[quote author=Ralphis link=topic=522.msg5086#msg5086 date=1319052724]<br />What about limiting the trade period to weeks 2-5 and keeping the 3 trade cap?[/quote] <br /><br />I like it and I think it&#039;d be worth trying.&nbsp; I honestly think we need to do something.&nbsp; Personally I might even go a little further and say no trades till week 3.&nbsp; You can&#039;t really tell if a team is good or bad in one match for most teams.<br /><br />[quote author=Ralphis link=topic=522.msg5086#msg5086 date=1319052724]A very real counterpoint however is that you might have players purposely under-perform in week 1 to force a captain&#039;s hand at trading them.[/quote] <br /><br />Only person who would do this is JKist!&nbsp; I&#039;ve known other players who don&#039;t want to play for a certain captain and express negative attitudes but I don&#039;t know anyone else who would drastically under perform on purpose.<br /><br />[quote author=Ralphis link=topic=522.msg5086#msg5086 date=1319052724]Also, can anyone explain the new rule that limits dropped players from being picked up within 48 hours of their release? How is this different from current waiver wire rules, how does it affect current waiver wire rules, and what is its purpose?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I think the trade rules are burgeoning out of control myself.&nbsp; I read them all and I&#039;m not sure I understand them.&nbsp; I imagine some smart captains will find potential loopholes to wiggle through regardless.&nbsp; I&#039;m more a fan of KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid.<br /><br />[quote author=Hatred link=topic=522.msg5092#msg5092 date=1319081963]we tend to remember the screw-jobs first. Abolishing the trade system is not going to help parity. Because if people are trading when they deliberately know it will be an extremely bad trade, then parity probably never existed. This is not a result of trading making a mark on the balance of IDL, it&#039;s simply a matter of poor captains/good captains, which I already have addressed. [/quote]<br /><br />OK, I understand you much more after you said that.&nbsp; I do think trading hurts parity however more than helps it.&nbsp; Let&#039;s use the Goatface Hatred trade as an example - your team was really weak (bad parity) and you went to a so-so team if I remember correctly, they then turned into a power house team (bad parity).&nbsp; So basically you hurt a bad team (not that it matters for them really) then boosted a so-so team into MasterBowl contention.&nbsp; I would concede the parity of those teams before wasn&#039;t great but the result ended up lopsiding both teams further towards each extreme.&nbsp; That is why trading seems bad to me.&nbsp; <br /><br />The draft does have some basic parity and fairness built into it.&nbsp; Trading really does not.&nbsp; Maybe players should have to agree to any trade, not just captains dictating for them.&nbsp; In the real world teams have to worry about keeping their players somewhat happy and paying for them.&nbsp; In the IDL captains can decide a players fate without a care given to them.<br /><br />[quote author=Hatred link=topic=522.msg5092#msg5092 date=1319081963]it&#039;s a matter of getting what you need. If Jenova has LB and I have Stallion, a swap for LB/Stall in our situations make perfect sense.[/quote]<br /><br />I think the response to that is to just draft better, or get someone worse but someone who plays positions you need.&nbsp; Drafting skill over positions to conduct a trade is quite risky but can have big pay offs.<br /><br />This next part is way off topic of this thread (as a few posts in already in this thread have been).<br /><br />[quote author=Ralphis link=topic=522.msg5087#msg5087 date=1319052959]<br />Also, I think that personal attacks are getting us nowhere!<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I&#039;ll just say this, it&#039;s sad when we have small community and some of people are haters.&nbsp; Just get over it and let people co-exist.&nbsp; That is one thing which could bring the league down.&nbsp; I know I sometimes put myself out there but I only toss out ideas because they need discussion.&nbsp; Maybe eliminating trading is too extreme but it&#039;s not like it&#039;s been tried before.&nbsp; IDL needs to keep changing and moving forward.<br /><br />Not sure why Xen and LB are hating on me lately.&nbsp; Xen aren&#039;t you a board member, you&#039;ve spent more time and posts on personally attacking me in this thread than discussing a real IDL issue.&nbsp; Due process?&nbsp; Pedestal?&nbsp; WTF are you on?&nbsp; Get over yourself.&nbsp; LB just seems to bad mouth me mainly when I&#039;m not around (you know I watch demos, right?).&nbsp; Rust used to be a Fast hater but I think he realized it was stupid.&nbsp; Dew does it too but he hates everything and everyone!<br /><br />I do not understand the rage and hostility.&nbsp; Would you guys honestly be happier if I quit IDL, didn&#039;t play and didn&#039;t post or do anything for the league.&nbsp; I doubt that&#039;ll ever happen but I never understand the mob mentality of players to hate on one another for extended periods of time.&nbsp; Have I have personally done some big wrong to Xen or LB?&nbsp; I don&#039;t think so.&nbsp; If I have I&#039;m sorry.&nbsp; Let&#039;s move beyond petty issues and focus on things which matter.