The Old Castle - Discussion and Results', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '67.68.35.162', 1, 0, '', 'GGS SPE! Was lots of fun :) <br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/USWHC.png[/img]<br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/JytMU.png[/img]<br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/IBIHa.png[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4635, 483, 16, 1314402437, 3, 4635, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'Joshsmith', 'tonihawker666@yahoo.com', '99.9.212.71', 1, 1314402566, 'Joshsmith', 'Yeah, I&#039;ve noticed some other differences between single player and multiplayer, for instance on map01 you can only rjump up to the side on I believe red&#039;s base, but not blue&#039;s, but online you can&#039;t rjump on either side. <br /><br />I had some problems myself on my map where I couldn&#039;t rjump in a base. Not that it&#039;s needed, but no splash damage on a ground anywhere isn&#039;t good in my mind, so I seemingly fixed that by changing the way the nodes were built, a tip I picked up on IRC one day.<br /><br />[i]To change the way nodes are built, go to:[/i]<br /><br />[B][u]Tools -&gt; Game Configurations -&gt; Nodebuilder Tab[/u][/b] <br /><br />and try changing them to something else. I believe the default is ZDBSP or ZenNode, and I believe I changed mine to glBSP which fixed the splash problem.<br /><br />I mention this because the lava might have something to do with that, and it&#039;s something for all authors here to consider checking.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4168, 443, 18, 1307651458, 15, 4168, 'Re: Week 1 (Jun 6 - Jun 12) : ZDCTF26 (MAP 26) - Discussion and Results', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '74.13.20.170', 1, 0, '', 'Damn, week1 and already scheduling issues?', 'xx', 1);
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	(6318, 621, 17, 1330383406, 7, 6318, 'What maps do you like?', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '65.214.200.140', 1, 0, '', 'What maps do you guys like?&nbsp; I&#039;m looking more for lists, at least 15 maps but preferably 30-40 maps you think are IDL quality, so don&#039;t pick gigantic maps or maps that are terrible w/o railgun.', 'xx', 1);
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	(7077, 687, 22, 1340273319, 19, 7077, 'Free Agents/Trade History Discussion', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.227.220', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=HumanBones link=topic=686.msg7071#msg7071 date=1340233373]<br />[b]Killing Browns[/b]<br />Traded Shogun to Free Agency in exchange for Capodecima (Pre-Season).<br />[/quote]<br /><br />What on earth...', 'xx', 1);
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	(2196, 246, 1, 1281322404, 7, 2196, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'Funny story, you can ban * using RCON, but when zserv restarts, it rejects the ban as an invalid IP address (even using *.*.*.*).&nbsp; You can&#039;t even ban something like 192.143.*.*, and if you do all the IP addresses manually, zserv rejects the list with &quot;too many bans&quot; and doesn&#039;t load any.<br /><br />FORTUNATELY ZDStack rescued me, and I used the banlist management feature to ban everyone.&nbsp; Thank God I didn&#039;t make this a feature request, because I&#039;d still be waiting for this functionality!&nbsp; Think of all the things I could be using right now if ZDaemon&#039;s source was open!', 'xx', 1);
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	(2219, 246, 1, 1281625211, 19, 2219, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.3.36', 1, 1281625368, 'Xenaero', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=246.msg2216#msg2216 date=1281582388]<br />Getting a on a winning team is great but getting stuck on a horrible team is so terrible that it makes me barely want to sign up.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Hasn&#039;t stopped me, you&#039;re just a wuss and like Ritz&#039;s cheese &#039;n&#039; crackers!', 'xx', 1);
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	(2226, 248, 12, 1281679013, 130, 2226, 'Co-MVPs', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'I just want to say that I think Co-MVP is really gay and relinquish any claim to it. Congrats Ralphis!', 'xx', 1);
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	(3629, 399, 14, 1299169759, 55, 3629, 'Re: Season Finale - Week 9 ZDCTFMap08 (Map08) - Discussion and Results', 'ReXn0r', 'yannik_marcos@hotmail.com', '189.152.101.197', 1, 0, '', 'Legion...you&#039;re a star shining brightly in the deep sky of the idl...don&#039;t let anybody tell you different...', 'xx', 1);
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	(8792, 870, 17, 1364267898, 8, 8792, 'ThatsJustPrime is New Board Member', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@intldoomleague.org', '108.207.0.195', 1, 0, '', 'ThatsJustPrime is New Board Member<br /><br />yay<br /><br />discuss', 'xx', 1);
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	(2224, 246, 1, 1281644362, 30, 2224, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'Beast', 'kjolly@uwm.edu', '129.89.125.185', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=246.msg2222#msg2222 date=1281637951]<br />[quote author=nostar link=topic=246.msg2217#msg2217 date=1281590996]- Get way better.[/quote]<br /><br />I think for me to get way better I&#039;ll need a wall hack and an aimbot.&nbsp; Plus let&#039;s be honest for the vast majority of people it is not easy to get leaps and bounds better.&nbsp; Part of my problem is I don&#039;t like captaining so you can blame that on me.<br />[/quote]<br /><br /><br />Fast your right, your aim fragging and movement skill is at the top of the charts, but at the same time you have to be able to work with people. <br /><br />I said this before but I think Ralphis is a genius at this, you give him the crapiest of crappy players and he seems to be able to make them work like they been playing for years.<br /><br />Lets talk about the original EVO clan, this clan had a shitload of well seasoned vets. They were all pretty much outstanding players in their previous clans but once they were all together in EVO who did they dominate? Not taking anything away from EVO but I think its a good example of people needing to be able to sacrifice and work with one another. <br /><br />In no way am I saying you can&#039;t do this either, I just think that you may need to be more open to working with certain people or w/e.<br /><br />Look at me for instance I&#039;m not the best player at anyone thing, I am a role player when it comes to CTF and if I&#039;m put in the right situation I shine. Hell if I actually fucking practiced I&#039;m sure I would fucking dominate. I plan to do so when the colder months come up. I only wrote this because I think you should continue to play doom, I was actually gonna give up man when that thread got deleted, I&#039;mma actually try to fix Rampage right now, bad sectors I think.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(3121, 357, 1, 1293593274, 130, 3121, 'Kilgore Klassics', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'So I thought about how many times I&#039;ve spoken to Kilgore and how I&#039;ve often felt dumbfounded by the end of many of those conversations. <br /><br />Please post your own experiences here that we all may look upon the ridiculousness that is Kilgore', 'xx', 1);
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	(3234, 372, 3, 1294959211, 19, 3234, 'Re: Hiya', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.7.88', 1, 0, '', 'Hi! Welcome to the International Doom League Forums. Prepare to be gutted, burned, attacked, mutilated, stomped on, bullied, desecrated, disemboweled, throttled, killed, run over, electrocuted, psycho crushed, shit on, beaten up, obliterated, teamkilled, and all-round just plain treasured by your fellow Doomers.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3527, 388, 14, 1297882944, 169, 3527, 'Re: Pre-Pre-Post-Season Predictions Predictions', 'OurHero', 'dereksoma@msn.com', '96.51.93.4', 1, 0, '', 'i am the best', 'xx', 1);
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	(3618, 398, 14, 1299122725, 55, 3618, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'ReXn0r', 'yannik_marcos@hotmail.com', '189.152.165.208', 1, 1299123186, 'ReXn0r', '1.-Without hesitation this one would go to mass, the guy just came out of nowhere, from another game, p much from another universe, and now he&#039;s ripping butts appart.<br /><br />2.-Goatface: even though many, for not saying most, called him stuff for making what we would call a stupid trade; he had an idea in mind, and even though his team is not the best one, he just might get there, if they reach the playoffs, Goat should be named the best captain.<br /><br />3.- Bloodstrike, he stays in the shadows for a while, and then comes back as if&nbsp; nothing had happened and doing some heavy damage. Maybe Rottking too...<br /><br />4.-Legion, no doubt about it, people have Legion on a very low steem, and yet, he has managed to survive, but not only that,&nbsp; he manages to fight, to be competitive, to be there, and he shows us all he can be a battling machine, I would very much like to see him being a captain next season, so he can give us all a few surprises.<br /><br />5.- Mikehail, like nostar said, it&#039;s not the best, but the most valuable, which means the player that steps up when his team needs him the most, and yeah, that one is mike, also not to mention his splendid work in idl-r, he has managed to motivate his team, being a good advisor and a great coach.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3797, 410, 14, 1300331148, 130, 3797, 'Re: Free wins....', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '38.109.187.5', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Jenova link=topic=410.msg3795#msg3795 date=1300328417]<br />I don&#039;t understand,<br />[/quote]<br /><br />GOD FINALLY. YOU DON&#039;T KNOW ANYTHING.<br /><br />[quote author=Jenova link=topic=410.msg3795#msg3795 date=1300328417]<br />...how much do you exactly pay for your servers?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Google Colocrossing, look at their prices for their servers.<br /><br />Additionally it isn&#039;t about what we need to host a zdaemon server, or 10, or 20. It&#039;s about what zserv does when it freaks out (eats proc or ram), or when 20 of them do. Bandwidth isn&#039;t a problem. The uplink is important to us which costs a little extrea. When TT did some tests we found the &quot;shared&quot; uplink of a VPS do be deficient especially for a gaming server that we try very hard to make the best on around. Anyway it&#039;s nice to have the facts instead of spewing shit. If you want to know what our servers cost, it&#039;s very simple. Google colocrossing and find out how much they will cost you.<br /><br />Xen is pissed!!!!', 'xx', 1);
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	(4054, 433, 16, 1305533956, 38, 4054, 'Re: The Draft', 'Sabertooth', 'ssj4chazou@hotmail.com', '208.110.243.116', 1, 0, '', 'Mass: I was able to follow what you said up to the part where you said the board was intelligent.<br /><br />Stats sound like a great way to just someones skill in theory, but its not. Lets think of my stats without looking at actually numbers I can already tell you they don&#039;t paint a very good picture. Over all stats or just even last seasons stats are and will be quite skew. Lets do over all my entire tenure here in the IDL. Oddly enough as great as I am the stats would say otherwise. Now lets take that trip down memory lane.<br /><br />Season 1 Game 1: The very beginning of this league. The stage is set, but wait where is Saber&#039;s chosen team. Oh that is absolutely right I forgot. They bailed on him and that is just super. Well lets just find some assholes that will play. Ralphis grabs his bother and Gollum. GL H...meh stalemated. <br /><br />Season 1 Game 2: Ok well this should be much better Saber has his team and a basic ideal of those who play under him and what they can do. What is this, could it be a twist of fate? Team number 2 has also bailed. Well good gollie fuck&#039;ola. The decision is made Saber will play by himself.(This wouldn&#039;t be the last time this happens either.) And yes boys and girls I actually scored in this game. (Still waiting on my IDL Hall of Fame wing.)<br /><br />P.S. I still made those silly little playoffs.<br /><br />[size=5][b]Now lets fast forward to last season. [/b][/size]<br /><br />DMR: Lets do a quick roll call for all the slow people out there.<br />Captain: Goatface Team: Clim Mid and yours truly<br />Check list time. <br />Smart capable captain: Check (For any of you that doubt this. Fuck off Goat actually can lead a team he just can&#039;t draft/ trade well.)<br />Roster: <br />Climhazzard: Holds a masterbowl win. (His skill level is in dispute at the moment.)<br />Midian: The guy is great when he is around. (He was around all season.)<br />Sabertooth: I&#039;m the best no doubt about it. <br />[b]CHECK[/b]<br /><br />Now lets check off everyone&#039;s connections and we&#039;ll be ready to have the best season ever.<br />Midian: Ideal (Check) <br />Climhazzard: Fair (Check) <br />Goatface: Hmm lacking but we can make do right (Check) <br />Sabertooth: Looks good...wait.....hmmmm.....the fuck.....is....this....(Che...)<br /><br />And that is just alittle bit of mine personally. So you can imagine how well everyone else is.<br /><br />DD is right whether he is just trying to jab mike or not. Stats are unbiased and cannot lie,but when fed basic and bad information. Well your sick puppies are going to start dieing. <br /><br />P.S. DD: I will never call you Xenaero. <br /><br />I&#039;m pretty sure having 5 well trained monkeys take a crack at trying to fuck your ego sounds much better.<br /><br />P.S. Sarcasm is healthy for you.<br /><br />P.S.S. I&#039;m still the best no doubt about it.<br />&nbsp; ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4505, 487, 16, 1312734199, 131, 4505, 'Re: IDL SUMMER 2011 ALLSTAR SELECTION', 'Gyrossman', 'mistero@seznam.cz', '89.103.39.137', 1, 0, '', '[color=blue][b]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/b][/color]<br />LordBritish<br />Ralphis<br />Nostar<br />turSKA<br />Xenaero<br /><br />[color=red][b]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/b][/color]<br />PotentPotables<br />Stallion<br />Humanbones<br />Mikehail<br />ThatsJustPrime', 'xx', 1);
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	(6319, 619, 20, 1330383426, 7, 6319, 'Re: yo yo', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '65.214.200.140', 1, 0, '', 'http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?topic=621.0', 'xx', 1);
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	(2220, 246, 1, 1281628077, 2, 2220, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.52.171', 1, 0, '', 'might as well back this up, lots of stuff disappearing recently :-\\<br /><br />[quote=&quot;AF-Domains.net&quot;]<br />However, before I get to that..a brief comment regarding this thread..<br /><br />It seems evident that any explanation regarding the Yo Yo part 2 thread going missing would be ignored, since that has apparently been confirmed, it seems that you cannot accept when an accident occurs..these things unfortunately happen.<br /><br />Just a shame you seem to make us out as being liars.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I am not really sure why the old thread wouldn&#039;t be recovered, it contained a good amount of ideas and would sort of prove it was an accident as explained.&nbsp; There was an incredibly well thought-out post by JKist3 which is really a shame to see disappear, he spelled everything correctly and addressed nearly every key issue in a respectful, professional manner.&nbsp; Perhaps it is that incredibly hard to retrieve a thread through the process phenex mentioned, that kilgore wouldn&#039;t bother to retrieve it simply to spite people who became upset.&nbsp; In a community of this size, it only seems logical that no matter what you do you will encounter some sort of disagreement, the question is whether you can move past that disagreement or become embroiled in it.<br /><br />[quote=&quot;Thadeuss&quot;]<br />1) What&#039;s to stop anyone from making a clan portal to ZD? One that posts clan news separately from ZD with all of he ideas mentioned in the previous thread? The answer is nothing.<br /><br />2) Nothing stops you from making tournaments&nbsp; to try and keep things going. You want to help the competitive side of ZD? Then get yourself to the appropriate tourney section and sign up for games; especially in Oceania and the US.<br /><br />3) You want freedom of speech? Start your own forum for ZD players to talk freely or make an irc channel or use a different IRC host.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />In all honesty, I think the IDL website fulfills all of these things more or less.&nbsp; While there is no clan news listed on the IDL site, there is plenty of IDL and doom related news posted and discussed there.&nbsp; Of course, the IDL is the longest running competitive portion of doom I can think of, encompassing a huge percent of the north american scene so much that official tournaments (in america) are having a rough time staying active.&nbsp; In europe things are going quite well, they also do not have a biannual ctf tournament like we do, perhaps that is why?&nbsp; Of course, IDL forums are about as free speech as you can get, located on irc.quakenet.org #idl and http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php I think I deleted a thread there once about, shoes or something (heresy!).<br /><br />I am simply trying to point out an obvious answer to another obvious problem, not somewhat irrationally talking about past occurrences or petty dramatic bullshit or what have you.&nbsp; The problem does exist, there have been quite a few new accounts made over at our forums which air a concern for being moderated or stifled for expressing their opinions, this is a pretty sad state of affairs.&nbsp; I understand there is a lot going on here and nobody really has the entire story, but nobody really wants to tell us the whole story.<br /><br />There are a few key issues here, first in my mind being Raider&#039;s absence.&nbsp; Whether or not he is even absent seems to be a question.&nbsp; I have never been able to get much out of him in the 3+ years I have been here and must say I pretty much gave up on ever contacting him.&nbsp; I had no idea he was still an administrator for this port, but perhaps I am missing something.&nbsp; Second, the tournaments portion of the site has been broken for how many years?&nbsp; Four?&nbsp; Gyrossman has done an [b]EXCELLENT[/b] job helping out the euro tournaments with his professional brackets and really let those guys explode into a swarm of activity.&nbsp; Third, I am not sure the clan portion of the site has ever been updated, why does it seem to be every problem I am addressing should only be good housekeeping practices?&nbsp; Fourth, this is a relatively new issue, longtime public server admins are beginning to feel alienated by proceedings here and more than just Ladna are considering pulling their servers, possibly indefinitely?&nbsp; By no means is this a threat, simply an insight into what looks to be a new problem.&nbsp; Totaltrash was a damn good server, now that it is no longer hosting public ctf, I pretty much don&#039;t see that packed north american public ctf server any more.<br /><br />Really the most important part is advertisement, I don&#039;t know much about that and it was already addressed previously, hire Fsn76 and he will make the most kickass zdaemon video ever imagined.<br /><br />This is not to say I don&#039;t enjoy Zdaemon quite a bit, backwards compatibility is the #1 reason I will always return to play here. No messy downloading or trying to figure out some crap when you just want to play and have some fun. It might be a little bit of a risk to post this here, but the other thread is basically a joke and it would be a waste of time to respond there. I may or may not have crossed into unmentionable topics in my post but I don&#039;t really care. If someone is going to get upset because I suggest solutions to problems they don&#039;t want to hear about or wish to ignore, then maybe you should ban me too and stick your head back into the sand, because I am not sure this is a game I wish to continue playing if a serious response cannot be maturely read and considered. (screw you nostar ill run all the way to indiana and back before i end my sentences!)', 'xx', 1);
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	(6320, 619, 20, 1330384836, 75, 6320, 'Re: yo yo', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '178.209.142.37', 1, 1330384948, 'dew', '[quote author=RustInPeace link=topic=619.msg6314#msg6314 date=1330375183]<br />*The Board<br />[/quote]<br />you were lurking in #idlb long enough to know the current board was never a monolythical entity. in fact it&#039;s a bag of feral cats and during the final weeks of the offseason period we screamed at each other for longer hours than even jenova can troll #idl. it was a very [i]bitter[/i] experience and every vote was like a fucking caesarian section done live.<br /><br />you know what? i am pissed off by the board as well, but for different reasons. we were often required to spend countless hours refining the wording of rules instead of solving game-related matters, just so we could plug a &quot;loophole&quot; spotted by our resident lawyer mass. i used quotes because they&#039;d never be considered loopholes if we managed to agree on the most basic premise everyone in this fucking game should follow - [b]uphold the spirit of the league and gamesmanship, not the most absurdly literal phrasing of the rules.[/b] we&#039;re not american judicial system.<br /><br />[quote]<br />*Lackluster and bad maps<br />[/quote]<br />what is this supposed to mean? bad maps in the wad or bad maps in the schedule? the board only picks maps for the wad, and you can go suck my dick regading that. the past wads were worse and there&#039;s no way you can objectively argue against that. schedule is picked by bones and i actually like the parts you hate. i&#039;m not going to insult you over that like you do vice versa, because i have already learned the lesson - people have different tastes and you need to balance your selection to cater to all of them at least partially. you won&#039;t win this battle with any reasonable administration, because this is idl, not rustctf, sorry.<br /><br />[quote]<br />*Players&#039; needs and wants falling on deaf ears<br />[/quote]<br />i think i can relate, however you&#039;d need to be concrete on this one. of course we dismissed anything jenova had to say - he was there just to mock us and never play anyways. there were other people bandwagoning on his train of thoughts, but you gotta pardon me and even the other board members (which at this point i&#039;m not trying to defend at all, just the good parts of the work we&#039;ve done), it&#039;s pretty hard to parse constructive criticism from immature skullfag trolling.<br /><br />[quote]<br />*Board members being complete dipshits on par with zd admins/staff<br />[/quote]<br />mass - a sleazebag politician/lawyer<br />star - a stalinesque totalitarian<br />xen - a bundle of rage waiting to explode<br />dew - always whining about everything<br />okay, i see your point. but you are wrong about mikehail, so shut up.<br /><br />[quote]<br />*Rules being changed mid-season<br />[/quote]<br />wasn&#039;t this just an emergency sort of patch to avoid further fuckups? the thing i didn&#039;t fully agree about was passing it through a board vote. in the past, it&#039;d go without a rule change and the commish or the board head would just roll in the server and decide on the spot. you can call it &quot;not changing the rules,&quot; but the fact is, there weren&#039;t rules for certain stuff and the executive powers just created them on the fly, so this is a bit unfair from your side.<br /><br />[quote]<br />*Total Trash<br />[/quote]<br />well, okay. but [i]where[/i] else? one of the captains will [i]always[/i] refuse MTL. in the scenario of no default server, this will lead to a giant bitchfest. [b]you[/b] in particular would refuse MTL in favour of TT, haha. and i&#039;m sorry, but beast&#039;s servers weren&#039;t even IDL-ready for a few weeks of the season (wrong dmflags and settings and whatnot), so they went unnoticed by many. i don&#039;t even know the IPs. what&#039;s your miraculous cure? surely not NJ, texan guy?<br /><br />[quote]<br />*Players nearly sneaking away with demo infractions<br />[/quote]<br />tbh i thought for the longest time we were going to turn over all WAD games, but some people claim ladna&#039;s upload system is still p buggy and you can&#039;t blame the players, so i dunno. shak had consistent bogus demo uploads, but afaik others had occassional duds too, so instead of murdering the season with overturning half of the past matches, people were allowed to reupload. or that&#039;s how i understand it? i dunno, i wasn&#039;t paying attention, because idl was already &quot;over&quot; for me.<br /><br />[quote]<br />*1000 versions of idl2012.wad<br />[/quote]<br />uh. dumb point to make. the most infamous chapter was caused by ralph&#039;s rogue behaviour. next.<br /><br />[quote]<br />*Map32<br />[/quote]<br />preach on, son.<br /><br />[quote]<br />*The Board<br />[/quote]<br />dipshits. never did anything right. i kinda miss the constructive, helpful rust from #idlb.<br /><br />[quote]<br />*Humanbones (lol&nbsp; :P)<br />[/quote]<br />what the fuck are you talking about, you fucking redneck piece of shit? bones is constantly getting undermined by mass and star, so just because he doesn&#039;t strongarm them into silence and a premature league split, you shouldn&#039;t get a free pass to sling mud at him.<br /><br />[quote]<br />This might be the last season for a lot of players and it may even be the last season of the IDL depending on certain factors (nutshell: some[s]one[/s] masochist who wants to clean up this mess).<br />[/quote]<br />or it might be the last season of the IDL [i]as we know it![/i] *hint, hint*<br /><br />[quote]<br />1. All the above points are the board&#039;s fault<br />[/quote]<br />it&#039;s actually true. the past board voted in the current members and this board is split in a neverending standoff. i used to scream about &quot;the clique&quot; ever since... august and people were like surely you jest. i doubt anyone would bother to argue against it now.<br /><br />the most obvious, painful example is the movement to replace mikehail on the board, because he&#039;s &quot;leaving.&quot; since... september or so. the thing is, the board votes on the new members, so the past boards were dumb enough to vote in me, mass, xen and star in this order, if you can believe that. now mike has been saying he doesn&#039;t have the time for IDL anymore, so he wants to be replaced. and this is where the board splits into two stubborn cliques that won&#039;t budge. basically, there&#039;s star, mass and mike himself who want either ladna or lb to replace mike and no one else, period. this makes me and xen roll around in fits of emitting [i]liquid rage[/i] through our every pore, because it&#039;s nothing else but consolidating power for the tt group, ltd. in 3-2 cases bones decides and he&#039;s on our side, so we&#039;re locked in 3-3. just so you know, some candidates refused by the nostar group on basis that they aren&#039;t better fit than ladna or lb: prime (our first choice), ralphis, rust (i sorely regret nominating him now), saber.<br /><br />[quote]<br />2. They have no feelings and are heartless fucks<br />[/quote]<br />i cried sweet tears of joy after your mom sucked my balls dry. then we went through your kid&#039;s first photo album and cuddled.<br /><br />[quote]<br />3. Offensive statements won&#039;t affect them<br />[/quote]<br />your mom had to console me with a blueberry pie and a blowjob after i read this cruel statement.<br /><br />[quote]<br />4. They deserve it<br />[/quote]<br />that&#039;s what your mom said when i pulled out and it splashed over a photo of you and strangle.<br /><br />[quote]<br />weeks 5-9.<br />[/quote]<br />subjective, next.<br /><br />[quote]<br />First you have 3 old ass shitty zd maps,<br />[/quote]<br />yet you whine about getting rid of other antique pieces like map30. bah. also to be completely honest, i really wanted your contest map in the schedule, but my voice isn&#039;t strong enough in the board.<br /><br />[quote]<br />next week we get optically raped. Of course the reason why we will get raped is because 4/5 of the board said so.<br />[/quote]<br />i&#039;m really, truly sorry about that. :(<br /><br /><br />[quote]<br />Xenaero made a topic polling players what they preferred: map28 2 or 6 spawns, map32 original or Ralphis&#039; textures. Even though the poll results favored 2 spawn 28 and Ralphis&#039; textures, we got 6 spawns and mspaint textures.<br />[/quote]<br />the problem with the poll was it came [i]after[/i] we already voted on the matter and works on the wad were in progress. i&#039;d still prefer obliging the poll, but: the vote on map28 2s vs 6s was decided by a 10 vs. 7 majority? that&#039;s not a very decisive people&#039;s wish, your presidents won with less. :) i won&#039;t even dignify the map32 textures thing with a reply, because i&#039;m seeping with hate and eyesore.<br /><br />[quote]<br />Interestingly enough Ralphis, who is nothing more than a captain officially, made an idl wad that contained what the players wanted.<br />[/quote]<br />this is a pathetic appeal to the anti-administration movement. we let ralphis do the wad, because he&#039;d always done it. i don&#039;t know how the fuck you missed that little fact. it was out of respect to him, you fucking rick perry dicksucker. ralph himself admits he chose to ignore the board decisions and created a wad that combined some board stuff and some of his own choices. even the bones-clique (bones/me/xen) was unhappy with this, because he chose to ignore some of things [i]we[/i] managed to put through. ralph&#039;s rogue action unified the board for a while.<br /><br />[quote]<br />Plus, his wad didn&#039;t destroy map04<br />[/quote]<br />well, the thing is... it was one of his early betas that created the HOMs. mass took over editing the wad and he didn&#039;t catch up on the fixes and used an earlier ralph version. it was a fuckup, but you surely abuse the situation to your advantage.<br /><br />[quote]<br />and it was the first version to include past MasterBowl maps (mb01-10).<br />[/quote]<br />this was a thing mutually agreed on by the board, bones and ralph. you can&#039;t steal it for ralph himself just to make the board look bad.<br /><br />[quote]<br />Also it&#039;s worth mentioning that the proctf map (which doesn&#039;t work on zd at all in its original state) was properly play tested on Skulltag! rofl, I guess we could play test some ZDoom Wars map and it&#039;ll be IDL ready!<br />[/quote]<br />oh, the smug arrogance! you&#039;d be right at home as a board member, you fucking dickwad. that map is perfectly fine. ask some better zdaemon players than you, like whiteboy.<br /><br />[quote]<br />The removal of map07 and map30 and possibly map32 of the 2011 wad was also dumb. I personally don&#039;t give a shit about old 32, but 07 and 30 were [u]good for the IDL[/u]. However tried and true maps like those two were [u]removed[/u] for jokes like that shitty Christmas map and the stupid rad suit/hidden sphere map. Oh wells, let&#039;s move on.<br />[/quote]<br />they weren&#039;t removed [i]for[/i] the particular maps you mentioned. there was a vote for removing maps, then there was a multi-round vote to put maps in. i pushed for map-for-map replacement, but that was mostly symbolic, because we already had the lists. you don&#039;t understand the selection process, apparently. do i wish 07 stayed in? yeah. but why don&#039;t you mention we also replaced UTTER FUCKING SHIT like old map06? because it&#039;d look worse for your arguments to say we replaced pro19 for mad06? go eat a dick, you scumbag.<br /><br />[quote]<br />Jenova getting banned from TT<br />[/quote]<br />he&#039;s an obnoxious motherfucker and i don&#039;t care. he just keeps pushing you and he&#039;s not in the IDL anymore, so why care about him so much? he is in it just for the trolling.<br /><br />[quote]<br />Mikehail not leaving SUC&#039;s practice session<br />[/quote]<br />tbh, i hate this behaviour too. i&#039;d leave as soon as the practicing cap asked me to do so.<br /><br />[quote]<br />Xenaero single-handedly destroying MAD&#039;s season (Maybe only applies to DoomGuy lol D: )<br />[/quote]<br />none of your fucking business, dipshit. how is that related to the board? what if mass &quot;destroyed&quot; your season by not submitting a 3rd demo and getting annihilated? last season i was on a team destroyed by naut&#039;s idiocy and i don&#039;t see you nailing [i]him[/i] to the cross. please, separate administration from playing, k?<br /><br />[quote]<br />Dew abusing rcon during a priv session and kicking Tai for no appropriate reason<br /><br />(lengthy explanation)<br />[/quote]<br />you know, after years of getting slapped around by nostar, i actually did the same - i decided priv was not the same thing as IDL (because it is not) and i lashed against tai, who was mocking me. i abused rcon, [b]go ahead and take it from me[/b], it&#039;s not necessary for me to have it anyways. also you are lying in part, i left immediatelly after kicking him, because i didn&#039;t want to play anymore, so i wasn&#039;t delaying anything. still, i&#039;ll gladly let go of any rcon powers i might have over any idl servers and i will leave the board if the public think i am a malignant element because of this incident. also tai is a fucking moron.<br /><br />[quote]<br />So in closing, fuck you.<br />[/quote]<br />thank you for being a dick.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2233, 248, 12, 1281735883, 16, 2233, 'Re: Co-MVPs', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '99.30.124.30', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=248.msg2232#msg2232 date=1281735017]<br /><br />All stars especially is basically a popularity contest and you usually see the same people voted in or not voted in each season.&nbsp; SPE seems a superbly unpopular team.&nbsp; Teams such as KGB who had a worse record still got tons more votes than SPE players.&nbsp; Of course when you see people like Quik, Fluffles, and Clim getting votes it is pretty obvious it&#039;s not about skills or contributions.<br />[/quote]<br /> <br />Well, SPE was only one game better than KGB in the regular season, and didn&#039;t make the playoffs, just saying...', 'xx', 1);
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	(3807, 410, 14, 1300336147, 8, 3807, 'Re: Free wins....', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '75.67.12.148', 1, 0, '', 'I TOTALLY WOULD HAVE LOCKED THIS BY NOW ON ZD FORUMS<br /><br />I actually feel like the best thing would be for everyone to shut the fuck up. Nostar can be a douchebag just like the rest of you can be, including myself! I missed 3 whole pages of this piece of shit thread, but I just see a bunch of annoying people whining. Don&#039;t do stupid stuff on other peoples servers and you probably won&#039;t get banned.<br /><br />Also i love Ladna hes funny and A PRETTY GOOD GUY', 'xx', 1);
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	(3122, 357, 1, 1293593411, 1322, 3122, 'Re: Kilgore Klassics', 'SwiftShot', 'markwwfc1992@hotmail.com', '82.30.151.199', 1, 1293593487, 'nostar', '&lt;Kilgore&gt;	seems to me we have a problem again<br />&lt;SwiftShot&gt;	huh?<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	that&#039;s abotu the umteenth time<br />&lt;SwiftShot&gt;	what have i done now?<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	i&#039;m not gonna argue man<br />&lt;SwiftShot&gt;	what do you mean<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	next time shit happens, don&#039;t even bother coming in here<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	you&#039;ll be master banend<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	banned<br />&lt;SwiftShot&gt;	honestly i dont have a clue<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	have a gn<br />&lt;SwiftShot&gt;	what you mean<br />&lt;SwiftShot&gt;	?<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	it&#039;s ok<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	bye<br />&lt;SwiftShot&gt;	what?<br />&lt;SwiftShot&gt;	are you talking about<br />&lt;SwiftShot&gt;	?<br />&lt;SwiftShot&gt;	are you honestly going to say that without telling me what i have done<br />&lt;SwiftShot&gt;	seriously?<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	what&#039;s the point? we&#039;ll be arguing till kingdom come<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	the point is.. yuo don&#039;t like this place<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	you don&#039;t like us<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	so why the fuck are you around?<br />&lt;SwiftShot&gt;	i dont even know what the hell your talking about<br />&lt;SwiftShot&gt;	what have i done?<br />&lt;SwiftShot&gt;	or said?<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	don&#039;t push it. and leave&nbsp; me alone<br />&lt;SwiftShot&gt;	please tell/quote me<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	otherwise you&#039;ll be gone right now<br />&lt;SwiftShot&gt;	what the<br /><br /> :)', 'xx', 1);
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	(3235, 372, 3, 1294963888, 157, 3235, 'Re: Hiya', 'Legion_', 'theomegaantin00b@gmail.com', '71.115.99.7', 1, 0, '', 'I tried being known as &quot;manixa&quot; on zd but that fell through the fucking floor, so just don&#039;t even bother with that kind of thing', 'xx', 1);
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	(3528, 388, 14, 1297890321, 19, 3528, 'Re: Pre-Pre-Post-Season Predictions Predictions', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.7.85', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ralphis link=topic=388.msg3522#msg3522 date=1297816661]<br />Try and do better than you did in week 1 ok<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Hmm...', 'xx', 1);
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	(3619, 398, 14, 1299127406, 213, 3623, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '75.186.106.4', 1, 1299144066, 'nostar', '[b]Rookie of the Season[/b]<br /><br />I agree that if Rookie of the Season is to mean N00B of the season, then Rust and TurSKA hardly qualify, although both are outstanding players.&nbsp; This leaves only two rookies who aren&#039;t me: Higgs and Prime.&nbsp; Higgs&#039; shortcomings are clearly due to the fact that he plays too much Quake--this guy plays Motherfuckin Quake, you know what I&#039;m sayin?--he moves slowly and thoughtfully with a minimum of spammy bullshit.&nbsp; In spite of this terrible handicap, he has performed similarly to TurSKA as a runner and provided EBL with the much-needed offensive flavor they needed to enter the play-offs.&nbsp; <br /><br />ThatsJustPrime is not exactly new to ZDaemon.&nbsp; He&#039;s been an imperial warrior for a couple of years, and was drafted (based on his past performance) in the 3rd round right after Mandolore (a former clan-mate) to play sub-in 3rd for the Chiantis-(D)X powerhouse.&nbsp; When he suddenly demonstrated that he was not only much better than Mandy, but possibly better than Chain and Mantis, he was immediately made a permanent player.&nbsp; In fact, the three players in SPE&#039;s lineup are so powerful that I&#039;m very surprised they couldn&#039;t make it to the play-offs this season.&nbsp; We certainly could never beat them.<br /><br />What Higgs, Prime, and I all have in common is that we were all 4th&#039;s who became our team&#039;s 3rd&#039;s.<br /><br />[i]Prime[/i]<br /><br />[b]Captain of the Season[/b]<br /><br />Captain of the Season should go to the captain who puts the most time and effort into practicing with and coaching his team, and the one who makes the most out of the draft order, free agency availability, and draft mistakes (Metal, Shakal, Bloodstrike at that time, etc.) he was dealt.&nbsp; Ralphis has done a great job, but he has one of the best line-ups in the league behind him.&nbsp; Goatface has interestingly assembled a team that does better without him than with him (no offense), which is rare.&nbsp; But I think Hatred has put the most time and effort into his team this season, and it has shown.&nbsp; Even with his wife getting her hurr did left and right and seven mulatto babies dangling from his diamond-studded JAMIE necklace, farting all over him, he&#039;s still on at 1, 2 AM every night spamming for EBL practice.&nbsp; That&#039;s dedication.<br /><br />[i]Hatred[/i]<br /><br />[b]Comeback of the Season[/b]<br /><br />I take this to mean player who was good and then not-so-good and then good again.&nbsp; In that case, and because this is a stupid category, I hereby sanction a three-way tie.&nbsp; Bloodstrike and Rottking were both the Pre-Fastidious Satan&#039;s Anus Ungodly Fraggers of Zdaemon.&nbsp; Back when points were just frags, breaking 100 was a big achievement for somebody, but Rott and Blood both did it on a regular basis.&nbsp; After a few seasons, either they got worse or everyone else got better, but they seemed to fade into the fabric of IDL.&nbsp; But now they&#039;re back and fraggier than ever.&nbsp; They might be two of the fraggiest fraggots I&#039;ve ever been splattered by.&nbsp; Killingblair, on the other hand, is not so much known for fragging as he is for doing everything.&nbsp; Only, in the past few seasons, he has been outshone by flashier players, and frankly we were all a little surprised when bones picked him as the 5th draft (YOU COULD HAVE HAD LB! OR MIEK! YOU DRUNKEN IDIOT!), but then something happened.&nbsp; And that something is called Denver.&nbsp; And it filled Blair with such a furious rage that he wasn&#039;t just able to dodge bullets...&nbsp; he didn&#039;t have to.<br /><br />[i]A 3-Way Tai: Bloodstrike,Rottking, and Killingblair[/i]<br /><br />[b]Underrated Player of the Season[/b]<br /><br />One easy way to quantify this category is to see which players were drafted long after they should have been: LordBritish, joshsmith, me (ahahah). But seriously though folks.&nbsp; Two people come to mind:<br /><br />When Rooster traded Saber and Midian for Star and DJ Noob, some people said he was an idiot because Noob sux.&nbsp; But, as it turns out, he kind of doesn&#039;t suck.&nbsp; I have found him to be quite the pain in the ass whenever I play against him, and he seems to have a little finesse hidden somewhere deep inside of his personality.<br /><br />The real doormat of the IDL, however, is Legion.&nbsp; Apparently Legion is grown, intelligent, and most importantly, not as bad at Doom as everybody acts like he is.&nbsp; In this season especially, he has taken great strides in his playing abilities, and has proven himself to be a competent runner at least.<br /><br />[i]Legion[/i]<br /> <br />[b]Most Valuable Player of the Season[/b]<br /><br />If most valuable means best, then I think Ralphis, Nostar, Jenova, and Stallion would all be in the running, and that that would be a very boring category indeed, and roughly the same players would win every season.&nbsp; If however, as Star suggested, most valuable means most valuable to one&#039;s team, then mikehail wins hands down.&nbsp; Fnordic Kniners without Miekhial would be like Kimmel without Carolla; like Biden without Obama; like Katy Perry without an autotuner and a boob job.&nbsp; He plays defense, mid, offense, floater, spawncamper, and RTFer for KNF, while stringle and collusion run around headless, spinning, clucking and molting all over the map.<br /><br />[i]Mikehail[/i]<br /><br /><br />I want Kenneth to talk about me.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(3798, 410, 14, 1300331485, 7, 3798, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '38.109.187.5', 1, 0, '', 'Xenaero........ don&#039;t make me take yr name off the IDL credits footer...................<br /><br />Jenova: Oh Nostar beat me, I had a whole thing typed out.&nbsp; Well, our server is definitely over-provisioned, you&#039;re right about that.&nbsp; We could probably run almost 100 ZD servers or something ridiculous.&nbsp; Like Nostar says, we try to give ourselves as much headroom as is reasonable, because who the fuck knows why ZDaemon lags when it lags.<br /><br />You can get real cheap dedicated servers, but you&#039;ll find out that they&#039;re actually in Wabash, Indiana or something.&nbsp; We actually found a company in South Bend, Indiana with a &quot;direct, redundant fiber link to Chicago&#039;s Equinix Exchange&quot;, so we tried it.&nbsp; It turns out this fiber link goes through Lake Michigan or something, because every 4-5 seconds your ping goes from 14 to 14000.&nbsp; We rofl&#039;d pretty hard... and then cancelled that shit.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4055, 433, 16, 1305554169, 213, 4055, 'Re: The Draft', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '192.200.128.45', 1, 0, '', 'http://www.twainquotes.com/Statistics.html', 'xx', 1);
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	(4506, 488, 16, 1312737186, 158, 4506, 'Re: week 9 dmc vs. dmr incident', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '173.206.1.87', 1, 0, '', 'Someone complaining about the other team giving them a chance and one of their members accidentally joining (even when technically they were supposed to). What will you think of to complain about next?', 'xx', 1);
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	(4529, 489, 17, 1312852711, 0, 4529, 'Re: Forfeits, etc.', 'Fastidious', '', '75.4.137.116', 1, 0, '', 'Any chance the IDL site could give specify who won the forfeit, right now it just says forfeit and that&#039;s confusing when there are a lot of them in a season.&nbsp; Also Ladna stop holding the IDL hostage for you to play, haha!', 'xx', 1);
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	(7078, 687, 22, 1340274790, 2257, 7078, 'Free Agents/Trade History Discussion', 'Shogun', 'CHAOSCyberCat666@yahoo.com', '23.29.8.118', 1, 0, '', 'Doubt KGB is going to go anywhere with How Tai has been playing lately but who knows&nbsp; :-\\', 'xx', 1);
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	(7921, 765, 25, 1355530017, 214, 7921, 'Re: hey', 'RustInPeace', 'sindeception@yahoo.com', '65.68.74.69', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;m the 8th cap', 'xx', 1);
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	(7406, 716, 17, 1346514612, 2311, 7510, 'Re: SECOND SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'FrankTheTank', 'frankdt1234@gmail.com', '65.78.62.158', 1, 1346889429, 'FrankTheTank', '[s]http://www.speedyshare.com/3EbXQ/idlsubmiss-Blue-Tosen-Frank-v1.wad<br />(or if that doesn&#039;t work http://www26.zippyshare.com/v/16295392/file.html)[/s]<br /><br />This wad was released.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8353, 827, 17, 1360818374, 8, 8353, 'Someone else quits', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@intldoomleague.org', '108.207.0.195', 1, 0, '', 'I don&#039;t enjoy making gossip posts, but I thought this would be a good place to vent my (continued) frustration this season. Apparently, despite seeing firsthand everything the league has gone through this season, and despite being a captain and an idl board member, SoulSucka has decided to quit. [b]Without telling anyone. Including me.[/b]<br /><br />Let&#039;s set the record straight; Fluffles messaged Soul the gametime on skype, and he replied that he quit. Not only was SoulSucka someone who was questioned by many people to be a good captain, but the same goes for his spot on the IDL Board. Of course I didn&#039;t pay much attention to those people, I thought he was a good choice. I ignored what people said and gave the kid a chance. And he quits, without even having the decency to tell me. It&#039;s really frustrating for me to run a league with the lack of respect a lot of people show. I just wanted to call him out on it, and hopefully you will too. That is bullshit. I&#039;m pissed off. Fuck you.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8343, 823, 25, 1360567018, 213, 8343, 'Re: Week 6 - IDLCONT2013-03: Untitled (FEB 11 - FEB 17) - Discussion and Results', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '97.92.40.97', 1, 0, '', 'I hereby name this map &quot;Dirt Nap.&quot;', 'xx', 1);
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	(8282, 815, 17, 1360371970, 0, 8282, 'LIMITATION??', 'Soul Sucka', '', '177.42.98.214', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Legion_ link=topic=811.msg8275#msg8275 date=1360367038]now, in zandronum (wbuild 1.3 anyway), the ssg&#039;s spread is [i]vanilla[/i] and it still will only land a pellet or two on a retreating enemy around 45-50% of the time. in odamex, zdaemon, and whatever else is like it, the shots [i][b]don&#039;t even land at all[/b][/i]. [b]this[/b] is what I&#039;m referring to that should be fixed or given an option to opt out of[/quote]<br />Wow... Seriously? Well, I&#039;ve seen enough stupidity from your end, so I am not surprised that you were alienated to the point of thinking that WBuild is the messiah of Doom competition.<br /><br />I&#039;d rather not derail this into a WBuild bashing thread. However... You are basing your reasoning for requesting longer ranges solely on the behavior of a newschool port mod. It is simply ridiculous you would consider it more vanilla than ZDaemon and Odamex (the latter is also open sourced, so you can actually see for yourself how things work instead of just going by what others told you).', 'xx', 1);
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	(2202, 244, 12, 1281373930, 15, 2202, 'Re: IDL S2010 Wildcard Playoffs (Aug 2 - Aug 8.)', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.97.218', 1, 0, '', '[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDW0ZnZxjn4&amp;feature=related]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDW0ZnZxjn4&amp;feature=related[/url]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3120, 352, 14, 1293592825, 46, 3122, 'Re: ALERT: OFFICIAL WINTER 2011 IDL-R SCHEDULE RELEASE', 'Roscoe', 'dalekcomander@gmail.com', '174.25.27.19', 1, 1293596660, 'Roscoe', 'I&#039;d love to see this reserve league flourish.&nbsp; I&#039;m no cap, but I&#039;ll do all I can to help get my team psyched and synced, and perhaps some of the others, too. ;)<br /><br />Just for the sake of convenience I&#039;d like to see all the teams and their caps/members listed in the original post.&nbsp; Would be handy to have *some* kind of official lineup!<br />[u]<br />[b]Splash Damage Dolphins<br />[/b][/u]<br />Coach: Sabertooth<br /><br />Roscoe<br />Swiftshot&nbsp; &nbsp; <br />Treky&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br />HydrasFire <br /><br />[u][b]Splatterday Saints[/b][/u]<br /><br />Coach: Killingblair<br /><br />Killforce<br />Propane&nbsp; <br />Capodecima <br />Fluffles <br /><br />[u][b]Spreehawks[/b][/u]<br /><br />Coach: Beast<br /><br />Tavion&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  <br />Rexn0r&nbsp; &nbsp;  <br />Junior <br />SandBlaster<br /><br />[u][b]Hot Wax Bengals[/b][/u]<br /><br />Coach: Lordbritish<br /><br />Souler <br />Ten(chu)&nbsp; &nbsp;  <br />Asgar&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br />Quiksilver <br />[u][b]<br />Bang Broncos[/b][/u]<br /><br />Coach: mikehail<br /><br />Mobius&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  <br />Hydra (RedShirt)&nbsp;  <br />Devisin&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br />Nazz&nbsp; &nbsp;  <br /><br />[u][b]Tourettes Skins[/b][/u]<br /><br />Coach/Captain/Player: Godsdoomer<br /><br /> Acolyte <br />Reaver <br />Fleshwizard<br /><br />Edit: Mike pointed out I forgot the Tourettes Skins.&nbsp; Thank you, mike.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3236, 372, 3, 1294965716, 10, 3236, 'Re: Hiya', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Legion_ link=topic=372.msg3235#msg3235 date=1294963888]<br />I tried being known as &quot;manixa&quot; on zd but that fell through the fucking floor, so just don&#039;t even bother with that kind of thing<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Except you spent like two years as Legion on zd so', 'xx', 1);
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	(3620, 398, 14, 1299129687, 49, 3620, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '216.164.140.107', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=nostar link=topic=398.msg3617#msg3617 date=1299120018]<br />Blood, sign up next season!<br />[/quote]<br />This.<br /><br />Also thank nostar and denver for my performance as of late, and also lb for teaching me how to rage', 'xx', 1);
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	(4056, 433, 16, 1305555048, 19, 4056, 'Re: The Draft', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.249.152', 1, 0, '', 'thats me in that pic', 'xx', 1);
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	(4170, 438, 16, 1307668391, 8, 4170, 'Re: S2011 FREE AGENTS - TRADE HISTORY - WAIVER WIRE', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '96.233.70.75', 1, 0, '', '[b]Sexual Panthers[/b]<br />Traded Tobi to Free Agency for Soul Sucka (Week 1)', 'xx', 1);
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	(4636, 483, 16, 1314405762, 209, 4636, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'AlexMax', 'alexmax2742@gmail.com', '174.108.2.107', 1, 0, '', 'Here&#039;s revision B including all contest maps up to now:<br /><br />http://www.mediafire.com/?c40ntgi033if7js<br /><br />Contains 19 maps.<br /><br />Changelog:<br />* Fast updated his map.<br />* Dusk updated both his maps.<br />* I updated one of my maps.<br />* X-Ray gave me some tunes for his second entry.<br />* There&#039;s one new map from Spirit Soldier.<br />* There&#039;s also two new maps from MassVC.', 'xx', 1);
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	(7079, 673, 17, 1340275300, 2257, 7079, 'Re: is odamex ready for idl competition?', 'Shogun', 'CHAOSCyberCat666@yahoo.com', '23.29.8.118', 1, 0, '', 'tbh here i think the Transition to odamex from zDaemon is the right way to go considering wat odamex as to offer now for the IDL, where as Zandronum/Skulltag realy isent the place for the IDL in my mind but as i always say who the hell know&#039;s ', 'xx', 1);
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	(6914, 673, 17, 1338070928, 2271, 6914, 'Re: is odamex ready for idl competition?', 'Dr. Sean', 'grandpachuck187@gmail.com', '76.14.137.245', 1, 0, '', 'Ok, time for me to address a few items that players have noticed and give some background info on them and what a player can do to change the behavior or possibly what the dev-team needs to do to help mitigate it in the future...<br /><br />[quote author=Sabertooth]been seeing a delay in shots from this so called unlagged which i assume is to accommodate for higher ping players yet seeing it when no high ping players are playing[/quote]<br /><br />This can happen when [i]sv_ticbuffer[/i] is enabled on the server and a player has a brief spike in their latency (often happens on wifi).&nbsp; [i]sv_ticbuffer[/i] will hold input commands from players in a buffer and use one each tic.&nbsp; This does a great job of preventing other players from skipping around on your screen.&nbsp; The negative is when you&#039;re the one that would normally be skipping since it means your input commands get delayed and you don&#039;t fire as quickly as you&#039;re used to.<br /><br />What you can do: the buffer is cleared every time you die so the delay is only temporary.&nbsp; The server also allows you to catch up to normal latency if you stand still (yeah... not too likely) or if you are out of the view of any players for a couple seconds.<br /><br />What we can do: I can reduce the maximum buffer size, which means you would have less total delay even if you do have a big latency spike.&nbsp; The negative of this is that players with bad connections may skip more.&nbsp; This is something that has to be fine-tuned with play-testing.<br /><br /><br />[quote author=dew]the ingame wad downloading easily surpasses zdaemon&#039;s radar and skulltag&#039;s medals for the worst feature ever[/quote]<br /><br />Heh, That&#039;s a kick in the dick!&nbsp; In-game downloading speeds are limited by [i]sv_maxrate[/i] on the server and [i]rate[/i] on the client.&nbsp; This is typically 200kbps by default but can be increased.&nbsp; I&#039;d encourage server admins that have a lot of bandiwidth to increase [i]sv_maxrate[/i] and [i]sv_waddownloadcap[/i] to 600 or higher.&nbsp; If you do have a good connection, increase [i]rate[/i] on your client to 600 or higher too.<br /><br />We will be taking a serious look at http downloading for the 0.6.x/0.7 series of releases to help download speeds as well as looking at adding support for ZIP archives.<br /><br /><br />[quote author=dew]they NEED feedback from intensive testing and they won&#039;t get it unless we use oda intensively.[/quote]<br /><br />VERY TRUE.<br /><br /><br />[quote author=ItalianStallion]Also I noticed the close quarters shots, no I don&#039;t mean short range, I mean legitimately face to face shots are kind of funky[/quote]<br /><br />Your client processes your input commands and moves your player on its own (called prediction) and then corrects your position if it gets a message from the server sometime later disagreeing about your position.&nbsp; When you bump into another player, these disagreements (or mis-predictions) occur and it essentially means that the server thinks you&#039;re in a different position than your screen shows.&nbsp; Instead of instantly jerking you to the correct position, Odamex 0.6 gradually moves you to the correct position over a few tics, which is less jarring visually.&nbsp; The negative of this is that your screen briefly does not show you at an accurate position.<br /><br />What you can do:&nbsp; Setting [i]cl_prednudge[/i] to 1.0 will instantly jerk you to the correct position, giving you the most accurate position possible, at the expense of some disorientation if you&#039;re not expecting it.<br /><br />[quote author=ItalianStallion]Also the renderer, jittering textures, and [lindefs?] getting all distorted when standing on them.[/quote]<br /><br />Fixing that will be a big project for us but it&#039;s something I would like to tackle in the near future.&nbsp; The problems are due to the inaccurate methods that Doom (and ZDoom up to 1.22) use to calculate fractional numbers.&nbsp; Randy improved it some in ZDoom 1.23 but we cannot directly use that code as it&#039;s not GPL compatible.<br /><br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(8344, 823, 25, 1360589982, 2084, 8344, 'Re: Week 6 - IDLCONT2013-03: Untitled (FEB 11 - FEB 17) - Discussion and Results', 'EmZee712', 'Aishiteru712@yahoo.com', '98.218.137.45', 1, 0, '', 'Even thats a understatement<br /><br />I&#039;ll be having my blanket, pillow and teddy bear on stand by for a mid-match nap', 'xx', 1);
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	(8354, 827, 17, 1360818876, 19, 8354, 'Re: Someone else quits', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '184.1.248.204', 1, 0, '', 'Well, that&#039;s not cool.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8425, 827, 17, 1361002035, 4, 8425, 'Re: Someone else quits', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '50.88.51.175', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Mobius link=topic=827.msg8359#msg8359 date=1360824309]<br />[quote author=HumanBones link=topic=827.msg8353#msg8353 date=1360818374]<br /> I just wanted to call him out on it, and hopefully you will too. That is bullshit. I&#039;m pissed off. Fuck you.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />[list]<br />[*]Tenchu<br />[*]Doomguy<br />[*]Nautilus<br />[*]Multiple teams forfeiting since season 10<br />[/list]<br /><br />Yet you wanna call Soul out? I don&#039;t agree with him about this as much as you, and I implored him right after his game with Rust to stay (which I guess worked?) but dude.. fuck off. You have other people to call out publicly.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I&#039;m touched that I was the first name to come to your mind. :3', 'xx', 1);
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	(2207, 246, 1, 1281408317, 130, 2207, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'Okay a few things I guess.<br /><br />1.) There is significant crosswind going on between some of the things happening on this forum, and some of the things happening here: http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?topic=246<br />I encourage all of you to read through both threads if you&#039;re trying to follow any of this. You should do this not only because it&#039;s interesting but also because some people who can&#039;t post here post there! It actually might behoove some of the staff to check that out and see what people are mentioning, as there are reputable people commenting there under with some degree of anonymity. I&#039;m a pretty reasonable mod and if anyone comes in just to troll I am the first to edit their post with the message &quot;wow i&#039;m such a fag and need to rethink my approach&quot;. Ask Stallion. There is more cursing there, fair warning.<br /><br />2.) The idea of having a new moderator for ZDIRC and ZDForums is a great one. I have talked to raider maybe once in my 3 or 4 years of zdaemon and it was basically him calling me a liar and telling me to go away. I don&#039;t have anything against him really except that when I wanted to discuss, granted very touchy issues, there was no conversation, just a dead end. That sucked.<br /><br />And boy do I agree that it shouldn&#039;t fall totally on Kilgore to code everything, respond to everything and moderate everything. When I can I bother Domains instead of Kilgore, maybe to avoid taxing him but MOSTLY because I feel like he&#039;s difficult to reason with. That might be because he&#039;s overworked! But when interacting with people who want to make ZDaemon better, being difficult isn&#039;t an ideal quality. No offense intended. <br /><br />3.) Kist that was as nice as I&#039;ve ever heard you. Nice post! I feel like a lot of the things you said should be heeded for future interactions, as I can still smell the bridges burning from that past few. I will add though that it frustrates me that moderators aren&#039;t nominated by the community, which they should be! Thad is a great choice, but he should be one of a few. That way there is a community interest at the table in, or maybe at least in the ears of the developer..(s). I can remember being pretty much disgusted when Kilgore wrote that he had no want or intention of supporting IDL. Someone needs to be able to talk to the developers and tell them that their positions is wrong, or that they really need to reconsider. In this instance, that competitive leagues on ZDaemon, run by the administration or not, are a very very good thing. ZDDL is awesome, IDL is awesome, ECL was awesome, Vendetta was a ton of fun...for me anyway. None of those things were supported or sponsored by ZDaemon in any meaningful way, if only because there isn&#039;t any active administrator to sponsor...anything.<br /><br />-The people currently running Tournaments are IDL players.<br />-ZDS has become a ghost town which is unfortunate.<br />-All clan related anything is dead and has been for years.<br /><br />Integrate please. Get and active mod to start leagues and team tourneys There are (and were) people wanting, willing and asking to do good things for this community. Let them and put down your nay-saying. If something bad happens like...someone is less trustworthy than they appeared, move on. It&#039;s just a game and nothing really harmful comes from letting new people in. So what if some guy who writes news pages decides one day to bash the admins. Ban him for gayness and move on.<br /><br />All that being said, I&#039;m kind of jaded by a lot of this. I think that the North America scene is pretty much all around either in IDL or Mexican/Peruvian/Argentinian. Nothing against that but I just don&#039;t enjoy all the binds and dumbness.<br /><br />I guess I don&#039;t have a point I just wanted to post and say how nice Jkist came off. Good post kisto!', 'xx', 1);
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	(3123, 346, 14, 1293601301, 17, 3123, 'Re: Winter 2011 Draft Recording', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '98.228.219.91', 1, 0, '', 'Unless I got a song dedicated to me I&#039;m not downloading shit.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2209, 246, 1, 1281480239, 30, 2209, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'Beast', 'kjolly@uwm.edu', '70.92.140.141', 1, 0, '', 'Well Ladna I&#039;m sorry to see TT pub go, and I&#039;m also sorry to see you stop contributing, I was hoping eventually to get your programs running on Rampage also.<br /><br />The stats shit is 1337. I&#039;m not gonna give up yet and I hope you would change your mind.While I am capable of hosting all that stuff you dropped I&#039;m not around enough to keep up. <br /><br />I was hoping to bring you and cab on board to help with the updates and server requests. ...<br /><br />For whats its worth thanks to you and nostar and jkist for the time and money......even though i hate you all...8) fags fags fags....just trying to see if you will lock this thread..lol j/k', 'xx', 1);
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	(2210, 246, 1, 1281482017, 7, 2210, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'Rofl, thanks Beast.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3237, 372, 3, 1294969375, 147, 3237, 'Re: Hiya', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.35.212', 1, 0, '', 'and your forum name is legion', 'xx', 1);
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	(3621, 398, 14, 1299129713, 69, 3621, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'Goatface', 'roger.banango@gmail.com', '129.101.19.71', 1, 1299129893, 'Goatface', '[quote author=MassVC link=topic=398.msg3619#msg3619 date=1299127406]<br />[b]Captain of the Season[/b]<br />Goatface has interestingly assembled a team that does better without him than with him (no offense), which is rare.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />DMR&#039;s Record with Goatface: 1-3-1<br />DMR&#039;s Record with Climhazzard: 1-5<br />JUST SAYIN&#039;!<br />But seriously Clim rules, as do Saber and Mid.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3240, 364, 14, 1294982521, 37, 3240, 'Re: IDL Streaming/Casting', 'Tony', 'red.doomer@gmail.com', '68.42.108.176', 1, 0, '', 'I could definitely help out with this', 'xx', 1);
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	(3633, 398, 14, 1299193237, 19, 3633, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.252.85', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=nostar link=topic=398.msg3623#msg3623 date=1299143942]<br />tony you are an idiot<br />also that post is hilarious mass<br />[/quote]<br /><br />How is his opinion any less valid than yours?', 'xx', 1);
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	(4057, 433, 16, 1305561245, 147, 4057, 'Re: The Draft', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.35.212', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=MassVC link=topic=433.msg4052#msg4052 date=1305520347]<br />The fact that LordBritish is new to captaining... [/quote]<br /><br />Actually, I&#039;ve captained twice before, with a career record of 1 win, 3 losses, and 1 tie in games I bothered to show up to, a career win% of .300, which is just a shade over the .278 posted by DMR and DMC last season, the only teams worse than FLS.<br /><br />[quote author=MassVC link=topic=433.msg4052#msg4052 date=1305520347]...easy wins aren&#039;t fun for the winner...[/quote]<br /><br />I beg to differ - all wins are great, especially when I get to pad my [b]stats[/b].<br /><br />[quote author=MassVC link=topic=433.msg4052#msg4052 date=1305520347]LB ...i... ...s... better than the rest of us<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I will agree with this, though.&nbsp; However, there&#039;s a lot more to it than just skill.&nbsp; I have a way more unstable connection than the other 4 new captains, with last season&#039;s miracle (and controversial, I still think mike shoulda won it) MVP run being the only time I was consistently at playable levels.&nbsp; For emphasis, check out S2010, when I drafted Ladna and Rus who both played awesome, and still barely crawled into the playoffs.&nbsp; Skill is important.&nbsp; So is ping.<br /><br />I also have a really jacked up schedule that doesn&#039;t afford me much time to practice, or even play.&nbsp; I go to bed at around 8 or 9 pm every night, which means most of the games that I do play I&#039;ll either be a zombie from lack of sleep, or wake up in the middle of the night to play them.&nbsp; For emphasis, see W2011 weeks 5 and 6, where I was average at best in one, and the reason my team lost in the other.<br /><br />Am I biased writing this post? Of course I am; I want the best pick that I can possibly get, and thus the best chance of winning a Masterbowl.&nbsp; When you&#039;ve only won 1 playoff game in your 5-season career, you&#039;ll take whatever you can get.<br /><br />Chewy, if you&#039;re reading this, disregard all of the above and accept your invite please.', 'xx', 1);
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	(5770, 563, 20, 1324626059, 7, 5770, 'Re: Winter 2012 Draft Results', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '65.214.200.140', 1, 1324626773, 'Ladna', '[quote author=LordBritish link=topic=563.msg5754#msg5754 date=1324489668]<br />Blah blah blah<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I view stats as the baseline in IDL.&nbsp; Here&#039;s what I consider average:<br /><br />O: 1.7 flags/round, 28 frags/round, 80% frag ratio<br />M: .5 flags or picks/round 32 frags/round, 100% frag ratio<br />D: .7 picks/round, 38 frags/round, 120% frag ratio<br /><br />If you can&#039;t meet these stats, either you need to make up for it somewhere else or you can&#039;t be a 3rd because every round you play in is almost certainly a loss.&nbsp; An example of a player who makes up for it is Jenova; Jenova&#039;s one of IDL&#039;s all-time great runners, but his frag ratio is &lt; 70%.&nbsp; This is basically due to Jenova&#039;s running style, so anyone drafting him needs to make sure they&#039;re backed up in the frags department.<br /><br />That said, I 100% agree with what LB is saying.&nbsp; Those stats are [b]baselines[/b], just because you meet or exceed them doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;re doing your job.&nbsp; A couple seasons ago Dr_Noob lost his team the Conference Championships because he didn&#039;t understand how playoff rounds worked and thought they had to win, so he left D to try and desperately get a flag and let his opponents score (ironically).<br /><br />Other players don&#039;t understand what &quot;holding mid&quot; means, they don&#039;t understand the importance of items, what camping accomplishes, how to get a gun without blocking your teammates, how to wait before rushing back into mid with the flag, etc.&nbsp; Stats don&#039;t tell the whole story.<br /><br />It&#039;s really important that captains understand how their players play.&nbsp; Whiteboy once said to me his goal was to be the best cover in the game, and I&#039;m pretty sure that&#039;s true; I think White&#039;s the best M in the game because he controls the game from that position.&nbsp; Therefore, sticking him on D really doesn&#039;t allow him to reach his full potential, and if a captain does that then they&#039;re hurting their team&#039;s chances because they&#039;re not putting Whiteboy in a position to win the game for his team.&nbsp; No stat will tell you that.<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />As LB pointed out, playing different positions drastically changes your stats.&nbsp; If you&#039;re O, you&#039;re gonna end up with &gt; 1 flag/round.&nbsp; If you&#039;re M your stats are gonna be shit because you&#039;re almost always doing something intangible.&nbsp; If you&#039;re D you&#039;ll have a 110% frag ratio because you can camp and you kill opponents that are already damaged.<br /><br />So LB is right when he says players get pigeonholed a lot.&nbsp; Additionally, it takes time to learn a new position on all the maps, so switching things up usually leads to a lot of groans in priv because while you are learning, your team is losing.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4171, 446, 16, 1307758592, 7, 4171, 'IDL.org Outage', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.4', 1, 0, '', 'Hey everyone.&nbsp; While upgrading the server, something fucked the SSH install up and I was locked out of the server.&nbsp; I asked the host to fix it, and they rebooted the instance... which didn&#039;t fix anything.&nbsp; Unlike the forums or wiki, IDL.org doesn&#039;t start up automatically; I have to manually start it.&nbsp; Of course, I can&#039;t do that while locked out.<br /><br />I don&#039;t know what&#039;s up with the host, support&#039;s been pretty flaky over this.&nbsp; I might drive down there this weekend and fix it myself haha.<br /><br />Anyway, not screwing you guys.&nbsp; Just nothing I can do for now.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6322, 619, 20, 1330390757, 216, 6322, 'Re: yo yo', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '174.89.169.55', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=RustInPeace link=topic=619.msg6314#msg6314 date=1330375183]<br />*Humanbones (lol&nbsp; :P)<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Although I agree with some of your points and don&#039;t care to elaborate, I believe blaming bones is completely wrong. He has done a hell of a job since Ralph&#039;s departure and things would be a hell of a lot worse without him. He is not the cause of shit that has gone wrong this season, and should not be treated that way. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(7080, 684, 22, 1340302673, 163, 7080, 'Re: Draft Results Speculation Thread', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '108.73.173.219', 1, 0, '', 'WHEN DO THEY TAKE THEIR CLOTHES OFF ', 'xx', 1);
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	(9432, 960, 31, 1382242382, 10, 9432, 'Re: When the fuck are...', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '173.163.152.161', 1, 0, '', 'I have submitted an avail every week and rarely hear much back. What do you want me to do?', 'xx', 1);
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	(8733, 849, 1, 1363568958, 213, 8733, 'Re: Garbage thread', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '97.92.40.97', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://i.imgur.com/crsqI9l.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2211, 246, 1, 1281548225, 130, 2211, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'I personally never complained about the lack of moderation. I run a fine set of forums myself and rarely have to mod them. Granted the overall member list is far smaller but really I agree with beast. Let&#039;s keep racism, sexism and gross obscenity out of our post and continue bashing one another. <br /><br />My complaint was toward over-moderation and its tendency to kill anything funny or competitive or constructive about community input. Fine, we disagree about things. Sure we all sound like asses here and there. Why can&#039;t that stuff stand? Why does disagreeing with someone (let&#039;s say a forum mod) mean you can&#039;t post on the forum. Is disagreement some egregious crime. As much as I think what Quiksilver posted was heavy-handed and in poor fashion, I do sort of agree his premise. It&#039;s gotten to the point of blatant censorship. On that tangent though, the most name calling anyone has done so far is Quik calling you guys nazis or something. Ladna didn&#039;t even come close to that and yet his forum account is suspended (deleted?). I really don&#039;t get it.<br /><br />The moderators we have (bones, robbb, cybershark, phenex, etc.) are actually doing a good job. Bones is a little swift sometimes but other than that I think you guys do a good job. Phenex has been super helpful in the posts he&#039;s responded to me in so I have no complaints there. My complaint is mostly in the moderation of Raider and Kilgore. When I need to talk to Kilgore he&#039;s around on IRC and generally speaking those interactions go well. I don&#039;t know why he bothers modding the forums anyway, unless he thinks the current mods aren&#039;t on top of it. By his own admission he&#039;s not suited to it.<br /><br />Anyway the topic of Yo Yo was is doom fading away. Check out some numbers and decide for yourself:<br />http://dumped-archives.ath.cx/zdaemon/tools/statistics/index.php<br /><br />I would say that retaining [b]contributory [/b]players is one of the most important things we can do to stave off any attrition that may be happening here. People like Stealth, Chain, and Ladna are people who are (or were) willing to do really great things for ZDaemon. However, the behavior that has been exhibited in the last 2-3 threads about this is really depressing and I want to make very clear that it puts off people who can and will help this community and this game.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2212, 246, 1, 1281561331, 207, 2212, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'Some Dude', 'p1nball@yahoo.com', '24.113.192.202', 1, 0, '', 'I just enjoy playing the game. I am not into any of the politics that is going on. Because I have a space in my name, I can never get into IRC which results in me never getting to play on a private server. I would just like the opportunity to play as I believe that I don&#039;t bitch or cause hate and discontent. I am so sad that your servers are going away. There are never enough CTF servers with people playing.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2213, 246, 1, 1281561920, 10, 2213, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'Hi Some Dude, welcome to the forums.<br /><br />A good way to be able to get onto our IRC channel is to use a client that ISN&#039;T in the ZDaemon launcher. That way, you can have a name independent of your login. You can find any number of irc clients around the web that will allow you to connect to our channel at irc.quakenet.org #idl.<br /><br />As far as your name, you won&#039;t be able to connect as &quot;Some_Dude&quot;, but you could connect as &quot;SomeDude&quot;, Some_Dude&quot;, or any other variation.<br /><br />Hope to see you in private ctf soon :)', 'xx', 1);
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	(2214, 246, 1, 1281563580, 207, 2214, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'Some Dude', 'p1nball@yahoo.com', '24.113.192.202', 1, 0, '', 'I tried icechat but never found you guys. I need to take off.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2227, 248, 12, 1281685442, 158, 2227, 'Re: Co-MVPs', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '173.206.23.50', 1, 0, '', 'Yeah it&#039;s dumb. I AM MVP.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2237, 243, 12, 1281765736, 130, 2237, 'Re: IDL SUMMER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', '[b][color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />[list type=decimal]<br />[li]Tai[/li]<br />[li]Ralphis[/li]<br />[li]Gyrossman[/li]<br />[li]Rottking[/li]<br />[li]Hatred[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[b][color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />[list type=decimal]<br />[li]miek[/li]<br />[li]ladna[/li]<br />[li]Jenova[/li]<br />[li]kb[/li]<br />[li]RussianDumbass[/li]<br />[/list]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3124, 301, 15, 1293610581, 60, 3124, 'Re: General Tournament Discussion', 'Jkist3', 'jefferson.kist@duke.edu', '99.147.123.163', 1, 0, '', 'Me vs Collision<br />Pobla:50-24<br />Judas:50-28<br />King:50-13<br /><br />http://www.speedyshare.com/files/25948196/jkistcollsemi.zip', 'xx', 1);
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	(3238, 372, 3, 1294972807, 205, 3238, 'Re: Hiya', 'STINKBOMB', 'vandergriftmachine@gmail.com', '99.103.119.87', 1, 0, '', 'Hi Anna', 'xx', 1);
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	(3622, 398, 14, 1299134129, 37, 3622, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'Tony', 'red.doomer@gmail.com', '68.42.108.176', 1, 0, '', '1. Rookie of the year:<br /><br />Definitely gotta go with Higgs on this one, he&#039;s done pretty amazingly for his first season.<br /><br />2. Captain of the year:<br /><br />Ralphis, they are 7-1-0 at the time of this writing.<br /><br />3. Comeback player of the year:<br /><br />I guess Hatred!<br /><br />4. Most underrated player:<br /><br />I&#039;m going to go on a limb and say Dr. Noob here.&nbsp; The dude can frag.<br /><br />5. Most Valuable player:<br /><br />Jenova, because he&#039;s the best.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3800, 410, 14, 1300333636, 158, 3800, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '173.206.35.202', 1, 0, '', 'I think you&#039;re overpaying. You don&#039;t need all of this shit to run a couple of zdaemon servers. Look at the New Jersey servers on Skulltag (I used to own the exact same server). Damn fine servers. Sturdy, strong, sassy servers. Minimal problems and maximum performance for $40/month. Less problems than TT, as you will hear from anyone who has played on both.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3925, 420, 1, 1302740407, 46, 3925, 'Re: Seeking New Commissioner ', 'Roscoe', 'dalekcomander@gmail.com', '174.25.55.82', 1, 0, '', 'Big shoes to fill...', 'xx', 1);
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	(4172, 445, 16, 1307761141, 213, 4172, 'Re: TECHNO VIKINGS TEAM PIC!', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '174.103.6.16', 1, 0, '', '[center][IMG]http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/massvc/spreadeagles.png[/img][/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4058, 433, 16, 1305574593, 130, 4059, 'Re: The Draft', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.4', 1, 1305592037, 'nostar', '[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=433.msg4053#msg4053 date=1305530751]<br />People are talking about changes to the draft system when we don&#039;t have enough players [b]to[/b] draft. I would say I&#039;m surprised but I&#039;m not really.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I have been around for a few years and it turns out that this community is just angsty and aggressive. We can chalk that up to people being young and stupid, usually. And we all find places that are less shitty of course. Some people like #unidoom some people like #jefferson, most people realize that #idl is just a place that assholes get at you or where dewww and whiteboy talk about inane movies. If you&#039;re smart or good at doom you can handle it. If you&#039;re bad and/or dumb then you get trolled, every so often. It&#039;s the right kind of conditioning from my view. I hate dumb and bad people and want them to change or go away.<br /><br />For example, I don&#039;t trash Godlike every time I see him. I don&#039;t particularly like or dislike Godlike, but when I play a 15 minute priv game that feels like a 3v2 I am compelled to say something to him so he realizes that, while he won that game, he was less than spectacular and needs to work on his game significantly. My exact words to him were &quot;the worst mid ever&quot; and while that is a slight exaggeration, it certainly isn&#039;t a character attack. It&#039;s like saying Shaq can&#039;t dribble well. It&#039;s player criticism as opposed to personal criticism. <br /><br />The thing that differentiates this kind of &quot;negativity&quot; from your run-of-the-mill Nautilus encounter is that I don&#039;t want Godlike to cry or feel bad about himself, I want him to get better. I want him to know that it&#039;s important in Priv to be a smart, team oriented player. And like any great coach I require accountability from the people on my team, in as much as I care about 1 game of priv. The extent is usually just a comment like &quot;that was awful mid&quot;. If you take that as a personal attack, I file you under dumb. As stated earlier, I want dumb and bad people to change or go away, thus my behavior.<br /><br />[quote author=MassVC link=topic=433.msg4052#msg4052 date=1305520347]<br />[b]Can the IDL be made completely even through a draft revision?[/b]&nbsp; Not entirely, no.&nbsp; A completely even league would result in a tie outcome for every game, and there would be no way of determining who makes it to the playoffs.&nbsp; This is stupid and, fortunately, impossible.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />The current methodology is a coin flip, all things being tied.<br /><br />[quote][b]The Major Issue at Hand[/b][/quote]<br /><br />[quote]I think Nostar&#039;s tier system is a good way of compromising between the solid objectivity of some skill difference comparisons (mine and Jenova&#039;s) and the fuzzy subjectivity of others (Naut&#039;s and Clim&#039;s).[/quote]<br /><br />I want to know from Bones and the board what changes are being made to the IDL draft. Is the snake draft staying? Are 12 teams for sure? Which captains have which picks? I want communication. Bones, you&#039;re trying, I thank you for that. dewww, goat, mantis, miek, you all blow so far. Legislate, post or please hand in yr resignations. There are people who want to do stuff and you guys are like floating logs in a toilet so far. If for some dumb reason you guys are being super active in private, stop it. We&#039;re the players and we want to know what is happening. I read the board where you guys make rules. It&#039;s barren and idle. The latest post is &quot;this forum is useless.&quot; Haha idiots. Post here and give us some indication you&#039;re not dead, or resign please.<br /><br />[quote]I think Nostar&#039;s tier system is a good way of compromising between the solid objectivity of some skill difference comparisons (mine and Jenova&#039;s) and the fuzzy subjectivity of others (Naut&#039;s and Clim&#039;s).[/quote]<br /><br />It is a good system. It&#039;s a system most people could agree with. As per my previous tirade I don&#039;t know if the board a good idea but I guess they&#039;re who we have right now.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4741, 502, 16, 1315586573, 35, 4741, 'Re: IDL Map Contest Voting (altpriv.wad)', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.240.85.23', 1, 0, '', 'If rust&#039;s updated map plays even better i&#039;ll vote for it. Otherwise, none.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4507, 488, 16, 1312737653, 8, 4507, 'Re: week 9 dmc vs. dmr incident', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '98.234.131.145', 1, 0, '', 'As you can see from the log, everything happened pretty fast in the server and I was pretty unaware of what was happening. I want to know why LB joined before the reset if he was serving a penalty. I don&#039;t understand why it mattered if the game was started before he got there since he was sitting it out. <br /><br />I said &quot;now play&quot; when DMC scored their first flag and that was when LB was supposed to join the game, but instead Star called for a restart and it was voted on in seconds. Technically, the game that got played [b]after[/b] the restart was the right way to do it because LB fucked up and joined the first time. He did not join until DMC scored a flag following the restart. <br /><br />Resetting after a game has started isn&#039;t a common practice. However, as you can clearly see it wasn&#039;t being played the correct way even though DMC still scored a flag. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(7081, 670, 23, 1340350744, 2283, 7081, 'Re: Gray Division Results &amp; Demos', 'DevilutioN', 'balorr@hotmail.com', '120.144.31.176', 1, 0, '', 'Vs Ralphis<br /><br />Screens:<br />http://s7.postimage.org/4320kl8mx/Odamex_DUEL_20120622_171556.png<br />http://s11.postimage.org/aiwwwkecx/Odamex_DUEL_20120622_172236.png<br /><br />Demos:<br />http://www.speedyshare.com/VSHE4/DevilutioNVsRalphis.zip', 'xx', 1);
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	(2294, 257, 1, 1282188668, 205, 2294, 'Re: fancy fuckin ctf', 'STINKBOMB', 'vandergriftmachine@gmail.com', '99.91.199.144', 1, 0, '', 'Good:I like the layouts.Ugly:You may be color blind. ;DI would like to play test these maps(I&#039;ve played 02,verdicts still out for sustained playability)more.Hopefully you can get some of the &quot;usual suspects&quot; off there asses(or on them in server with these maps up)to give them a decent go around.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(2301, 254, 1, 1282268634, 10, 2301, 'Re: Most Heroic IDL games', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Mantis-X link=topic=254.msg2298#msg2298 date=1282247735]<br />Personally... Best moment I remember was Stall/Metalblack/I taking the undefeated SUC to 4 or 5 rounds in the Masterbowl and only losing by one flag.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />http://www.intldoomleague.org/stats/games/38 ???<br /><br />Maybe not as heroic as you remember, but still one of the best championship games in league history.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3239, 372, 3, 1294973104, 73, 3239, 'Re: Hiya', 'Quiksilver', 'joshbryantmusic@gmail.com', '99.71.124.161', 1, 0, '', 'and you play in the IDL matches as [FLS]Legion.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3623, 398, 14, 1299143942, 130, 3623, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '208.54.87.59', 1, 1299144168, 'nostar', 'tony you are an idiot<br />also that post is hilarious mass', 'xx', 1);
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	(3802, 410, 14, 1300334132, 130, 3802, 'Re: Free wins....', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '38.109.187.5', 1, 0, '', 'The thing is that in all of this you don&#039;t give a shit how much we pay for a server. You&#039;re looking for any reason to call me names which is fine, but let&#039;s not make it seem like anything else. Get a VPS in NJ and run IDL servers, by all means. I personally would love to see you do something rather than just criticize.<br /><br />[b]It&#039;s like when you give some kid some ice cream and he says &quot;this tastes like shit, why would you buy this&quot;. Hey,<br />[b][u][center][size=9]FUCK YOU KID[/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3624, 398, 14, 1299144962, 75, 3624, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.180.128', 1, 0, '', 'i like mass posts.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3927, 420, 1, 1302792324, 163, 3927, 'Re: Seeking New Commissioner ', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.18.40.204', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=420.msg3924#msg3924 date=1302710639]<br />InB4 some ns fag gets commissioner and drives everyone from the league.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />That was uncalled for..', 'xx', 1);
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	(3801, 410, 14, 1300333790, 89, 3801, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Solar_Flare', 'cdstrangle@gmail.com', '98.199.179.106', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ladna link=topic=410.msg3794#msg3794 date=1300326589]<br />I don&#039;t know why you think anyone has to explain anything to you, [b]you little bitch[/b].[/quote]<br />He&#039;s trying to defend himself by saying he didn&#039;t leave, but having faggots like you come in and intervene in our forum conversation while he overlooks my post just proves that he left because Jenova hurt his feelings.<br /><br />You can go that far and say he doesn&#039;t have to explain anything, but when he avoided answering a specific part of my post twice, that pretty much says it all.<br /><br />And yeah, I never expected him to respond back actually, I never even expected him to actually explain anything(or anyone for that matter) so I don&#039;t even know where you got the idea that I thought people had to explain anything to me. You definitely should stay in school for at least 10 more years since all the years you have now isn&#039;t enough for you to properly make a rebuttal of any sort other than <br />[quote author=Ladna link=topic=410.msg3794#msg3794 date=1300326589]<br />I BEAT OFF A LOT MORE NOW STRANGLE AND I&#039;M MUCH HAPPIER FOR IT.[/quote]<br /><br />Yeah so in short, shut up, seriously.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(4281, 458, 16, 1310012318, 8, 4281, 'SCHEDULING INFRACTIONS', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '98.234.131.145', 1, 0, '', '[size=6]Hi folks, I hope this is large enough for you to see.[/size]<br /><br />I will begin enforcing the [size=6]Scheduling Infractions[/size] that are listed on the [url=http://www.intldoomleague.org/rules]rules[/url] page beginning in [size=6]Week 6[/size]. I would like to refresh everyone&#039;s memory as to what scheduling and these infractions entail:<br /><br />Captains are required to send their team&#039;s availability to the commissioner by [size=6]Tuesday 11:59:59pm.[/size] The commissioner will then select an appropriate game time where both teams are available. In the event that schedules do not overlap, the commissioner will design a solution on a case-by-case basis. Should teams fail to send their availability in on time, they will be punished as follows:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li][size=6]First &amp; Second Infractions: Three minute power play.[/size][/li]<br /><br />[li][size=6]Third &amp; Subsequent Infractions: One round man advantage, with no relief even if flags are scored.[/size][/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />Non-captain players cannot schedule times with the commissioner, nor can teams schedule times between themselves; captains submit availability to the commissioner, and the commissioner assigns the game time to each team.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4059, 433, 16, 1305587721, 75, 4059, 'Re: The Draft', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '178.209.142.37', 1, 0, '', 'we voted on and passed cancelling this season because you don&#039;t value our hard work.&nbsp; :&#039;(', 'xx', 1);
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	(4173, 446, 16, 1307762625, 19, 4173, 'Re: IDL.org Outage', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.249.210', 1, 0, '', 'It&#039;s cool, babycakes. You&#039;re still my favorite.', 'xx', 1);
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	(5771, 563, 20, 1324630791, 2, 5771, 'Re: Winter 2012 Draft Results', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '24.18.104.99', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ladna link=topic=563.msg5770#msg5770 date=1324626059]<br />O: 1.7 flags/round, 28 frags/round, 80% frag ratio<br />[/quote]<br /><br />what if you are better in all 3 areas!???!! <br /><br />[color=green]mikehail changes name to lordbritish[/color]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4508, 488, 16, 1312737879, 0, 4508, 'Re: week 9 dmc vs. dmr incident', 'Fastidious', '', '76.223.246.71', 1, 0, '', 'I was there and it was clearly a clusterfuck of chaos.&nbsp; The bigger issue would probably be the demos infractions this season which seem not being enforced.&nbsp; I do wish there would be some clarification regarding crashes upon map switches however.&nbsp; It happens to me and a lot of other players.&nbsp; Usually people just play on but if people can reset for this you&#039;d think they could do so for ZDaemon bugging out.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6323, 619, 20, 1330403192, 144, 6323, 'Re: yo yo', 'James', 'jam3volution@hotmail.com', '92.30.191.174', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://i.imgur.com/xX5sO.jpg[/img][color=white] I believe.[/color]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4686, 499, 1, 1315279462, 1322, 4686, 'North America Vs Europe', 'SwiftShot', 'markwwfc1992@hotmail.com', '82.30.151.199', 1, 0, '', 'Hi all.<br /><br />I was just wondering now that the IDL has finished, if anyone would be interested in having some games between our two respectice continents. I was thinking of having 3 games in NJ, and 3 games in GV (Konar could host a priv server)<br /><br />Anyway how would you all feel about this, if it gets enough votes maybe we could discuss it futher :)', 'xx', 1);
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	(3125, 350, 14, 1293632536, 0, 3125, 'Re: W2011 Suicide League', 'capodecima', '', '88.103.101.55', 1, 0, '', 'week#1: KNF', 'xx', 1);
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	(8355, 827, 17, 1360818945, 15, 8355, 'Re: Someone else quits', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '216.246.246.103', 1, 0, '', 'Doesn&#039;t surprise me that he would do it.&nbsp; Not only is he bad at Doom, but his personality always seemed a bit flaky.&nbsp; Especially when he would say that he&#039;s tired after 2 seasons.&nbsp; Sorry but IDL-R doesn&#039;t count kid.&nbsp; Can&#039;t handle losing?&nbsp; Get better.&nbsp; Honestly, I&#039;m surprised that his team didn&#039;t stop playing before he did.&nbsp; From what I hear he&#039;s a real pain over TS.&nbsp; Screaming and whatnot.&nbsp; Next time if you&#039;re going to make a commitment to a league, grow a sack and follow through with it.&nbsp; If not, fuck off.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8345, 823, 25, 1360603497, 10, 8345, 'Re: Week 6 - IDLCONT2013-03: Untitled (FEB 11 - FEB 17) - Discussion and Results', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '98.225.132.74', 1, 0, '', 'KGB<br /><br />KNF<br /><br />SUC<br /><br />BAD', 'xx', 1);
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	(2236, 248, 12, 1281765506, 130, 2236, 'Re: Co-MVPs', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'Mantis while you played well this season you certainly weren&#039;t the most valuable player in the league by any stretch. <br /><br />I don&#039;t really think I was all that valuable to my team either, I mean I&#039;m great but...my team is really good. I think you could make a case for me being the best player in IDL, but most valuable to their team might be someone like Rus or Jenova or Ladna. Without those guys their teams would have bombed big time. I would put Tai on that list but his team had a dismal record and SPE had the same. To be honest I really think SPE was the letdown this season. Denny + (josh/blair) + mantis should = winning record at least. Denny botched that hardcore.<br /><br />Ralph and I both had pretty good teams. His was less good than mine but in the end putting someone like mantis on SUC or BBC would have yielded similar results (I use mantis as the example of a good player that wouldn&#039;t drag a team down). It seems to me that the MVP should be the person whose team, without their services, would falter the most. You can&#039;t really elect people who&#039;s teams faltered with them on it. So in the winning record category I think Rus, Jen and Ladna are the prime candidates. My vote would have gone to Ladna because he carried FLS pretty well with LB being a total gimp. Jen had stall fragging up a storm and probably one of the best 3rds in saber. Ladna had Rus playing kill but no LB for most games. Same goes for Rus but he was kinda butts that first week.<br /><br />Anyway co-mvp is dumb. And really mvp shouldn&#039;t be me or ralph. Maybe if we&#039;re going on stats miek should be mvp. 140ms ping and flag leader is not too shabby. I mostly played frag with mid or coll and miek just voodoo&#039;d flags. Give that some thought.<br /><br />I should however get best cap award. Probably of all time. Good thing I&#039;m quitting so you suckers can finally have some hope.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(3126, 357, 1, 1293647755, 73, 3135, 'Re: Kilgore Klassics', 'Quiksilver', 'joshbryantmusic@gmail.com', '99.71.124.161', 1, 1293756543, 'Quiksilver', 'I don&#039;t have one to quote, but he banned me for saying &quot;I&#039;m sure they don&#039;t wanna run this place like a totalitarian dictator.&quot;<br /><br />Next thing I know the post was removed, and then 2 minutes later I was locked out.<br /><br />EDIT - Okay, I have SOME class, but I&#039;m pretty sure Kilgore has been a bigger crybaby than I EVER could be.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4060, 433, 16, 1305606309, 8, 4060, 'Re: The Draft', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '24.147.28.219', 1, 0, '', 'I do owe you guys some information! Currently, we are still aiming for 12 teams. If this is not possible, it would clearly follow that an 8 team system would be put into place. It really all depends on the number of signups.<br /><br />As far as the draft goes, we are still in discussions as to how it is going to work. I will say that you will have a definitive answer very soon. We are trying to make it as fair and accommodating as possible. I understand that things are pretty crazy this offseason, but nobody expected the rather dismal signup turnouts or the captain changes. We are working very hard to make this season unfold with as little problems as possible. I beg you to be patient!<br /><br />I really do want you guys to know that we aren&#039;t just sitting around waiting for things to unfold, we are consistently working towards:<br /><br />1) Making a 12 team system successful this IDL season.<br /><br />2) In the event that is not possible, switching over to an 8-team system as quickly as possible and still getting the season off.<br /><br />3) Making the draft as fair as it can be. The way it gets set up could change depending on the number of teams. Right now, we haven&#039;t decided about whether to switch from the snake draft system to &quot;ABC ABC CBA&quot;. Also, deciding where the new captains will be placed in the draft and how. This is tricky. If we do &quot;ABC ABC CBA&quot;, do we randomize the order?<br /><br />These are basically the things we are discussing. We have to take a real hard look at what will be the best course for the league to take, and unfortunately it does take some time. I apologize if I have not been as open to the playerbase as I could have been. I will be sure to let you guys know about everything we are doing from now on.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4174, 443, 18, 1307762734, 19, 4174, 'Re: Week 1 (Jun 6 - Jun 12) : ZDCTF26 (MAP 26) - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.249.210', 1, 0, '', 'Hard fought game. GGs TKV, go win the rest of your games.<br /><br />[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/pKkjr.png[/img]<br />[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/SNMl7.png[/img]<br /><br />http://xen.unidoom.org/doom/idl/IDLX-Week1-SUC-vs-TKV-povXen.zip', 'xx', 1);
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	(4282, 455, 16, 1310013132, 163, 4282, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.67.243.86', 1, 1310013587, 'Hatred', '[quote author=Ralphis link=topic=455.msg4275#msg4275 date=1309943096]<br />Nobody is saying a rule change is dumb, just that your team and the league broke the league rules.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />So if you don&#039;t dispute that the rule is dumb then why should we continue to keep it in play? This season has been all about changing standards and rules (draft, the unwritten rule of 3 trades per season, etc.) so why should we stop there? I didn&#039;t see you throw a fit about those things being changed, why is this any different? Not that it was changed but hell we may as well call this the first step in changing it since it seems everyone agrees it&#039;s dumb and needs to be modified.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4555, 490, 17, 1313219457, 17, 4555, 'Re: Map types', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '69.245.157.115', 1, 0, '', 'Im assuming this is just IDL sanctioned maps.<br /><br />There are a few other beasts that wouldnt show up in IDL', 'xx', 1);
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	(6324, 619, 20, 1330403653, 214, 6324, 'Re: yo yo', 'RustInPeace', 'sindeception@yahoo.com', '70.241.25.82', 1, 0, '', 'Ok first off, all those points I made with asterisks, are not mine alone but a collection gathered from various players. The points I elaborated on are MINE. Also, that bones listing was a joke and I have told him he isn&#039;t the target of my topic and if anything blair stuck bones in with the board as part of the problem. So fuck you.<br /><br />Anyway:<br /><br /><br />[quote author=dew link=topic=619.msg6320#msg6320 date=1330384836]<br />[quote author=RustInPeace link=topic=619.msg6314#msg6314 date=1330375183]<br />*The Board<br />[/quote]<br />you were lurking in #idlb long enough to know the current board was never a monolythical entity. in fact it&#039;s a bag of feral cats and during the final weeks of the offseason period we screamed at each other for longer hours than even jenova can troll #idl. it was a very [i]bitter[/i] experience and every vote was like a fucking caesarian section done live.<br /><br />you know what? i am pissed off by the board as well, but for different reasons. we were often required to spend countless hours refining the wording of rules instead of solving game-related matters, just so we could plug a &quot;loophole&quot; spotted by our resident lawyer mass. i used quotes because they&#039;d never be considered loopholes if we managed to agree on the most basic premise everyone in this fucking game should follow - [b]uphold the spirit of the league and gamesmanship, not the most absurdly literal phrasing of the rules.[/b] we&#039;re not american judicial system.[/quote]<br />That&#039;s still no excuse for fucking up the entire season.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />*Lackluster and bad maps<br />[/quote]<br />what is this supposed to mean? bad maps in the wad or bad maps in the schedule? the board only picks maps for the wad, and you can go suck my dick regading that. the past wads were worse and there&#039;s no way you can objectively argue against that. schedule is picked by bones and i actually like the parts you hate. i&#039;m not going to insult you over that like you do vice versa, because i have already learned the lesson - people have different tastes and you need to balance your selection to cater to all of them at least partially. you won&#039;t win this battle with any reasonable administration, because this is idl, not rustctf, sorry.[/quote]<br />Yes it is IDL and you guys gave maps that were tried and tested the boot for shitty maps that hardly got any proper playing time. When I say bad maps, I&#039;m talking about both the wad and the schedule. You guys wanted libraries and then you decide to remove it near the last minute in favor of some shitty st map. If you want a schedule that&#039;s balanced, go look for ralph&#039;s mock schedule he made. I never said it had to be rustctf, in fact if you actually paid attention to actual players, you&#039;d understand that a lot of folks hate the 2nd half of the schedule. If you guys want to remove old maps that include classics and bad maps from the wad, at least properly test the new editions and make a decisive decision. Flip flopping and making terrible moves make it appear like you guys don&#039;t know what the fuck you&#039;re doing.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />*Players&#039; needs and wants falling on deaf ears<br />[/quote]<br />i think i can relate, however you&#039;d need to be concrete on this one. of course we dismissed anything jenova had to say - he was there just to mock us and never play anyways. there were other people bandwagoning on his train of thoughts, but you gotta pardon me and even the other board members (which at this point i&#039;m not trying to defend at all, just the good parts of the work we&#039;ve done), it&#039;s pretty hard to parse constructive criticism from immature skullfag trolling.[/quote]<br />I suppose all those comments on irc, in games, in topics, in polls and anywhere else aren&#039;t concrete enough. Just because you ignored Jenova doesn&#039;t mean there weren&#039;t some of us who were properly speaking against the shit you guys were forcing down our throats.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />*Board members being complete dipshits on par with zd admins/staff<br />[/quote]<br />mass - a sleazebag politician/lawyer<br />star - a stalinesque totalitarian<br />xen - a bundle of rage waiting to explode<br />dew - always whining about everything<br />okay, i see your point. but you are wrong about mikehail, so shut up.[/quote]<br />While I personally agree with regards to mikehail, there are others who don&#039;t. Now proceed to drink bleach.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />*Rules being changed mid-season<br />[/quote]<br />wasn&#039;t this just an emergency sort of patch to avoid further fuckups? the thing i didn&#039;t fully agree about was passing it through a board vote. in the past, it&#039;d go without a rule change and the commish or the board head would just roll in the server and decide on the spot. you can call it &quot;not changing the rules,&quot; but the fact is, there weren&#039;t rules for certain stuff and the executive powers just created them on the fly, so this is a bit unfair from your side.[/quote]<br />As stated before, not all points are mine personally and this example bit falls under that category. <br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />*Total Trash<br />[/quote]<br />well, okay. but [i]where[/i] else? one of the captains will [i]always[/i] refuse MTL. in the scenario of no default server, this will lead to a giant bitchfest. [b]you[/b] in particular would refuse MTL in favour of TT, haha. and i&#039;m sorry, but beast&#039;s servers weren&#039;t even IDL-ready for a few weeks of the season (wrong dmflags and settings and whatnot), so they went unnoticed by many. i don&#039;t even know the IPs. what&#039;s your miraculous cure? surely not NJ, texan guy?[/quote]<br />Once again this is not a personal gripe but since you raised a few points I&#039;ll elaborate. First off, the only time I couldn&#039;t bare TT was before the start of the season where TT was absolutely horrible. It was so bad that even ladna took notice. While the IP change did improve the quality of the server, there are some players who simply do not like TT due to the administration of the server set. Just because some people didn&#039;t take notice of CC doesn&#039;t mean it should automatically be taking out of consideration as an official server set. You don&#039;t have the IP&#039;s? Sounds like a personal problem. Plus, others and myself were pushing for CC during the beginning of the season when TT was absurdly bad. Once again, the IP change was an improvement and so far, the only people complaining about the current quality of TT are Euro&#039;s and LB (sounds like a personal problem).<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />*Players nearly sneaking away with demo infractions<br />[/quote]<br />tbh i thought for the longest time we were going to turn over all WAD games, but some people claim ladna&#039;s upload system is still p buggy and you can&#039;t blame the players, so i dunno. shak had consistent bogus demo uploads, but afaik others had occassional duds too, so instead of murdering the season with overturning half of the past matches, people were allowed to reupload. or that&#039;s how i understand it? i dunno, i wasn&#039;t paying attention, because idl was already &quot;over&quot; for me.[/quote]<br />I take all the credit for finding these demo infractions.<br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />*1000 versions of idl2012.wad<br />[/quote]<br />uh. dumb point to make. the most infamous chapter was caused by ralph&#039;s rogue behaviour. next.[/quote]<br />Not a dumb point. Its actually an example of how Ralph knows how to listen to the players. His rogue behavior was in response to the board&#039;s retarded decisions.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />*The Board<br />[/quote]<br />dipshits. never did anything right. i kinda miss the constructive, helpful rust from #idlb.[/quote]<br />Its hard to be constructive when we aren&#039;t really wanted in the channel and are expected to remain quiet during discussions.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />*Humanbones (lol&nbsp; :P)<br />[/quote]<br />what the fuck are you talking about, you fucking redneck piece of shit? bones is constantly getting undermined by mass and star, so just because he doesn&#039;t strongarm them into silence and a premature league split, you shouldn&#039;t get a free pass to sling mud at him.[/quote]<br />See my first paragraph. We all know you guys fucked up, not bones.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />1. All the above points are the board&#039;s fault<br />[/quote]<br />it&#039;s actually true. the past board voted in the current members and this board is split in a neverending standoff. i used to scream about &quot;the clique&quot; ever since... august and people were like surely you jest. i doubt anyone would bother to argue against it now.<br /><br />the most obvious, painful example is the movement to replace mikehail on the board, because he&#039;s &quot;leaving.&quot; since... september or so. the thing is, the board votes on the new members, so the past boards were dumb enough to vote in me, mass, xen and star in this order, if you can believe that. now mike has been saying he doesn&#039;t have the time for IDL anymore, so he wants to be replaced. and this is where the board splits into two stubborn cliques that won&#039;t budge. basically, there&#039;s star, mass and mike himself who want either ladna or lb to replace mike and no one else, period. this makes me and xen roll around in fits of emitting [i]liquid rage[/i] through our every pore, because it&#039;s nothing else but consolidating power for the tt group, ltd. in 3-2 cases bones decides and he&#039;s on our side, so we&#039;re locked in 3-3. just so you know, some candidates refused by the nostar group on basis that they aren&#039;t better fit than ladna or lb: prime (our first choice), ralphis, rust (i sorely regret nominating him now), saber.[/quote]<br />Why would it have mattered? You all had already fucked up by the time mike wanted out. You don&#039;t have to regret nominating me. You should regret being a pussy and not doing anything during that stalemate.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />2. They have no feelings and are heartless fucks<br />[/quote]<br />i cried sweet tears of joy after your mom sucked my balls dry. then we went through your kid&#039;s first photo album and cuddled.<br /><br />[quote]<br />3. Offensive statements won&#039;t affect them<br />[/quote]<br />your mom had to console me with a blueberry pie and a blowjob after i read this cruel statement.<br /><br />[quote]<br />4. They deserve it<br />[/quote]<br />that&#039;s what your mom said when i pulled out and it splashed over a photo of you and strangle.[/quote]<br />Yawn. And you call Jenova a troll who has nothing of importance to say. At least Jenova is funny, creative and doesn&#039;t live in poverty.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />First you have 3 old ass shitty zd maps,<br />[/quote]<br />yet you whine about getting rid of other antique pieces like map30. bah. also to be completely honest, i really wanted your contest map in the schedule, but my voice isn&#039;t strong enough in the board.[/quote]<br />What is wrong with old 30? It had a great mb game played on it. Were there any matches played this season on either of those 3 zd maps that can be considered &#039;Game of the Season&#039;? No.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />Xenaero made a topic polling players what they preferred: map28 2 or 6 spawns, map32 original or Ralphis&#039; textures. Even though the poll results favored 2 spawn 28 and Ralphis&#039; textures, we got 6 spawns and mspaint textures.<br />[/quote]<br />the problem with the poll was it came [i]after[/i] we already voted on the matter and works on the wad were in progress. i&#039;d still prefer obliging the poll, but: the vote on map28 2s vs 6s was decided by a 10 vs. 7 majority? that&#039;s not a very decisive people&#039;s wish, your presidents won with less. :) i won&#039;t even dignify the map32 textures thing with a reply, because i&#039;m seeping with hate and eyesore.[/quote]<br />The point still stands that if the board actually gave a fuck to know where the players stood on those issues, the poll would have happened earlier. But apparently the board knows best. <br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />Interestingly enough Ralphis, who is nothing more than a captain officially, made an idl wad that contained what the players wanted.<br />[/quote]<br />this is a pathetic appeal to the anti-administration movement. we let ralphis do the wad, because he&#039;d always done it. i don&#039;t know how the fuck you missed that little fact. it was out of respect to him, you fucking rick perry dicksucker. ralph himself admits he chose to ignore the board decisions and created a wad that combined some board stuff and some of his own choices. even the bones-clique (bones/me/xen) was unhappy with this, because he chose to ignore some of things [i]we[/i] managed to put through. ralph&#039;s rogue action unified the board for a while.[/quote]<br />Uh, my point is that he fucking gave a shit about what the players wanted and his wad reflected that. Yeah go figure, the board unifies against something that the player base wants. Also, I don&#039;t even like rick perry nor do I support him. But I would support him first before I&#039;d ever support the shitty board.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />Plus, his wad didn&#039;t destroy map04<br />[/quote]<br />well, the thing is... it was one of his early betas that created the HOMs. mass took over editing the wad and he didn&#039;t catch up on the fixes and used an earlier ralph version. it was a fuckup, but you surely abuse the situation to your advantage.[/quote]<br />Yet, the whole thing could have been prevented if you all let go of your Kilgore tendencies and allowed Ralph&#039;s wad to be the official wad.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />and it was the first version to include past MasterBowl maps (mb01-10).<br />[/quote]<br />this was a thing mutually agreed on by the board, bones and ralph. you can&#039;t steal it for ralph himself just to make the board look bad.[/quote]<br />Really? Then why were there board members questioning ralph about his inclusion of the past masterbowls? Plus, I don&#039;t need to make the board look bad, you guys do a great job yourselves.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />Also it&#039;s worth mentioning that the proctf map (which doesn&#039;t work on zd at all in its original state) was properly play tested on Skulltag! rofl, I guess we could play test some ZDoom Wars map and it&#039;ll be IDL ready!<br />[/quote]<br />oh, the smug arrogance! you&#039;d be right at home as a board member, you fucking dickwad. that map is perfectly fine. ask some better zdaemon players than you, like whiteboy.[/quote]<br />Yes because whiteboy&#039;s word represents the stance of the entire IDL player base. Please. The map sucks. Let&#039;s ask players who are better than you! Basically that means everyone else.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />The removal of map07 and map30 and possibly map32 of the 2011 wad was also dumb. I personally don&#039;t give a shit about old 32, but 07 and 30 were [u]good for the IDL[/u]. However tried and true maps like those two were [u]removed[/u] for jokes like that shitty Christmas map and the stupid rad suit/hidden sphere map. Oh wells, let&#039;s move on.<br />[/quote]<br />they weren&#039;t removed [i]for[/i] the particular maps you mentioned. there was a vote for removing maps, then there was a multi-round vote to put maps in. i pushed for map-for-map replacement, but that was mostly symbolic, because we already had the lists. you don&#039;t understand the selection process, apparently. do i wish 07 stayed in? yeah. but why don&#039;t you mention we also replaced UTTER FUCKING SHIT like old map06? because it&#039;d look worse for your arguments to say we replaced pro19 for mad06? go eat a dick, you scumbag.[/quote]<br />You didn&#039;t replace 06 with pro19. You guys replaced libraries with pro19 and if I recall, this was the only instance of a map to map replacement. You don&#039;t even know what the fuck you are saying, dipshit. Plus I don&#039;t think anyone outside of the board knows how the selection process went down. According to star and mass on the IDL radio, it was retarded anyway, much like you.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />Jenova getting banned from TT<br />[/quote]<br />he&#039;s an obnoxious motherfucker and i don&#039;t care. he just keeps pushing you and he&#039;s not in the IDL anymore, so why care about him so much? he is in it just for the trolling.[/quote]<br />Once again, not my personal point. I only stated that as an example.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />Xenaero single-handedly destroying MAD&#039;s season (Maybe only applies to DoomGuy lol D: )<br />[/quote]<br />none of your fucking business, dipshit. how is that related to the board? what if mass &quot;destroyed&quot; your season by not submitting a 3rd demo and getting annihilated? last season i was on a team destroyed by naut&#039;s idiocy and i don&#039;t see you nailing [i]him[/i] to the cross. please, separate administration from playing, k?[/quote]<br />It was to prove a point of how you guys are on power trips. Xen ain&#039;t the captian, he doesn&#039;t get to decide when MAD plays. Doomguy got upstaged by a control freak. Also, Naut has crucified himself. Hence his disappearance.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />Dew abusing rcon during a priv session and kicking Tai for no appropriate reason<br /><br />(lengthy explanation)<br />[/quote]<br />you know, after years of getting slapped around by nostar, i actually did the same - i decided priv was not the same thing as IDL (because it is not) and i lashed against tai, who was mocking me. i abused rcon, [b]go ahead and take it from me[/b], it&#039;s not necessary for me to have it anyways. also you are lying in part, i left immediatelly after kicking him, because i didn&#039;t want to play anymore, so i wasn&#039;t delaying anything. still, i&#039;ll gladly let go of any rcon powers i might have over any idl servers and i will leave the board if the public think i am a malignant element because of this incident. also tai is a fucking moron.[/quote]<br />Although tai is far from being my best friend, the point still stands on members of the board acting like dipshits and believing they are above everyone else. You were holding up priv because you wouldn&#039;t shut your fucking mouth. You kept insisting that you were better than the players who were chosen before you. You were cluttering the chat with your inane messages and by attacking tai, you were disturbing the order of the priv session. You left the server because you&#039;re a pussy bitch ass motherfucker that wouldn&#039;t have said a word if you didn&#039;t have rcon.<br /><br /><br />[quote][quote]<br />So in closing, fuck you.<br />[/quote]<br />thank you for being a dick.<br />[/quote]<br />Thank you for being part of the worst board in the history of IDL and for having a part in making this season the worst ever. I hope you go to sleep and never wake up.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6635, 578, 20, 1333588926, 19, 6635, 'Re: The POWERHOUSE!! - Montreal''s IDL Set', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.231.81', 1, 0, '', 'Server&#039;s closed. Lack of regular use over the past few months has shown it&#039;s not justifiable to keep them up! Thank Wartorn in quakenet IRC for letting the IDL use his servers as alternates this past season. :)', 'xx', 1);
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	(7082, 670, 23, 1340353289, 10, 7082, 'Re: Gray Division Results &amp; Demos', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '98.225.144.111', 1, 0, '', 'All demos from all six of my games so far. All two-round wins.<br /><br />http://ralphis.unidoom.org/stuff/doom/demos/mac2012/', 'xx', 1);
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	(3127, 350, 14, 1293649185, 130, 3127, 'Re: W2011 Suicide League', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'KNF', 'xx', 1);
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	(3241, 371, 1, 1294994400, 163, 3241, 'Re: Demo Playback - Incorrect Password', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.180.238.223', 1, 0, '', '[quote=&quot;A voice from Greece&quot;]Note to everyone: go someplace else if you want to argue ad nauseam.[/quote]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3803, 410, 14, 1300334237, 158, 3803, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '173.206.35.202', 1, 0, '', 'Actually, people have offered to host IDL servers (Alexmax, Beast and myself included) in the past but have been rejected because of your superiority complex. Get your facts straight kid.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3928, 418, 14, 1302794275, 158, 3928, 'Re: I won IDL again', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '64.56.226.8', 1, 0, '', 'I feel like it has been quite a while since I made this initial post, so I would just like to reiterate that I&#039;m the best player in doom.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6325, 619, 20, 1330404503, 61, 6325, 'Re: yo yo', 'Chain', 'luis_miguelito_@hotmail.com', '97.87.60.161', 1, 0, '', 'I just have a few questions:<br /><br />1 - Why is there even such a thing as &quot;The Board&quot;? The league was doing just fine without it, although it&#039;s also not such a great thing to have a bald nazi deciding things on a whim either. I believe there&#039;s a way to have a player-run league that everyone can enjoy if people know their roles and stay on the same page. If the rules have been or can be refined to the point where people just know how things work, there really won&#039;t be a need for arguing about everything. Should there be a reason to tweak or improve certain things, put it to a vote amongst the active/signed up players. Better yet, make it a REQUIREMENT for IDL participation to take part in votes throughout the season (if they come up). Say, at least 50% of a 4-man team has to vote on any given modification or rule tweak, or perhaps if there is any such thing as a &quot;board,&quot; it should be comprised of the 8 captains for that particular season, not some asshats who come out of nowhere (Mass) or don&#039;t even play. If captains are guaranteed a say, I&#039;m sure that would also encourage people to man up and BE captains.<br /><br />2 - Better maps that most people enjoy can be attained in a few different ways. First off, whoever has executive powers or anything of the sort should perhaps ASK the player base first? Then, when people who attempt to bring some fresh maps into the fold ask people to playtest, maybe those same people who bitch about maps not being &quot;good&quot; can actually get off their asses and help test and refine new maps. I mean, you&#039;re all the experts right? How about sharing some of that amazing knowledge so that perhaps future seasons for you or others are enjoyable?<br /><br />When I was doing the bulk of the testing for SCTF, I got a variety of opinions and great help from a good chunk of people. Blair&#039;s &quot;Monstrous&quot; SCTF01 was &quot;the perfect map&quot; according to LB. Dew was/is a fan as well. Saber liked the map but only if I got rid of the Rocket Launcher. The list goes on in terms of positives and negatives. At least those with an actual opinion other than &quot;you can get spawn camped and I want my ssg spawns&quot; (hello, this is Doom) took the time to playtest the mapset. So when you say that the Board should listen to everything you say, maybe you can practice what you preach and help mappers when they ask for non-gay/troll feedback.<br /><br />As for that PROCTF map, the &quot;official&quot; statement regarding that map (IIRC from Mass himself, or someone from the board) was, and I quote, &quot;We playtested it in Skulltag.&quot; Really? Like that matters dick in a ZDaemon league. Also, if you&#039;re gonna structurally alter a map that wasn&#039;t even designed for ZD, it shouldn&#039;t be used in the first place. Just ask Jkist and the folks at ZDDL--those same fags who swore by MAP01&#039;s &quot;purity&quot; (and other nuthugger/bandwagon hopper statements) basically admitted to the map&#039;s shitty nature by altering it. Don&#039;t be like them, and don&#039;t be in denial if a map you really THINK will work really won&#039;t.<br /><br />3 - Totally agree on the smug, arrogant, and all-around skullfag attitude some people (especially those &quot;in power&quot;) display around here. Competitive Doom used to be fun in the early years of the IDL, but now everyone seems to just enjoy being &quot;lil bitches hidin&#039; behind your lil&#039; keyboards.&quot; Let me break it down for you: no one in this league is impervious to being humbled. Everyone can beat everyone for the most part, so talking shit or being a troll will only make your eventual humbling all that more juicy. The way people treat each other around here is sometimes worse than Skulltag&#039;s most terrible drama-filled days of their lives. Both players and administration are at fault here (i.e. dew&#039;s rapid and trolling response in this very thread). In short, all of you Naut wannabes are killing the league. Stop it.<br /><br />4 - The number people who have actually put effort and money into hosting/supporting the IDL (since its inception) long-term can be counted with one hand. Everyone else has no clue what goes on or how many resources and time is required to do such a thing. Yes, that doesn&#039;t mean whoever hosts or keeps the IDL alive on the back end is beyond criticism or can&#039;t be called out, but a server host who provides a RELIABLE (not &quot;great,&quot; not &quot;perfect,&quot; not &quot;0 ping&quot;) service for others doesn&#039;t need to hear the kind of bullshit a lot of you people from point #3 throw around. If you&#039;re truly interested in the quality of the servers, do some research and maybe offer alternatives to the people paying. Maybe if you find a better datacenter, provider, or whatever, you can fly it by the hosts. Better yet, maybe you can fork your own ~$100/month and walk the talk. A lot of the attitude regarding this particular issue is similar to a spoiled brat berating his mom because he wants a 5mpg Ferrari instead of their trusty 35mpg Honda that has gotten them around their entire lives. Is the kid really in the position to bitch? No, and neither are most of you. On the other side of the equation, just because you host servers it doesn&#039;t mean you get to abuse your own power. If someone is being detrimental to a particular game, match, or you personally--by all means teach them a lesson, but handing out bans like dildos at Jenova&#039;s birthday isn&#039;t a good solution for your reputation and the integrity of your service.<br /><br />5 - I think Bones has done a great job with what he was given. Just because some trolls like to (like dew said) rape the wording of everything they see to find loopholes, it doesn&#039;t mean Bones can&#039;t make good decisions or that he has made terrible ones. Give the guy a break--I sure as hell don&#039;t miss the days when people picked ReakuCTF just because they &quot;thought&quot; it was a good map. At least Bones&#039; non-receding hairline would lead him to think about it beforehand.<br /><br />6 - Speaking of receding hairlines, one good thing Ralphis has done lately is actually compile a non-shitty version of the IDL WAD. Stuff like this is no easy task just in terms of keeping textures from menstruating, let alone ensuring the maps work as intended (splash damage, nodes, etc). Board, get over yourselves, and just accept that if someone in the player base does a better job or offers a better alternative, suck it up and roll with it (after thorough vetting/testing of course).<br /><br />7 - Have fun. For TAI&#039;s sake, you don&#039;t have to actively seek to one-up someone else with the shitty comments or ways to screw someone (interrupting practices, kick/banning, general attitude). Doom will never get old in my eyes, but some of you are really killing the last refuge for any worthwhile Doom activity.<br /><br />PS. Sorry for pulling a Jamie and posting an essay, but in this case it was necessary :o', 'xx', 1);
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	(3941, 400, 1, 1303419013, 8, 3941, 'Re: For my fans...', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '209.239.215.57', 1, 0, '', 'Yes Fast, I think this is sad.', 'xx', 1);
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	(5772, 552, 17, 1324639310, 75, 5772, 'Re: Montreal Server', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '178.209.142.37', 1, 0, '', 'i dunno how STABLE montreal really is, there may be yet unexplored issues to be met during the season, but i&#039;m extremely happy we even have an alternate server. and of course me outfragging lb on map29 makes me a happy player.<br /><br />this changes nothing from TT still being the default IDL server, so if both caps can&#039;t agree on playing @ MTL, TT is the automatic choice. this approach may be disputed in the future, but future means &quot;the next off-season.&quot;', 'xx', 1);
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	(3625, 400, 1, 1299155163, 0, 3625, 'For my fans...', 'Fastidious', '', '121.54.54.63', 1, 1299161536, 'Ralphis', '8)<br /><br />[img]http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8938/p2010038.jpg[/img]<br /><br />[img]http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/5499/p2280053.jpg[/img]<br /><br />God damn I have lame sheets, but the girls don&#039;t seem to mind.<br /><br />[img]http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/4408/p2210016.jpg[/img]<br /><br />But really it&#039;s the stellar cuisine that keeps people coming back...<br /><br />[img]http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7848/p2210049.jpg[/img]<br /><br />The BALUT says HI.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4061, 414, 1, 1305767765, 17, 4061, 'Re: EVERYONE NEEDS A GHASTLY FUSION NOW!!!!', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '98.228.219.91', 1, 1305767898, 'Mionic_D', '[img]http://alexonsager.net/pokemon/images/fused/92/92.93.png[/img]<br /><br />WHAT HAS SCIENCE DONE?', 'xx', 1);
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	(4283, 455, 16, 1310059218, 15, 4283, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '184.144.174.107', 1, 0, '', 'Hate, I think you should lay low for a while.&nbsp; You traded away your best player for crap.&nbsp; Pretty much given up any chance of getting to the playoffs, or hell, win a game even.&nbsp; This tells me you cut off your balls, and you&#039;ve bent over for every team that still plays you for the remainder of the season.&nbsp; I expect this from someone like legion, not from you.&nbsp; <br />Very uncharacteristic. How much did he pay you?&nbsp; ???', 'xx', 1);
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	(3936, 420, 1, 1302888683, 214, 3936, 'Re: Seeking New Commissioner ', 'RustInPeace', 'sindeception@yahoo.com', '65.68.75.23', 1, 0, '', '[url=http://forums.zdaemon.org/viewtopic.php?p=172296&amp;sid=1e0c592976287353a21f02f408ad9a6e#172296]Duels??[/url]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2276, 250, 12, 1281917713, 75, 2276, 'Re: Dumb Flames S2010', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.180.96', 1, 0, '', 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kre9vzsZrdQ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4671, 494, 17, 1314974018, 16, 4671, 'Re: Booting out unwanted maps.', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '76.118.152.96', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ladna link=topic=494.msg4670#msg4670 date=1314950095]<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=494.msg4661#msg4661 date=1314810693]<br />One funny thing about Quake is I have no problem playing the same maps there forever but that&#039;s probably because Quake is a much deeper game skill wise than Doom.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Whoa.&nbsp; Just because Quake has shitty weapons and a hard-on for item whoring doesn&#039;t make it &quot;deeper&quot; than Doom.&nbsp; In fact, having been forced to watch a lot of Quake by Nostar &amp; mikehail, I feel confident when I say that Quake is:<br /><br />&nbsp; - Whore the megahealth<br />&nbsp; - Whore the armor<br />&nbsp; - Whore the weapons<br />&nbsp; - Whore the megahealth, armor, and weapons<br />&nbsp; - Don&#039;t forget to whore all the items, including the megahealth, armor, and weapons<br />&nbsp; - If you out-aim your opponent even by a tiny amount you win (forget about movement, prediction, or item whoring)<br />&nbsp; - If you&#039;re winning, run the fuck away<br /><br /> ::)<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Yeaaa, +1. We&#039;ll end up agreeing or disagreeing on what maps should be in the 2012 IDL WAD, but lol @ Quake being &quot;deeper&quot; than Doom. Maybe different, but saying any game is deeper than the other is homer talk. Nothing&#039;s stopping you from having your Quake orgies with Higgs, Fast. : \\', 'xx', 1);
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	(4509, 488, 16, 1312738432, 213, 4509, 'Re: week 9 dmc vs. dmr incident', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '174.103.4.230', 1, 0, '', '[IMG]http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/massvc/bskvsspe.jpg[/img]<br />rofl', 'xx', 1);
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	(4175, 443, 18, 1307770404, 216, 4175, 'Re: Week 1 (Jun 6 - Jun 12) : ZDCTF26 (MAP 26) - Discussion and Results', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '67.68.32.106', 1, 0, '', 'Didn&#039;t feel like uploading right after the game on thursday, so here it is: <br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/4DgWA.png[/img]<br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/TRcEz.png[/img]<br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/A4trG.png[/img]<br /><br /><br />GGs BSK', 'xx', 1);
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	(4687, 499, 1, 1315280217, 1322, 4687, 'Re: North America Vs Europe', 'SwiftShot', 'markwwfc1992@hotmail.com', '82.30.151.199', 1, 0, '', 'Jenova is scared of Euro&#039;s<br /><br />GG', 'xx', 1);
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	(4702, 499, 1, 1315377278, 131, 4702, 'Re: North America Vs Europe', 'Gyrossman', 'mistero@seznam.cz', '90.180.209.65', 1, 0, '', 'Hate, there was Mortal ofc, he&#039;s not around anymore though. There were Dopefish and Spirit_Crusader who aren&#039;t gone, &#039;just&#039; inactive. Lately the most dominant euro defender is Sniper/ShadowForce and I believe Nosturi has talent to become one as well.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6636, 642, 17, 1333649326, 37, 6636, 'Re: Hatred won a masterbowl', 'Tony', 'red.doomer@gmail.com', '76.112.71.130', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Sabertooth link=topic=642.msg6619#msg6619 date=1333350073]<br />Shaq Fu vs The Sex Gods map11 best game of all time.<br />[/quote]<br />Do you still have a demo for that game?', 'xx', 1);
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	(4761, 483, 16, 1315936724, 2174, 4761, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'Decay`', 'systemdecay@hotmail.ca', '24.235.227.226', 1, 0, '', 'The new build lacks my update to map18...', 'xx', 1);
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	(8870, 878, 30, 1365735493, 2303, 8870, 'Re: IDL Radio #1 - 4/7/2013', 'Watermelon', 'watermelonst@hotmail.com', '99.239.182.148', 1, 0, '', 'i was for the in the end but now next week&nbsp; :-*', 'xx', 1);
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	(7083, 687, 22, 1340389546, 147, 7083, 'Free Agents/Trade History Discussion', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.34.39', 1, 0, '', 'they definitely have a better shot now that you are gone', 'xx', 1);
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	(8277, 815, 17, 1360369933, 157, 8277, 'LIMITATION??', 'Legion_', 'skulltaglegion@hotmail.com', '108.12.69.67', 1, 0, '', 'that is fair enough. the assertion that it will be looked into is all I was asking for, not some diatribe from every joe blow with an opinion<br /><br />I believe the collision code is a much more important matter to be looked over, but it appears everyone got stuck on some other, less important qualm and tried to bash me over the head with it', 'xx', 1);
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	(8346, 823, 25, 1360608681, 2303, 8346, 'Re: Week 6 - IDLCONT2013-03: Untitled (FEB 11 - FEB 17) - Discussion and Results', 'Watermelon', 'watermelonst@hotmail.com', '99.239.182.148', 1, 0, '', 'Is this map25?', 'xx', 1);
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	(3128, 352, 14, 1293662989, 192, 3128, 'Re: ALERT: OFFICIAL WINTER 2011 IDL-R SCHEDULE RELEASE', 'Tavion', 'satchtabber@hotmail.com', '200.121.222.155', 1, 0, '', 'Anybody can help me contact Beast? I still can&#039;t contact him no matter what I do (ask for his msn, join #renegades, etc). Thanks.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2246, 248, 12, 1281769866, 163, 2246, 'Re: Co-MVPs', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '72.240.150.213', 1, 1281770159, 'Hatred', 'I&#039;m not sure if the MVP or &quot;CO-MVP&quot; is determined before or after the season is over, but if it&#039;s not I really think it should be. <br /><br />When I think of an MVP, I think of a combination of things. Regardless, I think the MVP should be in the top 5 of a major stat somewhere. Sure, you may mean a lot to a team and what you do may not show up on the stat-sheet but I believe the MVP would still be a leader in some major category. Simply echoing what Star said here, it depends on how important a player was to his team and where&#039;d they be without him. I also think one of the biggest things is what they do in the play-offs. If they were the regular season mvp but choke in play-off time and amount to nothing, how could they be the MVP? It&#039;s debatable and every scenario is different but I think what one accomplishes in the post-season should be a factor, too, hence me suggesting it should be determined at the end of the season (if it isn&#039;t already that way but I want to say it is for some reason). <br /><br />With that being said, two guys really come to mind here: mikehail and Jenova, with Star, Ralph and Rus not far behind. BBC would probably still be pretty damn good without mikehail, but I think he&#039;s what makes the masterbowl favorites in many the eyes of many. He&#039;s one of top fraggers and the flag capture leader so that has to count for something. That being said, Jen isn&#039;t far behind and although I love Stall and Saber&#039;s games, I don&#039;t see them being a playoff team without Jen. So if I had to vote for anyone, given stats and what they mean to their teams as well as overall ability, I&#039;d go with mikehail.<br /><br />Mike for prez. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(2247, 248, 12, 1281770305, 20, 2247, 'Re: Co-MVPs', 'Mantis-X', 'nesman90@aol.com', '98.25.82.179', 1, 0, '', 'Nostar... My apologies... I didn&#039;t type what I was saying clear enough .... I agree, I&#039;m not the league MVP by any stretch... I was jokingly talking about the All-Star stuff ;D<br /><br />There are a ton of factors involved with MVP... Not just performance but to me reliability and even attitude somewhat... Definitely more than a few players this year were capable of being considered an MVP and narrowing down to just one certainly isn&#039;t an easy task.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3242, 364, 14, 1295018074, 73, 3242, 'Re: IDL Streaming/Casting', 'Quiksilver', 'joshbryantmusic@gmail.com', '99.71.124.161', 1, 0, '', 'I don&#039;t mind either, I need to make an account, but my upload is nearing 1mb/s so during a match I could see myself dedicating my bandwidth for streaming. Plus I enjoy watching matches anyway.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6326, 619, 20, 1330405871, 16, 6326, 'Re: yo yo', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '98.216.91.67', 1, 0, '', 'Dew, suck my black dick. Thank you. &lt;3', 'xx', 1);
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	(3626, 400, 1, 1299166450, 147, 3626, 'Re: For my fans...', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.35.212', 1, 0, '', 'phineas and ferb is awesome', 'xx', 1);
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	(3394, 364, 14, 1297567686, 17, 3394, 'Re: IDL Streaming/Casting', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '98.228.219.91', 1, 0, '', 'You should really do stuff with the youtube channel...would be great for archival purposes.<br /><br />Who runs that again?', 'xx', 1);
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	(3804, 410, 14, 1300334901, 130, 3806, 'Re: Free wins....', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '38.109.187.5', 1, 1300335676, 'nostar', 'Dude strangle you can&#039;t make coherent sentences. Please just hide behind someone and hug nuts as per usual.<br /><br />I never rejected anyone. I have personally helped at least 4 people host servers for IDL. Actually the only reason anyone was &quot;rejected&quot; (which isn&#039;t accurate btw) is because IDL used to use ZDStack for stats and now we just use game logs. The reality is that we wanted to help them put ZDStack on their servers and they were unwilling/uninterested/inactive or what have you. Here is something you could consider though. <br /><br />Host....right now. I don&#039;t need 10 excuses for why you aren&#039;t doing it. I will assume they all really translate to:<br /><br />Jenova: I&#039;m a bitch and I just like to whine.<br /><br />AND<br /><br />[quote author=Ralphis]You pay $0[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=Jenova]Actually Ralph, $10[/quote]<br /><br />Pay is in the present my friend. You currently pay $0. Congrats! you&#039;re wrong again.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3929, 420, 1, 1302796402, 15, 3929, 'Re: Seeking New Commissioner ', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.90.44', 1, 0, '', 'My bad Hatred, I still don&#039;t count you as a member of ns.&nbsp; You&#039;re not that much of a douche.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4062, 414, 1, 1305815194, 19, 4062, 'Re: EVERYONE NEEDS A GHASTLY FUSION NOW!!!!', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.249.152', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://alexonsager.net/pokemon/images/fused/68/68.54.png[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4176, 446, 16, 1307811946, 15, 4176, 'Re: IDL.org Outage', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '68.171.231.80', 1, 0, '', 'Fixitfixitfixit.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  Fixitfixitfixitfixit&nbsp; FIXIT', 'xx', 1);
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	(4284, 455, 16, 1310063565, 163, 4284, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.67.243.86', 1, 0, '', 'Actually Stall, I don&#039;t have to do anything. I made that decision and that is pretty much that. I can understand where you and Balding are coming from purely from a competitive stand-point but do you think I just intend to go into every match and lose 0-5? If that&#039;s what you think then you&#039;re a complete moron. I go into every match thinking I&#039;m going to win so why am I going to stop now? I&#039;m not. So no, I won&#039;t lay low. I could care less about what you morons have to say. In fact, how about I bust on your face while I inform you about the Saber/Noob trade. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(5773, 552, 17, 1324655443, 163, 5773, 'Re: Montreal Server', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '76.233.133.120', 1, 0, '', 'Fuck it, TT is fine. Stop making excuses when you fucks miss! ', 'xx', 1);
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	(6637, 639, 21, 1333650663, 44, 6637, 'Re: IDL-R Invite List/Signup Thread', 'MadV', 'www.helloguys@hotmail.com', '50.133.18.130', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;ll play, but I have to know when my games are atleast a couple days before. This seemed to be a big challenge for the IDL.. My schedule is pretty lenient given I have the dates for our games and practices ahead of time.<br /><br />MadV<br />USA<br />elisanscrainte@gmail.com<br />qn #idl, #preciseshot<br />Usually free after 5pm (eastern time)', 'xx', 1);
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	(4688, 499, 1, 1315280410, 209, 4688, 'Re: North America Vs Europe', 'AlexMax', 'alexmax2742@gmail.com', '174.108.2.107', 1, 0, '', 'that&#039;ll teach you to start a thread with a poll', 'xx', 1);
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	(4672, 494, 17, 1314984075, 0, 4672, 'Re: Booting out unwanted maps.', 'Fastidious', '', '76.217.100.164', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ladna link=topic=494.msg4670#msg4670 date=1314950095]So what?&nbsp; Some of the best IDL games have been tense, low-scoring games, and a lot of people agree with me.&nbsp; Sure they&#039;re not everyone&#039;s favorite, but IDL has a responsibility to incorporate maps that encourage all different types of play for two reasons:<br /><br />&nbsp; - It encourages mappers to explore different styles.<br />&nbsp; - It prevents one type of player from becoming dominant in IDL.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I feel like super defensive grind maps being equal as other &quot;style&quot; maps is a huge myth people are confused about.&nbsp; The reason those maps aren&#039;t great is because they force you to play their &quot;style&quot; without remorse.&nbsp; If you take a balanced map it can end up being played many different ways, you have choices!&nbsp; This is why maps which allow choices are better suited to the IDL.&nbsp; You can choose to try and grind out the balanced map but it&#039;ll be harder and require tough D on your part not just having a shitty map with crap chokepoints and all SSG spawns in base.<br /><br />Let&#039;s compare two good different maps.&nbsp; 31 and 3, most people would agree they are good maps both.&nbsp; Why are both maps good?&nbsp; They allow varying play and you still see people on them debating the merits of 2D or more mid or 2O rushes, etc.<br /><br />If you compare them to say a map I think most would never want to play CTF on again ZDCTF24 which is a super defensive grind map of the utmost.&nbsp; Do people argue about this map?&nbsp; Yes they do, but there really isn&#039;t any varying play choices on it unless you count praying versus giving up.&nbsp; You need to attack up a singular series of ramps in a lone hall way before coming to a dead end flag room.&nbsp; You can try and leave by teleporter but that&#039;s a trap since the enemy team will get a free shot on you, so instead your best bet is speed grabbing the flag and jumping the short wall as you race home.&nbsp; The problem is even if you killed anyone they respawn along your path with SSG and they know you can only take one route.&nbsp; Is this a fucking style?&nbsp; The style here is constraining the players to not allow choices, that&#039;s not a style but a lack of style.<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna link=topic=494.msg4670#msg4670 date=1314950095]<br />Fastidious: Re: map13 vs. map16:<br /><br />Additionally it&#039;s not about item control hardly at all; you have very little opportunity to take your opponent&#039;s soulsphere &amp; megaarmor, so really it&#039;s about making the most of your own items (giving them to your runner), not about controlling them across the map.<br /><br />On the other hand, map16 is item control incarnate.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Huh?&nbsp; They are both strictly based on item control, you require getting those items which boost you to 200/200 to win more or less.&nbsp; Have you seen what happens to the other team on 13 when the enemy mid can steal a few blue armors?&nbsp; It&#039;s not pretty.&nbsp; Just because most teams aren&#039;t smart enough to realize that should be mid&#039;s primary goal doesn&#039;t mean item control there of your own items is a given.<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna link=topic=494.msg4670#msg4670 date=1314950095]<br />Whoa.&nbsp; Just because Quake has shitty weapons and a hard-on for item whoring doesn&#039;t make it &quot;deeper&quot; than Doom.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I wonder if Hatred thinks Quake is deeper than Doom.&nbsp; I&#039;m not saying Doom isn&#039;t as competitive as Quake because it is but it takes way more time to approach mastery in.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8278, 815, 17, 1360370519, 1328, 8278, 'LIMITATION??', 'Mobius', 'hustler_0ne@hotmail.com', '174.20.105.188', 1, 0, '', '[QUOTE=Legion]Wbuild x.x[/quote]<br /><br />Not legitimate Doom.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8871, 871, 18, 1365735502, 2303, 8871, 'Re: IDL Radio Relaunches April 7th, 2013', 'Watermelon', 'watermelonst@hotmail.com', '99.239.182.148', 1, 0, '', ' i agree 8)', 'xx', 1);
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	(3129, 352, 14, 1293664946, 2, 3129, 'Re: ALERT: OFFICIAL WINTER 2011 IDL-R SCHEDULE RELEASE', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.57.203', 1, 0, '', 'Tavion, you can find Beast idling on irc.quakenet.org #idl or #renegades pretty much 24/7.&nbsp; If he isn&#039;t there you can leave him a message I am sure, not sure if he is on zdirc anymore or not.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2249, 248, 12, 1281770851, 10, 2249, 'Re: Co-MVPs', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Hatred link=topic=248.msg2246#msg2246 date=1281769866]<br />I&#039;m not sure if the MVP or &quot;CO-MVP&quot; is determined before or after the season is over, but if it&#039;s not I really think it should be.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Not sure what this means, but of course the MVP is determined after the regular season. Voting was done in the final week leading into the wild card games. <br /><br />Anyway, the voting process is that each individual on the IDL board and I initially vote on 6 players for MVP, and then we narrow it down until the top vote getter is declared MVP. However, because six people vote, we just happened to end up with votes split 3/3 this time. Voting is confidential between members (except for me since I end up reading and adding all the votes together).<br /><br />The votes are strictly on regular season play and playoff performance is not considered. A similar vote is done to name the MasterBowl MVP.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3243, 365, 14, 1295020269, 10, 3243, 'Re: DEMO INFRACTION LISTING', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'RussianDumbass has no demo for week 1. First infraction.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2401, 267, 1, 1283136846, 73, 2401, 'Re: ZDCTF MAP08', 'Quiksilver', 'joshbryantmusic@gmail.com', '68.57.224.163', 1, 0, '', 'just played it in priv. I agree. retire it.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2405, 264, 3, 1283140919, 89, 2405, 'Re: Expansion Names', 'Solar_Flare', 'cdstrangle@gmail.com', '70.241.29.182', 1, 0, '', 'Supershotgun vikings', 'xx', 1);
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	(3384, 383, 14, 1297315695, 163, 3384, 'Re: Week 6 (Feb 7 - Feb 13) : ZDE01 (MAP20) - Discussion and Results', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.34.210.163', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://i.imgur.com/dUyD8.png[/img]<br /> <br />This is a game where KNF can get closer to clinching a wild-card spot with struggling SXP in town. On the opposite end of it, every game for SXP is a must-win from here on out. If KNF beats them, they can kiss a post-season berth goodbye. That being said, it&#039;ll be tough to defeat KNF here. It&#039;s a map I can see mike excelling in as a runner but I do believe SXP has more fragging power and that could play a huge role in such a mid-control oriented map. The issue I see coming up with SXP is their inability to score and if Coll ends up on D, I can still see that being quite problematic. The overall fragging of SXP should keep this close but I like KNF&#039;s savvy to pull a win out and send SXP home packing for an early vaction.<br /><br />Prediction: KNF wins 2-1<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/J0lcy.png[/img]<br /><br />A battle of two former MasterBowl winning teammates take stance with the winner taking control of the WDC #1 seed in the mid-season. Stallion has certainly been a force on defense all season and with LB playing well, the offense has been just as stellar. Xenaero may be an unsong hero in this map, he has the ability to frag it up and control mid well while also grabbing a few flags of his own. I look for BBC to play an extremely aggressive game here and test Rott and Dev like they&#039;ve never been tested. If Stall keeps Jen under control, this could be a cake-walk for BBC and I literally mean, blow-out central. I can easily see LB scoring on Dev/Rott with Xen patrolling mid quite a few times, I&#039;m just not sure I can see Jenova doing the same thing against the leagues top defender. I like BBC in this one and I like them big. Too much fire power, too much fragging power and too much Ohio baby.<br /><br />BBC wins 2-0<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/f0XQl.png[/img]<br /><br />FLS hasn&#039;t really done anything worth mentioning other than upsetting KGB earlier in the season. That was to be expected though. What wasn&#039;t to be expected was how SPE has come out once again struggling and disappointing. With a win here and another SXP loss, SPE can gain some breathing room for the last play-off spot in the WDC. They&#039;re far more talented than FLS and they should win but I do think FLS will make this a little tougher than people think. SPE will still prevail in 2 games though.<br /><br />Prediction: SPE wins 2-0<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/BZiSs.png[/img]<br /><br />Literally a must-win for the Vikings. Losing now could really put them further back in the wild play-off race in the IDC. turSKA has been good but he&#039;s gonna have to step up the offense here in order for TKV to come away with a win. I like TKV in this one even though Star seems to have a hard time defending on this map. I love Rus being aggressive here and I can see turSKA really feeding off of it and possibly putting this one away early. DMC won&#039;t be slouches either, if Cab can come to play and they play with discipline, Aerial can be a decent runner here. Nonetheless, I still like the Vikings here.<br /><br />Prediction: Vikings win 2-1<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/d3ugj.png[/img]<br /><br />With a win, KGB can get back to .500 after a terrible 0-3 start including a loss to the Steelers. DMR is everyone&#039;s favorite underdog and while I&#039;m rooting for them, I just can&#039;t see any of them possibly having an answer for White on offense here. KGB simply has too much fragging power in a wide-open mid-oriented map such as this.<br /><br />Prediction: KGB wins 2-0<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/TtKFX.png[/img]<br /><br />Ralphis is looking to avenge SUCS humiliating defeat to EBL in last seasons conference finals. Both teams are drastically different and both are coming off of tough losses. EBL needs this more than SUC does but it could be a huge blow to SUC&#039;s morale if they drop two straight after starting out 4-0. This could also be a preview of another conference match-up and while SUC would still be leading by half a game even with a loss, you don&#039;t want to allow doubt to creep in and possibly have to face EBL on their home-turf. Vice versa, EBL absolutely needs a win here and controls their own destiny to win it&#039;s division if they can manage to win out. Look for an intense battle here. This one won&#039;t be for the weak stomach, keep children away from the monitor as the power that may be on display here could literally blow off a hand. <br /><br />Prediction:&nbsp; ??? ??? ???<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(3627, 394, 1, 1299166686, 147, 3627, 'Re: An IDL 8v8 mappack', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.35.212', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae285/u3lordbritish/1298822820475.gif?t=1299166718[/img]<br /><br />Strangle&#039;s response to hatred', 'xx', 1);
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	(3931, 420, 1, 1302801588, 214, 3931, 'Re: Seeking New Commissioner ', 'RustInPeace', 'sindeception@yahoo.com', '70.241.30.10', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Hatred link=topic=420.msg3927#msg3927 date=1302792324]<br />[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=420.msg3924#msg3924 date=1302710639]<br />InB4 some ns fag gets commissioner and drives everyone from the league.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />That was uncalled for..<br />[/quote]<br />Settle this over a clanwar. NS vs R coming soon to CHTV.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3943, 419, 1, 1303449415, 17, 3943, 'Re: IDL style mapping contest?', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '98.228.219.91', 1, 0, '', 'Sounds like fun.&nbsp; I still don&#039;t have a computer that has both an internet connection and a doom engine, but I am getting restless.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4460, 484, 16, 1312352635, 89, 4460, 'Re: Reinstate franchising and editing some of the IDL maps', 'Solar_Flare', 'cdstrangle@gmail.com', '70.241.17.228', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Hatred link=topic=484.msg4459#msg4459 date=1312351951]<br />Actually, I&#039;m glad you pointed that out. I actually meant 6, I thought 5 was the giant map with the trees in the middle, but it turns out it&#039;s 6. [/quote]<br />Stupid Ohioan, it&#039;s actually map10.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3805, 410, 14, 1300335251, 214, 3805, 'Re: Free wins....', 'RustInPeace', 'sindeception@yahoo.com', '69.154.184.218', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=nostar link=topic=410.msg3780#msg3780 date=1300316312][quote author=RustInPeace link=topic=410.msg3768#msg3768 date=1300260722]<br />Bullshit. Can you recall the times when you banned my brother or me out of priv games for no legit reason? Not to mention the unnecessary IRC bans. Heck you could pass as Vampy with your style of admin&#039;ing.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Why did I ban strangle (and by ip you)? Because, and I&#039;m working on things YOU told me, it was one of his friends fucking around in the priv server under his name. After I banned him, he (or his friend) join-spammed the server and I banned him from IRC. Oh, and you decided to omit that I apologized to you for the ban, which is fine.<br /><br />I wasn&#039;t really around for Vampy&#039;s era but if that is the kind of guy he was then I like him. I hate when people ruin perfectly good doom games.[/quote]<br />Oh no I&#039;m not talking about that minor episode. You have tossed out my brother a few times in the past and banned him for no reason(including irc). But I&#039;m specifically talking about the episode when players from green/white team joined on one side and ruined a priv match. However, instead of banning people for &#039;ruining perfectly good doom games&#039;, you banned us despite the fact he wasn&#039;t even the one who initiated the team stacking. I was cap the next round and was ready to get started when I got tossed out and banned. Sure you may have apologized but it was laughable at best considering I didn&#039;t do anything wrong. <br /><br />Also, Vampy [s]was[/s] is an emo and crybaby. He banned out of spite and without reason and usually with no provocation depending on the individual. He was also known to ban players who beat down his ass on his precious judas23 as well as players who were just better than him. He [s]was[/s] is a disturbed and unstable person and basically a piece of shit. I see a few parallels. ;D<br /><br />[img]http://209.85.48.8/1243/51/upload/p2103861.jpg[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3930, 420, 1, 1302800985, 158, 3930, 'Re: Seeking New Commissioner ', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '64.56.226.8', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=420.msg3924#msg3924 date=1302710639]<br />InB4 some ns fag gets commissioner and drives everyone from the league.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />This already happened, his name is Nostar.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3942, 400, 1, 1303444227, 163, 3942, 'Re: For my fans...', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '76.233.132.179', 1, 0, '', 'We might need to get our experts in here and run a search team on Fast. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4177, 446, 16, 1307830521, 2, 4177, 'Re: IDL.org Outage', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.37.22.79', 1, 0, '', 'C&#039;mon Ladna, don&#039;t you want to screw us just a little bit ;)', 'xx', 1);
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	(4285, 455, 16, 1310066415, 16, 4285, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '99.41.225.97', 1, 0, '', 'Apart from the fact it&#039;s illegal?&nbsp; ::)', 'xx', 1);
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	(3988, 424, 18, 1303902809, 2073, 3988, 'Re: IDL Summer 2011 Signups Open', 'Nati46', 'yerom8@walla.com', '62.0.242.129', 1, 0, '', 'Name: Nati46<br />Country/State: Israel (GMT +2)<br />Contact: Skulltag IRC (#Euro), ZDirc (#EURO)<br />Regular Availability: 7 -10 PM weekdays, 2 PM- 1:00 AM (friday), 12:00 AM - 9:00 PM (Saturday)<br />Please note that I do NOT have holiday in Sundays.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3975, 424, 18, 1303761489, 2074, 3975, 'Re: IDL Summer 2011 Signups Open', 'Altfear', 'mdmurphy29173@hotmail.com', '209.234.217.103', 1, 0, '', 'Name:Altfear <br />Country/State:<br />Email contact:Mdmurphy29173@hotmail.com<br />Instant Message Contact:odamex-irc &lt; Quakenet #IDL &lt;#Zdplayers <br />Regular Availability:<br />Anytime mostly in the afternoon M-F &lt;PST&gt; Saturday,Sunday anytime unless something comes up', 'xx', 1);
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	(3967, 424, 18, 1303668940, 216, 3967, 'Re: IDL Summer 2011 Signups Open', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '65.92.126.14', 1, 0, '', 'rofl xen<br /><br />Name: ThatsJustPrime <br />Country: Canada<br />Email contact: shma_man@hotmail.com<br />Instant Message Contact: msn (same as above) or IRC<br />Regular Availability: Most evenings (I&#039;m almost always on on weekends) ', 'xx', 1);
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	(5774, 552, 17, 1324658869, 8, 5774, 'Re: Montreal Server', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@intldoomleague.org', '108.7.78.21', 1, 0, '', 'It&#039;s been kind of shitty lately. They are still good servers. If you want to hang all of us for saying it&#039;s been shitty these past few weeks, you may as well hang Ladna too. He agrees!', 'xx', 1);
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	(4642, 483, 16, 1314475788, 213, 4642, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '97.92.40.97', 1, 0, '', 'For your convenience, now on Total Trash!<br /><br />66.225.195.41:11015<br /><br />Let&#039;s get some games in.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4726, 501, 16, 1315451042, 1322, 4726, 'Re: IDL Map Contest Voting (idl2012.wad)', 'SwiftShot', 'markwwfc1992@hotmail.com', '82.30.151.199', 1, 0, '', 'I voted for nati&#039;s map', 'xx', 1);
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	(6327, 619, 20, 1330409278, 19, 6327, 'Re: yo yo', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.224.113', 1, 0, '', 'Thank you, Chain.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4049, 433, 16, 1305378927, 0, 4049, 'Re: The Draft', 'Propane', '', '78.92.77.107', 1, 0, '', '[s]Ralphis resigns, IDL dies[/s]<br />If the dates of my finals weren&#039;t so God damn retarded, I would&#039;ve signed up, probably. It would be a shame to get rid of the 4 new teams after their first season, but considering the Doom community, I don&#039;t think you can get enough players now. Also, most of the players are newcomers or had only one experience this season, which fills me with a sense of impending [i]doom[/i].<br />[sub]And don&#039;t even bother reeling in other skulltag players, they have no sense of commitment - see all the failed leagues skulltag had[/sub]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3199, 365, 14, 1294690205, 10, 3281, 'DEMO INFRACTION LISTING', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 1295421103, 'Ralphis', 'The following is a list of each player and any relevant demo infractions. As infractions occur, they will be posted to this thread.<br /><br />The following penalties exist for each infraction:<br />[list]<br />[li][b]First Infraction[/b]: Three minute power play.[/li]<br />[li][b]Second Infraction[/b]: Player is suspended for one round of play.[/li]<br />[li][b]Third Infraction[/b]: Player is ejected from the league.[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[size=5][b]Berserker Packers[/b][/size]<br />[size=4]Jenova[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Devastation[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]RottKing[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Redshirt (Hydra)[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=5][b]Brokeback Cowboys[/b][/size]<br />[size=4]ItalianStallion[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]LordBritish[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Xenaero[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]OurHero[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=5][b]Demonic Colts[/b][/size]<br />[size=4]Caboose[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]First Infraction in week 1. 3 Min. Power Play for KNF in week 2.[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Shakal[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]X-Ray[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Aerial[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=5][b]Doom Raiders[/b][/size]<br />[size=4]Goatface[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Sabertooth[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Midian[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Climhazzard[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=5][b]Electric Bills[/b][/size]<br />[size=4]Hatred[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]RustInPeace[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Higgs[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Roscoe[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=5][b]Flag Steelers[/b][/size]<br />[size=4]Legion[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Bloodstrike[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Kov[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Beast[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=5][b]Fnordy Niners[/b][/size]<br />[size=4]Strangle[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Mikehail[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Collision[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Dosu[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=5][b]Killing Browns[/b][/size]<br />[size=4]Tai[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]No Infractions[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=4]Whiteboy[/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]First Infraction in week 1. 3 Min. 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	(3385, 383, 14, 1297326856, 10, 3385, 'Re: Week 6 (Feb 7 - Feb 13) : ZDE01 (MAP20) - Discussion and Results', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'SXP back on track, beats KNF in 3 rounds<br /><br />BBC takes over as #1, barely beats BSK in 3<br /><br />SPE pounds on FLS like everyone else, what a shame<br /><br />TKV starts their four win streak starting with DMC<br /><br />DMR continues to consider changing their name to the Lions', 'xx', 1);
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	(4287, 456, 16, 1310070929, 130, 4287, 'Re: WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE CURRENT IDL STANDINGS?', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.242', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=RustInPeace link=topic=456.msg4280#msg4280 date=1310011854]<br />With that said, I don&#039;t see them winning weeks 6-8 and perhaps 9 if strangle gets his head straight and gets his team together.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />That means you do see them winning weeks 5 and 9 right? that is a 4-5 record. That record will probably get them into the playoffs as the 4 seed assuming BSK remains a constant.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2295, 254, 1, 1282189808, 163, 2295, 'Re: Most Heroic IDL games', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '72.240.150.213', 1, 0, '', 'I have been around longer than the IDL (and longer that most people in it) but this is actually my first full season. Needless to say, there aren&#039;t too many moments I remember that would be deemed as heroic and such. Rus (FLS) taking a flag back in the final minutes vs us (EBL) to tie up Game 3 to avoid another FLS loss was pretty epic (though it&#039;s debatable on whether it was poor positioning and bad technique and base clearing by our D or Rus making a superman play). <br /><br />The one moment I think I&#039;ll probably always remember as a DooMer is how Whiteboy completely shreaded SUC in our IDC Conference Finals Playoff match (EBL 5-1, 4-0 btw). He was simply brilliant in every category you could imagine. The play where he hid on the outskirts of SUC&#039;s base in the midst of a flag stand-off for at least 2 or 3 minutes was one of the most epic plays I&#039;ve ever seen. It&#039;s incredibly intelligent despite the risk because most players would never think to look right outside their base for the player holding their flag. His performance carried us and sparked our D to damn near shut-out a very dynamic offense. So yeah, I&#039;ll always remember that. It&#039;s not &quot;heroic,&quot; but it sure was one hell of a game by white. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(2302, 258, 3, 1282268757, 10, 2302, 'ATTN: PLEASE READ', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'Look at your posts, now back to mine, now back to yours, now back to mine. Sadly, yours aren&#039;t mine. But if you stopped posting about other things and made this your post, yours could be like mine. Look down, back up. Where are you? You&#039;re on the IDL Forums, reading the post your posts could be like. I&#039;m on a computer.', 'exclamation', 1);
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	(3628, 398, 14, 1299169655, 55, 3628, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'ReXn0r', 'yannik_marcos@hotmail.com', '189.152.101.197', 1, 0, '', 'I second nostar about tony...<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(6328, 619, 20, 1330409668, 37, 6328, 'Re: yo yo', 'Tony', 'red.doomer@gmail.com', '98.209.167.80', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Tai link=topic=619.msg6326#msg6326 date=1330405871]<br />Dew, suck my black dick. Thank you. &lt;3<br />[/quote]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2680, 296, 15, 1286476399, 0, 2680, 'Re: Blue Division Results &amp; Demos', 'Propane', '', '78.92.76.179', 1, 0, '', '^ My demos <br />King1+failed judas attempt: http://www.mediafire.com/?24uzxi4gqvp6a1n<br />Judas: http://www.mediafire.com/?0gr5ozvg7v29tld', 'xx', 1);
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	(6083, 592, 20, 1327513240, 10, 6083, 'Re: Week 4 (JAN 23 - JAN 29) : IDLCONTEST20 (MAP19) - Discussion and Results', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '98.225.144.111', 1, 0, '', '[b]Brokeback Cowboys vs Ricochet Rockets (DIV)[/b]<br />Likely a close game. Could go either way but this map will suit RR&#039;s running style better IF they can play with credible defense.<br /><br />[b]2-1 RR [/b]<br /><br />[b]Contraband vs The Cult of Bestism (DIV)[/b]<br />Saber&#039;s team is getting into a rhythm and should be able to bust one off this week provided they can stop CTB&#039;s runners. I believe TCB is a better offensive team than most in the league, even if they haven&#039;t shown it thus far. This should be their coming out party.<br /><br />[b]2-0 TCB [/b]<br /><br />[b]Plasma Dicks United vs Killing Browns (DIV)[/b]<br />Like TCB, I think that PDU will grab their first win this week. In a map that I consider more about finesse than power, Rus will be able to set up all over defensively here. Meanwhile, the sprawling nature of the map should benefit Turska and Ladna on the front end compared to the more straight forward maps we&#039;ve seen the previous two weeks. Tai will defend from his enemy&#039;s base much like week 2. <br /><br />[b]2-1 PDU[/b]<br /><br />[b]We&#039;re All Doomed vs Mass Destruction (ICF)[/b]<br />Unlike many, I am not as optimistic about MAD&#039;s chances this week. I hope to God they can prove me wrong though! For what MAD has in frag power, I feel they like in smooth running technique. This is a brute force team and I believe that may work against them this week. While WAD has certainly underperformed relative to the pre-season chatter surrounding them, they are not a slouch team and are due for their first two round win.<br /><br />WAD 2-0<br /><br /><br />[b]Fnordy Niners vs Super Shotgun Spurs (ICF)[/b]<br />SPOILER OF THE WEEK. KNF has come out swinging and can definitely beat SGS here if they can set up properly. Although KNF&#039;s captain Strangle has been playing stellar for the first third of the season, this game is really about the rest of his line up. Will Whiteboy be able to successfully slow down SGS&#039;s flag attempts and will Legion be able to put up another convincing offensive performance? Although I&#039;m not ready to crown KNF as a contender for the IDL title just yet, they have shown serious improvement through the three weeks so far and are one of the hottest teams in the IDL right now. KNF gets away with a huge win and knocks off the last undefeated squad.<br /><br />2-1 KNF', 'xx', 1);
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	(2307, 259, 1, 1282282388, 0, 2307, 'Re: Thoughts on IDL going advertised', 'Fastidious', '', '76.217.99.81', 1, 0, '', 'You guys could always toss up a private server if that happens.&nbsp; Just a thought, hell couldn&#039;t Ralphis still play matches/practice on a private server?', 'xx', 1);
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	(4643, 496, 18, 1314574057, 8, 4643, 'Re: Season 10 / Summer 2011 Playoffs - MASTERBOWL X - Discussion and Results ', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '98.234.131.145', 1, 0, '', '[size=6]Sunday, September 4th @ 8pm[/size]', 'xx', 1);
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	(8872, 798, 3, 1365735521, 2303, 8872, 'Re: Hello', 'Watermelon', 'watermelonst@hotmail.com', '99.239.182.148', 1, 0, '', 'i don&#039;t think you&#039;re on the right track for this above&nbsp; :&#039;( :&#039;(', 'xx', 1);
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	(7085, 687, 22, 1340402038, 267, 7085, 'Free Agents/Trade History Discussion', 'RecKle$$_', 'Aesthesic@hotmail.com', '189.135.80.99', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=LordBritish link=topic=686.msg7083#msg7083 date=1340389546]<br />they definitely have a better shot now that you are gone<br />[/quote]<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/4PY3y.jpg[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(6329, 578, 20, 1330409776, 19, 6329, 'Re: The POWERHOUSE!! - Montreal''s IDL Set', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.224.113', 1, 0, '', 'Servers C and D added.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2245, 250, 12, 1281769273, 20, 2245, 'Re: IDL S2010 Wildcard Playoffs (Aug 2 - Aug 8.)', 'Mantis-X', 'nesman90@aol.com', '98.25.82.179', 1, 0, '', 'Bummer indeed .... The best team Xen has ever had and it doesn&#039;t get to live out to its potential apparently... Everything has already been said up there, but I will say.....<br /><br />I&#039;M A FREE AGENT AND AVAILABLE FOR ALL ACTIVITIES THIS WEEKEND OOOHHEEEHHAAHOOOOOOOO&nbsp; 8) ;D :D<br /><br />JK... Go get em Dewwwwww&nbsp; :-*', 'xx', 1);
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	(2248, 250, 12, 1281770442, 10, 2248, 'Re: IDL S2010 Wildcard Playoffs (Aug 2 - Aug 8.)', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'Anyway, this isn&#039;t really an IDL Board issue and is more of something that I have to deal with and doing so is very easy:<br /><br />1) There isn&#039;t going to be a playoff forfeit. Period. The game is getting played, 3v3.<br /><br />2) If Xen quit, then he quit. Xen has put a lot of time into the IDL and I respect him for that, but no player is bigger than the league and the show goes on. In Xen&#039;s absence, I&#039;ll consider Hatred as the active captain of EBL for the remainder of their season since he stepped up and claimed it.<br /><br />3) The game will likely be rescheduled for Sunday afternoon. In the event that it can&#039;t happen this way for some reason, I&#039;ll postpone it to the following week since the BBC/BSK game is having severe scheduling issues as well. In this instance, everything would just shift back a week from scheduled.<br /><br />Hope this clears some things up for everybody and allows us to close out the final three games of this season fair and square.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6638, 639, 21, 1333720951, 145, 6638, 'Re: IDL-R Invite List/Signup Thread', 'Fluffles', 'petefredericknewton@hotmail.co.uk', '86.183.24.223', 1, 0, '', 'Name: Fluffles<br />Country: GB<br />IRC #IDL<br />Regular Availability: Late afternoon for american time, friday nights possibly evenings. Not available much on weekends.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2303, 258, 3, 1282276236, 35, 2303, 'Re: ATTN: PLEASE READ', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.240.85.23', 1, 0, '', 'what', 'xx', 1);
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	(3386, 382, 1, 1297446961, 213, 3386, 'Re: Top 5 EGOS', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '168.91.255.100', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;m only interested in unmentioned egos, and not just egos about DooM, but about personhood.<br /><br />[b]5. OurHero[/b]<br /><br />OurHero is the Kathy Griffin of IDL: A D-List player with an A-List confidence in his own abilities, he&#039;s the guy who spams &quot;raped&quot; from the bottom of the winning team in pub.&nbsp; Having received the good grace of being drafted by BBC this season, he can comfortably take credit for all of stall&#039;s frags and all of brit&#039;s flags, even in games he didn&#039;t play.&nbsp; Pretty big ego.<br /><br />[b]4. Dr_Noob[/b]<br /><br />Dr_Noob is the Suge Knight of IDL: premium unleaded gangster.&nbsp; He may not be VERY good or show up VERY often for games or practice, but he has a super deep voice, which is probably fake, and if you say anything to him at all, even how gr8 he is, he will tell you to suck his prolic cock [sic?].&nbsp; He loves himself, and I&#039;m guessing his ego is almost half the size of Suge Knight&#039;s prolic cock.<br /><br />[b]3. RustK1ng[/b]<br /><br />RustK1ing, or RustInPeace, or whatever he&#039;s calling himself today, is the Russell Crowe of IDL--dim and abrasive, but large and brutal.&nbsp; His early draft came as a surprise to everybody except himself, and in spite of many a pessimistic prediction, he has helped raise EBL to a .500 avg.&nbsp; Vying for rookie of the year, he has in his first season of IDL already mastered each and every map, perfectly knowing how to play any position on every map with commanding authority over any IDL veteran.&nbsp; Like Tai, a game has never been lost because of him.&nbsp; He&#039;s a truly skilled second-tier player, and after 15 years of online dooming, who wouldn&#039;t be?&nbsp;  One of my favorite quotes this season: &quot;rust is making hatred look like robertk.&quot;<br /> <br />[b]2. Sabertooth[/b]<br /><br />The other white MB champion of S2010.&nbsp; Saber is the Bradgelina of IDL.&nbsp; That&#039;s right, he&#039;s Brad AND Angelina.&nbsp; He&#039;s quick, sassy, beautiful, and he&#039;s the best, no doubt about it.&nbsp; You might think that Tai and Jenova are arrogant, but they are merely Saber&#039;s adopted African babies, making him the father of all egos.<br /><br />[b]1. Xenaero[/b]<br /><br />DD is the Andy Dick of IDL.&nbsp; Listening to him go on in #idl, you get the sense that he&#039;s young, small, sexually charged, perpetually hallucinating, and has spent more time on the internet in his short life than Steve Jobs.&nbsp; After gaining lasting fame as the 56K champion, he upgraded his internet connection and amazed everyone by [b]not getting any better at all[/b].&nbsp; Now that his ping is 100+ again, he can safely hide behind his connex and maintain his status as formidable mid on one of the IDL&#039;s most talented teams.&nbsp; In addition to this, he is supreme commander of all idl.gifs and idl.jpgs, and may at any time ridicule other teams by making their megaman sprites as gay as he pleases.<br /><br />Honorable Mention:<br /> <br />[b]Rottking[/b]<br /><br />Rottking is the John Samuel Waters of IDL.<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(4286, 455, 16, 1310070160, 130, 4286, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.242', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=455.msg4283#msg4283 date=1310059218]<br />Hate, I think you should lay low for a while.&nbsp; You traded away your best player for crap.&nbsp; Pretty much given up any chance of getting to the playoffs, or hell, win a game even.&nbsp; This tells me you cut off your balls, and you&#039;ve bent over for every team that still plays you for the remainder of the season.&nbsp; I expect this from someone like legion, not from you.&nbsp; <br />Very uncharacteristic. How much did he pay you?&nbsp; ???<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Hate&#039;s team is no worse now than it was pre-trade. He still has 1 good player and 1 new player. I didn&#039;t see you bawwwwwing when Mantis/Marax went for deww/MadV. A lot of people thought that was a lopsided trade as well. Oh wait that one benefited you.<br /><br />Also why would anyone lay low here. Your drunk canuck opinion is both wrong and meaningless. I&#039;d venture a guess that if Hate&#039;s team shows up he will win at least 2 games this season. If he wins 4 he&#039;ll most likely make playoffs. What were you saying again?', 'xx', 1);
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	(6084, 592, 20, 1327516458, 19, 6084, 'Re: Week 4 (JAN 23 - JAN 29) : IDLCONTEST20 (MAP19) - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '76.4.116.89', 1, 0, '', '[b]Super Chargers (1-1-1)[/b] vs [i]Philanthropic Blowhards (0-3-0)[/i]<br />[b]Ralph, Oath, Tony, Donut[/b] vs [i]LB, Armour, MadV, Mobius[/i]<br />A lot of this game depends on LordBritish being able to rally his team following Dr_Noob&#039;s dismissal from the league, which certainly hurts PBH greatly. Neither teams have raw power that would severely overwhelm the other, so this match will come down to adrenaline and teamwork, especially at the middle, which has proven in practice to be the point you absolutely must control. Lots of things have to go in favor of PBH for them to beat SUC in my opinion, including unrivaled sphere control.<br />[u][b]SUC 2-0[/b][/u]<br /><br />[i]Brokeback Cowboys (2-1-0)[/i] vs [b]Ricochet Rockets (1-1-1)[/b]<br />[i]Prime, Mantis, Gyross, Soul[/i] vs [b]Rust, Gilga, Mass, Reck[/b]<br />This is another matchup where raw power doesn&#039;t come as much into play as it is the teamwork, or lack thereof. I know that players like Gyross and Soul have impressive powerup timing and control compared to most American players, and that could be a great boon for BBC, but what I&#039;m concerned about is will their D/M force be capable enough to cover all angles at once to allow their runners with limited firepower due to latency to escape from those fragathon bases alive? I don&#039;t see it happening without BBC being caught far out of position by the capable Ricochet Rockets, but I do expect troubles in the first round due to a penalty served by MassVC, who is arguably one of the best players on their team.<br />[u][b]RRS 2-1[/b][/u]<br /><br />[b]Contraband (1-1-1)[/b] vs [i]The Cult of Bestism (0-2-1)[/i]<br />[b]Bones, Dev, Higgs, Denny[/b] vs [i]Saber, Jake, Nosturi, Blue[/i]<br />Well here&#039;s the thing. TCB is kind of down in dumps-ville from what I can tell due to repeated losses and general lack of wins, while I doubt Denny wants to repeat last week&#039;s disastrous connection problems that some claim cost them the game outright. The interesting thing about the way this map is laid out is that no one defender can lock down all entrances at once, unlike last week&#039;s map. Even with connection problems I can see Denny scoring many flags with Bones and DevastatioN locking down mid play. Dev in particular poses a large problem for all of TCB, his forte is spawn control and that is a significant issue with many spawns being of the forward type. I&#039;m predicting a steamroll.<br />[u][b]CTB 2-0[/b][/u]<br /><br />[i]Plasma Dicks United (0-3-0)[/i] vs [b]Killing Browns (2-1-0)[/b]<br />[i]Rus, Turska, Ladna, Devi[/i] vs [b]Tai, Blair, Junior, Null[/b]<br />I&#039;m trying to think of good things to say about PDU, but as of late it&#039;s been nothing but hardship for all involved. There&#039;s been little to no practice, and what practice there has been shows that there is a significant amount of work needed to be put forth by the team to get it together and compete in the league as a unit. Turska is a powerful player and I expect him to mainly run sphere control in this match, while Tai and Blair focus on trying to lock down the mid in its entirety, freeing up Junior or Null to run flags against a pinned-in defense. There&#039;s no strong defenders in PDU&#039;s lineup and you absolutely need powerful fraggers in this type of map to maintain any type of zone control. Another slaughter.<br />[u][b]KGB 2-0[/b][/u]<br /><br />[i]Fnordy Niners (2-1-0)[/i] vs [b]Super Shotgun Spurs (3-0-0)[/b]<br />[i]Strangle, White, Legion, WhiteMike[/i] vs [b]Hate, Stall, KF, BloodStrike[/b]<br />This game is going to be depressing to watch, to be perfectly honest. How on earth is anyone except White going to have a chance to defend against Hatred or Killforce? Both of them are potential MVPs in this match as running circles around KNF&#039;s defense or lack thereof will not be hard to achieve. If White is their only hope, there&#039;s not much hope overall, since he won&#039;t be able to cover every position at once. Even if Strangle and White manage to hold their flag back at their base, how is Legion or WhiteMike going to get past the wall of Bloodstrike and Stallion, two of the most potent fraggers in the league? There&#039;s no denying SGS&#039; pure frag power can keep most teams at bay, and in this map, where power can mean everything, it will lead to a very quick war of attrition.<br />[u][b]SGS 2-0[/b][/u]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3244, 364, 14, 1295031036, 0, 3244, 'Re: IDL Streaming/Casting', 'Fastidious', '', '76.224.113.57', 1, 0, '', 'Hopefully someone can take it upon themselves to cast/stream as I&#039;m leaving the country on Monday.&nbsp; Just make your stream, spectate a match and post the url in #idl.&nbsp; Easy.', 'xx', 1);
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	(7326, 715, 17, 1345457515, 4, 7326, 'Re: I''m banned', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '99.32.168.118', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Xyltol link=topic=715.msg7325#msg7325 date=1345451536]<br />[quote author=Ru5tK1ng]<br />In his defense, that is a legit statement. Nostar did get away with his breaking of the demo rule. However, it is not entirely Bones&#039; fault as seeing there was a demo cop at that time.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Getting away with breaking any kind of rule to this extent (especially for such a period that Nostar did) shows negligence in the administrators and boards of the time; they obviously didn&#039;t do their jobs..so he abused it.<br /><br />[quote author=Ru5tK1ng]<br />Regardless, this is old news and it&#039;s done with. You&#039;re two seasons too late for your commentary strangle.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />It&#039;s never too late to learn from past mistakes nor the past negligence of poor administration. They let Nostar get away with this in &quot;old news&quot; as you say, so why wouldn&#039;t it be allowed in &quot;new news&quot;?<br /><br />[quote author=&quot;Ru5tK1ng]<br />However, the issue of nostar demo dodging has gone past the point of importance.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />These points are never past the point of importance when the Administration/Board let it go and show no sign of admitting nor solving of it.<br /><br />[quote author=&quot;Strangle&quot;]<br />2012-08-17&nbsp; 13:29:42&nbsp; &lt;strangl&gt;&nbsp;  considering he didn&#039;t make nostar upload his demos in the past season, looks like he can&#039;t make anyone do anything!<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Just to further this..Bones doesn&#039;t seem to mind going back on his word after talking with both captains in the event of a change (I suppose as Rust would say holds no merit anymore), as in DG&#039;s last season against Prime on map09 Bones let Xenaero control the entire team when DG/Bones/Prime agreed to postpone the match in the event that myself and DG could not make the game (which ended up happening), and Prime didn&#039;t agree to it when it was actually necessary..but Bones forced our team to play because Xenaero was willing to play &quot;with or without his team&quot;, while I was talking to Bones about the circumstances involved (which ended up costing us a loss on a game that should not have happened).<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I demand to know where you&#039;ve been mister &gt;:(', 'xx', 1);
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	(7086, 687, 22, 1340403743, 1328, 7086, 'Free Agents/Trade History Discussion', 'Mobius', 'hustler_0ne@hotmail.com', '67.86.18.219', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=LordBritish link=topic=686.msg7083#msg7083 date=1340389546]<br />they definitely have a better shot now that you are gone<br />[/quote]<br /><br />[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/62259079/Reactionface2/23_methodman_lgl.jpg[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3245, 361, 14, 1295032163, 19, 3245, 'Re: Who will be rookie of the year (season)?', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.7.88', 1, 0, '', 'Out of all the players I&#039;ve seen so far I&#039;d probably have to say either Turska or Rust, although I think due to ping constraints and other reasons related to his current team, Rust may make more of an impact for his team this season than Turska for his.<br /><br />[quote author=Aerial link=topic=361.msg3193#msg3193 date=1294624499]<br />well i&#039;m gonna win it assuming that people actually pick the person who deserves it, so gg<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Wow.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2244, 250, 12, 1281768002, 163, 2244, 'Re: IDL S2010 Wildcard Playoffs (Aug 2 - Aug 8.)', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '72.240.150.213', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;m not entirely sure what to make of Xen&#039;s post but given the fact that he disconnected from the server, quit IRC immediately and backed it all up with this post, I&#039;ll treat this as him tending his resignation as the Captain of the ElectricBills. As a result, I will be taking all duties over as Captain. Any and all EBL-related scenarios [b]should[/b] be brought to me, no longer to him (if he comes around even).<br /><br />I&#039;ve never dislike Xen and have always thought of him as a cool kid. I won&#039;t dig deep into this but I will say this:<br /><br />I can understand being annoyed with being a topic of hilarity occasionally, but you can&#039;t always take things so serious. Part of being a competitive player at this level in any venue of high-level skill requires that you aren&#039;t so emotionally invested in outsiders comments and complaints. I personally don&#039;t care what anyone thinks of me, all I can say is that anyone standing in my way is going to get rocked. I would hope all IDL captains (and players for that matter) would have this attitude. Plus, having thick skin really makes a difference. <br /><br />So I&#039;ll leave it at this, Xen: I&#039;m sorry things got a bit out of control and I still like you but this is probably best for you and The ElectricBills Franchise alike. I appreciate the time you&#039;ve put into this but it&#039;s apparent that both sides need to part and move on. Best of luck in life, DooM and any other venue you associate yourself with. It&#039;s been a blast.<br /><br />As for him forfeiting on our behalf: I&#039;m not sure what IDL rules constitute in a situation such as this. I will go out on a limb here and assume nothing this strange has ever happened before so I would hope if rules discriminate against the entirety of a team that feels differently, the rules could be bended. Neither White or myself are on board with this as I&#039;m sure Dewww wouldn&#039;t be either. So, whether rules acknowledge this as a legitimate forfeit or not, I hereby void his motion to forfeit our match to SUC and we will play once the right schedule for our teams have been determined. If anyone on the IDL board disagrees with this then I really hope you realize that you&#039;re allowing a semi-final match to go unplayed for the sake of someone&#039;s emotional break-down. I&#039;m assuming that won&#039;t be the case as you guys are pretty good with this stuff but I merely thought bringing that up would serve as a nice reminder to what&#039;s at stake here for the Leagues PR. Thank you for time. <br /><br />-Hate ', 'xx', 1);
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	(3387, 382, 1, 1297454813, 19, 3387, 'Re: Top 5 EGOS', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.2.185', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=MassVC link=topic=382.msg3386#msg3386 date=1297446961]<br />After gaining lasting fame as the 56K champion, he upgraded his internet connection and amazed everyone by [b]not getting any better at all[/b].<br />[/quote]<br /><br />While the rest is incredibly accurate, I contest this snippet. I got a lil&#039; better. :3', 'xx', 1);
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	(8841, 834, 1, 1364909628, 2303, 8841, 'Re: Would you play in the IJL?', 'Watermelon', 'watermelonst@hotmail.com', '192.197.54.29', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=capo link=topic=834.msg8840#msg8840 date=1364909390]<br />looks like jenova become poor guy , or is this actually happening ?<br />[/quote]<br />We&#039;ve all signed up, where have you been?<br />dumbass', 'xx', 1);
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	(3630, 399, 14, 1299171623, 19, 3630, 'Re: Season Finale - Week 9 ZDCTFMap08 (Map08) - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.252.85', 1, 0, '', 'No predictions this week because I&#039;m still mad over map08 prac<br /><br />I&#039;m also absorbed by Crysis 2 demo. Maximum &lt;noun&gt;', 'xx', 1);
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	(3932, 136, 1, 1302822345, 19, 3932, 'Re: It''s coming', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.249.152', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://www.dumpyourphoto.com/files2/56001/pye.jpg[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3944, 400, 1, 1303449563, 17, 3944, 'Re: For my fans...', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '98.228.219.91', 1, 0, '', 'I stopped by Stanley Steemer the other day, realized you weren&#039;t there, and wondered where you were.<br /><br />That question answered I can now go to bed.&nbsp; Good thing I don&#039;t have school tomorrow.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4458, 484, 16, 1312347637, 214, 4458, 'Re: Reinstate franchising and editing some of the IDL maps', 'RustInPeace', 'sindeception@yahoo.com', '70.241.17.228', 1, 1312347997, 'RustInPeace', '[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=484.msg4453#msg4453 date=1312339384]<br />What happens when both flags are in there?&nbsp; Is that fun to you for 7 mins or whatever like it happened in one match?&nbsp; Obviously instead of adding lava switches to everything we should be adding one way teleport dead ends, since Tai thinks they are a credit to player skill.&nbsp; You are also suggesting the defense protect the enemy team&#039;s teleporter in their base?&nbsp; Maybe that&#039;s why you always leave defense, haha.<br />[/quote]<br />You don&#039;t even play anymore why do you bother posting? A standoff like that doesn&#039;t even last for more than 2 or 3 minutes usually. Just as you said, it only happened in 1 match out of how many? It&#039;s usually hard to make it from the enemy base back to your own teleporter room when you got enemies patrolling the mid while you wait for the slow ass lift. As hatred said, its meant to be a grind-fest anyway.<br /><br />[quote=hatred]But yeah, I&#039;m totally with Ladna on this one. People who&#039;ve suggested IDL needs new maps or need to edit the current ones are incorrect. The IDL has done nothing but introduce various maps into it&#039;s map-pack and we&#039;ve either loved them and kept them or we&#039;ve hated them and ditched them forever (probably what will end up happening to map05 this season).[/quote]You&#039;re out of your damn mind. Maps like 10, 11, 6, and 24 would go first before 5. Don&#039;t hate on 5 just because you got spanked there by a South American and a swamp man.<br /><br />[quote=Jkist3]Jkist types crap about lava.[/quote]<br />Also to add upon jk&#039;s brilliant ideas, I suggest for next season that we try our best to keep 12 teams. Once we do that, we can change the scheduling so that only division games are played. Each team will play their divisional rival twice and the top seed in each division will advance to the playoffs. It would make for short and sweet season utilizing a unique model that does not resemble zddl at all.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4689, 499, 1, 1315280920, 1322, 4689, 'Re: North America Vs Europe', 'SwiftShot', 'markwwfc1992@hotmail.com', '82.30.151.199', 1, 0, '', 'I wish i had the recording of Jenova&#039;s reaction to reading this on teamspeak.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4645, 483, 16, 1314595470, 0, 4645, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'Fastidious', '', '75.63.62.49', 1, 0, '', 'http://www.speedyshare.com/files/30082110/fastcontestmap1.wad<br />Should be final version.&nbsp; Changes include, texture alignment, new base color textures in the beserk tunnel, shortening the beserk tunnel significantly, changing lava damage to 20 a second, adding steps out of lava, adding a middle connection over lava, and removing one spawn near ssg.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8279, 815, 17, 1360370762, 157, 8279, 'LIMITATION??', 'Legion_', 'skulltaglegion@hotmail.com', '108.12.69.67', 1, 0, '', '.................but the spread is vanilla..................', 'xx', 1);
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	(8347, 823, 25, 1360612477, 213, 8347, 'Re: Week 6 - IDLCONT2013-03: Untitled (FEB 11 - FEB 17) - Discussion and Results', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '97.92.40.97', 1, 1360614829, 'MassVC', '[quote author=Watermelon link=topic=823.msg8346#msg8346 date=1360608681]<br />Is this map25?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Yes.<br /><br />I predict that one of Ralph&#039;s predictions will be incorrect.&nbsp; (The sure thing!)', 'xx', 1);
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	(3246, 372, 3, 1295036096, 1996, 3246, 'Re: Hiya', 'TKZ', 'CapnAnna@hotmail.com', '206.210.225.131', 1, 0, '', 'Probably why I&#039;m gonna try a new name for Zdaemon. No one really knows me here unless they play Skulltag.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2297, 257, 1, 1282236489, 35, 2297, 'Re: fancy fuckin ctf', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.240.85.23', 1, 0, '', 'is there alligators', 'xx', 1);
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	(6330, 619, 20, 1330416261, 19, 6330, 'Re: yo yo', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.224.113', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=RustInPeace link=topic=619.msg6324#msg6324 date=1330403653]<br />It was to prove a point of how you guys are on power trips. Xen ain&#039;t the captian, he doesn&#039;t get to decide when MAD plays. Doomguy got upstaged by a control freak.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I upstaged Doomguy? We were given the option to play with who we could muster or forfeit within scant minutes. Sorry I appeared to be a control freak 2 minutes from when we were probably going to be forfeit. Do you have any instances from where I was a control freak during my board tenure? I get the personal attacks and they can apply to me as a player.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6639, 642, 17, 1333735005, 11, 6639, 'Re: Hatred won a masterbowl', 'Doomguy666', 'xdoomguy666x@hotmail.com', '76.198.250.175', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Tony link=topic=642.msg6636#msg6636 date=1333649326]<br />[quote author=Sabertooth link=topic=642.msg6619#msg6619 date=1333350073]<br />Shaq Fu vs The Sex Gods map11 best game of all time.<br />[/quote]<br />Do you still have a demo for that game?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I used to have a demo from that game but I haven&#039;t watched it in a long time.... I have so many demos that it&#039;s got to be lost in the archives... I wouldn&#039;t mind finding it again.........', 'xx', 1);
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	(3388, 382, 1, 1297472432, 38, 3388, 'Re: Top 5 EGOS', 'Sabertooth', 'ssj4chazou@hotmail.com', '66.211.41.122', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=MassVC link=topic=382.msg3386#msg3386 date=1297446961]<br /><br />&nbsp; You might think that Tai and Jenova are arrogant, but they are merely Saber&#039;s adopted African babies, making him the father of all egos.<br /><br />[/quote]<br /><br />Ya these chitlins wouldn&#039;t be anywhere without me.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2308, 259, 1, 1282285137, 19, 2308, 'Re: Thoughts on IDL going advertised', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.3.36', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ladna]<br />everyone in the IDL administration is banned from the forums[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=Ladna]<br />[url=http://forums.zdaemon.org/viewtopic.php?t=13438]You should read his post first though[/url].[/quote]<br />*click*<br /><br />[quote author=ZDaemon Forums]You have been banned from this forum.<br />Please contact the webmaster or board administrator for more information.[/quote]<br /><br />[img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/190810/1282285118.gif[/img]<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(2310, 259, 1, 1282285780, 7, 2310, 'Re: Thoughts on IDL going advertised', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'http://pastebin.com/vcNvdSb4 - Kilgore&#039;s post<br /><br />I&#039;m personally fine with a &quot;fallback&quot; unadvertised server.&nbsp; I don&#039;t get the feeling that the ZD administration is though.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2312, 258, 3, 1282286573, 73, 2312, 'Re: ATTN: PLEASE READ', 'Quiksilver', 'joshbryantmusic@gmail.com', '68.57.224.163', 1, 0, '', 'THIS THREAD IS NOW DIAMONDS<br /><br />ALSO - [url=http://oldspicevoicemail.com/]http://oldspicevoicemail.com/[/url]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2313, 259, 1, 1282315811, 61, 2313, 'Re: Thoughts on IDL going advertised', 'Chain', 'luis_miguelito_@hotmail.com', '70.226.160.89', 1, 0, '', 'It is now apparent more than ever that the league and ZD won&#039;t come to any sort of &quot;live and let live&quot; agreement in the public eye, and that&#039;s completely fine. The only reason I even bothered to try this is because IIRC people in the yoyo threads (especially some from here) mentioned that they would like for IDL to take place on public servers. [url=http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?topic=179.msg1584#msg1584]I&#039;ve been wanting for the league to get public exposure for a while now[/url] and offered a couple basic ideas on how Ralphis could still play while having a decent amount of exposure on the ZD master, however this didn&#039;t pan out for whatever reason.<br /><br />The league is doing fine as it is, but it was only that things took a turn for the nasty when people went over to the ZD forums trying to somehow connect ZD&#039;s activity level to Ralphis being banned/unbanned. That&#039;s a nice gesture, but you should have known no good was going to come out of that argument. Later on, the crybaby squad was in full swing retaliating over the loss of a thread by posting:<br /><br />[quote]really, we love to be assfucked by kilgore and the other guys, they do it every night, we&#039;re zd cum sluts![/quote]<br /><br />Yeah, funny for about a second, but it reeks of RFA &quot;humor&quot; right after they get raped or don&#039;t get their way.<br /><br />It was a good effort at first--to try and raise the issue of IDL becoming advertised/offer ideas for ZD growth/etc. in those yoyo threads, but thanks to some ZDrama-loving emos (Jamie and Quik mostly), the shit hit the fan quite quickly and repeatedly, even after being warned. Feeling strongly about an issue is one thing, and it can be good in some cases, but losing your composure while representing a group of players (i.e. IDL) puts everyone in the shitter--not just you.<br /><br />I suppose it was for the above reasons that earlier in the week, while advertising a friendly 2v2 TDM priv on #zdplayers just once, I get a swift and sudden PM from Raider himself asking me [b]not[/b] to advertise game servers on their IRC network that aren&#039;t listed on the master list. Fair enough, but now I&#039;m assuming the IDL won&#039;t even have an IRC presence (this means no inviting players via PM or in other channels) and the threads on the ZD forums at the start/end of each season will likely get no love whatsoever.<br /><br />Some stuff I&#039;d like to clear up:<br /><br />[quote]&lt;Ralphis&gt;	Chaindude&#039;s explanation is BS anyway, I tipped my hand in the creation of IDL to help collapse the economy of Greece<br />&lt;Ralphis&gt;	It was a precalculated butterfly effect sort of thing[/quote]<br /><br />You can say anything you want about the creation of the IDL because practically everything around its inception is water under the bridge now that the league has &quot;made it.&quot; I quite remember a battered-yet-humble Ralphis coming to me about a league idea where people can get good while becoming friends. Now, if you are admitting to being a two-face, that&#039;s okay but don&#039;t go around passing judgment on other people for what you consider to be some &quot;unfair exile&quot; from ZD by the &quot;[b]hypocritical[/b], heavy-handed ZD administration!&quot;<br /><br />I guess I can also say whatever I want about IDL&#039;s creation, like it was born out of UD getting ragdolled by DX at will and that I felt pity upon you when you came to me about the league, so I let it happen so you and your buddies could get some target practice. It&#039;s perhaps a bit harsh, but far more realistic than your &quot;I&#039;ll-give-myself-far-too-much-credit&quot; version that you were trying to mastermind the death of ZD. If you had moved the league to Skulltag or Odamex, then your statement would have more weight. Actually, I don&#039;t know that much of what you say has any credence, because:<br /><br />[quote=Ralphis]I sent Kilgore an apology email a few years ago (where I never asked or even hinted that I wanted to be unbanned) just on principle, but his heart burns with black hatred.[/quote]<br /><br />...Why send an apology e-mail to &quot;the black devil&quot; if you were not in the wrong? It just doesn&#039;t add up with who you are--or at least, with who you make yourself out to be.<br /><br />One final thing:<br /><br />[quote]&lt;Ralphis&gt;	Maybe that&#039;s to Chaindude&#039;s dismay since he likely had to twist a lot of balls to get that post out of Kilgore[/quote]<br /><br />It&#039;s not to my dismay that Kilgore&#039;s post doesn&#039;t go hand-in-hand with the IDL&#039;s plans now and in the future. What&#039;s disappointing to me is that people are hard-headed (that goes for both sides). I have tried and will continue to find ways for IDL and ZD to get along, but just because I don&#039;t see progress right away, I won&#039;t throw myself and others under the bus by making stupid decisions.<br /><br />There seem to be a lot of misconceptions about the way I try to mediate and talk to people. The basic rule I follow is to treat others as you would want to be treated. Here&#039;s an example:<br /><br />[quote]&lt;DX_Chain&gt;	hey btw<br />&lt;DX_Chain&gt;	don&#039;t you think it would be a nice gesture to let people know that you weren&#039;t 100% right on the idl thing on the forums? (after what i explained in PM)<br />&lt;DX_Chain&gt;	my pov is just that i dont think there should be such bad blood between people<br />&lt;DX_Chain&gt;	for misunderstandings like that<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	ok<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	i&#039;m not going to make inflammatory posts<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	i&#039;ll acknowledge the error about the creation of idl<br />&lt;Kilgore&gt;	and i&#039;ll also state publicly what i told you yesterday[/quote]<br /><br />That&#039;s hardly a twist of balls IMO.<br /><br />I know that some people might have wanted Kilgore to post a public apology and have him cry on his knees, but what can I say? Things take time, and after some of the ZDrama from the yoyo threads during his vacation, I don&#039;t blame him for being strong-willed.<br /><br />Patience is a virtue.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(2315, 259, 1, 1282329911, 2, 2315, 'Re: Thoughts on IDL going advertised', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.52.171', 1, 0, '', 'Chains points are all pretty valid I think, a lot of the stuff pushing us apart isn&#039;t just a disagreement over principles, its childish actions by some of our own players.&nbsp; Ralphis sort of provides an example that others emulate to do stupid pointless things.&nbsp; Quik is all gung-ho about IDL but I don&#039;t think he even understands half of what is going on here, he is just rebel without a cause.&nbsp; Ralphis himself causes a lot of trouble, it would be nice to think he would change, but I am not really sure its a possibility at this point, or that it would actually be a good thing for the IDL (most of his drama is kept outside of the IDL, he is quite sporting within its confines).<br /><br />Then you have the most worthless of actions cropping up to set any progress we had back even further, namely the &quot;dos&quot; on zdforums by ladna blair xen whoever else?&nbsp; I still am not really sure what that accomplished except to say &quot;we don&#039;t care about Zdaemon anymore and are willing to represent the IDL community as saying that.&quot;&nbsp; Thanks a lot I guess, with that sort of support, who needs friends or enemies!&nbsp; Nobody cares about skulltag, nobody cares about odamex, why can&#039;t you do that silly crap there?&nbsp; Some of us simply want to see the IDL continue to grow and flourish as the premier CTF league in the world, others simply seem to care about getting a cheap laugh or flipping some greek guy they never met the bird.<br /><br />Some of these people aren&#039;t mature enough to return to the community, even if they wanted to.&nbsp; An ideal solution would be for them to allowed public access to ONLY IDL servers but this is probably a bit of an unreasonable request at this point, given the fact that so many of our oldest members cannot act older than bones!&nbsp; I would definitely support having public and private servers, public servers would allow us to draw players in and play matches out in the open to stir up more activity, while private servers can easily be added once players are drawn in for the few matches played with banned participants.<br /><br />Honestly, I wish kilgore would join us at quakenet so he can see just what IDL is all about.&nbsp; Maybe if he sees how professionally our league is run, the dedication to the game he has helped create, he will allow himself to be more open in regards to us.&nbsp; It seems pretty reasonable that growth is not inspired by division, which is what is happening here and I think all concerned should be interested in keeping IDL growing.&nbsp; We might even be one of the largest CTF leagues in north america at the moment, are they running anything this large in ql or any other games?&nbsp; Perhaps we should be a little better at presenting ourselves, how can we draw in any outside players when half of our interactions seem to be poorly thought out arguments that end in some silly overreaction?&nbsp; Perhaps this post is an overreaction I am not sure what I think anymore.<br /><br />Bottom line is, I want to see IDL grow and hopefully become the largest, most successful CTF League in North America and even the entire world one day.&nbsp; In order for this to happen we should make the most out of all of our possibilities to draw in more players and make a bigger name for ourselves.&nbsp; Wouldn&#039;t it be great to join a different game and hear people talking about how awesome the IDL is?&nbsp; We should also adhere to our quality standards as well, because that defines the core of the IDL as we know it and what ultimately makes it such a successful league!<br /><br />also, I like all these (ladna ralph blair xen etc) guys but its hard to agree with how they act at times as I am sure they disagree with how I act at times too!(except quik he sorta dum)&nbsp; <br /><br />Also also, ITDMANIA!!!!!!!!', 'xx', 1);
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	(3631, 394, 1, 1299182086, 89, 3631, 'Re: An IDL 8v8 mappack', 'Solar_Flare', 'cdstrangle@gmail.com', '129.7.185.60', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=LordBritish link=topic=394.msg3627#msg3627 date=1299166686]<br />[img]http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae285/u3lordbritish/1298822820475.gif?t=1299166718[/img]<br /><br />[/quote]<br /><br />Anyways, 5v5 - 8v8 is what I was thinking.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4404, 473, 18, 1312168887, 19, 4404, 'Re: Week 8 (Jul 25 - Aug 1) : ZDCTF18: The Old Castle - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.183.245', 1, 0, '', '[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/VOLk7.png[/img]<br />[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ANopa.png[/img]<br /><br />Demo: http://xen.unidoom.org/doom/idl/IDLX-Week8-SUC-vs-KGB-povXen.zip', 'xx', 1);
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	(3249, 369, 14, 1295050861, 3, 3249, 'Re: Week 2 (Jan 10 - Jan 16) : ZDU30 (MAP30) - Discussion and Results', 'Joshsmith', 'tonihawker666@yahoo.com', '99.9.212.71', 1, 0, '', 'Sorry I couldn&#039;t be here, I wasn&#039;t MIA I was a POW, as I didn&#039;t have internet access yesterday. However that issue has been resolved and my team knows the situation. Good job winning your first IDL match though, Reckless(ROTY?).', 'xx', 1);
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	(5775, 552, 17, 1324663050, 213, 5775, 'Re: Montreal Server', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '98.222.82.216', 1, 0, '', 'I have serious connection problems to Montreal.&nbsp; I don&#039;t mean shot-dropping packetloss--in fact, it seems just as easy to kill people at 70 ms as it does at 30 or 45 ms--I mean what-the-fuck-lewis-carroll-style-time-regression, I&#039;m-running-forwards-and-the-world-isn&#039;t-moving-backwards lag.&nbsp; This happens during just about every game, and I often lose a flag or two because my team is a man down.&nbsp; It doesn&#039;t matter in priv, where nothing matters, but it shouldn&#039;t be forced on someone in an IDL game.<br /><br />TT, on the other hand, has been pretty crappy lately.&nbsp; Once or twice a week, when my jailbait video server hits its peak traffic levels, the server seems to shut down for everybody, and jokes are had by all.&nbsp; My understanding is that trashmins are going to free up some of the server load before the season starts.&nbsp; Not sure who runs Powerhouse...<br /><br />If players choose to play on Montreal, then they absolutely should.&nbsp; Which is why, as Dew said, consenting captains can play their games there.&nbsp; For all I care (this isn&#039;t gospel), consenting captains can play their games on Oblacek.&nbsp; <br /><br />[center][color=red]Let [/color] [color=gray]freedom [/color] [color=blue]ring[/color].[/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4459, 484, 16, 1312351951, 163, 4459, 'Re: Reinstate franchising and editing some of the IDL maps', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.110.104.242', 1, 0, '', '[quote=&quot;RustIsTerribleAtDoom&quot;]You&#039;re out of your damn mind. Maps like 10, 11, 6, and 24 would go first before 5. Don&#039;t hate on 5 just because you got spanked there by a South American and a swamp man.[/quote]<br /><br />Actually, I&#039;m glad you pointed that out. I actually meant 6, I thought 5 was the giant map with the trees in the middle, but it turns out it&#039;s 6. So in closing this short post, it was a mis-understanding and you&#039;re still a faggot Texan. Suck my dick or cock. <br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(4510, 488, 16, 1312746394, 216, 4510, 'Re: week 9 dmc vs. dmr incident', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '67.68.32.29', 1, 0, '', 'ahaha mass that&#039;s priceless', 'xx', 1);
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	(2304, 246, 1, 1282276802, 0, 2304, 'Re: TotalTrash will no longer host public servers', 'Fastidious', '', '76.217.99.81', 1, 0, '', 'http://forums.zdaemon.org/viewtopic.php?t=13438<br /><br />Obviously that is about as close as the IDL will get to an official invite but does anyone actually trust the ZD team?&nbsp; I think public ZD advertisement especially in the launcher might be near invaluable to make sure everyone knows about the IDL but at the same time I have a feeling it&#039;d end up with the IDL leaving shortly.&nbsp; We like open discussions and have grown used to freedoms.&nbsp; I like the idea of a blog and shit but all the stuff I want to post about would lead to discussions like we have on these forums and would therefore probably be &quot;accidentally deleted&quot;.&nbsp; Personally I wish the IDL community could add a community site which has news and columns as an alternative to ZD support.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2238, 250, 12, 1281765818, 130, 2238, 'Re: IDL S2010 Wildcard Playoffs (Aug 2 - Aug 8.)', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'Are you uninstalling irc? ', 'xx', 1);
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	(2243, 250, 12, 1281767404, 10, 2243, 'Re: IDL S2010 Wildcard Playoffs (Aug 2 - Aug 8.)', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@unidoom.org', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;m def not bald yet, but I&#039;m working on it guys', 'xx', 1);
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	(2239, 250, 12, 1281766046, 17, 2239, 'Re: IDL S2010 Wildcard Playoffs (Aug 2 - Aug 8.)', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '24.15.219.212', 1, 0, '', 'He sounds pretty pissed,&nbsp; he may be uninstalling the entire internet!', 'xx', 1);
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	(2242, 250, 12, 1281767028, 130, 2242, 'Re: IDL S2010 Wildcard Playoffs (Aug 2 - Aug 8.)', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'Xen you&#039;re a fucking baby. Stop taking things so seriously. White was drunk, he&#039;s a fucking gayboat. He has been that way for Ladna and Chaindude too from what I heard. That is just how he is. Also he&#039;s always just fucking around. Humor, you need to get some.<br /><br />I don&#039;t know why you think we shit on you any more than we shit on LB or me or Ralph&#039;s baldness. You&#039;re just a god damn pussy and you need to stop bleeding from your vagina and play your IDL game.<br /><br />gg', 'xx', 1);
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	(2252, 243, 12, 1281774175, 131, 2252, 'Re: IDL SUMMER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'Gyrossman', 'mistero@seznam.cz', '89.103.39.137', 1, 0, '', 'allstar voting is bullcrap!<br /><br />[b][color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />[list type=decimal]<br />[li]Ralphis[/li]<br />[li]Tai[/li]<br />[li]Hatred[/li]<br />[li]Rottking[/li]<br />[li]Josh[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[b][color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />[list type=decimal]<br />[li]mike[/li]<br />[li]Nostar[/li]<br />[li]Jenova[/li]<br />[li]Ladna[/li]<br />[li]RussianDumbass[/li]<br />[/list]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3247, 350, 14, 1295038963, 1996, 3247, 'Re: W2011 Suicide League', 'TKZ', 'CapnAnna@hotmail.com', '206.210.225.131', 1, 1295039280, 'TKZ', 'Is there anyways I could get into this now before the week 2 results (or before week 3 starts)? It&#039;s not like it&#039;s anything too serious. You can even put BSK as my first prediction.<br /><br />I&#039;m bored is all.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2402, 250, 12, 1283138399, 73, 2402, 'Re: Dumb Flames S2010', 'Quiksilver', 'joshbryantmusic@gmail.com', '68.57.224.163', 1, 0, '', '[url=http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/Vcoalition/1283138038844.gif]HOW TO TROLL[/url]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3389, 348, 14, 1297494497, 10, 3389, 'Re: W2011 Free Agents - Trade History - Waiver Wire', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', '[b]Free Agency[/b]<br />Withdrawal by Tenchu &amp; Propane (Week 5)', 'xx', 1);
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	(3632, 398, 14, 1299182442, 158, 3632, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '173.206.46.32', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=nostar link=topic=398.msg3623#msg3623 date=1299143942]<br />tony you are an idiot<br />also that post is hilarious mass<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Someone is mad hahahaha', 'xx', 1);
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	(6085, 591, 20, 1327522347, 213, 6085, 'Re: since we''re frivolously making new topics', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '97.92.40.97', 1, 0, '', 'LordBritish, I am also surprised at the vast number of players who have absolutely no idea what the IDL&#039;s rules are, and frankly embarrassed at the number of [i]administrators[/i] who have never taken the five minutes that it takes to read the league&#039;s rules.&nbsp; (And by the face-saving name-calling that has gone on in this thread, it looks like they are embarrassed about it too.)&nbsp; I first read them when I signed up to be a [i]player[/i], much less a captain or administrator.<br /><br />If the demo rule is stupid (a claim for which I have yet to see an argument), I&#039;m surprised that nobody has brought it up before. It has been there for at least a couple of years unchanged.<br /><br />I am going to continue enforcing the league&#039;s actual rules (and not misconceptions or traditions) until they change, and it looks like the commissioner has the same intention.<br /><br />Please, everyone.&nbsp; [color=red]READ THE LEAGUE RULES.&nbsp; IF YOU DO NOT LIKE ONE OF THEM, LET US KNOW AND WE WILL DISCUSS CHANGING IT.[/color]', 'xx', 1);
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	(6640, 639, 21, 1333736235, 267, 6640, 'Re: IDL-R Invite List/Signup Thread', 'RecKle$$_', 'Aesthesic@hotmail.com', '189.217.188.203', 1, 0, '', 'Signing up Zoltar<br /><br />Name: [IW]Zoltar aka Toccata<br />Country: USA<br />Email contact: <br />Instant Message Contact: quakenet irc #PreciseShot<br />Regular Availability: thursdays,fridays and weekends afternoons<br /><br />for caps who dont know him he&#039;s a p decent defense&nbsp; ;)<br />	<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(7087, 670, 23, 1340409521, 2271, 7087, 'Re: Gray Division Results &amp; Demos', 'Dr. Sean', 'grandpachuck187@gmail.com', '69.62.135.164', 1, 0, '', 'Dr. Sean Vs. Ralphis<br />maps eliminated: dwango5, chill3<br /><br />Dr. Sean&#039;s pick: moo2d<br />50-26, Ralphis = winner<br />http://grandpachuck.org/files/odamex/mac2012/Odamex_DUEL_20120622_165422.bmp<br />demo: http://grandpachuck.org/files/odamex/mac2012/dr_sean_vs_ralphis_moo2d.zip<br /><br />Ralphis&#039;s pick: boo<br />50-19, Ralphis = winner<br />screen: http://grandpachuck.org/files/odamex/mac2012/Odamex_DUEL_20120622_165439.bmp<br />demo: http://grandpachuck.org/files/odamex/mac2012/dr_sean_vs_ralphis_boo.zip<br /><br />GGS', 'xx', 1);
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	(3809, 410, 14, 1300337119, 89, 3813, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Solar_Flare', 'cdstrangle@gmail.com', '98.199.179.106', 1, 1300338891, 'nostar', 'Jenova can I sick your dick?<br /><br />[quote author=nostar link=topic=410.msg3804#msg3804 date=1300334901]<br />Dude strangle you can&#039;t make coherent sentences.[/quote]<br /><br />That&#039;s all you actually have, and it&#039;s based on a post that I made with almost no sleep tied into it. So yeah if you&#039;re gonna try to insult me, use something that is legit and not a one-time deal. <br /><br />Insert coin to try again.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3934, 420, 1, 1302858908, 75, 3934, 'Re: Seeking New Commissioner ', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '178.209.142.37', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=RustInPeace link=topic=420.msg3931#msg3931 date=1302801588]<br />Settle this over a clanwar. NS vs R coming soon to CHTV.<br />[/quote]<br />thing is.. [i]clanwars[/i] traditionally involve duels. R would have to play 1on1s against chew, hatred and kist with non-duellers like jenny. [b]OUCH.[/b]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4690, 496, 18, 1315284848, 216, 4690, 'Re: Season 10 / Summer 2011 Playoffs - MASTERBOWL X - Discussion and Results ', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '65.92.127.51', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=LordBritish link=topic=496.msg4683#msg4683 date=1315239234]<br />Yeah that was a doozy.&nbsp; Not sure about this, but probably the first MB where the team that won actually got outflagged over the course of the game.&nbsp; Stall was so sick, and as a whole BBC was really good.&nbsp; I&#039;m pretty sure this won&#039;t be the only time you see the Masterbowl, Prime.&nbsp; Keep up the good work!<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Thanks LB, you guys played phenomenally as well. Best of luck to you next season. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4703, 499, 1, 1315379962, 75, 4703, 'Re: North America Vs Europe', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '178.209.142.37', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Hatred link=topic=499.msg4701#msg4701 date=1315368515]<br />USA would probably win but guys like Gyross and turska could definitely make some noise. Are there any Euros known for defense? It seems like thats what Europe has lacked the most over the last few years - a dominant defender. North America is full of &#039;em. :p<br />[/quote]<br />dude, what. euros don&#039;t play defence in idl for rather obvious reasons. other than that you&#039;re wonderfully oblivious. turska and gyross ARE d more often than not. usa would probably win, because eu is inactive and rusted, plus i kind of hate the eu idea. a shame us was busy being scared when cz had like two full teams ready.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2254, 243, 12, 1281800925, 35, 2254, 'Re: IDL SUMMER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.240.85.23', 1, 0, '', '[b][color=blue]INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />[list type=decimal]<br />[li]Hatred[/li]<br />[li]Xenaero[/li]<br />[li]Joshsmith[/li]<br />[li]Goatface[/li]<br />[li]Ralphis[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[b][color=red]WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />[list type=decimal]<br />[li]LB[/li]<br />[li]Stallion[/li]<br />[li]mikefails[/li]<br />[li]Rus[/li]<br />[li]Sabertooth[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[b][color=pink]UNIVERSE DOOM CONFERENCE[/color][/b]<br />[list type=decimal]<br />[li]Kandy_kid[/li]<br />[li]cha0tix[/li]<br />[li]Shakal[/li]<br />[li]roak[/li]<br />[li]Whiteboy[/li]<br />[/list]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2255, 243, 12, 1281805698, 2, 2255, 'Re: IDL SUMMER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.52.171', 1, 0, '', 'i love how you chose pink as the color for the universe team', 'xx', 1);
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	(2256, 250, 12, 1281812528, 38, 2256, 'Re: IDL S2010 Conference Championship Games (Aug 9 - Aug 15.)', 'Sabertooth', 'ssj4chazou@hotmail.com', '66.211.46.100', 1, 0, '', 'To be honest looking at EBL what DD is missing is someone that can absorb all of Whitey&#039;s bullshit. Don&#039;t get me wrong Hatred is a nice guy that doesn&#039;t take shit from anyone and hes mellow when you need him. But with whitey you have to push some of it back in his face. I think that is how the other teams with him on it were able to keep a level head. <br /><br />White you&#039;re my bud but sometimes you do piss people off. Hell that&#039;s why I like ya. We&#039;ve all seen DD steaming mad and the best bet is to just give it some space and he&#039;ll be back better than ever. <br /><br />Plus, DD can&#039;t leave without giving me a better goodbye than that.&nbsp; <br /><br />P.S. Tai sucks more anyway.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2257, 243, 12, 1281812825, 38, 2257, 'Re: IDL SUMMER 2010 ALL-STAR SELECTION', 'Sabertooth', 'ssj4chazou@hotmail.com', '66.211.46.100', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Gyrossman link=topic=243.msg2252#msg2252 date=1281774175]<br />allstar voting is bullcrap!<br />[/quote]<br /><br />That is why I don&#039;t vote.<br /><br />Also I&#039;m always hate voted against. Bitches are just afraid I&#039;ll beat&#039;em to badly&nbsp; ;)', 'xx', 1);
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	(8280, 815, 17, 1360370935, 1328, 8280, 'LIMITATION??', 'Mobius', 'hustler_0ne@hotmail.com', '174.20.105.188', 1, 0, '', 'Not to derail, but has Wbuild become open source and taken a look at or is that what you&#039;re been told?', 'xx', 1);
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	(2259, 250, 12, 1281815476, 158, 2259, 'Re: IDL S2010 Conference Championship Games (Aug 9 - Aug 15.)', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '173.206.23.50', 1, 0, '', 'On a more serious note, I predict 10-0 for BSK against BBC.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3810, 410, 14, 1300337461, 30, 3810, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Beast', 'kjolly@uwm.edu', '24.209.160.160', 1, 0, '', 'bones your gay for would have locking this thread on zd forums, fast is probably right, and since zdstack isn&#039;t needed I can adjust flags and what not and get some servers up ASAP<br /><br />only reason I ever kicked or banned anyone from one of my servers was for disrupting game play, by disrupting game play I mean interfering in a clan battle or something ', 'xx', 1);
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	(3935, 420, 1, 1302877833, 2, 3935, 'Re: Seeking New Commissioner ', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.41.229', 1, 0, '', 'ns has a history of losing tdm due to overzealous potent bfg and a shortage of gamma radiation shielding suits in the ns locker...', 'xx', 1);
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	(3945, 400, 1, 1303451059, 214, 3945, 'Re: For my fans...', 'RustInPeace', 'sindeception@yahoo.com', '70.241.17.198', 1, 0, '', 'Well guys I was able to get in contact with Fast thanks to help from mikehail (even though he was quite reluctant). Apparently he is in the process of moving into a home with his common law wife. He won&#039;t be able to come online for about another month until after he gets settled in. He appreciates the fact that us &#039;fans&#039; were concerned about him after he seemingly disappeared. Fast is fine and his main hobby these days is family life. He sent a pic for me to share:<br /><br />[img]http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-3PYKMNuF48/0.jpg[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3390, 385, 1, 1297523843, 0, 3390, 'Introduction', 'artificial eyelashes', '', '119.154.112.203', 1, 0, '', '<br />Well come and introduce your self ', 'xx', 1);
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	(6086, 593, 20, 1327529105, 16, 6086, 'Re: Cool team stats (1/3rd of the season)', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '98.216.91.67', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;m all for some discipline for Dr. Noob. He has a history of doing this with SICL, and is probably one of the reasons it now doesn&#039;t exist. <br /><br />That&#039;s it&#039;s own topic, though.', 'xx', 1);
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	(5776, 552, 17, 1324671357, 214, 5776, 'Re: Montreal Server', 'RustInPeace', 'sindeception@yahoo.com', '69.154.185.242', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;ll chime in real quickly.<br /><br />I&#039;ve never really had a problem with TT when I started playing again summer &#039;10. I never had any major packetloss or unplayable lag unless someone was being a dick and streaming a video or something. However in the past week and a half TT has been noticeably bad. I was getting weird ping spikes and lag. At one point I was gonna score a flag during practice on Monday when the server literally jerked me back up the ledge and I got fragged. Gilga and Mass both stated they were running over ssgs and health packs and not picking them up. For a player than never had any problems, TT is indeed giving me a headache currently.<br /><br />However Montreal is fucking garbage. I will get a ping range between 70 and 150 and often times it will hang on the high end of the spectrum. <br /><br />Perhaps we should consider trying out ChaosCore. It&#039;s in Milwaukee and just a bit more north than Chicago. Perhaps we could get lucky and have the majority of players get better routing or something to CC. Its worth a shot I think.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3248, 361, 14, 1295046294, 0, 3248, 'Re: Who will be rookie of the year (season)?', 'Fastidious', '', '76.224.113.57', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;ve been impressed with Rust more now that I saw him play his first match.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6641, 639, 21, 1333744041, 8, 6641, 'Re: IDL-R Invite List/Signup Thread', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@intldoomleague.org', '108.207.0.195', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Fluffles link=topic=639.msg6638#msg6638 date=1333720951]<br />Name: Fluffles<br />Country: GB<br />IRC #IDL<br />Regular Availability: Late afternoon for american time, friday nights possibly evenings. Not available much on weekends.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Unfortunately you are not eligible because you weren&#039;t drafted this past season and you were not a free agent, and you are not new to the IDL. You can still sign up for the summer season though.<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(4066, 435, 18, 1306007480, 10, 4066, 'Re: OFFICIAL SUMMER 2011 DRAFT: LIVE SUNDAY, MAY 22 @ 9 PM EST', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '98.225.144.111', 1, 0, '', 'Was there even one captain in the draft that actually wanted the order changed?', 'xx', 1);
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	(6331, 620, 20, 1330431147, 0, 6331, 'Re: WEEK 9 (FEB 27 - MAR 4) : ZDU34 (MAP32) - Discussion and Results', 'capodecima', '', '194.228.150.205', 1, 0, '', '[b]Contraband (3-4-1) vs Mass Destruction (3-5-0)[/b]<br />2-1 CTB<br /><br /><br />[b]Brokeback Cowboys (5-3-0) vs Ricochet Rockets (5-2-1)[/b]<br />2-1 RR<br /><br /><br />[b]Killing Browns (3-5-0) vs Super Shotgun Spurs (7-0-1)[/b]<br />2-0 SGS <br /><br />[b]Super Chargers (4-2-2) vs Philanthropic Blowhards (0-8-0)[/b]<br />2-0 SUC<br /><br />[b]The Cult of Bestism (2-5-1) vs Plasmadicks United (2-6-0)[/b]<br />2-1 PDU<br /><br />[b]Fnordy Niners (4-4-0) vs We&#039;re All Doomed (7-1-0)[/b]<br />2-1 WAD<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(8842, 870, 17, 1364915784, 147, 8842, 'Re: ThatsJustPrime is New Board Member', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '184.56.51.38', 1, 0, '', 'i approve this message', 'xx', 1);
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	(8455, 74, 17, 1361292745, 2303, 8455, 'Re: IDL Awards [IDEA!]', 'Watermelon', 'watermelonst@hotmail.com', '99.239.182.148', 1, 0, '', 'Xen:<br />Would you like to see those in action?', 'xx', 1);
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	(8873, 499, 1, 1365781474, 147, 8873, 'Re: North America Vs Europe', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '184.56.51.38', 1, 0, '', 'i&#039;d rather look at mass&#039;s collection of phallic foods', 'xx', 1);
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	(2260, 250, 12, 1281815585, 16, 2260, 'Re: IDL S2010 Conference Championship Games (Aug 9 - Aug 15.)', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '99.73.70.222', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Sabertooth link=topic=250.msg2256#msg2256 date=1281812528]<br />To be honest looking at EBL what DD is missing is someone that can absorb all of Whitey&#039;s bullshit. Don&#039;t get me wrong Hatred is a nice guy that doesn&#039;t take shit from anyone and hes mellow when you need him. But with whitey you have to push some of it back in his face. I think that is how the other teams with him on it were able to keep a level head. <br /><br />White you&#039;re my bud but sometimes you do piss people off. Hell that&#039;s why I like ya. We&#039;ve all seen DD steaming mad and the best bet is to just give it some space and he&#039;ll be back better than ever. <br /><br />Plus, DD can&#039;t leave without giving me a better goodbye than that.&nbsp; <br /><br />P.S. Tai sucks more anyway.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Who&#039;s balls are still intact then, mine or Xen? Oh that&#039;s right, not Xen&#039;s!<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(2261, 250, 12, 1281817349, 19, 2261, 'Re: IDL S2010 Wildcard Playoffs (Aug 2 - Aug 8.)', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.3.36', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=nostar link=topic=250.msg2238#msg2238 date=1281765818]<br />Are you uninstalling irc?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />No, I&#039;m still quite reachable on Quakenet, just not in IDL and related channels.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2258, 250, 12, 1281814502, 35, 2262, 'Re: IDL S2010 Conference Championship Games (Aug 9 - Aug 15.)', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.240.85.23', 1, 1281852655, 'mikefails', '[b]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA<br />HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA[/b]...I&#039;ll remember not to hang around DD when i&#039;ve drank a little.<br /><br />edited: screw ur long crap making me scroll offpage', 'xx', 1);
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	(2263, 250, 12, 1281859298, 19, 2263, 'Re: IDL S2010 Conference Championship Games (Aug 9 - Aug 15.)', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.3.36', 1, 0, '', 'Tai was sort of right in his prediction earlier. Anyway I had a meltdown and will probably be around to watch my team + cheer them on since I really am not good at that map anyway due to lack of any serious practice, hopefully the other three all will appear and play. I wanted to get ahold of dewww but I did everything except contact the magical gyross who I think has every euro doomer&#039;s GPS location wired to some monitor in his dank czech storm cellar, so in effect it&#039;s basically the same result even if I didn&#039;t flip out. It&#039;s good Hatred is the cap now and he can have it because I really have grown disinterested and disillusioned with capping with all the run-ins I&#039;ve had with my players (well-documented in my tirades with them via various communication methods and programs!) over the past few seasons, all of which pretty much culminated in the final straw that broke the camel&#039;s back last night. If anything it&#039;s another signal I need to not play in the IDL arena for awhile and clear my head.<br /><br />I deserve the reactions for my craziness for the most part as my post was made in ill judgement while I was still pissed off + sleep deprived but I want to touch on somethin&#039; real quick that irks me (And will fuel the IDL drama machine)<br /><br />[quote author=nostar link=topic=250.msg2242#msg2242 date=1281767028]<br />I don&#039;t know why you think we shit on you any more than Ralph/LB<br />[/quote]<br /><br />We? Who&#039;s we, buddy? It&#039;s all you. This statement is such crap and you know it; it really makes you show your ass. For one there&#039;s a very large difference between me and Ralph/LB, and that&#039;s you respect them enough to not try to make them the bottom feeder of the IDL. Although really you did succeed in making my name shit so I don&#039;t know if I should congratulate you on your efforts or not. I&#039;ve pretty much told you nicely to stop your crap a bunch of times and in essence you kept wearing me down till I snap just so you can say I&#039;m a whining baby and whatever other garbage that flies out of your filthy little weasel mouth. I honestly think you should see a psychiatrist about your superiority complex if this is the kick you need to make yourself feel better. Fuck you. It&#039;ll be great when karma just comes back &#039;round and bites you in the ass.<br /><br />[b]gg[/b]', 'xx', 1);
