Huh? You even quoted the rule, but you&#039;re saying because demo uploading wasn&#039;t fully functional on the website in week 2 that gave you a pass? The problem is you didn&#039;t even record the demo in the first place, so effectively you had no demo to upload, even though that&#039;s irrelevant, to be honest. Why is that? Because of the rule you just stated.<br /><br />So here&#039;s the timeline as I understand it, taking that stature into effect:<br /><br />Thursday, jan 12 - Week 2 game was played<br />Wednesday, jan 18 - demo cutoff date mentioned by rules #1<br />Saturday, jan 21 - Week 3 game was played, demo cutoff date mentioned by rules #2<br /><br />Now, going by the rules...<br /><br />[quote]Each player that plays in a round, no matter the length of time, is required to submit a demo either by Wednesday of the following week, or before their team&#039;s next game, whichever comes first.[/quote]<br /><br />Wednesday, Jan 18th, comes before Saturday, Jan 21st. Therefore the demo should have been submitted by Wednesday, Jan 18th. This is not a hard concept to grasp.<br /><br />It&#039;s true there were statistical issues that prevented the demo system from functioning properly. They were resolved by Ladna on [b]Saturday, Jan 14th[/b]. Please observe this topic as evidence: http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?topic=584.0<br /><br />In addition, the demo topic ( http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?topic=579.0 ) that Ladna requested everyone put missing demos in, was closed on the 16th BY MassVC himself!<br /><br />So this might confuse you, what&#039;s the timeline look like now?<br /><br />[code]Thursday, Jan 12 - Week 2 game was played<br />Saturday, Jan 14 - Demo upload resolved, all games before that point updated stats wise, and demos could be uploaded for said games by all players<br />Wednesday, Jan 18 - Demo cutoff date mentioned by rules<br />Saturday, Jan 21 - Week 3 game was played[/code]<br /><br />Clearly, had you the demo, something could have been done and the rules even recognize your lack of responsibility and would have penalized you for your Week 3 game. I&#039;m not sure what the precedent is in this kind of situation in overturning a game where you&#039;ve already lost. I suppose that something would have to be done, though, to uphold integrity. Perhaps overturn the game the demo was not submitted?<br /><br />So regardless of the way you wish to phrase it, Mass, you are absolutely in the wrong, as far as the rules are concerned. It would be improper to act otherwise at this point. I would like to hear more on why you think &quot;that is the only reasonable decision to make&quot;. You should be more accountable for your own actions instead of making a topic of defiance, essentially stating the equivalent of the rules don&#039;t apply to you.<br /><br />I did not come here expressly to state you are wrong, however. What this topic [b]should[/b] be about is addressing future demo violations with the strictest hand if we are to make this a serious reinforcement of the league&#039;s stance on fair play and enforcing the rules in general. I know that Armour and Dr_Noob have not submitted their demos still for Week 1. I do not know the full extent of what has not been submitted or what has been enforced. Perhaps someone can help consolidate this? Hatred might have a list already going, from what I hear.<br /><br />It&#039;s certainly possible to disregard in full the demo problems sustained in weeks 1 and 2 due to the site being kind of broken. Should it be done, is a better question.