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	(6675, 650, 18, 1334623536, 157, 6675, 'Re: IDL-R Important Information', 'Legion_', 'skulltaglegion@hotmail.com', '71.115.99.65', 1, 0, '', 'idk about reck but I know -I- would LOVE some game stats', 'xx', 1);
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	(8559, 848, 25, 1361842369, 2303, 8559, 'Re: Season 13 / Winter 2013 Playoffs - Wildcard Round - Discussion and Results', 'Watermelon', 'watermelonst@hotmail.com', '99.239.182.148', 1, 0, '', 'You have got to be fucking kidding me.<br />God damnit Tai couldn&#039;t you have just picked 31/20/01?<br /><br />Someone please let him have 01.<br /><br />[b]Fuck. This. Map.[/b]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4364, 472, 17, 1311616804, 1328, 4364, 'Re: IDL Teams', 'Mobius', 'hustler_0ne@hotmail.com', '69.126.162.4', 1, 0, '', 'The four conferences with 2 teams on each looks lonely and sad. I think 8 teams should be in two conferences.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2939, 335, 14, 1290883846, 213, 2939, 'Re: IDL Twelve-Team Playoff Format Poll', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '75.186.106.4', 1, 0, '', 'I see lb&#039;s point, but as ralphis&#039;s cybersimulations show, the first seed will probably beat the fourth seed 85% of the time and the rest of the playoffs proceed just the same anyhow.<br /><br />I&#039;d rather see four games than two that week, and I don&#039;t think bye weeks are necessary to help DooMers &quot;rest up.&quot;', 'xx', 1);
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	(2938, 313, 14, 1290882036, 64, 2943, 'Re: IDL Winter 2011 Signups Open', 'BloodStrike', 'fat1802002@yahoo.com', '75.73.162.209', 1, 1290913964, 'BloodStrike', 'Name: BloodStrike<br />Country: USA<br />Email contact: casianoortega@live.com<br />Instant Message Contact: IRC<br />Regular Availability: Every day', 'xx', 1);
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	(3198, 350, 14, 1294682845, 75, 3198, 'Re: W2011 Suicide League', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.180.128', 1, 0, '', 'gimme suc', 'xx', 1);
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	(2963, 337, 14, 1291398214, 19, 2963, 'Re: For those interested in the team logos', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.1.173', 1, 0, '', 'Oh I also forgot to upload [url=http://xen.unidoom.org/doom/idl/IDL-Final.png]the IDL logo, silly me![/url]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3746, 410, 14, 1300199646, 163, 3746, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.39.27.107', 1, 0, '', '[quote=&quot;nostar&quot;]Hatred you make it seem like this is some professional league. No one gets paid to play this. No one is compelled to spend their time writing the most bullet proof rules page. I dont see why anyone would expect that.[/quote]<br /><br />In terms of Doom competition, this is by far the most organized, professionally ran league out there. And of course nobody gets paid and while I understand there&#039;s no inclination to write the next DooM Bible on IDL rules, there are a few things on the page that could be a bit more detailed. As I mentioned, the rewarding of a forfeit victory isn&#039;t thoroughly explained, thus people who aren&#039;t on the ball to get their availabilities in and have matches scheduled as soon as possible, they don&#039;t have anything telling them they&#039;ll suffer real consequences for it. I know most of this should be common sense, I agree with that completely. However, in my experience, when you entrust people to think with common sense and direct themselves, they typically do very stupid shit. That&#039;s why some instruction on the matter to get their availabilities in with some flexibility is key and if there&#039;s rules clearly stating this and how a procedure of disqualification would be judged, perhaps something like this would have never happened. That being said, I don&#039;t blame the rules for KGB&#039;s irresponsibility, I blame them. But at least with more explanation, people wouldn&#039;t rage so much when a team gets DQ&#039;d. More or less, I just see it as a possible loophole a team may try to exploit and that&#039;s really my only concern with it, nothing more.&nbsp; &nbsp;  <br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(3586, 394, 1, 1298870788, 163, 3586, 'Re: An IDL 8v8 mappack', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.34.210.163', 1, 0, '', 'So, wait, I&#039;m confused. Your topic says an 8v8 map-pack but your actual post only discusses a 5v5 map-pack. Please clarify!', 'xx', 1);
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	(3694, 402, 14, 1299605702, 49, 3695, 'Re: A general response to server lag', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '216.164.140.107', 1, 1299608329, 'Killingblair', 'He&#039;s trying to be the world&#039;s blackest accountant.<br /><br />e: now time for a useful post -- an experiment!<br /><br />I close IDE now before I play a game because the goddamn new OSX-style pinwheel when you refresh a server takes up so much goddamn memory and CPU power on a poor ass computer like mine that I get FPS lag in ZDaemon when I leave it open and it decides to auto-update. Even if you disable it it still is a resource hog. Shoddy Russian programming!!! But is this the only source of my woes, or does it have to do with the occasional blank shot? I ran a [tt]tracert[/tt] when IDE was open, not updating, and got this result:<br />[code=&quot;Command Line&quot;]&nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp;  6 ms&nbsp; &nbsp;  5 ms&nbsp; &nbsp;  5 ms&nbsp; bdl1.rdl-ubr1.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.net [10.23.144.1]<br />&nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; 12 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 18 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 12 ms&nbsp; vl4.aggr1.phdl.pa.rcn.net [208.59.252.1]<br />&nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; 15 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 11 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 15 ms&nbsp; tge2-1.core3.phdl.pa.rcn.net [207.172.15.55]<br />&nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 16 ms&nbsp;  227 ms&nbsp;  219 ms&nbsp; tge2-4.core1.nyw.ny.rcn.net [207.172.19.222]<br />&nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 16 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 17 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 14 ms&nbsp; port-chan1.border1.nyw.ny.rcn.net [207.172.15.76]<br />&nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 14 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 15 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 18 ms&nbsp; paix-nyc.xe-4-3-0.cr1.nyc3.us.nlayer.net [198.32.118.77]<br />&nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 19 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 14 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 14 ms&nbsp; ae1-70g.cr1.nyc3.us.nlayer.net [69.31.95.153]<br />&nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 16 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 15 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 14 ms&nbsp; ae2-110g.cr1.ewr1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.95.145]<br />&nbsp; 9&nbsp; &nbsp; 41 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 89 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 40 ms&nbsp; xe-5-0-0.cr1.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.74]<br /> 10&nbsp; &nbsp; 39 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 38 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 42 ms&nbsp; ae0-40g.cr2.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.111.154]<br /> 11&nbsp; &nbsp; 37 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 34 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 33 ms&nbsp; po6.ar2.ord1.us.scnet.net [69.31.111.6]<br /> 12&nbsp; &nbsp; 44 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 41 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 39 ms&nbsp; 62.po2.ar2.ord6.us.scnet.net [75.102.3.230]<br /> 13&nbsp; &nbsp; 48 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 41 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 43 ms&nbsp; as36352.po4.ar2.ord6.us.scnet.net [204.93.192.190]<br /> 14&nbsp; &nbsp; 56 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 41 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 42 ms&nbsp; ge146.aggr.chi.colocrossing.com [75.102.34.250]<br /> 15&nbsp; &nbsp; 35 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 38 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 36 ms&nbsp; host.colocrossing.com [66.225.231.106][/code]Holy shitfuck, look at hop 4! 227 and 219 ping? Surely this is a problem for the ISP, IDE had nothing to do with this, right?<br /><br />Here&#039;s a [tt]tracert[/tt] with Chrome running, 4 tabs. (Facebook, IDL Forums, Slashdot, and Tom&#039;s Hardware) These sites have finished loading and there is no ad-blocking software in use.<br />[code=&quot;Command Line&quot;]&nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp;  9 ms&nbsp; &nbsp;  9 ms&nbsp; &nbsp;  7 ms&nbsp; bdl1.rdl-ubr1.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.net [10.23.144.1]<br />&nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; 13 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 22 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 13 ms&nbsp; vl4.aggr1.phdl.pa.rcn.net [208.59.252.1]<br />&nbsp; 3&nbsp;  150 ms&nbsp;  202 ms&nbsp;  202 ms&nbsp; tge2-1.core3.phdl.pa.rcn.net [207.172.15.55]<br />&nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 29 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 15 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 26 ms&nbsp; tge2-4.core1.nyw.ny.rcn.net [207.172.19.222]<br />&nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 15 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 17 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 23 ms&nbsp; port-chan1.border1.nyw.ny.rcn.net [207.172.15.76]<br />&nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 16 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 16 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 17 ms&nbsp; paix-nyc.xe-4-3-0.cr1.nyc3.us.nlayer.net [198.32.118.77]<br />&nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 19 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 29 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 26 ms&nbsp; ae1-70g.cr1.nyc3.us.nlayer.net [69.31.95.153]<br />&nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 18 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 26 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 19 ms&nbsp; ae2-110g.cr1.ewr1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.95.145]<br />&nbsp; 9&nbsp; &nbsp; 40 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 41 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 40 ms&nbsp; xe-5-0-0.cr1.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.74]<br /> 10&nbsp; &nbsp; 41 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 41 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 59 ms&nbsp; ae0-40g.cr2.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.111.154]<br /> 11&nbsp; &nbsp; 36 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 36 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 37 ms&nbsp; po6.ar2.ord1.us.scnet.net [69.31.111.6]<br /> 12&nbsp; &nbsp; 45 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 42 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 41 ms&nbsp; 62.po2.ar2.ord6.us.scnet.net [75.102.3.230]<br /> 13&nbsp; &nbsp; 41 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 57 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 41 ms&nbsp; as36352.po4.ar2.ord6.us.scnet.net [204.93.192.190]<br /> 14&nbsp; &nbsp; 43 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 54 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 43 ms&nbsp; ge146.aggr.chi.colocrossing.com [75.102.34.250]<br /> 15&nbsp; &nbsp; 38 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 35 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 35 ms&nbsp; host.colocrossing.com [66.225.231.106][/code]Hmm, now hop 3 seems to be giving us trouble. Could Nostar be right for once? Close all programs to have a rich full TT experience? Here&#039;s a [tt]tracert[/tt] with absolutely no programs that would otherwise utilize the net running, not even X-Chat.<br />[code=&quot;Command Line&quot;]&nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; 11 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 11 ms&nbsp; &nbsp;  9 ms&nbsp; bdl1.rdl-ubr1.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.net [10.23.144.1]<br />&nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; 13 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 19 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 13 ms&nbsp; vl4.aggr1.phdl.pa.rcn.net [208.59.252.1]<br />&nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; 25 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 17 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 13 ms&nbsp; tge2-1.core3.phdl.pa.rcn.net [207.172.15.55]<br />&nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 17 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 14 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 19 ms&nbsp; tge2-4.core1.nyw.ny.rcn.net [207.172.19.222]<br />&nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 15 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 16 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 17 ms&nbsp; port-chan1.border1.nyw.ny.rcn.net [207.172.15.76]<br />&nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 17 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 23 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 17 ms&nbsp; paix-nyc.xe-4-3-0.cr1.nyc3.us.nlayer.net [198.32.118.77]<br />&nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; 18 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 16 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 24 ms&nbsp; ae1-70g.cr1.nyc3.us.nlayer.net [69.31.95.153]<br />&nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 23 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 18 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 41 ms&nbsp; ae2-110g.cr1.ewr1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.95.145]<br />&nbsp; 9&nbsp; &nbsp; 42 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 41 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 53 ms&nbsp; xe-5-0-0.cr1.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.74]<br /> 10&nbsp; &nbsp; 41 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 47 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 40 ms&nbsp; ae0-40g.cr2.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.111.154]<br /> 11&nbsp; &nbsp; 35 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 35 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 35 ms&nbsp; po6.ar2.ord1.us.scnet.net [69.31.111.6]<br /> 12&nbsp; &nbsp; 51 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 41 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 54 ms&nbsp; 62.po2.ar2.ord6.us.scnet.net [75.102.3.230]<br /> 13&nbsp; &nbsp; 42 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 44 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 42 ms&nbsp; as36352.po4.ar2.ord6.us.scnet.net [204.93.192.190]<br /> 14&nbsp; &nbsp; 42 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 44 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 51 ms&nbsp; ge146.aggr.chi.colocrossing.com [75.102.34.250]<br /> 15&nbsp; &nbsp; 37 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 36 ms&nbsp; &nbsp; 36 ms&nbsp; host.colocrossing.com [66.225.231.106][/code]Well, it&#039;s one theory I suppose. Maybe it is my ISP being homo, maybe Beast will come in and call me a fucking retard, but maybe this will actually help people.<br /><br />[tt]* Note: Each testing scheme was run 3 times each and the results were similar, the worst out of 3 tests were taken for the final results.[/tt]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2967, 337, 14, 1291911157, 22, 2967, 'Re: For those interested in the team logos', 'Shadow_Ghost', 'Denny_1020@hotmail.com', '67.71.40.69', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Gyrossman link=topic=337.msg2966#msg2966 date=1291818748]<br />Great stuff, Xen. Especially Colts looks sweet as hell, literally.<br /><br />Sexual Panthers are having gay-jokes target on their backs this season!<br />[/quote]<br /><br />That can be changed by placing a pimp hat on the panther&#039;s head', 'xx', 1);
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	(3883, 415, 14, 1301448850, 75, 3883, 'Re: Season 9 / Winter 2011 Playoffs: MASTERBOWL IX - Discussion and Results', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.180.128', 1, 0, '', 'cg, bsk. well played!', 'xx', 1);
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	(4122, 442, 16, 1306649649, 38, 4122, 'Re: A Post About Trading That You Should Read', 'Sabertooth', 'ssj4chazou@hotmail.com', '208.110.243.116', 1, 0, '', 'Don&#039;t be scurd bitches make them trades.&nbsp; wink wink <br /><br />P.S. trade for Saber <br /><br />P.S.S. Haters Gonna Hate', 'xx', 1);
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	(4250, 455, 16, 1309850415, 10, 4250, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '98.225.144.111', 1, 1309850518, 'Ralphis', 'How did this trade involve three teams at the same time? The answer? It did not because it wasn&#039;t just one big trade at all. It involved EBL making two separate trades to two separate teams at the same time. These trades were back to back and there was no three teams about it. Allow me to illustrate what actually happened versus an actual three-way trade.<br /><br />[hr]<br />[center][img]http://ralphis.unidoom.org/stuff/idl/tradea.png[/img][/center]<br />This happened. It is two back to back trades with two unrelated teams. It is an illegal trade and is clearly stated in the rules.<br />[hr]<br />[center][img]http://ralphis.unidoom.org/stuff/idl/tradeb.png[/img][/center]<br />This is a three-way trade. It did not happen and never has in league history. There are no rules regarding a trade of this type in the current IDL rules (though there are from the season 1-4 book, not sure why it was reworded).<br />[hr]<br />In summary, there is no reason why this should be &quot;considered one big trade for all 3 teams&quot; because it is just two simple common trades executed in the same week.<br /><br />Given the information available, I&#039;m not sure how you could FAIRLY ALLOW this trade. There is plenty to go by if you just read the rules on the site! Thank you for your time.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4359, 472, 17, 1311567630, 163, 4359, 'Re: IDL Teams', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.99.94.25', 1, 1311567899, 'Hatred', 'Needless to say, I think all people realized 12 teams probably wasn&#039;t going to work out this season given the sign-ups - perhaps maybe for a few teams who got creative, sure. Regardless, I understood what it was you guys wanted to accomplish to only expand the league as it&#039;s player base grew, the problem was hardly anybody signed up this season. I&#039;ve heard everything from changing draft-styles (changing the draft order 2 days before the draft wasn&#039;t such a hot idea either) to adding/subtracting teams. The real issue is this: talent. We hardly have any of it. We&#039;re losing our stronger veterans faster than we&#039;re regaining skilled, potential-full new blood. Going back to 8 teams would have solved it this season, sure, but what happens when the talent pool dwindles even further? The IDL-R was nice last season but a lot of matches weren&#039;t played, this isn&#039;t in particular anyone&#039;s fault except the people who played in it. But I&#039;ll go over some things that I believe may help for future seasons:<br /><br />1. Stop letting shitty players be captains.<br /><br />Sorry Legion, Goatface, GastlyDeath or how many other millions of bad players have been allowed to cap. The reality is, we&#039;ve learned from this season how important one good person, or bad person, can be to a team. The reality is, when you allow players who aren&#039;t even at an IDL skill level take control of teams, you&#039;ve already handicapped that team by one player. I&#039;m tired of hearing &quot;oh well it&#039;s hard enough to find caps as it is!&quot; Then make people captain. Set a random draft pool for 16 of the top players (ranked by the IDL community) and the top 8 are made captains. It doesn&#039;t have to be decided by that format, but I get the feeling some top notch players are more willing to cap than you assume. For example, tell some of them they&#039;ll end up on bad teams if they don&#039;t cap.<br /><br />2. 8 Teams. It&#039;s been said enough, it really doesn&#039;t need to be overstated.<br /><br />3. Stop fucking with the draft order two days before the live draft. In fact, it doesn&#039;t need to be changed at all. The current Snake Draft system is perfect. Boohoo, somebody gets 12th overall pick and somebody gets 1st, shit happens. At least 12th gets back to back and 1st gets a shitty 3rd. I understand we shouldn&#039;t hold captains to the level of a previous team that was successful (or hold them accountable for a team being bad the previous season) and have their draft order be determined by somebody else. But, the problem is, most captains aren&#039;t willing to commit more than two seasons and it&#039;s the only way we can logically place a draft system. Besides, with 8 teams and a smaller draft, 1-8 will all be good selections and if we had the sign-up list we did this season, that #8 overall pick would be a lovely thing to have. <br /><br />Here&#039;s the deal: we&#039;re trying to cater to shitty captains and it&#039;s ruining the good captain&#039;s seasons by doing so (or would if we pursue alternate draft methods, etc). Stop trying to cater to them. If Legion is going to continue to suck and complain about ZD not registering his shots before he realizes he&#039;s bad and doesn&#039;t even pull the trigger half the time, then that&#039;s his own damn fault - the rest of the player-base in the draft shouldn&#039;t be held hostage by him as a captain. I&#039;m not trying to pick on Legion, but he just isn&#039;t really that good. He has improved and with some work, maybe he could be a bit better. In fact, this season, he might even make a decent 3rd on the right team. FLS just isn&#039;t the right team for him. Anyway, when you have a system mixed with shitty captains/good captains, it doesn&#039;t work. It either needs to be all bad players as captains or all good players as captains, because if you mix it up, the good players will dominate (see Ralphs, Nostar&#039;s, Bones&#039;, LB&#039;s, Tai&#039;s and some of the other good player&#039;s records vs players like Legion, goatface and Ghastlydeath [or Gastly, however the fuck you spell that morons name]). It&#039;s not easy to get good players to cap but it probably is the IDL&#039;s biggest problem to getting talent. You keep telling Chew he&#039;s going to be drafted by bad players every season and eventually he&#039;ll quit. Nobody wants to get drafted by a bad player, it&#039;s really why I became captain when I didn&#039;t necessarily want to be. I admit I&#039;m not a great captain but it seemed better than going into the draft and risk being drafted by somebody bad. If all the captains were good, I probably wouldn&#039;t feel bad about entering the draft as I&#039;m sure a lot of people who are active doom players but not IDL players currently would feel. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(6676, 650, 18, 1334630985, 267, 6676, 'Re: IDL-R Important Information', 'RecKle$$_', 'Aesthesic@hotmail.com', '189.225.55.156', 1, 0, '', 'U R FAT', 'xx', 1);
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	(5806, 569, 20, 1325404389, 163, 5806, 'Re: Winter 2012 Team Pics', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '76.233.133.120', 1, 0, '', '[center][img]http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9288/teamphoto.gif[/img][/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(6103, 564, 20, 1327718802, 8, 6103, 'Re: W2012 FREE AGENTS - TRADE HISTORY - WAIVER WIRE', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@intldoomleague.org', '108.207.0.195', 1, 0, '', '[b]Plasmadicks United[/b]<br />Traded Devisin to Free Agency in exchange for Cecil (Week 4)', 'xx', 1);
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	(4488, 487, 16, 1312651725, 0, 4488, 'Re: IDL SUMMER 2011 ALLSTAR SELECTION', 'capodecima', '', '88.103.101.55', 1, 0, '', 'INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE<br />Pick 1 TurSKA<br />Pick 2 Junior<br />Pick 3 Tai<br />Pick 4 LordBritish<br />Pick 5 Gyrossman<br /><br />WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE<br />Pick 1 ThatsJustPrime<br />Pick 2 ItalianStallion<br />Pick 3 PotentPotables <br />Pick 4 Legion<br />Pick 5 mikehail', 'xx', 1);
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	(8956, 886, 18, 1367213439, 19, 8956, 'Re: IDL Radio #4 - 4/28/13', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.53.242.178', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=capo link=topic=886.msg8954#msg8954 date=1367179720]<br />Can you guys change voices and stand out in clown disguises ?&nbsp; ???<br />[/quote]<br /><br />biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch', 'xx', 1);
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	(2940, 335, 14, 1290886955, 69, 2940, 'Re: IDL Twelve-Team Playoff Format Poll', 'Goatface', 'roger.banango@gmail.com', '76.178.184.215', 1, 0, '', 'Bye weeks are lame. Upsets are great. 8 teams.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2817, 313, 14, 1289230798, 0, 2940, 'Re: IDL Winter 2011 Signups Open', 'Propane', '', '78.92.75.149', 1, 1290896500, 'Propane', 'Name: Propaganda<br />Country: Hungary<br />Email contact: forghion@hotmail.com<br />Instant Message Contact: IRC<br />Regular Availability: Monday-Thursday late afternoon/evening; Friday-Sunday afternoon to midnight (GMT+1)', 'xx', 1);
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	(2943, 335, 14, 1290913846, 147, 2943, 'Re: IDL Twelve-Team Playoff Format Poll', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '68.105.199.21', 1, 0, '', 'I looked at it from a purely competitive standpoint.&nbsp; With less playoff teams, each regular season game will matter a lot more, which would up the intensity imo.<br /><br />Didn&#039;t realize you were a buncha furries', 'xx', 1);
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	(2945, 301, 15, 1290919500, 60, 2945, 'Re: General Tournament Discussion', 'Jkist3', 'jefferson.kist@duke.edu', '99.147.123.163', 1, 0, '', 'Me vs Tai:<br /><br />Moo:50 - 38<br />pobla:50 - 34<br />judas:50 -20 <br /><br />http://www.speedyshare.com/files/25413366/jkist_tai.zip<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(3747, 410, 14, 1300211648, 15, 3747, 'Re: Free wins....', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '68.171.231.80', 1, 0, '', 'I was just making a thread to stir up some shit.&nbsp; I know KGB is at fault when they couldn&#039;t get all their members on. But I was a bit startled on how fast it seemed they got ruled out of a reschedule.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know what really happened between KGB and TKV getting a reschedule done, but that&#039;s between them. Also I was not trying to blackmail anyone by deciding to not captain next season. Its a personal choice I made that has nothing to do with this situation.&nbsp; I simply wanted to let everyone know, and if you want to know what the reasons are you can simply whisper me in IRC.&nbsp; I didn&#039;t intend for people to type out bibles ROFL. But damn, IDL is srs bzns!', 'xx', 1);
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	(2944, 313, 14, 1290918989, 35, 2945, 'Re: IDL Winter 2011 Signups Open', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.240.85.23', 1, 1290920308, 'Whiteboy567', 'So DD is a little tied up at the moment but said it was alright that i go ahead and sign him up:<br /><br />[quote]Name:&nbsp; Xenaero<br />Country: United States<br />Email contact: Xenaero@unidoom.com<br />Instant Message Contact: IRC #crymore<br />Available: Everyday, every night baby[/quote]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2946, 313, 14, 1290928361, 1980, 2946, 'Re: IDL Winter 2011 Signups Open', 'Wazzup', 'wazzupw@gmail.com', '76.192.5.10', 1, 0, '', 'Name: Wazzup<br />Country: USA<br />Email contact: wazzupw@gmail.com<br />Instant Message Contact: IRC<br />Regular Availability: At night, or whenever I am online.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3885, 418, 14, 1301543653, 158, 3885, 'I won IDL again', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '207.112.82.63', 1, 0, '', 'Wtf is losing?<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGXzlRoNtHU<br /><br />I&#039;m the best.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4123, 442, 16, 1306649889, 2, 4123, 'Re: A Post About Trading That You Should Read', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.37.22.79', 1, 0, '', 'I will trade noob for saber!', 'xx', 1);
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	(4251, 455, 16, 1309851762, 89, 4251, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'Solar_Flare', 'cdstrangle@gmail.com', '70.241.18.82', 1, 0, '', 'Stop crying already, soon not only will we have to buy you wigs, we would also have to buy you pacifiers and bibs as well.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2948, 335, 14, 1290990709, 49, 2948, 'Re: IDL Twelve-Team Playoff Format Poll', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '216.164.140.107', 1, 0, '', 'make it like hockey, everyone gets into the playoffs except the leafs', 'xx', 1);
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	(2949, 337, 14, 1290993436, 19, 2949, 'For those interested in the team logos', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.1.173', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;ve uploaded them to my ud.org space: http://xen.unidoom.org/doom/idl/<br /><br />Original sizes of 725x725 show off the full size logos. IDL-Logos.zip contains all 3 variations of each of the 12 logos for an action-packed 36 images to utilize in your very own team fan site.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4360, 472, 17, 1311567980, 1322, 4360, 'Re: IDL Teams', 'SwiftShot', 'markwwfc1992@hotmail.com', '82.30.151.199', 1, 0, '', 'I think 8 or 10 teams would be better for the IDL itself, although I doubt I would be drafted in that case&nbsp; :(', 'xx', 1);
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	(6104, 597, 18, 1327721851, 147, 6104, 'Re: New TotalTrash Servers!', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.35.212', 1, 0, '', 'they are terrible', 'xx', 1);
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	(3181, 364, 14, 1294545906, 0, 3198, 'IDL Streaming/Casting', 'Fastidious', '', '75.4.134.69', 1, 1294689377, 'Fastidious', 'OK I think we need some volunteers to start covering matches.&nbsp; The main reason is the IDL has a lot of players and spectators now and is limited by the 16 player limit on ZDaemon servers.&nbsp; I did some testing and don&#039;t have enough bandwidth to stream but maybe some other people do.&nbsp; I have 384k upload and it wasn&#039;t enough, my guess is you need closer to 1mb.&nbsp; Right now Caboose aka Rosking is going to start trying to cover some matches but he might not always be able to do so.&nbsp; For instance the he likely can&#039;t cover tomorrow&#039;s match at 7:45pm.&nbsp; Also there should be some casting opportunities for people even if you can&#039;t stream yourself.&nbsp; Via either vent/teamspeak/skype it should be possible to get a couple people talking during the stream.<br /><br />[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124256]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124256[/url] - if you want to try and figure out how to stream yourself<br /><br />Livestream.com with their free software Procaster is very easy to use.&nbsp; I got it working in no time flat but my connection again can&#039;t quite handle it.<br /><br />[b]If anyone is interested in helping out, please post here.[/b]', 'xx', 1);
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	(6677, 645, 21, 1334637084, 46, 6677, 'Re: Week 1 (APR 9 - APR 15) - ZDCTF04 (MAP04) - Discussion and Results', 'Roscoe', 'dalekcomander@gmail.com', '99.163.129.47', 1, 0, '', 'http://uploading.com/files/241mae54/2012.04.15_18.00.07_idl2012silent.108.zdo/<br /><br />Hopefully this link works.&nbsp; I&#039;ve never tried this site before.<br /><br />Here&#039;s my side of the game.&nbsp; Sorrowful we didn&#039;t play slightly better.&nbsp; I fouled up Dew first half of the first game, and we pulled it together better, but not good enough second game.&nbsp; Woe!', 'xx', 1);
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	(8175, 797, 25, 1359006620, 213, 8175, 'Re: WEEK 3 - MAP26 ZDCTF26: Status: Idle (JAN 21 - JAN 27) - Discussion and Results', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '97.92.40.97', 1, 0, '', 'Hi, Beast.&nbsp; I thought you did really well in our game the other day.<br /><br />You can upload your demo under the Profiles section of the IDL website: http://www.intldoomleague.org/profiles/players .&nbsp; Just log in using your forum account, and there should be choose file/upload demo buttons ready to go.<br /><br />Sometimes when I&#039;m having trouble connecting to irc, it helps if I try to connect to a specific server.&nbsp; So instead of connecting to irc.quakenet.org, try connecting to one of the following:<br /><br />servercentral.il.us.quakenet.org<br />gameservers.nj.us.quakenet.org<br />gameservers.tx.us.quakenet.org', 'xx', 1);
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	(2950, 335, 14, 1291026804, 75, 2950, 'Re: IDL Twelve-Team Playoff Format Poll', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.180.128', 1, 0, '', 'except teams eliminated let&#039;s say two thirds into the season can just give their remaining matches away, making someone&#039;s life much easier. that skews the competition.<br /><br />also the team that field&#039;s lb can be renamed to islanders.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2951, 335, 14, 1291048427, 19, 2951, 'Re: IDL Twelve-Team Playoff Format Poll', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.1.173', 1, 0, '', 'COLORS @_@', 'xx', 1);
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	(2952, 263, 1, 1291055479, 89, 2952, 'Re: Mike take a pic of your kitchen', 'Solar_Flare', 'cdstrangle@gmail.com', '129.7.185.227', 1, 0, '', 'the truth is he doesnt make food in his kitchen because he&#039;s too busy admiring granite ', 'xx', 1);
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	(2953, 335, 14, 1291058177, 55, 2953, 'Re: IDL Twelve-Team Playoff Format Poll', 'ReXn0r', 'yannik_marcos@hotmail.com', '189.152.7.29', 1, 0, '', '8 teams in the playoffs are fine imo =)', 'xx', 1);
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	(2954, 337, 14, 1291065847, 216, 2954, 'Re: For those interested in the team logos', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '65.92.127.20', 1, 0, '', 'The new logos are very well done, especially the demonic colts and the techno vikings&nbsp; :)', 'xx', 1);
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	(3588, 389, 14, 1298919698, 30, 3588, 'Re: Totaltrash Server Expansion', 'Beast', 'kjolly@uwm.edu', '129.89.125.201', 1, 0, '', 'Nostar&#039;s explanation is right on point, I for some reason take extra HOP&#039;s to the Chicago server which increased ping and ultimately lag. I&#039;m glad to see the expansion. However to the other server in the same city my the route my packets take are different (less HOP&#039;s) and I don&#039;t ping bad. <br /><br />When I get time to talk to whoever I&#039;m guessing Ladna I can get ChaosCore running some IDL servers too.<br /><br />(Quadcore 4 gigs of RAM gig link to the core, 10gig at core to internet2 priority traffic)(funny I just got off the phone with cogent sales manager 8)<br /><br />With more servers we can avoid and or have a better chance at avoiding ping,lag , and connection issues. <br /><br />P.S.<br />One way to try to correct a bad route is to disconnect totally from the server, wait a lil bit. Then reconnect, you would have to close IDE totally to fully disconnect your client. Hopefully when you relaunch IDE it will take a more logical route but this is only a chance basis. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(2955, 335, 14, 1291082934, 1374, 2955, 'Re: IDL Twelve-Team Playoff Format Poll', 'LordAtreyu', 'T_Power_DX@hotmail.com', '204.237.67.136', 1, 0, '', 'I think 6 Teams in the playoffs works.<br /><br /><br />[quote author=Killingblair link=topic=335.msg2948#msg2948 date=1290990709]<br />make it like hockey, everyone gets into the playoffs except the leafs<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Ouch.&nbsp; :&#039;(', 'xx', 1);
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	(2956, 335, 14, 1291086318, 15, 2956, 'Re: IDL Twelve-Team Playoff Format Poll', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.89.132', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Killingblair link=topic=335.msg2948#msg2948 date=1290990709]<br />make it like hockey, everyone gets into the playoffs except the leafs<br />[/quote]<br /><br /><br />ROFLROFLROFL<br /><br />Yeah 8 teams...', 'xx', 1);
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	(4124, 442, 16, 1306680105, 8, 4124, 'Re: A Post About Trading That You Should Read', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '96.233.70.75', 1, 0, '', 'Trading is something that should ALWAYS be encouraged in this league. Despite the fact that some of the more infamous trades didn&#039;t always work out, I think most of them were done for all the right reasons. I too have attempted trades with a number of captains, many of them flat out refuse to talk about and others never get back to you. It&#039;s a shame really; I have seen many teams I have attempted to help have terrible seasons. Whether or not my trade would have made that team better I will never know, but captains can be very stubborn about it. <br /><br />It&#039;s pretty easy to see right after the draft which teams have absolutely no chance without some sort of a trade happening during the season. I have to say that every pre-season I usually offer at least one captain a trade in order to help them. This has never panned out. I don&#039;t know what it could be besides them being stubborn. I have always been willing to sacrifice a piece of my team in order to help another one succeed, and I think this is behavior that should be encouraged, especially if the trade happens to help you out as well. Besides...what would we have to talk about without Mass and LB MAKING MOVES this pre-season? That changed the picture just a little bit..', 'xx', 1);
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	(2957, 337, 14, 1291104490, 157, 2957, 'Re: For those interested in the team logos', 'Legion_', 'theomegaantin00b@gmail.com', '71.121.97.16', 1, 0, '', 'thanks xen you are a champ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4372, 472, 17, 1311825959, 216, 4372, 'Re: IDL Teams', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '67.68.35.162', 1, 0, '', 'I like Xen&#039;s idea ', 'xx', 1);
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	(3695, 405, 14, 1299607094, 19, 3695, 'Season 9 / Winter 2011 Playoffs: The Quarterfinal Round - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.249.196', 1, 1299627283, 'Xenaero', '[center][b][size=5]Official Servers for The Quarterfinals Round of IDL Winter 2011[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League SUC Homefield - MAP28 #1][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11022[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League TKV Homefield - MAP17 #1][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11023[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League BSK Homefield - MAP04 #1][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11024[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League BBC Homefield - MAP29 #1][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11025[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League SUC Homefield - MAP28 #2][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11026[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League TKV Homefield - MAP17 #2][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11027[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League BSK Homefield - MAP04 #2][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11028[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League BBC Homefield - MAP29 #2][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11029[/b]<br /><br />=======================================================<br /><br />[url=http://i.imgur.com/X5Anc.png][img]http://i.imgur.com/bdJLBl.jpg[/img]<br />[b]Click here[/b] (or on the image) to see the full size brackets.[/url]<br /><br />=======================================================<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/wljyJ.png[/img]<br />The Super Chargers come into the Quarterfinals round with a 8-1 record in the regular season, making them the titan to topple in this seasons&#039; playoffs. Their only loss, however, was not attributed to the Electric Bills, so it is safe to say that the Bills have an uphill battle, with the homefield of the Chargers showing they performed exceptionally well against the Killing Browns in Week 7, shutting them out in less than 10 minutes total. Will the Bills pull off an incredible upset or are they doomed before they set foot on the field? Looks to me like the Super Chargers aren&#039;t going to run out of juice just yet.<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/juTyl.png[/img]<br />Ah, MAP17. The Vikings showing in a Week 8 victory that they were rather powerful there. However, the Browns had less of a struggle from their own Week 8 opponents. The IDC North is one of the most vicious rivalries going into the playoffs. I&#039;d objectively say that this is the most even playoff match we&#039;ll see this week. What will be interesting is who will show the most MAP17 supremacy as I don&#039;t recall either of these opponents even practicing against each other on it during the week it was being played. It&#039;s going to be a nasty close match, I think at the end, with the Browns edging out ahead of the Vikings.<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/8bb7S.png[/img]<br />The Packers are powerful, and it looks like on paper that they would excel in the type of frag-heavy map that is MAP04. We&#039;ve seen a lot of teams that would be solid theoretically and yet fall through in practice. Their opponent has been showing a lot of strength in the closing weeks of Season 9, the Panthers seem to be on a hot streak, only slightly slowed by their final week tie against the Colts. Will MAP04 show to be more their style? This might be the game to watch this week! I can&#039;t bring myself to say for certain what I think will happen, but I&#039;m pulling for an upset, the Panthers grinding more flags through technique than the Packers can through power.<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/9sGg9.png[/img]<br />It might be bad juju to speculate on your own match, but with the Cowboys picking the very map (MAP29) the Niners suffered their first and a very horrendous loss to their opponents in this playoff round, coupled with their 0-2 head to head record versus the Cowboys, it doesn&#039;t look good at all for the Niners statistically. Will they learn from the mistakes made in Week 3 of the regular season? This could be their only hope. &lt;obi-wan.jpg&gt;<br /><br />=======================================================[/center]<br /><br />By the way I have no idea how the servers are gonna be laid out so nostar will edit when he gets around.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3748, 410, 14, 1300214807, 130, 3748, 'Re: Free wins....', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '38.109.187.5', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=410.msg3747#msg3747 date=1300211648]<br />I was just making a thread to stir up some shit.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Two things. <br />1.) Tai read this part of the thread please. THIS is what trolling is. Not everything anyone says is meant to troll. THIS is the definition of a troll. <br />2.) You&#039;re an idiot Stall. I hope you do quit so LB can carry someone worthwhile to the post season. If anyone can really extort the league with their participation you are certainly not that guy.<br /><br />[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=410.msg3747#msg3747 date=1300211648]<br />I didn&#039;t intend for people to type out bibles ROFL. But damn, IDL is srs bzns!<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I know most of you idiots are in high school and 1000 words seems like the end of the world but some of us are college educated and in being much smarter than you we get to tell you what&#039;s up. So feel free not to read these posts but also feel free to shut up and be thankful that your intellectual overlords are looking out for you.<br /><br />TL;DR all you want but this is why when you complain about things you&#039;re dismissed as an idiot whiner.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3886, 418, 14, 1301544152, 89, 3886, 'Re: I won IDL again', 'Solar_Flare', 'cdstrangle@gmail.com', '70.241.22.138', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Jenova link=topic=418.msg3885#msg3885 date=1301543653]<br />I&#039;m the best.<br />[/quote]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4489, 487, 16, 1312652845, 19, 4489, 'Re: IDL SUMMER 2011 ALLSTAR SELECTION', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.183.245', 1, 0, '', 'INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE<br />Ralphis<br />LordBritish<br />Nostar<br />Junior<br />RussianDumbass<br /><br />WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE<br />HumanBones<br />ThatsJustPrime<br />mikehail<br />Potentpotables<br />Legion', 'xx', 1);
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	(6678, 622, 17, 1334689545, 15, 6678, 'Re: Moving IDL to Odamex', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '173.178.167.41', 1, 0, '', '-YOUR TEAM HAS THE ENEMY FLAG- [Announcer speaks too much.]<br /><br />-Blind on item pick up.<br /><br />-Remove/fix current graphics render so textures don&#039;t jitter.<br /><br />Probably the only problems that need fixing.', 'xx', 1);
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	(5351, 531, 1, 1321203809, 19, 5351, 'Re: DTTC', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.180.25', 1, 0, '', 'jeez, nostar.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6647, 646, 21, 1333830630, 8, 6678, 'SPRING 2012 FREE AGENTS - TRADE HISTORY', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@intldoomleague.org', '108.207.0.195', 1, 1334762678, 'HumanBones', '[list][center][size=20pt][b]IDL-R Free Agency[/b][/size]<br /><br />Majik<br />Zoltar<br /><br />[b][size=18pt]Withdrawn/Dismissed[/size][/b]<br />Watermelon withdrew (April 18)<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[b][size=18pt]Spring 2012 TRADE HISTORY[/size][/b]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Moon Dolphins[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]Traded Capodecima to Free Agency in exchange for Dannyboy (April 7)[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Boxers and Dooming[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]None[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Gotcha! City Goofballs[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]None[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=12pt][b]Chaingun Rangers[/b][/size]<br />[list][li]Traded Majik to Free Agency in exchange for Spider (April 6)[/li]<br />[list][li]Watermelon withdrew; traded to Free Agency for Capodecima (April 18)[/li][/list][/list][/list]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2988, 341, 14, 1292220190, 69, 2988, 'Re: Reserve League', 'Goatface', 'roger.banango@gmail.com', '129.101.16.254', 1, 0, '', 'One idea we are tossing out is finding players who would dedicate themselves as reserve league captains (while also playing on IDL teams if they&#039;re drafted).&nbsp; Captain stability was one of the main problems last time(captains kept getting traded to IDL teams) and this would fix that.&nbsp; This could also help us have more teams, so if 8 people did this, 24 free agents would be on rosters as opposed to if we didn&#039;t do this and had to do 4 or 6 teams.<br /><br />So would anyone be willing to do this?', 'xx', 1);
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	(2958, 301, 15, 1291183669, 19, 2958, 'Re: General Tournament Discussion', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.1.173', 1, 0, '', 'Okay, well, don&#039;t know how else to put this! Collision forfeit.<br /><br />Only one map was played, and even then, it wasn&#039;t a full game: http://imgur.com/E7to6.png<br /><br />He opted out of the round and any further rounds after his connection went to hell. Here&#039;s the demo and some logs.<br /><br />http://xen.unidoom.org/doom/mac/mac2010-xen-v-coll-t.zip<br /><br />[code]Collision[R]: uh oph<br />[ud]xen: ?<br />Collision[R]: ping<br />[ud]xen: f<br />[ud]xen: ill wait<br />Collision[R]: roomates are back<br />Collision[R]: i guess ill play with it<br />Collision[R]: its not gonna go down<br />[ud]xen: :/<br />[ud]xen: we can do the other rounds later<br />&quot;freelook&quot; is &quot;false&quot;<br />&quot;freelook&quot; is &quot;true&quot;<br />Collision[R]: i spose<br />Collision[R] was splattered by [ud]xen&#039;s super shotgun.<br />Collision[R]: ill just give u the win<br />Collision[R]: gg<br />[ud]xen: thats not fair<br />[ud]xen: your ping seems fine<br />Collision[R]: i cant do much about it<br />[ud]xen: right now<br />[ud]xen: well lets play it out<br />[ud]xen: you&#039;ll get a few more frags<br />Collision[R] was splattered by [ud]xen&#039;s super shotgun.<br />Collision[R] should have stood back.<br />[ud]xen was splattered by Collision[R]&#039;s super shotgun.<br />You got the super shotgun!<br />Collision[R] was splattered by [ud]xen&#039;s super shotgun.<br />Collision[R]: heh<br />Collision[R]: nah<br />Collision[R]: im good<br />Collision[R]: gg<br />[ud]xen: alright<br />Captured ScreenShots/DM-20101201-005915.png<br />[ud]xen: gg<br />Collision[R] disconnected[/code]<br /><br />Shit sucks in a tournament game that would probably have been drawn out and close in score. I hate winning this way. GG anyway tho man. Sorry it couldn&#039;t go down. :-\\', 'xx', 1);
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	(2960, 337, 14, 1291283191, 10, 2960, 'Re: For those interested in the team logos', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://www.gifbin.com/bin/102010/1288176919_mouth-cat.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4579, 486, 26, 1313466185, 163, 4579, 'Re: Wiki', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.67.244.6', 1, 0, '', 'My guess is that these stats were logged up until Winter of 2011? ', 'xx', 1);
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	(2964, 301, 15, 1291405087, 19, 2964, 'Re: General Tournament Discussion', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.1.173', 1, 0, '', 'We played the additional rounds after some hostage negotiations involving Collision&#039;s router and his gay roommates. End result: He wins 3-1! (Counting the previous Judas round)<br /><br />King1: 50-46 collision&#039;s favor<br />Moo2d: 50-46 collision&#039;s favor<br />Pobla8: 50-36 collision&#039;s favor<br /><br />ggs 8)', 'xx', 1);
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	(2968, 337, 14, 1291979736, 38, 2968, 'Re: For those interested in the team logos', 'Sabertooth', 'ssj4chazou@hotmail.com', '66.211.46.100', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Shadow_Ghost link=topic=337.msg2967#msg2967 date=1291911157]<br />[quote author=Gyrossman link=topic=337.msg2966#msg2966 date=1291818748]<br />Great stuff, Xen. Especially Colts looks sweet as hell, literally.<br /><br />Sexual Panthers are having gay-jokes target on their backs this season!<br />[/quote]<br /><br />That can be changed by placing a pimp hat on the panther&#039;s head<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Gay pimps are still gay.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2971, 338, 14, 1292113076, 20, 2971, 'Re: Fun stuff this season...', 'Mantis-X', 'nesman90@aol.com', '98.25.91.185', 1, 0, '', 'My suggestion for fantasy numbers<br /><br />My example:<br /><br />Flag cap - 20 pts<br /><br />Choose a whole team for &quot;DEF&quot; - Allow 0 flags (40 pts), 1 flag (20), 2 flag (15), 3 flag (5), 4 flag (0), 5 flags (-5)<br /><br />Frags - 10-20(1 pt), 21-49(2pts), 50-69 (5 pts), 70-99 (10 pts), 100+(30 pts)<br /><br />The smaller the numbers the easier to calculate I&#039;d say and not having to calculate all the flag returns and whatnot. Just lump it into an overall teams defense.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(3343, 379, 3, 1296696648, 2015, 3343, 'Greetings', 'Pang_De', 'raikou.209@live.com', '71.230.199.170', 1, 0, '', 'Good day to you all.<br /><br />I&#039;m Pang De (Goliath for those that know me well already.) coming from the Skulltag area. I&#039;ve been interested in some competition for a while, and Skulltag really doesn&#039;t have much of that interesting competition that I&#039;ve heard about from back then, so I&#039;ve been practicing to become IDL material. I&#039;m hoping sooner or later I can become a part of IDL and donate what I can to this community. Thanks for reading.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4125, 442, 16, 1306684259, 38, 4125, 'Re: A Post About Trading That You Should Read', 'Sabertooth', 'ssj4chazou@hotmail.com', '208.110.243.116', 1, 0, '', 'Pride in your draft picks is what I think has the most to do with being a stubborn dick. Even very beneficial trades that pop up will not be seized, because the captain simply believes that it looks poorly on his ability to draft. <br /><br />Hopefully I&#039;m wrong, because this sounds like a load of crap.<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(3589, 392, 14, 1298923973, 130, 3589, 'Re: Week 8 (Feb 21 - Feb 28) : THIRTY417 (Map17) - Discussion and Results', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '38.109.187.5', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=392.msg3584#msg3584 date=1298867199]<br />Star get a better server, that round 1 was horrendous to play in for literally every player. [/quote]<br /><br />horrible for everyone except LB...WHO IS IN NS!!! Sorry miek.<br /><br />Also I have 3 servers running. Idiota!<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(3200, 350, 14, 1294690925, 0, 3200, 'Re: W2011 Suicide League', 'capodecima', '', '88.103.101.55', 1, 0, '', 'bbc', 'xx', 1);
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	(3887, 418, 14, 1301579781, 8, 3887, 'Re: I won IDL again', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '209.239.208.116', 1, 0, '', 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz5ODQCueP8', 'xx', 1);
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	(4530, 483, 16, 1312854778, 17, 4536, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '69.245.157.115', 1, 1313025941, 'Mionic_D', 'http://www.speedyshare.com/files/29811717/MayhemBeta0810.wad<br />(Beta version 2.1 8/10/11)<br /><br />Name: Premeditated Mayhem<br />Build Time: 14 Hours over 3 days<br />Basis: Old (Early 09) Speedmap that never saw release, remade from scratch/memory<br />Compat: Boom<br /><br />The bizarre lovechild of ZDCTF18 and ZDCTF19 just had sex with ZDCTF04 (Snowbase theme lolol).&nbsp; This is the result.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8560, 849, 1, 1361854241, 16, 8560, 'Garbage thread', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '98.216.91.67', 1, 0, '', '[IMG]http://cf.chucklesnetwork.agj.co/items/1/1/8/9/7/2/i-think-this-is-a-cool-story-bro-but-let-me-call-my-buddy-whos-an-expert-on-cool-s.jpg[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4720, 483, 16, 1315431809, 19, 4720, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.183.245', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=mikefails link=topic=483.msg4719#msg4719 date=1315429879]<br />Kind of a funky flag drop at the moment, almost like a void drop in that it would be nearly unreturnable in game.&nbsp; Teleporter would be extremely campable with plasma, could be hard to get people out?&nbsp; Nice detailing <br />[/quote]<br /><br />Should have foreseen these critical issues. Be it that there is a final compilation wad as it stands, in the event the map gets into the pack, there is an updated version to use that addresses these concerns: http://www.speedyshare.com/files/30223755/xenidlctf01b.wad', 'xx', 1);
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	(2985, 341, 14, 1292219883, 49, 2985, 'Re: Reserve League', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '216.164.140.107', 1, 0, '', 'The point has to get across that this minor league is still a competitive league, not just something like &quot;oh you didn&#039;t make it, play in a crappy league to feel better.&quot; It still should be hyper-competitive, and [b]tha rules[/b] should still be enforced in terms attendance, etc. Players are not only playing for a title, they are playing for a chance to be on a true major league IDL team.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8235, 812, 28, 1360128838, 2271, 8235, 'Overview of Hitscan Latency Compensation (Unlagged)', 'Dr. Sean', 'grandpachuck187@gmail.com', '75.48.74.141', 1, 0, '', 'Hitscan latency compensation is a topic that causes a great deal of confusion as to how it works and what side effects are to be expected. The community has long ago adopted the term &quot;unlagged&quot;, which in itself is a source of confusion but hopefully this post can clarify several points. For further detail on the topic, please read this [url=https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Latency_Compensating_Methods_in_Client/Server_In-game_Protocol_Design_and_Optimization]excellent overview by Valve[/url], from which Odamex&#039;s algorithm was derived.<br /><br />For the examples in this explanation, we will consider two players: Player A with a 150ms ping and Player B with a 20ms ping. <br /><br />[i]Background info:[/i]<br />Odamex has a fixed frame-rate of 35fps, which means each frame lasts roughly 29ms. That also conveniently corresponds to the network update rate and the game physics update rate. <br /><br />Odamex also uses a term &quot;world index&quot; to refer to the particular set of actor positions that the client has received from the server and uses to draw the sprites for actors in the game (enemy players, etc).<br /><br />[i]How it works:[/i]<br />When Player A aims directly at Player B and presses the fire button, his Odamex client will send all of his input (eg, fire-button, mouse angle, etc) to the server as well as the current world index. The server will receive this input from Player A 75ms later. During this time, Player B may have moved significantly and without latency compensation, Player A would miss his shot.<br /><br />With latency compensation, the server will temporarily move all players except the shooter to their position in the world index that was received from the shooter. In the case of Player A shooting, it means that Player B would be moved to his position 150ms ago. The server then performs hitscan collision detection and then moves all of the players back to their current real position. This compensation allows Player A to aim directly at Player B and successfully hit him, even with adverse network conditions.<br /><br />One side effect of this compensation can be seen from the point-of-view of Player B. It is possible for Player B to have gotten behind cover of a wall and still be shot by Player A. This is due to the fact that Player A has high latency and thus his input takes a noticeable amount of time to reach the server and during this time, Player B can move behind a wall. The latency compensation will temporarily move Player B to his position at the time Player A pressed fire, which was directly in the line-of-sight of Player A.<br /><br />Hopefully this description is not too technical and also did not omit any details that are necessary for understanding the way latency compensation works in modern FPS games. Let me know and I can further clarify any points which are not clear.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(3696, 402, 14, 1299632961, 16, 3696, 'Re: A general response to server lag', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '149.152.191.3', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Hatred link=topic=402.msg3691#msg3691 date=1299604672]<br />I swear to God Tai, it seems like you&#039;ve been in college for like 10 years now. What the hell are you trying to become, a doctor? :P<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Lol, if all goes well, I&#039;d have only gotten my bachelor&#039;s in 5 (next spring). : P', 'xx', 1);
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	(3749, 410, 14, 1300215494, 2, 3749, 'Re: Free wins....', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.51.218', 1, 1300215938, 'mikefails', '[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=410.msg3747#msg3747 date=1300211648]<br />I was just making a thread to stir up some shit.&nbsp; I know KGB is at fault when they couldn&#039;t get all their members on. I didn&#039;t intend for people to type out bibles ROFL. But damn, IDL is srs bzns!<br />[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious link=topic=179.msg1628#msg1628 date=1267845751]<br />Meh, I&#039;m too lazy to reply to all that, but I will just say I know I was flinging shit.&nbsp; Sometimes crazy shit makes people think, myself included.[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=Beast link=topic=146.msg1288#msg1288 date=1260915645]<br />looky here dumbass # 2, I&#039;m upset about nothing, I just like talking shit, some ppl just can&#039;t handle it.[/quote]<br /><br />Do you see the parallels here Stallion?&nbsp; DO YOU?!??!??!!!??', 'xx', 1);
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	(3590, 392, 14, 1298937372, 19, 3590, 'Re: Week 8 (Feb 21 - Feb 28) : THIRTY417 (Map17) - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.7.85', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=nostar link=topic=392.msg3589#msg3589 date=1298923973]<br />Also I have 3 servers running. Idiota!<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Yeah, well, whichever one we&#039;re playing on, make it better!!!<br /><br />[img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/280211/1298937202.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4126, 442, 16, 1306694380, 147, 4126, 'Re: A Post About Trading That You Should Read', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.35.212', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Sabertooth link=topic=442.msg4125#msg4125 date=1306684259]<br />Pride in your draft picks... [/quote]<br /><br />That&#039;s an interesting idea saber, one that I hadn&#039;t really thought of.&nbsp; There are a lot of people that don&#039;t like to admit when they are wrong.&nbsp; I think this is definitely a factor.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4020, 423, 18, 1304562040, 8, 4020, 'Re: Accepting Captain Bids', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '209.239.216.118', 1, 0, '', 'Maybe that&#039;s why I&#039;ve never gotten a PM before..but get on IRC when you can.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4373, 472, 17, 1311846612, 157, 4373, 'Re: IDL Teams', 'Legion_', 'skulltaglegion@hotmail.com', '71.115.108.20', 1, 0, '', 'just to reply to one of hatred&#039;s &quot;points&quot;, when did idl ever cater to the bad captains (according to hatred, me/everyone not him)???????????????? I have not seen or heard anyone giving me an unfair advantage??? apparently I pulled some sort of awesome advantage like a powerplay or something like that from the fucking ether', 'xx', 1);
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	(4721, 501, 16, 1315432301, 158, 4721, 'Re: IDL Map Contest Voting (idl2012.wad)', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '216.254.162.113', 1, 0, '', 'Maybe if they didn&#039;t totally blow.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6105, 597, 18, 1327723375, 216, 6105, 'Re: New TotalTrash Servers!', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '174.92.53.102', 1, 0, '', 'They seem to be MUCH better than the old TT. Nice job star + ladna :)', 'xx', 1);
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	(2970, 338, 14, 1292110213, 0, 2973, 'Fun stuff this season...', 'Fastidious', '', '76.223.252.107', 1, 1292114062, 'Fastidious', 'Couple ideas:<br /><br />-IDL Suicide League like the NFL Suicide League Ralph has run.<br /><br />-IDL Fantasy Draft League.&nbsp; Not sure how this would work.&nbsp; We&#039;d need to figure out how to allocate points.&nbsp; One problem I see is giving value to midfield players.&nbsp; Any suggestions?<br /><br />EDIT: Here are some numbers that might work for the fantasy league.<br /><br />-caps 15 pts each<br />-flag returns 5 pts each<br />-frag 1/4 pt each times frag ratio cubed<br /><br />For example using those you&#039;d get this from the following season:<br /><br />rus 210 pts from caps, 935 pts from returns, 527 pts from frags = 1672 pts<br />nostar 195 caps, 830 returns, 639 frags = 1664 pts<br />ralphis 390 caps, 720 returns, 257 frags = 1367 pts<br />blair 90 caps, 660 returns, 354 frags = 1104 pts<br />tai 135 caps, 650 returns, 301 frags = 1086 pts<br />mike 675 caps, 250 returns, 136 frags = 1061 pts<br />jenova 585 caps, 335 returns, 47 frags = 967 pts<br />rottking 240 caps, 530 returns, 190 frags = 960 pts<br />stall 150 caps, 450 returns, 302 frags = 902 pts<br />whiteboy 270 caps, 320 returns, 284 frags = 874 pts<br />mantis 420 caps, 305 returns, 141 frags = 866 pts<br />ladna 225 caps, 470 returns, 155 frags = 850 pts<br />xen 150 caps, 460 returns, 156 frags = 766 pts<br />saber 35 caps, 505 returns, 191 frags = 731 pts<br />lordbritish 420 caps, 175 returns, 39 frags = 634 pts<br />gyross 375 caps, 200 returns, 52 frags = 627 pts<br />x-ray 135 caps, 275 returns, 204 frags = 614 pts<br />hatred 135 caps, 315 returns, 147 frags = 597 pts<br />strangle 240 caps, 210 returns, 79 frags = 529 pts<br />josh 270 caps, 145 returns, 48 frags = 463 pts<br /><br />Looking at the above maybe it has a bit too much emphasis on frag ratio but very few people can get bunches of frags at a high ratio.&nbsp; Cap points might be a bit low at 15 per cap, but returns seem about right since everyone gets a decent amount of them and only D gets lots.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6106, 597, 18, 1327753148, 0, 6106, 'Re: New TotalTrash Servers!', 'capodecima', '', '90.179.151.60', 1, 0, '', 'yeah they is better than old TT... GJ&nbsp; ;D', 'xx', 1);
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	(2973, 338, 14, 1292114014, 10, 2973, 'Re: Fun stuff this season...', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'Mantis is talking about picking a defense. In NFL Fantasy you pick a bunch of offensive players but usually have one whole defense which awards you pts based on performance.<br /><br />I think playing actual fantasy games makes it a bit easier to visualize what I think we should do but I&#039;ll give a more in depth speech about it later on with some visual aids.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2986, 341, 14, 1292219947, 55, 2986, 'Re: Reserve League', 'ReXn0r', 'yannik_marcos@hotmail.com', '189.160.173.62', 1, 0, '', 'goatface should be banned forever...', 'xx', 1);
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	(2987, 340, 14, 1292219993, 49, 2987, 'Re: Potential Panelists', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '216.164.140.107', 1, 0, '', 'I would like to express interest in another shot as a panelist. I&#039;ll do better this time, I swear.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2974, 338, 14, 1292121245, 3, 2974, 'Re: Fun stuff this season...', 'Joshsmith', 'tonihawker666@yahoo.com', '99.9.212.71', 1, 0, '', 'Sounds like fun for the whole family. I&#039;m not really sure how this kinda stuff works, but are you guys gonna write a script/program and plug in player stats to calculate with some randomness? What about map type skills like &quot;rjump&quot;(basically map 08, but you could set some other maps to a certain number to calculate how useful rjumps could possibly be), apply them to players and throw that somewhere minor in the equation. Some other map type stats to consider are &quot;faking&quot;(map01, go one way, wait, go the other), &quot;item knowledge&quot;(utilizes armor/powerups well), and uhh, whatever else.<br /><br />Might make it a little TOO complicated, but some ideas.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2975, 291, 14, 1292124450, 76, 2975, 'Re: Accepting Captain Bids', 'RussianDumbass', 'russiandumbass@gmail.com', '146.115.165.241', 1, 0, '', 'I am captain. I demand it.&nbsp; &gt;:(&nbsp; &gt;:( &gt;:(&nbsp; &gt;:( &gt;:( &gt;:(<br /><br />That will be all.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3345, 379, 3, 1296711313, 10, 3345, 'Re: Greetings', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'What up', 'xx', 1);
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	(3750, 410, 14, 1300217998, 7, 3750, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '38.109.187.5', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=410.msg3747#msg3747 date=1300211648]I didn&#039;t intend for people to type out bibles ROFL. But damn, IDL is srs bzns![/quote]<br /><br />It might not be serious for most IDL players, and that&#039;s probably the way it should be.&nbsp; But then again, most of you guys haven&#039;t invested thousands of hours and thousands of dollars into IDL, so you naturally wouldn&#039;t be offended if someone reduces all of your efforts to favoritism and incompetence.&nbsp; Yeah sure it&#039;s just a hobby league and this is just a video game, but most of us love this game and the community, so it&#039;s hard to just let things like this roll on by.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3591, 394, 1, 1298939995, 2, 3591, 'Re: An IDL 8v8 mappack', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.51.218', 1, 0, '', 'You can&#039;t explain strangle...', 'xx', 1);
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	(4613, 494, 17, 1313884176, 214, 4613, 'Re: Booting out unwanted maps.', 'RustInPeace', 'sindeception@yahoo.com', '70.241.31.66', 1, 1313884317, 'RustInPeace', 'Oh god yes Prime, how did I miss map25 from ZDCTFMP3? Its a chore of a map with 3&#039;s - 8&#039;s. Of course mp3 is a chore in itself though.<br /><br />[quote=LordBritish]why is map30 not on that list? it has like 0 flow whatsoever[/quote]<br />30 requires [b][i]teamwork[/i][/b] for a score. Also as Ralph said, not all maps have to be a score fest. As Bones said, it may not be a highly favored map but there are good games that take place on 30. Like the MB from a few seasons ago or EBL vs KGB where we came back from a round 1 embarrassment to score 8 unanswered flags.<br /><br /><br />[quote=Fast&#039;s list of lol]..[/quote]<br />I actually agree when it comes to map16. Only Mexicans and non-English speaking fuckers love this map because of the spam attack. I&#039;ve played it once in a priv and the reactions were akin to the ones given when maps like 9, 11 and 25 are chosen. While I have not played it in a 3v3 setting, its probably just as lack luster as 5&#039;s or 8&#039;s. Although I&#039;m sure the ZD Anthology version would play better since the layout was expanded with more tunnels and paths. Maps like 7 and 8 are a boredom fuck but they fall into the type of maps that Bones was talking about earlier.<br /><br />I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever played 24. Maybe some one should pick it during the next priv.<br /><br />32 is a just a troll map put in by Ralphis. There&#039;s only 5 players that can play it well and we already have a map like that. Its called map08.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4021, 423, 18, 1304573351, 89, 4021, 'Re: Accepting Captain Bids', 'Solar_Flare', 'cdstrangle@gmail.com', '69.154.184.49', 1, 0, '', 'i will cap', 'xx', 1);
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	(4127, 442, 16, 1306708378, 130, 4127, 'Re: A Post About Trading That You Should Read', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.4', 1, 1306708861, 'nostar', '[quote author=Hatred link=topic=442.msg4119#msg4119 date=1306646947]<br />I can say, in the very least, the trade restored some balance to the IDC. [/quote]<br /><br />It wasn&#039;t balanced. It was [b]unbalanced [/b]in your favor. Which I guess is a good thing for you but shitty for a team that legitimately drafted well and and did well.<br /><br />[quote]SUC literally ran through every team in the IDC that season and had that trade not happened, they would have walked into the masterbowl with no problems.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Yep. And it&#039;s really sad that a dumb unfounded trade screwed Ralph out of a legit chance to win another Masterbowl. To be perfectly honest I think Ralph had a great map03 team and might have beaten BSK there. EBL was, no offense, too dumb to win that map. You can say the IDC was stale (it has been forever btw) but there is no rationale for that trade aside from you wanting to win, which you did not.<br /><br />[quote]Ask yourself this: did the trade not make for an intriguing IDC Conference Finals as well as an interesting MB match-up (at the time, it seemed to be but results sadly proved otherwise).[/quote] <br /><br />[quote]Honestly, even if SUC won the IDC, they would have been housed by BSK the same way we were.[/quote]<br /><br />If I wasn&#039;t clear before I don&#039;t agree with these statements at all.<br /><br />[quote]If you don&#039;t believe me then look no further than this last season where a MUCH better SUC team made it to the MB against a BSK team that wasn&#039;t as good and still lost 12-4 overall in flag counts.[/quote]<br /><br />This isn&#039;t analogous at all. With the exception of personnel (the captains and Rottking) nothing was the same; completely different maps, totally different roster dynamics and no real comparative strategies. Also, BSK was much stronger defensively with Dev/Rott than they were with Saber/Stall.<br /><br />[quote]It also gave Goatface the #1 overall pick that was so desired by a lot of people last season given the depth of the draft. It worked out for the best as Goat got a much better overall team with it. [/quote]<br /><br />This isn&#039;t at all what you posted on the forums when it happened, and actually my personal opinion is that Goat did get a better team, but not because of his #1 overall pick. He got it by trading that, which he could have done with picks 2-4 anyways.<br /><br />[size=1]For Reference:<br />[quote author=Hatred link=topic=347.msg3053#msg3053 date=1292561291]<br />Yeah contrary to what you all may think, I&#039;m pretty sure Goat is the one who initiated this trade. He was shopping around his first 2 picks to other captains because he didn&#039;t want to have a horrible pick for his 3rd. Granted, Dr_Noob wasn&#039;t bad but apparently there are reasons to as why he would be a shaky investment. Regardless, although I don&#039;t agree with the trade on the grounds that I don&#039;t believe it improved his team, I will say that he did what he thought was best for his team.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />And after saying all that I will add that I don&#039;t blame Hatred for wanting to be on a competitive team. It sucks when you lose every match week in and week out. This is one of the reasons that the franchise era tried to have the best players in IDL captain teams, and why 8 teams seemed most reasonable at that time. It&#039;s also the reason that when I play I try to get on competitive teams. I like to win. The reason I&#039;m chiming in so forcefully about this is because I don&#039;t think anyone should give rationale to trades where a first round player gets traded for an IDL free agent. I do think that something should be done so IDL doesn&#039;t have any winless teams (or even close to that). But this is one of the trades that really blemishes trading and should be looked at as an anomoly instead of justified as some balancing for the league or an old player&#039;s last hurrah. It was bad, it hurt the league and should be avoided, and possibly even punished in the future.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4252, 455, 16, 1309859848, 130, 4252, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.242', 1, 1309860202, 'nostar', 'Okay there seems to be some mix up about what a trade is. Is a trade one transaction. Interestingly enough the word transaction isn&#039;t even used in the rules. So what is a trade exactly?<br /><br />If you believe a trade is between two teams, then great! If you believe a trade can only involved two players, great! If you believe that a trade is a fucking dinosaur with oreo scales....GREAT! It turns out a trade isn&#039;t defined in the rules. And yes, that sucks.<br /><br />Now there have been times when the IDL encountered a situation that the rules didn&#039;t cover. Last season I brought to the attention of the board that nowhere in the rules did it say home field picks were eliminated from the pool as they are picked. I asked if I could pick a homefield that was already picked and Ralph and Ladna said (I&#039;m paraphrasing) &quot;No, and we&#039;ll change the rules to match. Thank you Nostar.&quot;<br /><br />This is how IDL works. We encounter new things and when there isn&#039;t a pre-determined action to be taken the board and commissioner discuss and make a decision. This is what happened here. Now Ralph is taking issue with the fact that there is no rule for this. Cool. I&#039;ve read the rule page and I looked for a place where it defined what a trade could be. I looked for the word transaction. I looked for any notion that a trade could not be executed from 1 team to 2 other teams. It&#039;s not there. Maybe it was an oversight, certainly the home field situation was an oversight. Do you know what happened. Ralph decided and then added it to the rules. Bones decided, and the board is going to add something to the rules that covers this. Look no one is writing a Human Resources manual. The rules need updating as new cases arise. Bones is the commish, he decided what was fair, and that is what happened. If you don&#039;t like it, I&#039;ll tell you what you told me last season...tough.<br /><br />Just for clarity I will add that I agree this trade involved two &quot;transactions&quot;. I don&#039;t see much of a difference from the trade made the same evening including Mantis/Marax traded for dewww/MadV. Adding a team to the mix doesn&#039;t make it any different in my head. It&#039;s still two players leaving a team and two players joining.<br /><br />So no Ralph it&#039;s not an illegal trade. It&#039;s just something IDL has never seem before. And before you post some backwater unidoom.org rules here I would ask you to abide by the same rules that everybody in IDL sees on the homepage.<br /><br />And finally I would say that I think the rules need to be revamped to reflect the new league, with younger, less dedicated players, more teams, less experienced captains and a shorter season (I think). These rules were written during the franchise era and have had very few updates. One more task the board is failing miserably at. <br /><br />&lt;nostar&gt; dewww, goat, mantis, miek, you all blow so far. Legislate, post or please hand in yr resignations.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6679, 646, 21, 1334762762, 8, 6679, 'Re: SPRING 2012 FREE AGENTS - TRADE HISTORY', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@intldoomleague.org', '108.207.0.195', 1, 0, '', '[b]Chaingun Rangers[/b]<br />Watermelon withdrew; traded to Free Agency for Capodecima (April 18)', 'xx', 1);
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	(2972, 338, 14, 1292113905, 0, 2972, 'Re: Fun stuff this season...', 'Fastidious', '', '76.223.252.107', 1, 0, '', 'I never do NFL Fantasy so I am unsure how they work.&nbsp; I think we should stick to individual stats however not team results in the IDL since then you&#039;d worry more about if people will get drafted to a strong team not their individual performance.&nbsp; I definitely think frags, caps, and returns should be counted in some way.&nbsp; I really like exponents on frag ratio since that will reward d/mid players much more so than runners.&nbsp; Everyone will get a decent amount of frags and returns regardless.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6930, 673, 17, 1338218801, 145, 6930, 'Re: is odamex ready for idl competition?', 'Fluffles', 'petefredericknewton@hotmail.co.uk', '86.178.179.54', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Shpongler link=topic=673.msg6926#msg6926 date=1338200583]<br />[quote author=Ralphis link=topic=673.msg6922#msg6922 date=1338161461]<br />Fluffles was playing with interpolation set to 4 tics (max on the slider). <br />[/quote]<br /><br />so if i play with ping 140-170 so best set is 4 tics ( max on the slider) ? i heard that best setting for high pinger is have lower interpolation but its still somtime lagging. I could more test it but this [url=http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg151/scaled.php?server=151&amp;filename=odaset.png&amp;res=landing]screen[/url] is my setting. Is it good setting for high ping or no ?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I recently went to 0 interp as I realised what it actually did. Since going back it&#039;s been better for getting 1 shot ssg kills and actually knowing where your opponent is properly. I&#039;d keep at 0 unless you are having problems killing your opponent.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8276, 815, 17, 1360367917, 214, 8276, 'LIMITATION??', 'RustInPeace', 'ru5tk1ng@yahoo.com', '70.241.17.250', 1, 0, '', '[quote]but if it will miss because of the number set in place something around 18 years ago then that is bullshit imo and should be fixed or at least an option given to ignore said behavior[/quote]<br />You are asking for a compat flag that switches between vanilla limit and the zdoom 2.1 limit, correct? I don&#039;t think that&#039;s too much of a request and it ultimately depends on the dev team. I think I should mention that everyone is shitting, not on your request, but your reasoning. For example, &#039;SHOULD NOT EXIST&#039; is nullified because the limitation is required for demo compatibility. Personally I believe you are over emphasizing how much this limitation affects games and matches. Would the extension be nice? Probably. Is its implementation dire and needed ASAP? No.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2976, 338, 14, 1292133432, 10, 2976, 'Re: Fun stuff this season...', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'The problem is that those types of attributes can&#039;t actually be put into meaningful data by zdstack (or any program for that matter since they&#039;d have to be peer reviewed) so most of those are probably out.<br /><br />The best way is to go by the numbers I believe.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3203, 365, 14, 1294693710, 10, 3203, 'Re: DEMO INFRACTION LISTING', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'Caboose has no demo for week 1. First infraction.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3753, 410, 14, 1300224086, 30, 3753, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Beast', 'kjolly@uwm.edu', '129.89.125.201', 1, 0, '', 'After all is said and done, TKV made the right decision to say fuck this bullshit no more waiting, and Ralphis made the right decision etc..<br /><br />The whole purpose of this league is to compete on a high level, be fair, and have fun doing it. So deep down inside everyone here wants to face every opponent that comes in their path no doubt about that.<br /><br />However, what I did see mentioned here is the fact that Ralphis is a board member or w/e and he mentioned something about how he is willing to do a trial run and see how long that person lasts etc....<br /><br />I think thats bullshit, here is why. They won&#039;t last, because no one is going to dedicate the time that you or the other board members do to maintain this thing. Truthfully none of you should. I think a better more logical solution would be to open up the board and allow more people to perform some of these functions instead of relying on a few people. <br /><br />As an example, Ladna is a programmer, but I heard it mentioned that he was involved in writing IDL rules or some shit, wtf? Let this man program and work with servers and the website and not be bothered with rules. Let the time he spends dealing with the bureaucracy of the IDL be allocated to talking to server host like myself and niv so that we aren&#039;t limited to one or two server locations for the league. Let a team of people deal with stats instead of all this responsibility falling on one person. <br /><br />I know what your thinking, we can&#039;t just depend on random people to perform these tasks because they wont be done blah blah blah. The truth is you won&#039;t know until you try it. I think what you guys have done with this league is awesome. Its probably one of the best gaming leagues out there for competitive online gaming. However no one here is getting paid and I think more people should/could be involved in day to day operations. <br /><br />Also, another thing worth mentioning is a coversation I had with cha0tix the other day about the IDL and its direct relation with the clan scene on zdaemon. I plan to write a blog about it but I want to put out some of the issues that were brought up in that regards to get more possible feedback before complteting the initial blog. <br />&nbsp; <br />So here it is , I am a long time advocate of shit talking on the forums and for a long time I thought gay admins&nbsp; was the main reason for the decline of the clan scene here in the states. To add to that, the fact that no one wants to be embarrassed by losing. Now I think that the IDL is also a factor and here is why. When the IDL first started a lot of clans were developing and some friends were made via the IDL. As time went on some people started:<br /><br />1. aligning themselves with others and forming a bond, not a clan bond but a I&#039;m better then you are bond<br />2. some people who played against clan mates or with them ended up parting ways one way or another<br />3. IDL seemed to offer an area where you could get on a team with random people and not be faced with the defeat of your clan but just the defeat of your IDL team<br /><br />One of the things I want to do in addition to wanting to contribute to the IDL is to&nbsp; galvanize the competitive clan scene on zdaemon. Any thoughts/opinions are welcome.<br /><br />oh yeah and nostar you hair is not awesome...I saw you sneak that bullshit in.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3202, 367, 14, 1294692515, 10, 3202, 'NEW RULE: Waiver Wire', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'The waiver wire rule has actually been passed for a few weeks but was not posted officially until today. Fortunately, it doesn&#039;t affect any league actions until after the trade deadline on February 2nd, so all captains should have time to review and evaluate this new rule change.<br /><br />We believe that this rule will promote continued player movement past the trade deadline while taking preventative measures against top teams attempting to stack rosters going into the playoffs. To read the official rule, please refer [url=http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?topic=366]to this post[/url]. <br /><br />This thread is for questions related to and/or discussion of the new rule.', 'exclamation', 1);
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	(3346, 348, 14, 1296711465, 10, 3346, 'Re: W2011 Free Agents - Trade History - Waiver Wire', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', '[b]Super Chargers[/b]<br />Traded Reckless to the Sexual Panthers in exchange for Dew (Week 5)<br /><br />[b]Sexual Panthers[/b]<br />Traded Dew to the Super Chargers in exchange for Reckless (Week 5)', 'xx', 1);
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	(2978, 339, 14, 1292192234, 35, 2978, 'Re: Winter 2011 Draft Discussion', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.240.85.23', 1, 0, '', 'That&#039;s a good date, i&#039;m sure i&#039;ll be available', 'xx', 1);
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	(2979, 339, 14, 1292192487, 19, 2979, 'Re: Winter 2011 Draft Discussion', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.7.88', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;m gonna be on the panel, provided my grandmother does not die on that date. She has cancer. We plan to stuff her afterwards. That will take some time.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3592, 392, 14, 1298952255, 216, 3592, 'Re: Week 8 (Feb 21 - Feb 28) : THIRTY417 (Map17) - Discussion and Results', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '65.92.125.172', 1, 0, '', 'GG&#039;s KGB! <br />[img]http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4333/week8round1.png[/img]<br />[img]http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/8935/week8round2.png[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2981, 338, 14, 1292203141, 69, 2981, 'Re: Fun stuff this season...', 'Goatface', 'roger.banango@gmail.com', '129.101.16.254', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;d participate in a suicide league but a fantasy league has too many x-factors for me.&nbsp; For instance a team that plays a lot of three round games will have higher total stats, so averages would make more sense.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4374, 473, 18, 1311855908, 0, 4374, 'Re: Week 8 (Jul 25 - Aug 1) : ZDCTF18: The Old Castle - Discussion and Results', 'capodecima', '', '88.103.101.55', 1, 0, '', 'Doom Raiders vs. Techno Vikings (CONF)<br />TKV 2-0<br /><br />Sexual Panthers vs. Flag Steelers (CONF)&nbsp; <br />FLS 2-1<br /> <br />Demonic Colts vs. Electric Bills (CONF) <br />DMC 2-1<br />&nbsp; <br />Berserker Packers vs. Fnordy Niners (CONF)<br />BSK 2-0<br /><br />Spread Eagles vs. Brokeback Cowboys (CONF)<br />BBC 2-0<br /><br />Super Chargers vs. Killing Browns (CONF)<br />1-1-1<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(8561, 849, 1, 1361860426, 157, 8561, 'Re: Garbage thread', 'Legion_', 'skulltaglegion@hotmail.com', '173.59.166.160', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://i.imgur.com/IvyCn.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(2980, 339, 14, 1292200522, 2, 2982, 'Re: Winter 2011 Draft Discussion', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.48.78', 1, 1292210862, 'mikefails', 'I want to start off by saying I didn&#039;t steal ladna&#039;s format.&nbsp; Screw that jerk, he smells like rotten cabbages.&nbsp; <br /><br />Also, if you&#039;ve been reading through this thread and you haven&#039;t seen your name, don&#039;t worry yet.&nbsp; We&#039;re currently discussing some ideas that would allow more players to play during the season.&nbsp; Do not lose hope yet :)<br /><br />[b][size=5]DMR - Goatface[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 1[/size][/b]<br /><br />Goatface has to pick a winner right off the bat here, if he doesn&#039;t he will be struggling all season.&nbsp; As the season&#039;s first pick, he has the perfect opportunity here!&nbsp; Being relatively flexible and a little less skilled than some of the captains, I think he will pick a well rounded player to try to play against the weaknesses of the 24th/25th picks.<br /><br />Depending on how Goat sees himself playing this season, I figure he will take either, Whiteboy567, Chaindude, or Nostar.&nbsp; I see Whiteboy as his primary choice, due to his fragging abilities and overwhelming defense.&nbsp; Chaindude is more capable as a runner if Goat is comfortable defending with his ping, chances are if he learned anything from last season he will try to hang around middle or run.<br /><br />Nostar on the other hand could be a good pick, but I just don&#039;t know if his style will mesh will with Goat&#039;s.&nbsp; He is a very competent defender but is a little bit less flexible than Chaindude and a slightly less fraggy than Whiteboy, leading me to believe he would not be the ideal pick for the Doom Raiders.&nbsp; He is very effective at stopping Ralphis though and would probably relish the opportunity to walk all over the commissioners fat bald head =)<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 24 and Pick 25[/size][/b]<br /><br />Goatface really needs to assess these picks as a group and pick specialized players to swap in and out of the season.&nbsp; He needs players that can competently play a position and then modify his team around their style in order to remain successful.&nbsp; At such extreme picks, he won&#039;t likely find strong enough talent to play a static season like more moderate teams generally do.<br /><br />Acolyte, Aerial, Higgs, and Mandolore are all relatively intelligent, focused players that will likely be around for Goat to pick up.&nbsp; A combination of say, Aerial and Mandolore would allow each map to be approached with a unique lineup to maximize the effectiveness of the team, besides picking up 2 extremely active, dedicated players.<br /><br />[b][size=5]KGB - Tai[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 2[/size][/b]<br /><br />Come on, we all know what Tai is gonna do right?&nbsp; Bloodstrike is going as the second pick in IDL to be a Killing Brown, no questions asked.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 23[/size][/b]<br /><br />Just like Goatface, Tai is looking at relatively weaker talent at this point of the draft.&nbsp; He should probably use a similar strategy and try to pick up two active, role players to swap in and out all season long per specific map strengths and weaknesses.&nbsp; He is pretty in touch with the skulltag crowd, look for him to pick up maybe Metalhead, X-Ray, or Dr_noob if they are still around.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 26[/size][/b]<br /><br />This pick is pretty bad too, Tai needs to make sure to get at least one extremely active player to use on his team, someone like Mandolore or Dew could really round out the team with an active player and help at least make sure KGB is playing a 3v3 each week.<br /><br />[b][size=5]SPE - Mantis-X[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 3[/size][/b]<br /><br />I am thinking Mantis-X is going to stun everybody with an oddball pick this season.&nbsp; Either Killinblair or Nostar is going to the Spread Eagles and for good reason.&nbsp; Both players play a very consistent, powerful defense (especially since Blair changed ISP&#039;s).&nbsp; Mantis-X has always been a more defensive player but prefers to run, either of these picks will allow him that opportunity.&nbsp; If somehow Whiteboy slips this far, he could be the next Spread Eagle as well, but I am banking on Killingblair.&nbsp; Will Blair doom the Spread Eagles once more as he returns to envenomate the team with white power?&nbsp; Only time will tell.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 22[/size][/b]<br /><br />This is still a pretty low pick, but chances of picking up a relatively decent player still seems possible.&nbsp; Assuming Mantis-X gets a defensive superstar in the first round, he will probably be looking to pick up a decent fragger/support runner in the second.&nbsp; A player like Shakal or Beast could prove to be an able 3rd on this team, filling a necessary gap in the middle with a decent shot.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 27[/size][/b]<br /><br />At pick 27, the pool is going to be still pretty decent, a good support player like Dosu or Dewww would nicely round out this team.&nbsp; Besides this, Dewww has won in the past, using his wine enhanced team glue powers to propel his hateful team into the playoffs and beyond!&nbsp; Dosu is a well known mexican superstar and will be looking for a chance to prove himself in his return to IDL.<br /><br />[b][size=5]FLS - Legion[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 4[/size][/b]<br /><br />Legion is going to be playing a pretty interesting game this season.&nbsp; He will want to run but in doing so he might be leaving a hole in his teams defense with the pick he has.&nbsp; Rottking or Killingblair (if he is still around) would serve as a pretty good effort to lock down flag defense, leaving the middle open for the second round pick.&nbsp; If Legion is planning on defending this season, myself, DevastatioN, or possibly even Lordbritish could find themselves playing dedicated offense while Legion leaks flags all day long =)<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 21[/size][/b]<br /><br />The 21st pick is almost to the point where the most promising players are still available.&nbsp; Drafting Metalhead or X-Ray might help fulfill a defensive void I see this team developing.&nbsp; Unless Legion drafts Blair, he will likely need to pickup a strong defensive player to keep flags in his base long enough to score.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 28[/size][/b]<br /><br />Legion will hopefully pick up a relatively established player to even out his interesting ideas.&nbsp; Nazz has a pretty excellent shot and could serve as a fragger in a pinch.&nbsp; Souler also has a pretty decent shot and can support defense capably.&nbsp; This pick should compliment the strengths of Legion himself.<br /><br />[b][size=5]SXP - Humanbones[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 5[/size][/b]<br /><br />Woah Humanbones is back!&nbsp; Just in time too, because Midian will likely still be around.&nbsp; Provided myself and Nostar are already gone, I can&#039;t really see Bones picking any other player from the pool.&nbsp; Possibly Devastation if Bones is willing to put up with him ;)<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 20[/size][/b]<br /><br />The Panthers second pick will be an entirely different story.&nbsp; Between bones and mid, he basically just needs to pick someone who doesn&#039;t suck major butt, (quiksilver) and they are guaranteed a playoff berth.&nbsp; Activity and maybe running ability will play into this, Dewww would be an excellent fit with his grindy running and mid&#039;s excellent mid support.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 29[/size][/b]<br /><br />I think the Panthers will be taking a 4th player almost purely as a growth perspective.&nbsp; The reason I say this is there are quite a few competent players who simply need some guidance to quickly emerge as a more effective player.&nbsp; MassVC and Higgs fit the bill perfectly, two players who are pretty intelligent and have pretty good raw ability.&nbsp; A proven captain like bones could quickly and easily turn either of these guys into a good 3rd or decent 2nd.<br /><br />[b][size=5]DCL - Caboose[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 6[/size][/b]<br /><br />I think Caboose will have a pretty easy pick to make at 6th pick.&nbsp; Chaindude is likely still going to be floating around after his patented ChainKist3 statement about being unable to play the other day, scaring off some of the earlier captains with his tomfoolery.&nbsp; Caboose will take advantage and pick up one of the better players floating around in the Winter 2011 season.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 19[/size][/b]<br /><br />I know Caboose is pretty big on R picks, and since he will likely want to run himself, I can only see him taking X-Ray to defend the base while hes off scoring flags.&nbsp; Since they have played together frequently, this will probably be a pretty easy and safe move, while allowing both to play as a team in a relatively short amount of time.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 30[/size][/b]<br /><br />Hard to say at this point, depends on who is still floating around at pick 30.&nbsp; Caboose will likely be choosing between mexicans, Aerial, and fresh faces.&nbsp; MassVC is probably about as good or better than Aerial is currently, so he could manage to end up on the Demonic Colts assuming Tai or some earlier captain has already picked up Aerial as a 4th.<br /><br />[b][size=5]KNF - Strangle[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 7[/size][/b]<br /><br />Strangle is going to be in a pretty rough position with this pick.&nbsp; Probably as one of the least skilled captains coming into the season, he is going to really have to make smart moves to steer clear of SNaX territory.&nbsp; I am planning on him taking Lordbritish, partially because LB is pretty good and partially because I think he will enjoy making him squirm.&nbsp; However, LB is likely what Strangle needs to fill his offensive void, with a relatively early pick in the second round he can scoop up a support player easily.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 18[/size][/b]<br /><br />The Niners will have a lot of flexibility here and they need to make the most of it.&nbsp; Strangle needs to walk away from pick 18 with an IDL team, or he will be marking down loss after loss all season long.&nbsp; I am relatively sure he will be drafting RustInPeace, for fear of beatings.&nbsp; Besides that reason, Rust is pretty good and would make this team a pretty interesting combination, the ultimate test of LB&#039;s willpower would be being stuck on a team with Strangle&#039;s entire family.&nbsp; Chances are he quits before the first practice :)<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 31[/size][/b]<br /><br />If this pick really has much impact on the Niners, they are probably looking at a very bleak season.&nbsp; With a weaker captain and Lordbitch, if they have to rely on the fourth at all they are probably long past dead and rotten.&nbsp; Besides that, I see them picking on of the many mexicans infesting the IDL this season.&nbsp; Reckless and Nazz are exceptionally good shots, either could be a great addition to this team.<br /><br />[b][size=5]TKV - Russiandumbass[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 8[/size][/b]<br /><br />Rus will pick me.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 17[/size][/b]<br /><br />After Rus picks me, he will pick Shaq.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 32[/size][/b]<br /><br />After Rus picks me and Shaq, BEARDNA will appear, then Rus will pick him.<br /><br />[b][size=5]SUC - Ralphis[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 9[/size][/b]<br /><br />Ralphis always fondly remembers the season he almost took down SUC but then lost embarassingly and ended up assuming their team later.&nbsp; This season was the product of a lot of hard work, especially hard work coming from a certain Sumerian deity.&nbsp; Gilgamesh will join forces with Ralphis again and help lead the Superchargers to the playoffs!<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 16[/size][/b]<br /><br />The Superchargers will be pretty flexible at this point, so it will just be an assessment of who is left and who can pay the bills.&nbsp; If Xenaero or Rottking are floating around at this point, the fabled Useless Ducks can form again to tank miserably in the playoffs.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 33[/size][/b]<br /><br />There will be very little talent left at this point in the draft, anybody who is dedicated and has some shred of brains or skill will likely get picked up for grooming.&nbsp; Roscoe, Ourhero (might be worth another swing), Higgs, or ThatsJustPrime could all prove to be valuable assets in the playoffs and in team shortages.<br /><br />[b][size=5]BBC - Italianstallion[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 10[/size][/b]<br /><br />The Brokeback Cowboys are gonna likely blow this season, but with a few good moves Stallion could see them into a tying record.&nbsp; The best names will all be gone by 10th pick, but Saber should still be hanging around and I can see him picking up his old Masterbowl teammate in the hopes to rekindle what happened last season.&nbsp; That won&#039;t happen of course, flags don&#039;t score themselves!<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 15[/size][/b]<br /><br />Assuming Sabertooth lands on the Cowboys again, most of the good running talent will have evaporated and Stallion will be looking to just pick up somebody to shoot dudes while Sabertooth runs.&nbsp; Rottking can do this pretty well, plus he loves rainbows and gay cowboys, so he seems like he was made for this team.&nbsp; <br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 34[/size][/b]<br /><br />Why not, I already have them getting 3 ffa players, the Cowboys will pick up Nazz and call it a night.&nbsp; He is likely the best mexican in this IDL, maybe barring Dosu.&nbsp; This team will definitely be an embarassment and will never hold a candle to the real BBC!<br /><br />[b][size=5]EBL - Hatred[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 11[/size][/b]<br /><br />Hatred is going to definitely pick up DevastatioN if he is still around.&nbsp; As one of the most talented duelers in North America, DevastatioN is not lacking in raw ability.&nbsp; He still needs more exposure to CTF to really shine but he has progressed with leaps and bounds even from KGB&#039;s losing season.&nbsp; Under Hatred&#039;s iron fist (if dev doesn&#039;t listen hatred will just beat him at Lanada again) DevastatioN will have no choice but to score like crazy.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 14[/size][/b]<br /><br />I figure going on the Bills theme of strong duelers, Hatred will pick up Metalhead next and attempt to frag all the way to the Masterbowl.&nbsp; With Metalhead helping to confine teams while DevastatioN runs, the Bills could see a lot of weaker teams simply fall apart in front of their overwhelming frag ratios.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 35[/size][/b]<br /><br />Finally, Souler will complement the team and finish the assembly of North America duelers.&nbsp; The Bills will go to the Masterbowl and embarass all opposition within minutes.<br /><br />[b][size=5]BSK - Jenova[/size][/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Picks 12 and 13[/size][/b]<br /><br />Jenny is going to be in a pretty pickle as well this season.&nbsp; With 12th and 13th picks, he has to draft a team and just try to go from there.&nbsp; Most of the good, reliable players will be gone, so he will probably end up picking up a dynamic duo like Joshsmith and Collision, then just tanking it til next season and a better draft pick.<br /><br />[b][size=4]Pick 36[/size][/b]<br /><br />The final draft of the season, who could it be?&nbsp; BSK might get lucky and get a decent 4th for cheap at 36th, who knows!<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />Wow that was long.&nbsp; I wonder if anybody will bother to read it ;)&nbsp; Overall, here&#039;s how I think teams will (not) turn out:<br /><br />[b][size=3]Doom Raiders[/size][/b]<br />Goatface, Whiteboy567, Acolyte, Mandolore<br /><br />[b][size=3]Killing Browns[/size][/b]<br />Tai, Bloodstrike, Dosu, Dr_noob<br /><br />[b][size=3]Spread Eagles[/size][/b]<br />Mantis-X, Killingblair, Madv, Roscoe<br /><br />[b][size=3]Flag Steelers[/size][/b]<br />Legion, Nostar, Turska, Aerial<br /><br />[b][size=3]Sexual Panthers[/size][/b]<br />HumanBones, Midian, Xenaero, HIGGS<br /><br />[b][size=3]Demonic Colts[/size][/b]<br />Caboose, Chaindude,X-Ray, MassVC<br /><br />[b][size=3]Fnordy Niners[/size][/b]<br />Strangle, Lordbritish, RustInPeace, Reckless<br /><br />[b][size=3]Techno Vikings[/size][/b]<br />Russiandumbass, miek, Shakal, Ladnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa<br /><br />[b][size=3]Super Chargers[/size][/b]<br />Ralphis, Gilgamesh, Ourhero, Wazzup<br /><br />[b][size=3]Brokeback Cowboys[/size][/b]<br />Italianstallion, Sabertooth, RottKing, Nazz<br /><br />[b][size=3]Electric Bills[/size][/b]<br />Hatred, DevastatioN, Metalhead, Souler<br /><br />[b][size=3]Berserker Packers[/size][/b]<br />Jenova, Joshsmith, Collision, ThatsJustPrime<br /><br />Obviously this doesn&#039;t mean anything because nobody knows how anything will turn out ever so screw you all, also ladna will be on my team because we are best buds with rus and shak. we need to go back to 8 teams because this takes too long', 'xx', 1);
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	(3697, 402, 14, 1299645894, 19, 3697, 'Re: A general response to server lag', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.249.196', 1, 0, '', 'Well this seems like a good place to figure out connectivity issues.<br /><br />[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ykcng.png[/img]<br /><br />Who can tell me what this actually means? I don&#039;t know exactly what the yellow dots correspond to, but simply idling in empty servers between fdc and chicago seem to show stark differences. I did a tracert between the two IPs and I got no discernible differences.<br /><br />I would also put up a comparison with full servers but rarely do people play on fdc so I don&#039;t have any screenshots of typical server play on that. On chicago servers with players the dots get far more erratic.<br /><br />Are they packet rates? All I did was leave it running for a bit on one server before quitting and right after that loading up the other. I went back too to make sure I wasn&#039;t simply spiking. Needless to say I could use a little explaining on what this graph actually is trying to tell me.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4128, 442, 16, 1306726205, 163, 4128, 'Re: A Post About Trading That You Should Read', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.50.8.53', 1, 0, '', 'I think the point you missed, Nostar, is that I wasn&#039;t saying the trade was justified and/or a fair trade. The only thing I was really trying to point out were the bright spots of the trade and why I felt compelled to push for it. We&#039;d probably spend the next 20 pages of this thread disagreeing forever over our opinions on the &quot;balance&quot; it gave so I really see no point in continuing in that debate. Just remember that it made no difference to DMR&#039;s season but improved the season of another failing team, I think it&#039;s safe to say it was better to have 2 good teams going into the play-offs than one. That&#039;s all I&#039;m saying you dumb hoosier! Chill!', 'xx', 1);
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	(2983, 340, 14, 1292218832, 2, 2983, 'Potential Panelists', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.48.78', 1, 1292218957, 'mikefails', 'Are you interested in being an IDL draft panelist?<br /><br />You get a chance to speak live in front of the entire league with Ralphis and other affiliated members of the IDL about current issues and the draft itself!&nbsp; The panel is part of a pre-draft show where Ralphis asks the members critical questions about the future of the league and about the upcoming season.&nbsp; Only the good-looking, tall, confident players need apply.&nbsp; Microphone ownership is a [b]MUST[/b].&nbsp; If you are interested feel free to leave a comment below or get in touch with myself, Ralphis, or Goatface. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(3751, 410, 14, 1300218614, 15, 3751, 'Re: Free wins....', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '68.171.231.80', 1, 1300219532, 'ItalianStallion', 'Star is just jelly that I replaced him as the top defender of the league. Your tears of jealousy are so sweetstar.&nbsp; &nbsp; Ladna, understandable.&nbsp; This thread wasn&#039;t really directed at those who really put in the effort to keep this league going.&nbsp; Just nostar, I was just hoping he would lose again this post-season and run away from the league for another couple of months. It looks like I&#039;m going to have to wait another week for that to happen. :(<br /><br />[EDIT]<br /><br />Also, who said anything about quitting IDL? I simply said that I won&#039;t be captaining next season...&nbsp; ', 'xx', 1);
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	(2982, 338, 14, 1292209184, 0, 2982, 'Re: Fun stuff this season...', 'Fastidious', '', '76.222.61.14', 1, 0, '', 'Yeah per round match average would be best.&nbsp; I just put some numbers up to show how to valuable people could be, etc.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2984, 341, 14, 1292219411, 69, 2984, 'Reserve League', 'Goatface', 'roger.banango@gmail.com', '129.101.16.254', 1, 0, '', 'With the IDL having more signups than it ever has this season, we&#039;ll have 30 or so people getting undrafted.&nbsp; Is there interest in a reserve league?<br /><br />A reserve league would (probably) consist of 4 or 6 teams, made up of players in free agency, and would provide two main functions:<br />1.&nbsp; Give the free agents some competitive games<br />2.&nbsp; Help IDL captains find players they want to trade for either through watching the games or simply by knowing who is still around<br /><br />We tried this before in season 5 (the IDDL) and it was kind of a disaster, but it did help a few players get noticed.&nbsp; With more advanced notice/planning and more signups we can do a much better job.<br /><br />Thoughts?', 'xx', 1);
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	(3204, 365, 14, 1294695080, 10, 3204, 'Re: DEMO INFRACTION LISTING', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'Whiteboy has no demo for week 1. First infraction.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2989, 341, 14, 1292220380, 55, 2989, 'Re: Reserve League', 'ReXn0r', 'yannik_marcos@hotmail.com', '189.160.173.62', 1, 0, '', 'what we could do is something like European championship, the teams that don&#039;t make it to the playoffs in IDL go to the IDDL along with the teams that are already in, in the European Champions League, teams that don&#039;t make it to the playoffs, get a ticket to the europa league, and have a chance to win the europa league title...we could do something like that, maybe the teams that didn&#039;t make the idl playoffs get a shot to another title, and the people who&#039;re already in the iddl, get a boost by playing new teams who come from the IDL', 'xx', 1);
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	(3347, 380, 1, 1296723137, 163, 3347, 'Odamex - try it, you''ll like it!', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.34.210.163', 1, 0, '', 'After some discussion with The Ralph, I finally gave Odamex another shot after a horrible experience some time ago. I have to say, after some adjustments made in-game with mouse/resolution settings, I was very impressed with it&#039;s gameplay. I seriously have not felt an SSG that consistent since playing the original .exe back in 2007 with Dev at AtLANtica. While it&#039;s certainly in need of some modern game-play updates, I can say once those are implemented I would definitely value this as a stronger port for competitive gameplay than the rest of the current ports. And as I stated, these are simply flags/gamemode fixes that are in the works, so we&#039;ll simply label these as &quot;cosmetic&quot; fixes more than foundational support. I urge everyone to give it an opportunity and if you&#039;re a true fan of competitive DooM, you&#039;ll see how great the potential is for this port. So I&#039;ll simply leave it at that. Feel free to express your thoughts here after trying it!<br /> ', 'xx', 1);
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	(3752, 410, 14, 1300223700, 16, 3752, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '149.152.191.3', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=nostar link=topic=410.msg3748#msg3748 date=1300214807]<br />1.) Tai read this part of the thread please. THIS is what trolling is. Not everything anyone says is meant to troll. THIS is the definition of a troll. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />I did tell Stall that he shouldn&#039;t have made this topic and I asked that he remove it if he didn&#039;t, so please don&#039;t tell me to read what I&#039;ve already read. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(3593, 394, 1, 1298958920, 157, 3593, 'Re: An IDL 8v8 mappack', 'Legion_', 'theomegaantin00b@gmail.com', '71.116.0.233', 1, 0, '', 'strangle doesn&#039;t understand you either', 'xx', 1);
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	(4129, 442, 16, 1306735288, 10, 4129, 'Re: A Post About Trading That You Should Read', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '98.225.144.111', 1, 0, '', 'That trade sucked ass and was the worst in IDL history', 'xx', 1);
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	(4253, 455, 16, 1309880613, 16, 4253, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '99.37.17.175', 1, 0, '', 'I agree with Ralphis, here. <br /><br />If the rules indeed state that a team can only make one trade per week, then EBL did make two trades; one to SPE, and one to BSK. Simply saying that EBL did them at the exact same time is immaterial. We call that a loophole, and a pathetic one at that, for all you uneducated Tweedledees and Tweedledums. That does not make it legal, and all I&#039;ve gotten from this is that Bones is blinder than 3000 blind mice. <br /><br />So here&#039;s my suggestion: You either implement a new rule that lets captains make two trades in the final week of trading, which is what this would fall under, and quite honestly would not be a bad idea to me, or you tell Hatred to rescind one trade. <br /><br />And thus ends my two cents. Happy fragging, bitches.&nbsp; :)<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(5808, 571, 18, 1325484284, 8, 5808, 'IDL Winter 2012 Has Officially Begun!', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@intldoomleague.org', '108.7.78.21', 1, 0, '', 'Today is the first official day of the IDL Winter 2012 Season! This is a reminder to all Captains that your teams schedule for this week needs to be sent to me by Tuesday @ 11:59:59 PM. Any team that does not submit their availability to me by that time will be penalized. <br /><br />Be sure to visit the [url=http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?topic=567.0]Week 1[/url] discussion and results page. I&#039;d also suggest that all players take some time to read the [url=http://www.intldoomleague.org/info/rules]Rules[/url] page as there have been several changes. Looking forward to a fun season! ', 'xx', 1);
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	(8178, 798, 3, 1359038218, 6065, 8178, 'Re: Hello', 'Chr0nique', 'buli67fener@live.fr', '109.12.248.99', 1, 0, '', 'Not with a real skill though!<br />I play this game 24/24 7/7, all I learn is crying more and more..', 'xx', 1);
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	(8800, 858, 29, 1364282259, 2185, 8800, 'Re: New Event', 'Dragon', 'morgan.larsson@live.se', '193.227.126.18', 1, 0, '', 'Always cool trying new things. Sign me up.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2990, 341, 14, 1292220778, 49, 2990, 'Re: Reserve League', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '216.164.140.107', 1, 0, '', 'Rex does have a good idea, I&#039;d love to see a reserve league team beat an IDL team in the end-season tournament. Not only would it be a morale boost for the reserve team moving up the ladder, it would get those players noticed as well going into the new season.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2991, 341, 14, 1292220989, 69, 2991, 'Re: Reserve League', 'Goatface', 'roger.banango@gmail.com', '129.101.16.254', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Killingblair link=topic=341.msg2985#msg2985 date=1292219883]<br />The point has to get across that this minor league is still a competitive league, not just something like &quot;oh you didn&#039;t make it, play in a crappy league to feel better.&quot; It still should be hyper-competitive, and [b]tha rules[/b] should still be enforced in terms attendance, etc. Players are not only playing for a title, they are playing for a chance to be on a true major league IDL team.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Last time it was an after-draft second thought with just me running it.&nbsp; After doing all the pre-season work myself in what little time I had I got traded to an IDL team in week 2 and did my best but at times I just didn&#039;t care.&nbsp; This time around we have a lot better planning and it&#039;s not just me so we can do a better job enforcing these rules and getting serious competition going.<br /><br />The point being, I&#039;m awesome and don&#039;t get enough credit.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6931, 673, 17, 1338219292, 2174, 6931, 'Re: is odamex ready for idl competition?', 'Decay`', 'systemdecay@hotmail.ca', '99.254.95.70', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Tai link=topic=673.msg6929#msg6929 date=1338216098]<br /><br />Hey we had priv ctf last night! Where you been?!&nbsp; :P<br />[/quote]I was there! For a few games anyway. But I mean tons of priv as in on a regular basis, during both day and night.<br />[quote author=RecKle$$_ link=topic=673.msg6927#msg6927 date=1338212495]<br />[quote author=Decay` link=topic=673.msg6925#msg6925 date=1338172012]<br /> grow on people, and it just is a matter of getting used to it, learning how to play the port, and learning to adjust. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />Hard when the port is 90% of the day empty<br />[/quote]So, convince some of your zdmexibuddies to try out odamex, maybe you&#039;ll bring some population over.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3348, 380, 1, 1296742768, 2, 3348, 'Re: Odamex - try it, you''ll like it!', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.41.134', 1, 0, '', 'I hate odamex and I hate you!', 'xx', 1);
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	(2994, 340, 14, 1292223662, 69, 2994, 'Re: Potential Panelists', 'Goatface', 'roger.banango@gmail.com', '129.101.16.254', 1, 0, '', '&quot;Pardon my arrogance&quot; should be Tai&#039;s signature.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2993, 340, 14, 1292223387, 16, 2994, 'Re: Potential Panelists', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '149.152.191.3', 1, 1292223767, 'Tai', 'I&#039;d love to, and pardon my arrogance as I say I&#039;d probably have a good chance of being chosen, but I don&#039;t have a working mic and getting one before Wednesday is basically outta the question. <br /><br />Oh well. : (', 'xx', 1);
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	(3888, 419, 1, 1301599140, 147, 3890, 'IDL style mapping contest?', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '141.110.189.29', 1, 1301626665, 'LordBritish', 'Whilst taking a dump at school today, I reflected upon the popular &quot;32-in-24&quot; map series held at doomworld or some dumb place like that.&nbsp; And I began to think about how those 32-in-24 projects contain a decent chunk of our idl maps.&nbsp; Then I wiped my ass.<br /><br />Long story short, I wanna do a similar project with the idl players.&nbsp; A lot of us map, have mapped in the past, or have considered mapping before, and I think if we can band together to make this, some nice maps could sprout up, and more importantly, some good old fashioned fun can be had.&nbsp; Perhaps once the wad is completed and compiled, we can host it on a priv server and play through all the maps a few times.&nbsp; I think that sounds like a swell idea, don&#039;t you?<br /><br />Now, depending on public interest, I&#039;m totally down for spearheading and organizing this project.&nbsp; I&#039;m definitely open for a few suggestions on certain things, such as:<br /><br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Number of maps in the pack (this will obviously depend on the number of interested parties, but whether people should make 2 maps if we don&#039;t have a lot of people, etc).[/li]<br /><br />[li]Time allotted for the entire project (a day, 2 days, a week, etc).&nbsp; I will say that I wouldn&#039;t like it to be much longer than a week, so that interest doesn&#039;t dwindle.[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />At any rate, this is far from a signup thread, but post thoughts, suggestions, and anything else that applies.&nbsp; gogogoo<br /><br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(4254, 455, 16, 1309881002, 147, 4254, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.35.212', 1, 0, '', 'how about a complete overhaul of trade rules?&nbsp; we&#039;ve gone from 3 trades in the ENTIRE SEASON in Winter 2010, to only 2 teams that haven&#039;t traded this season.&nbsp; i never really understood why it was limited to 3 trades/season and one per week anyway.&nbsp; abolish those rules if you ask me.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4614, 494, 17, 1313896850, 8, 4614, 'Re: Booting out unwanted maps.', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '98.210.138.202', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;ve played some pretty fun 3v3 Map16 games. I know it was used in the regular season a while back and it turned out to be a decent choice, at some point I will dig up my demo from that game and see if my memories are correct. Otherwise, the consensus seems to be that it isn&#039;t fun. <br /><br />32 is.. lol. When it was used during the regular season, I sat out and let Mike/Dope destroy Ladna/Gax. I have never once had one enjoyable or mentally stimulating game on that map, so GET OUT OF THE WAD PLEASE.<br /><br />30 was annoying the first time I played it, but for that MB game it was probably the best choice. Both of our teams were so insanely fraggy that we needed a map like that. It also doesn&#039;t seem to create that many 5-0 games, which I see as a good thing. Like Rust, I value the amount of teamwork it takes to score on a map, and not just whether or not a game will end 5-4. <br /><br />Map25 was fun the last time I remember playing it.. which I think was Season 3. I actually had it in the schedule early on this season, because I remember it being fun 3v3.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4534, 483, 16, 1312932660, 17, 4536, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '69.245.157.115', 1, 1313026056, 'Mionic_D', 'http://www.speedyshare.com/files/29794637/GranBeta0809.wad<br /><br />Try this one out.&nbsp; There was an invalid texture in the last beta, which may have crashed it.<br /><br />Will look into the problems on Mayhem<br /><br />Updated initial posts with latest betas, will do so accordingly from here out', 'xx', 1);
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	(8640, 855, 17, 1362972521, 2084, 8640, 'Re: This is why...', 'EmZee712', 'Aishiteru712@yahoo.com', '76.107.137.235', 1, 0, '', 'Not gonna go into detail like this butthurt dicklord Rust over here, but all I have to say is that you kids need to get real lives. And I mean REAL lives. Not just pretend IDL Doom lives where you&#039;re about to bust a vein over some petty crap like this.<br /><br />I&#039;m seriously sick of all you people. You guys are just really negative, overemotional, vengeful, accusative fucking assholes. And I just don&#039;t wanna deal with this crap anymore. I gave you my reasons for WHY I didn&#039;t come on time, I have a LOT going on in my DELICATE situation in my life.... and this is all I get. A lack of understanding.<br /><br /><br />Cool. Awesome. Well. Calling it quits. Been nice knowing you all!', 'xx', 1);
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	(2997, 341, 14, 1292249256, 0, 2997, 'Re: Reserve League', 'Propane', '', '78.92.73.12', 1, 0, '', 'If I don&#039;t get drafted, I&#039;d love to play in such a league, and also not letting down IDL teams with my [s]unfamiliarity of ZD handling[/s] lagbombs.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2996, 341, 14, 1292247281, 10, 2996, 'Re: Reserve League', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', '@Fast<br /><br />Two days before draft. Find us 4 more dedicated captains for a 16 team season and come up with a schedule following this formula:<br /><br />-6 div games (2 against all three div opponents)<br />-4 interdiv games<br />-2 interconf games (one against each team that ended in the same spot the prior season)<br /><br />Oh yea and you can&#039;t have three back to back divisional games. It took us around 3 months with outside help to formulate and come up with our current 9 week schedule. If you can do this in two days, I&#039;ll be very impressed and would maybe even push for 16 teams! Good luck.<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />As for everything else, I think bringing the IDDL (or whatever) back is probably a pretty good idea and, like Blair said, players will have to know that it isn&#039;t the league for outcasts and idiots. Though many players didn&#039;t truly apply themselves during the IDDL, there was a good handful that not only did, but made it up to IDL squads with work and dedication to their teams and the league.<br /><br />As the league continues to expand, having this type of sustainable model can be instrumental to both the growth and development of future IDL stars and leaders.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6932, 667, 23, 1338246825, 8, 6932, 'Re: Blue Division Results &amp; Demos', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@intldoomleague.org', '108.207.0.195', 1, 0, '', 'HumanBones 2-0 Shane<br /><br />Moo2d: 50-39<br />D5M1: 50-33<br /><br />Demos: http://humanbones.unidoom.org/mac2012/bones-shane.zip<br /><br />Screenshots: http://imgur.com/gcMBd,GKAbG#0<br /><br />GGs.', 'xx', 1);
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	(2998, 341, 14, 1292250053, 147, 2998, 'Re: Reserve League', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '68.105.199.21', 1, 0, '', 'i&#039;m good with people, i&#039;ll cap if i&#039;m around', 'xx', 1);
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	(2999, 340, 14, 1292251828, 27, 2999, 'Re: Potential Panelists', 'CabooseA7X', 'CabooseA7X@hotmail.com', '98.250.179.15', 1, 0, '', 'I can if need be', 'xx', 1);
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	(3000, 341, 14, 1292255595, 2, 3000, 'Re: Reserve League', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.48.78', 1, 0, '', 'Russiandumbass came from the IDDL, now hes the cap of TKV.&nbsp; He is currently the biggest success story out of IDDL.&nbsp; Others including Mortalogy, Nero, Dewww, Jenova, and Acolyte have all played in the IDDL to later move on into the IDL and do quite well.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3001, 340, 14, 1292260196, 30, 3001, 'Re: Potential Panelists', 'Beast', 'kjolly@uwm.edu', '129.89.125.201', 1, 0, '', 'I asked ralphis about this previously, so yeah I&#039;m interested', 'xx', 1);
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	(3002, 339, 14, 1292261486, 64, 3002, 'Re: Winter 2011 Draft Discussion', 'BloodStrike', 'fat1802002@yahoo.com', '71.63.215.76', 1, 0, '', 'I &lt;3 tai.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3003, 338, 14, 1292265042, 49, 3003, 'Re: Fun stuff this season...', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '216.164.140.107', 1, 0, '', 'Obviously the point system should be rigged so that my playstyle gets a shitton of points.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4362, 472, 17, 1311589764, 8, 4362, 'Re: IDL Teams', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '98.234.131.145', 1, 0, '', 'Here is how I would work out 10 teams: I&#039;m actually going to focus on two scenarios for the regular season, each involving 9 weeks. Before I do that, let&#039;s sort out Conferences and Divisions.<br /><br />[size=3][b]International Doom Conference[/b][/size]<br />[size=2][b]IDC North[/b][/size]<br />[list type=decimal]<br />[li]Techno Vikings[/li]<br />[li]Killing Browns[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=2][b]IDC South[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]Super Chargers[/li]<br />[li]Doom Raiders[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=3][b]Central Conference[/b][/size]<br />[size=2][b]IDC/WDC Central[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]Demonic Colts[/li]<br />[li]Sexual Panthers[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />[size=3][b]World Doom Conference[/b][/size]<br />[size=2][b]WDC North[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]Spread Eagles[/li]<br />[li]Berserker Packers[/li]<br />[/list]<br />[size=2][b]WDC South[/b][/size]<br />[list]<br />[li]Brokeback Cowboys[/li]<br />[li]Flag Steelers[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />Now let me explain the Central Conference. It should be considered more of a Division, but for now I thought it would be an easier way to explain what I&#039;m thinking. DMC and SXP would be considered in the same Division, however if both teams make it into the playoffs, one team will play against IDC teams and the other against WDC. <br /><br />Playoff Conferences would be split up in this regard:<br />IDC - TKV, KGB, SUC, DMR, DMC<br />WDC - SXP, SPE, BSK, BBC, FLS<br /><br />Theoretically, only 8/10 teams will make it into the playoffs (the worst records from each of the [b]playoff conferences[/b] won&#039;t make it), so the season would total out to be 12 weeks. Potentially, the teams in the Central Conference could play a divisional rival in the MasterBowl. This all really depends on how much emphasis is put on the Divisional rivals to begin with, which brings me back to the beginning of my post. There are two regular season scenarios I will focus on that could take place in a 10 team, 9 week season.<br /><br />Scenario 1: Each team plays each other once. <br />Scenario 2: Each team plays its divisional rival twice, and doesn&#039;t meet with one team at all during the regular season.<br /><br />It all really depends on where we put the emphasis. We could focus more on Divisional/Inter-Conference games, which alters teams opponents slightly. It&#039;s a pretty flexible schedule, and I just wanted to put that out there for discussion. We all know how 8 teams works.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(3754, 410, 14, 1300225366, 158, 3754, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '173.206.35.202', 1, 1300225662, 'Jenova', 'Lol, talks about &quot;professionalism&quot; and &quot;serious leagues&quot; when the admins ban players so they themselves can watch games. What a joke. Maybe take those thousands of dollars you spent on your garbage servers and invest them into an admin team (nostar) that doesn&#039;t have shit for a brain.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3889, 419, 1, 1301599276, 10, 3889, 'Re: IDL style mapping contest?', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '64.121.230.48', 1, 0, '', 'Need a decent resource wad but NOT A HUGE ONE', 'xx', 1);
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	(2995, 339, 14, 1292224296, 0, 2995, 'Re: Winter 2011 Draft Discussion', 'Fastidious', '', '76.222.61.14', 1, 0, '', 'Mike did a great writeup.&nbsp; I&#039;m much too lazy to go through the whole drafr order so instead my reckless speculation is going to focus more on what certain captains need.<br /><br />[b]Goatface [/b]should pick Nostar, end of story.&nbsp; Goat is a decent runner but he needs everything, frags, offense and defense to make a winning team.&nbsp; Nostar is the best foundation to build upon for him.&nbsp; Nostar can also offer great advice which Goat looks likely to need after his last season.<br /><br />[b]Tai [/b]has lots of options but Bloodstrike seems quite likely given their lust for one another.&nbsp; Tai could also go for a top runner if he doubts Bloodstrike who as a of late seems still a bit rusty and out of practice.<br /><br />[b]Mantis-X[/b] is one of the most consistent offense players putting up around 20 capures a season.&nbsp; He can play defense quite respectfully too.&nbsp; I&#039;m not sure how he is feeling as of late but he has a lot of flexibility here.&nbsp; White, Mike, Chain, or Gilga would be my guesses.<br /><br />[b]Legion [/b]seems to do best running and has had a few respectful performances but just like Goat he really does need everything.&nbsp; Legion should go for the best defensive player left at this point.<br /><br />[b]HumanBones [/b]is one of the most skilled captains in the league so whoever he gets is will not sink him.&nbsp; Mid seems likely given their history and Bones tendency to choose players more than once.&nbsp; Much like Mantis it just depends on what he feels is best, many players would fit in well with him.<br /><br />[b]Caboose [/b]has put up stellar capture stats in the past and will likely look to smash Mike&#039;s capture record this season.&nbsp; Strong defense is what he needs.&nbsp; Not sure who he will pick but there should still be ample choice at this stage in the draft.<br /><br />[b]Strangle [/b]is a bit stronger skill wise than Goat or Legion but he still needs a core player who can really tough it out for him this season.&nbsp; He should go for defense as I know he can get captures himself.&nbsp; If Rott or Shakal would give him 110% they are great choices.<br /><br />[b]Rus [/b]along with Nostar is the league&#039;s premier defender.&nbsp; His choice should be a runner but who will be left at this stage?&nbsp; Perhaps Josh, Miek or Shak?<br /><br />[b]Ralphis [/b]is a great all around player who should pick based on not pure skills but who he thinks will work best for him and his team.&nbsp; I think Ralph sees defense as more important and since he likes to run himself I could easily see him leaning towards defensive fraggy players at this stage in the draft.&nbsp; Will Rott or Blair form a core UD link?<br /><br />[b]ItalianStallion [/b]is a proven fragger who can play all postions but as of late he has been more slotted into defense and middle.&nbsp; Choosing a runner seems logical but the best ones might be gone by this stage.<br /><br />[b]Hatred [/b]is similar to Stall in many ways so I could see Stall&#039;s pick being the person Hatred wishes to draft himself.&nbsp; I think in a pinch Hatred can play any position well.&nbsp; Given their long relationship I see him picking up Dev who is another all rounder who will continue to get better this season.<br /><br />[b]Jenova [/b]needs a brick wall since he also is looking to smash Mike&#039;s capture record.&nbsp; Shakal, Blair, Saber, Coll or Rott could put up a strong enough wall in a 2D setup to bring him back to back MasterBowl victories.', 'xx', 1);
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	(5809, 565, 20, 1325493300, 163, 5809, 'Re: Preseason Award Favorites', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '76.233.133.120', 1, 1325493681, 'Hatred', 'Captain of the Year:<br /><br />It&#039;s a tough call considering the experience and strong backround every captain possesses this season. I&#039;m going to go on a long-shot here and pick Strangle. His drafting of Whiteboy made sense but most don&#039;t understand Legion when guys like Bloodstrike and MadV were still available. Don&#039;t get me wrong, Legion has stepped his game up but Strangle could have drafted a much stronger team. Everybody figured whiteboy and whitemike were probably a package deal and with Legion, Strangle is going to need to pull out all the stops to be successful. I think he&#039;ll do rather well because of Legions constant improvement, Strangle&#039;s underrated ability to be a competent IDL player and White&#039;s whiteness. I predict them making a wild-card berth and possibly knocking off a top seed in the process. A post-season berth would be an quite an accomplishment for Strangle and I think it would warrant captain of the year honors. Other captains like LB and Prime are in contention because of their seemingly weaker rosters compared to everybody else&#039;s teams but I suspect they&#039;ll fall short, thus eliminating them and giving Strangle the award.<br /><br />Rookie of the Year/breakout player of the year:<br /><br />This award will go to Killforce. He&#039;s been on two IDL rosters in the past and towards the end of last season, he began showing IDL-ready ability. He has a good line-up behind him and that can only help. Legion is also a contender. He has definitely improved as a player from 2 seasons ago. While most might not see him as a goto player, he has definitely worked his way up to being a capable 3rd. With a strong player behind him in White, I think Legion will put up career highs for flags. All in all though, Killforce&#039;s contribution to a good team will probably shine more and give him the award.<br /><br />Defender of the Year: Most people are picking Stallion and I&#039;m pretty much convinced he&#039;s the best defender in the game currently. But I don&#039;t think he&#039;ll get it and not because he&#039;ll be lacking in his performance. I&#039;ll be in front of him and I tend to kill a lot of things. His stats will probably suffer a little more in terms of total frags (though I suspect his k/d ratio will actually increase as a result) but he&#039;ll still be a rock solid defender. I&#039;m going to go off the grid here and say Rus. Ladna is capable but he&#039;s not exactly me or Chaindude (another strong player in front of a great defender). Rus will probably have to man up big time to keep his team in contention and even though Turska is a monster, this is probably the weakest team Rus has had while leading TKV (now known as PDU) as he faces the strongest teams he&#039;s ever faced in the IDC north in SGS (formerly EBL) and KGB. I think PDU (formely TKV) will most likely find their way into the post-season because of Turska/Ladna getting it done enough on offense while Rus goes into shutdown mode and keeps his team in contention every match. <br /><br />Runner of the Year: This is a toss-up between Turska and LB. These are the only two guys I see running every single week for their teams. If Bones&#039; plays higgs and mixes him up with Denny when he can get him on, that will easily eliminate higgs. Even if he doesn&#039;t, I don&#039;t see Higgs putting up the stats LB and turska put up. The Rockets have guys in who will probably switch from mid-to-o each week killing their stats and guys like Legion, Mantis/Gyross probably don&#039;t put up enough stats either. Junior is a darkhorse as well, but I see KGB being a little more defensive than they have been in seasons past because Blair definitely plays better as a fraggier mid closer to D. In the end, LB and Turska will hero some flags and probably lead the board on captures. Overall, I&#039;m going to with LB and it&#039;s not because it&#039;s an easy pick. If anything, he&#039;ll probably get a bunch of caps with little to no help because his team will probably be playing constant 2d as I don&#039;t see him trusting either one to float around in mid for extended periods of time. <br /><br />This is one I forgot to add but I&#039;ll do so anyway:<br /><br />Comeback player of the year:<br /><br />Each year, IDL seems to bring back long-time veterans who&#039;ve been inactive in previous seasons. This season features some big names in Shadow_Ghost, Chaindude, Shakal, Whiteboy, DevastatioN, Higgs, Oath and so forth. Out of all these guys, everyone probably expects Chaindude and Whiteboy to be the best statistical players on their teams. Dev will be strong, too. I don&#039;t know if Denny will be active enough and I still think higgs has a long way to go to be worthy of the award. If he ends up leading the league in any major category or stays close to the top of the leader board, he&#039;s a strong candidate. But I see Oath getting it. Oath will be the x-factor for SUC. If he&#039;s great, SUC contends for another friggin IDC South (god, how many in a row have they won???) title. If he&#039;s not, SUC probably crashes and burns. I think he&#039;ll be pretty solid and help lead his team to the postseason. I also think he&#039;ll put up greater stats offensively, which is something Ralph teams always yield. And when people probably aren&#039;t expecting from him what they do in Chain and White, I think Oath is just as important. And that&#039;s probably why he&#039;ll win the award, for playing the best out of all of them. <br /><br />Ralph Vickers Just For Men MVP:<br /><br />This is really tricky. This season has so many stacked teams so it&#039;s really hard to reward a guy who will probably have inflated stats for being on a great team (thats usually where the MVP goes anyway). I really don&#039;t know so I&#039;ll say me. Because I&#039;m the shit. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(3006, 341, 14, 1292272422, 0, 3006, 'Re: Reserve League', 'Fastidious', '', '76.222.61.14', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/695/16teamschedule.png[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(8801, 870, 17, 1364290791, 4, 8801, 'Re: ThatsJustPrime is New Board Member', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '50.88.51.175', 1, 0, '', 'Excellent choice', 'xx', 1);
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	(3007, 338, 14, 1292272943, 49, 3007, 'Re: Fun stuff this season...', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '216.164.140.107', 1, 0, '', 'lb<br /><br />dont you ever<br /><br />[b]ever[/b]<br />[b][i]ever[/i][/b]<br />[b][i][u]EVER[/u][/i][/b]<br /><br />[move][size=6]EVER[/size][/move]<br /><br />compare me to legion', 'angry', 1);
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	(3008, 338, 14, 1292277077, 19, 3008, 'Re: Fun stuff this season...', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.7.88', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Killingblair link=topic=338.msg3007#msg3007 date=1292272943]<br />lb<br /><br />dont you ever<br /><br />[b]ever[/b]<br />[b][i]ever[/i][/b]<br />[b][i][u]EVER[/u][/i][/b]<br /><br />[move][size=6]EVER[/size][/move]<br /><br />compare me to legion<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Legion &gt; u', 'xx', 1);
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	(3009, 340, 14, 1292277118, 19, 3009, 'Re: Potential Panelists', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.7.88', 1, 0, '', 'Mebbe.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3010, 339, 14, 1292284847, 69, 3010, 'Re: Winter 2011 Draft Discussion', 'Goatface', 'roger.banango@gmail.com', '129.101.16.254', 1, 0, '', '[b]Goatface[/b] My season at this point depends more on whether my connection holds up than who I get, if my connection holds I&#039;m gonna rock shit with anybody on my team.<br /><br />[b]Tai[/b] is going to take Bloodstrike.&nbsp; This is not what I would do but it makes sense for him.&nbsp; They work well together, Tai needs a runner and Blood is good despite being an asshole.&nbsp; There&#039;s about a 5% chance he takes Star or Whiteboy.<br /><br />[b]Mantis-X[/b] is looking for reliable defense.&nbsp; Big fraggers like Star, Whiteboy, Saber, Rott are options.<br /><br />[b]Legion[/b] Despite all the jokes, I think most players in the league would still try their hardest if they were on Legion&#039;s team.&nbsp; Only exception I know of is Nostar and it&#039;s unlikely he&#039;ll still be available.&nbsp; Expect Legion to get the best fragger still available.<br /><br />[b]Bones[/b] is one of the best players if he hasn&#039;t lost his form during his break.&nbsp; I expect him to play D and draft some offensive talent like mike or mid.&nbsp; If there&#039;s a great fragger available he might take that and overpower other teams, but it&#039;s not what I would do.<br /><br />[b]Caboose[/b] is a power runner who will be looking for some defense.&nbsp; He has worked with Sabertooth in the past and they get along well so I expect them to reunite if he&#039;s available. <br /><br />[b]Strangle[/b] is somewhat versatile and can O or D.&nbsp; This opens his options and I&#039;m not sure who he&#039;s going to pick but there should be at least one standout O or D player left at this point which will determine how his roster lines up.<br /><br />[b]Rus[/b] showed up out of the blue and will probably just draft people he knows.&nbsp; Imagining a Doomguy -Winter 2010 situation.<br /><br />[b]Ralphis[/b] is another versatile player and will just draft the best players left and figure out the positions later.&nbsp; He likes to pick different players every season which leaves people like Blair, Mid, Collision, LB or Devastation.<br /><br />[b]Stallion[/b] I picture struggling this season.&nbsp; He&#039;s a good but not great defender and I don&#039;t predict there will be any top runners left.&nbsp; However 3 decent players might be enough in this season.&nbsp; I see him drafting an offensive player like Mid, LB or Bloodstrike if Tai doesn&#039;t take him.<br /><br />[b]Hatred[/b] likes to play mid but I think he&#039;s gonna have to play D this season.&nbsp; He is in a similar position to Stall, but I see him prefering the likes of Dev, Metal or RustInPeace.<br /><br />[b]Jenova[/b] sucks LOL!!!!!!!! He&#039;ll get what he can in terms of defense, should end up with a pretty balanced team.<br /><br /><br />A few notes:<br />With 4 R captains I expect players like bloodstrike, aerial and beast to end up on one of those teams.<br />There are a lot of wild cards: Chaindude could no-show, Shakal has spotty history, Clim said he&#039;ll be around more but didn&#039;t last season, Saber, Xen and LB are all complaining about their connections and it goes on like this.&nbsp; With the talent more spread out some of these veterans dropping out could spell disaster for somebody&#039;s season.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3011, 340, 14, 1292286397, 76, 3011, 'Re: Potential Panelists', 'RussianDumbass', 'russiandumbass@gmail.com', '146.115.165.241', 1, 0, '', 'Sup, Rusdick here. I have many mics. So many mics.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3012, 340, 14, 1292288142, 35, 3012, 'Re: Potential Panelists', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.240.85.23', 1, 0, '', 'hook a nigga up and stop downplaying that shit', 'xx', 1);
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	(3013, 340, 14, 1292289160, 167, 3013, 'Re: Potential Panelists', 'mandolore', 'doom.candy@yahoo.com', '67.161.14.172', 1, 0, '', 'Ill do the spanish version of this ', 'xx', 1);
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	(2977, 339, 14, 1292192144, 2, 3013, 'Winter 2011 Draft Discussion', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.48.78', 1, 1292290205, 'Goatface', 'The following thread is for open discussion of the Winter 2011 draft. The official draft order can be found by clicking [url=http://wiki.intldoomleague.org/index.php?title=W2011_Draft] here.[/url]<br /><br />The draft will take place live Wednesday, December 15 @ 9pm EDT.<br /><br />Speculation GO!', 'xx', 1);
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	(3014, 339, 14, 1292290973, 1989, 3014, 'Re: Winter 2011 Draft Discussion', 'higgs', 'phiggs@gmail.com', '68.151.44.209', 1, 0, '', 'mm thanks for the mentions mike =) Just wanted to let any potential pickers know I&#039;ve been clanning in TFC &amp; Quake since the late 90s, so altho I am new to DOOM my composure during games will be cool headed / calm (no rage).<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(6933, 667, 23, 1338249510, 19, 6933, 'Re: Blue Division Results &amp; Demos', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.227.220', 1, 0, '', 'Xenaero 2-0 Decay<br /><br />Moo2d: 50-31 http://i.imgur.com/HdWiA.png<br />Exposed: 50-26 http://i.imgur.com/80iVP.png<br /><br />Demos: http://xen.unidoom.org/doom/mac/mac2012-xenvsdecay.zip', 'xx', 1);
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	(3350, 380, 1, 1296751567, 19, 3350, 'Re: Odamex - try it, you''ll like it!', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.1.67', 1, 0, '', 'You smell mike', 'xx', 1);
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	(4363, 463, 18, 1311612762, 15, 4363, 'Re: Week 7 (Jul 18 - Jul 25) : ZDCTF15: Sewers Smell Bad - Discussion and Results', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '68.171.231.80', 1, 0, '', 'Too bad their idea of a comeback is ejaculating into a fan!<br />JK, I heard that some where and I just can&#039;t help myself from saying it.<br /><br />Indeed they were gg&#039;s.&nbsp; Too bad knf didn&#039;t have this lineup all season, they&#039;re decent. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(3890, 419, 1, 1301619863, 89, 3890, 'Re: IDL style mapping contest?', 'Solar_Flare', 'cdstrangle@gmail.com', '65.68.73.143', 1, 0, '', 'I can only design but I&#039;d do this.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4722, 483, 16, 1315434699, 3, 4722, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'Joshsmith', 'tonihawker666@yahoo.com', '99.9.212.71', 1, 0, '', 'Damnit even Mike cares about those stupid banners. Well if it gets voted into a wad I&#039;ll fix it, and just that. Changing the door might be cheating and besides, it was tested by me to be that unforgiving. Like with the BFG drop on TierDM, they both were originally even harder to pull off but I made them slightly easier.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4375, 475, 1, 1311871812, 163, 4375, 'You know what I like the most?', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.110.104.242', 1, 0, '', 'http://www.cakefarts.com/', 'xx', 1);
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	(4023, 431, 18, 1304885921, 8, 4073, 'IDL S2011 Invite List', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '24.147.28.219', 1, 1306087756, 'HumanBones', 'What follows is the invite list for the Summer 2011 season of the International Doom league. With the exception of the 12 confirmed captains, all following players who confirm themselves to be in the league will be available for drafting and entered into free agency (will be able to be drafted or picked up from any team until Wednesday of Week 5).<br /><br />A quick definition:<br /><br />[b]Free Agency[/b] - Any player who is not a captain is placed into free agency. The player remains a free agent until they are drafted to a team or until the trading deadline ends and roster changes are no longer allowed.<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[b]IDL Summer 2011 Captains (*Denotes captain new to their club)[/b]<br /><br />--------------IDC NORTH<br />EBL - Hatred<br />KGB - Tai<br />TKV - RussianDumbass<br />--------------IDC SOUTH<br />SUC - Ralphis<br />DMR - LordBritish*<br />DMC - Nautilus*<br />--------------WDC EAST<br />BSK - Climhazzard*<br />SPE - MassVC*<br />SXP - HumanBones<br />--------------WDC WEST<br />BBC - ThatsJustPrime*<br />FLS - Legion<br />KNF - Strangle<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />Any player on this list must contact a member of the IDL Administration, either the commissioner or board member, to confirm or deny their IDL invite. Any invites not responded to by Sunday, May 15th (11:59pm EST) will be voided. <br /><br />Any players who signed up [b]-directly-[/b] (as in, somebody else did not fill out their sign-up post) automatically had their invite accepted.<br /><br />The draft will occur some time between May 16-22nd where teams will fill their roster with the required four players (order determined by final Winter 2011 standings).<br /><br />Trading is unlimited during pre-season. Teams will be able to make a maximum of three trades from the beginning of Week 1 through Wednesday of Week 5, with one trade per week permitted. Teams may not trade if they have played their game during that week and must wait until the following week to trade.<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />This invite list was voted on and approved by the IDL Board.<br /><br />Invites bolded are confirmed players. Invites with a strike out are those who denied their invite.<br /><br />[b]IDL Summer 2011 Free Agency Invites[/b]<br /><br />[s]Acolyte[/s]<br />[s]Aerial[/s]<br />[b]Asgar[/b]<br />[s]Beast[/s]<br />[b]Bloodstrike[/b]<br />[b]Bulb[/b]<br />[b]Capodecima[/b]<br />[s]Chaindude[/s]<br />[b]Chewy[/b]<br />[b]Collision[/b]<br />[s]Cookies[/s]<br />[b]Dawsonation[/b]<br />[s]Delusion<br />DevastatioN[/s]<br />[b]Devisin[/b]<br />[b]Dew[/b]<br />[b]DR_Noob[/b]<br />[s]Firedragon<br />Fleshwizard<br />Fluffles[/s]<br />[b]Gilgamesh[/b]<br />[b]Goatface[/b]<br />[b]Godlike[/b]<br />[b]Godsdoomer[/b]<br />[b]Gyrossman[/b]<br />[s]HeavenWraith<br />Higgs [/s]<br />[b]HydrasFire[/b]<br />[b]ItalianStallion[/b]<br />[s]Jenova<br />JKist3[/s]<br />[s]Joshsmith[/s]<br />[b]Junior[/b]<br />[b]Killemall[/b]<br />[b]Killforce[/b]<br />[s]Killingblair<br />Kov<br />Ladna[/s]<br />[b]MadV[/b]<br />[s]Malignity[/s]<br />[b]Mandolore[/b]<br />[b]Mantis-X[/b]<br />[b]Marax[/b]<br />[s]MeccaGod[/s]<br />[b]Megasonic[/b]<br />[s]Midian[/s]<br />[b]Mikehail[/b]<br />[b]Mobius[/b]<br />[b]Nati46[/b]<br />[s]Nazz<br />Nero[/s]<br />[b]Nostar[/b]<br />[b]Nosturi[/b]<br />[s]Oath<br />OurHero<br />Quiksilver<br />Reave[/s]r<br />[b]Reckless[/b]<br />[s]RedShirt[/s]<br />[b]Rexn0r[/b]<br />[s]Roscoe[/s]<br />[s]RottKing[/s]<br />[b]RustInPeace[/b]<br />[b]Sabertooth[/b]<br />[b]Souler[/b]<br />[b]Soul Sucka[/b]<br />[b]STINKBOMB[/b]<br />[b]Swiftshot[/b]<br />[b]Tavion[/b]<br />[b]Tobi[/b]<br />[s]Treky[/s]<br />[b]TurSKA[/b]<br />[s]Whiteboy[/s]<br />[b]X-Ray[/b]<br />[b]Xenaero[/b]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4329, 462, 18, 1310877557, 19, 4329, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 11 - Jul 17) : ZDU10: Compatible Mainframe - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.53.140.114', 1, 0, '', 'As the struggle between KGB and KNF continues, with many lives and flags lost, the true threat on the battlefield to weary space marines is made clear in this latest publication from Xen Production Studios, whose reporters sacrificed safety to clearly document the elusive trees that have taken many a life and flag.<br /><br />[img]http://xen.unidoom.org/doom/trees.png[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4132, 442, 16, 1306784971, 2, 4132, 'Re: A Post About Trading That You Should Read', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.37.22.79', 1, 0, '', 'Because every single captain wants you on their team and thus no captain is willing to give you up.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4449, 452, 17, 1312322961, 213, 4449, 'Re: Draft Improvement Proposition for Winter 2012', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '174.103.4.230', 1, 0, '', 'Since I exhausted my views on this topic in another thread [i]ad nauseum[/i], I have little to say about it.&nbsp; My suggestion there involved tiering players.&nbsp; I proposed this to the board but they and the commissioner voted unanimously against it because, as the Texan Christian says of the homosexual, it &quot;just don&#039;t seem right.&quot;&nbsp; Still, the IDL community, as the Texan Christian of homosexuality, seems to want [i]so badly[/i] to partake in it:<br /><br />[quote author=Fastidious]That&#039;s true but maybe the forced captaining could be setup to pick the best captains.&nbsp; Either board or the players could vote or select them somehow.[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=Hatred]Set a random draft pool for 16 of the top players (ranked by the IDL community) and the top 8 are made captains.[/quote]<br /><br />[quote author=Nostar]My personal opinion is that Legion, Mass, and Clim should be given the first picks in a straight draft. Strangle, Naut, and Prime should be given the next tier...[/quote]<br /><br />[quote]&lt;Ralphis`&gt;	I would be in favor of the following, but I&#039;m a glutton for punishment:<br />&lt;Ralphis`&gt;	Draft doesn&#039;t snake, just goes forward<br />&lt;Ralphis`&gt;	so I would&#039;ve gotten 11th and 23rd picks this season<br />&lt;Ralphis`&gt;	but I know not many are in favor of that<br />&lt;MassVC&gt;	ralphis: why is it cool that you would get 11th and 23rd picks?&nbsp; because you&#039;re good and that would even out the league?<br />&lt;MassVC&gt;	and legion would&#039;ve gotten 1st and 13th?<br />&lt;Ralphis`&gt;	well Mass, theoretically it would probably work better long-term than the snake, with captain retention in play<br />&lt;Ralphis`&gt;	because yes, exactly what you said[/quote]<br /><br />But, the second you say &quot;tiering,&quot; everyone shrinks away.&nbsp; So, since this won&#039;t soon come to pass, I am in full support of Dew&#039;s (my) idea.<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(4130, 443, 18, 1306768127, 8, 4130, 'Week 1 (Jun 6 - Jun 12) : ZDCTF26 (MAP 26) - Discussion and Results', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '96.233.70.75', 1, 0, '', '[center][b][size=5]Official Servers for Week 1 of IDL Summer 2011[/size][/b]<br /><br />[color=red][:: TotalTrash Chicago :: IDL- A][/color]<br />[b]66.225.195.41:11022[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][:: TotalTrash Chicago :: IDL- B][/color]<br />[b]66.225.195.41:11023[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][:: TotalTrash Chicago :: IDL -C][/color]<br />[b]66.225.195.41:11024[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][:: TotalTrash Chicago :: IDL- D][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11025[/b]<br /><br />[center][b][size=5]Alternate Servers for Week 1 of IDL Summer 2011[/size][/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][NJ FUNCRUSHER + || IDL Practice][/color]<br />[b]66.45.244.218:10663[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][NJ FUNCRUSHER + || IDL Summer 2011][/color]<br />[b]66.45.244.218:10662[/b]<br /><br />=======================================================<br />[b]<br />Super Chargers vs. Techno Vikings (CONF)<br /><br />Doom Raiders vs. Electric Bills (CONF)<br /><br />Demonic Colts vs. Killing Browns (CONF)<br /><br />Berserker Packers vs. Brokeback Cowboys (CONF)<br /><br />Spread Eagles vs. Flag Steelers (CONF)<br /><br />Sexual Panthers vs. Fnordy Niners (CONF)[/b]<br /><br />=======================================================[/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4328, 462, 18, 1310666856, 19, 4328, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 11 - Jul 17) : ZDU10: Compatible Mainframe - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.53.140.114', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;m so happy I don&#039;t do predictions anymore, you guys make me proud.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4024, 28, 21, 1304964918, 2083, 4024, 'Re: Auto-Demoing: How to do it', 'JerkAss', 'kevinstahlbrand09@gmail.com', '99.228.22.188', 1, 0, '', 'Name: JerkAss<br />Country/State: CANADA<br />Email Contact: predator12302010@gmail.com<br />Instant Message Contact: IRC<br />Regular Availability: evenings, weekends', 'xx', 1);
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	(3017, 339, 14, 1292351118, 213, 3017, 'Re: Winter 2011 Draft Discussion', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '75.186.106.4', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=higgs link=topic=339.msg3014#msg3014 date=1292290973]<br />mm thanks for the mentions mike =) [...] (no rage).<br />[/quote]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3015, 342, 14, 1292304473, 69, 3117, 'ALERT: OFFICIAL WINTER 2011 SCHEDULE RELEASE', 'Goatface', 'roger.banango@gmail.com', '129.101.16.65', 1, 1293448381, 'Ralphis', '[b]Week 1 - MAP07 ZDCTF07 ( JAN 3 THRU JAN 9 )[/b]<br />Killing Browns v Techno Vikings (DIV)<br />Doom Raiders v Demonic Colts (DIV)<br />Spread Eagles v Sexual Panthers (DIV)<br />Flag Steelers v Fnordy Niners (DIV)<br />Electric Bills v Berserker Packers (INT)<br />Super Chargers v Brokeback Cowboys (INT)<br /><br />[b]Week 2 - MAP30 ZDUCTF30 ( JAN 10 THRU JAN 16 )[/b]<br />Killing Browns v Electric Bills (DIV)<br />Super Chargers v Doom Raiders (DIV)<br />Berserker Packers v Spread Eagles (DIV)<br />Brokeback Cowboys v Flag Steelers (DIV)<br />Demonic Colts v Fnordy Niners (INT)<br />Techno Vikings v Sexual Panthers (INT)<br /><br />[b]Week 3 - MAP29 ZDECTF2-19 ( JAN 17 THRU JAN 23 )[/b]<br />Techno Vikings v Electric Bills (DIV)<br />Demonic Colts v Super Chargers (DIV)<br />Sexual Panthers v Berserker Packers (DIV)<br />Fnordy Niners v Brokeback Cowboys (DIV)<br />Flag Steelers v Killing Browns (INT)<br />Spread Eagles v Doom Raiders (INT)<br /><br />[b]Week 4 - MAP12 THIRTY4-16 ( JAN 24 THRU JAN 30 )[/b]<br />Electric Bills v Doom Raiders (CONF)<br />Killing Browns v Demonic Colts (CONF)<br />Techno Vikings v Super Chargers (CONF)<br />Berserker Packers v Flag Steelers (CONF)<br />Spread Eagles v Fnordy Niners (CONF)<br />Sexual Panthers v Brokeback Cowboys (CONF)<br /><br />[b]Week 5 - MAP31 THIRTY4-31 ( JAN 31 THRU FEB 6 )[/b]<br />Killing Browns v Techno Vikings (DIV)<br />Demonic Colts v Doom Raiders (DIV)<br />Sexual Panthers v Spread Eagles (DIV)<br />Flag Steelers v Fnordy Niners (DIV)<br />Brokeback Cowboys v Electric Bills (INT)<br />Super Chargers v Berserker Packers (INT)<br /><br />[b]Week 6 - MAP20 ZDECTF2-01 ( FEB 7 THRU FEB 13 )[/b]<br />Fnordy Niners v Sexual Panthers (CONF)<br />Berserker Packers v Brokeback Cowboys (CONF)<br />Flag Steelers v Spread Eagles (CONF)<br />Demonic Colts v Techno Vikings (CONF)<br />Super Chargers v Electric Bills (CONF)<br />Doom Raiders v Killing Browns (CONF)<br /><br />[b]Week 7 - MAP28 CHAOSCORE11 ( FEB 14 THRU FEB 20 )[/b]<br />Fnordy Niners v Berserker Packers (CONF)<br />Brokeback Cowboys v Spread Eagles (CONF)<br />Flag Steelers v Sexual Panthers (CONF)<br />Super Chargers v Killing Browns (CONF)<br />Doom Raiders v Techno Vikings (CONF)<br />Demonic Colts v Electric Bills (CONF)<br /><br />[b]Week 8 - MAP17 THIRTY4-17 ( FEB 21 THRU FEB 27 )[/b]<br />Super Chargers v Demonic Colts (DIV)<br />Electric Bills v Techno Vikings (DIV)<br />Brokeback Cowboys v Fnordy Niners (DIV)<br />Berserker Packers v Sexual Panthers (DIV)<br />Killing Browns v Spread Eagles (INT)<br />Doom Raiders v Flag Steelers (INT)<br /><br />[b]Week 9 - MAP08 ZDCTF08( FEB 28 THRU MAR 6 )[/b]<br />Electric Bills v Killing Browns (DIV)<br />Brokeback Cowboys v Flag Steelers(DIV)<br />Doom Raiders v Super Chargers (DIV)<br />Spread Eagles v Berserker Packers (DIV)<br />Sexual Panthers v Demonic Colts (INT)<br />Techno Vikings v Fnordy Niners (INT)<br /><br />[b]Wildcard Playoffs - ( MAR 7 THRU MAR 13 )<br /><br />Conf. Championships - ( MAR 14 THRU MAR 20 )<br /><br />MasterBowl IX - MAP26 ZDCTF26 ( MAR 21 THRU MAR 27 )[/b]<br /><br />All info comes from here: http://ralphis.unidoom.org/stuff/idl/w2011_sched.htm<br />Pretty sure I didn&#039;t screw anything up; let me know if you notice a mistake.', 'exclamation', 1);
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	(2947, 336, 14, 1290988819, 10, 3018, 'IDL W2011 Invite List', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 1292355909, 'Ralphis', 'What follows is the invite list for the Summer 2010 season of the International Doom league. With the exception of the 12 confirmed captains, all following players who confirm themselves to be in the league will be available for drafting and entered into free agency (will be able to be drafted or picked up from any team until Wednesday of Week 5).<br /><br />A quick definition:<br /><br />[b]Free Agency[/b] - Any player who is not a captain is placed into free agency. The player remains a free agent until they are drafted to a team or until the trading deadline ends and roster changes are no longer allowed.<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[b]IDL Winter 2011 Captains (*Denotes captain new to their club)[/b]<br /><br />--------------IDC NORTH<br />EBL - Hatred*<br />KGB - Tai<br />TKV - RussianDumbass*<br />--------------IDC SOUTH<br />SUC - Ralphis<br />DMR - Goatface<br />DMC - Caboose*<br />--------------WDC EAST<br />BSK - Jenova<br />SPE - Mantis-X<br />SXP - HumanBones*<br />--------------WDC WEST<br />BBC - ItalianStallion*<br />FLS - Legion*<br />KNF - Strangle*<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />Any player on this list must contact a member of the IDL Administration, either the commissioner or board member, to confirm or deny their IDL invite. Any invites not responded to by Saturday, December 11th (11:59pm EST) will be voided. <br /><br />Any players who signed up [b]-directly-[/b] (as in, somebody else did not fill out their sign-up post) automatically had their invite accepted.<br /><br />The draft will occur some time between December 15-22nd where teams will fill their roster with the required four players (order determined by final Summer 2010 standings).<br /><br />Trading is unlimited during pre-season. Teams will be able to make a maximum of three trades from the beginning of Week 1 through Wednesday of Week 5, with one trade per week permitted. Teams may not trade if they have played their game during that week and must wait until the following week to trade.<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />This invite list was voted on and approved by the IDL Board.<br /><br />Invites bolded are confirmed players. Invites with a strike out are those who denied their invite.<br /><br />[b]IDL Winter 2011 Free Agency Invites[/b]<br /><br />[b]Acolyte[/b]<br />[b]Aerial[/b]<br />[b]Asgar[/b]<br />[b]Beast[/b]<br />[b]Bloodstrike[/b]<br />[b]BrandonD451[/b]<br />[b]Capodecima[/b]<br />[b]Chaindude[/b]<br />[b]Climhazzard[/b]<br />[b]Collision[/b]<br />[b]Dawsonation[/b]<br />[b]Devastation[/b]<br />[b]Devisin[/b]<br />[b]Dew[/b]<br />[b]Dosu[/b]<br />[b]DR_Noob[/b]<br />[b]Fleshwizard[/b]<br />[b]Fluffles[/b]<br />[b]Gilgamesh[/b]<br />[b]Godsdoomer[/b]<br />[s]Gyrossman[/s]<br />[b]Higgs (LF)Fei[/b] <br />[b]Hydra (RedShirt)[/b]<br />[b]HydrasFire[/b]<br />[b]Joshsmith[/b]<br />[b]Junior[/b]<br />[s]Killemall[/s]<br />[b]Killforce[/b]<br />[b]Killingblair[/b]<br />[b]Kov[/b]<br />[s]Ladna[/s]<br />[b]LordAtreyuDX[/b]<br />[b]LordBritish[/b]<br />[b]MadV[/b]<br />[b]Mandolore[/b]<br />[b]MassVC[/b]<br />[s]MeccaGod[/s]<br />[b]Metalhead[/b]<br />[b]Midian[/b]<br />[b]Mikehail[/b]<br />[b]Mobius[/b]<br />[b]Nazz[/b]<br />[s]Nero[/s]<br />[b]Nostar[/b]<br />[s]Oath[/s]<br />[b]OurHero[/b]<br />[b]Quiksilver[/b]<br />[b]Propane[/b]<br />[b]Reaver[/b]<br />[b]Reckless[/b]<br />[b]Rexn0r[/b]<br />[b]Roscoe[/b]<br />[s]Rosebird[/s]<br />[b]RottKing[/b]<br />[b]RustInPeace[/b]<br />[b]Sabertooth[/b]<br />[b]SandBlaster[/b]<br />[b]Shakal[/b]<br />[b]Sol (Tenchu)[/b]<br />[b]Souler[/b]<br />[s]Stinkbomb[/s]<br />[b]Swiftshot[/b]<br />[b]Tavion[/b]<br />[b]TeK[/b]<br />[b]ThatsJustPrime[/b]<br />[b]Treky[/b]<br />[b]TurSKA[/b]<br />[s]Wazzup[/s] - [i]Invite revoked by league[/i]<br />[b]Whiteboy[/b]<br />[b]X-Ray[/b]<br />[b]Xenaero[/b]', 'exclamation', 1);
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	(3019, 339, 14, 1292357822, 3, 3019, 'Re: Winter 2011 Draft Discussion', 'Joshsmith', 'tonihawker666@yahoo.com', '99.9.212.71', 1, 0, '', 'I thought the draft was today, but now I realize it is because I checked the date past 12:00 am. That sucks.<br /><br />I could speculate but I don&#039;t wanna jinx my thoughts, I just wanna have a smug self satisfied smile afterward that will give me the assurance I need to take my team to the top. Yeah, let&#039;s go egos.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3018, 339, 14, 1292353189, 130, 3019, 'Re: Winter 2011 Draft Discussion', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 1292369941, 'nostar', 'I&#039;m going #1. Stop thinking otherwise.<br /><br />I wont comment on captains that I know are set, but I&#039;ll give some of my ideas to people who need them, even if they don&#039;t want them!<br /><br />Goat you have great ideas and a bad connection. If your connection holds you don&#039;t need any draft help. My advice is to pick people who will show and play well. Consistency will matter at lot because of how your schedule works. 66% of your games are winnable without significant heroics imo. Your 3rd will dictate how good your team is all season.<br /><br />TAI: Pick whiteboy you dumb bfg spamming gaywad. If you pick bloodstrike you shouldn&#039;t be allowed to captain again, and might not get a chance to as I doubt you&#039;ll make playoffs with Blood + pick #23. Pick white and suffer his awesome rage. He is your only chance to be relevant. I said this to Xen last season too. Pick white and let him carry your dumbass to the playoffs.<br /><br />Mantis: With your pick, I would expect myself and whiteboy to be gone. You can chance Chain, although that is risking another Denny situation of no-showing, or you can try to pickup a defender so you can run, which is dumb. If I were you I&#039;d pick mike, but you won&#039;t, so maybe you can err on the side of Saber or Gilgamesh and go ping-safe. Those guys are versatile enough that you could get them to play D. But if you ever came to your senses and they could run for you too. With pick #22 you&#039;ll need someone who can fill in where your 3rd is lacking, so a versatile player like Gilga might be just what you need. <br /><br />Legion: There is nothing you can do. You can draft Chain, but I wouldn&#039;t chance him being around enough. You need someone who will be around every day and that isn&#039;t Chain at this point. White and I will be gone so we can&#039;t carry you. I wouldn&#039;t draft Blood as he&#039;s neither a top player nor is he a reliable player, to date. If I were you&#039;d I&#039;d do one of two things, pick to trade or pick someone you like. You can pick Chain and try to trade him to a lower picking team for 2 solid players or you can pick Dr_Noob and have a solid defender who will show for you. I assume you guys know each other through skulltag so he might not hate playing for you. That is the best I have for you. If I were you I might try to trade my pick down, but since you can&#039;t officially trade draft picks, make sure you trade with someone who won&#039;t bone you if you decide to go that way.<br /><br />Caboose: If miek is around take him. You can maybe convince him to give you your channel back. Saber is a good substitute as is Gilga or Bloodstrike. Really you don&#039;t need help, but as a rookie cap I don&#039;t imagine you&#039;ll make any draft gaffs, at least not 1st round. <br /><br />Strangle, draft the smartest person left. Saber, miek, KB, Gilga, Chain. Whoever you can get away with that has a brain, because you don&#039;t have one 90% of the time. I know people think you are a defender, but I watched you run map32 last season and I see your skill set differently. You need to be a runner. Pick a fraggy defender and try your best to beat Legion in both of your div games. I don&#039;t think you&#039;re screwed though, I expect Stallion to have a bad season, and Legion to have the worst season so you&#039;re my darkhorse to make playoffs. You will benefit from me and white being in the IDC, the WDC is pretty much a cakewalk aside from bones at this point.<br /><br />Stall: You&#039;re a defender. You can try to be a fraggy runner like fast but...there is a reason, despite pretty solid running stats, that fast isn&#039;t considered a great runner. You can try to be mid, but you are extremely dumb and mid takes a little brains. I&#039;d draft the best runner left. If miek drops, which he has a tendency to do, get him. If saber is around, get him. LB is a risk but I think he&#039;s work well with you. <br /><br />Hatred: Take whoever stall doesn&#039;t. You actually have a brain so you could mid, and leave a lesser skilled but capable fragger on defense. Saber, LB (you won&#039;t get miek), Josh would even work for you. You get a good 2nd round pick so you should just pick the best player left and then fill in with a solid 3rd (Rust, Collision, Mid) in the 2nd round. Make team frag and try your best to fight off Tai and Rus in the Division of Slaughter.<br /><br />Rus, Bones, Ralph and Jen are all pretty smart captains and don&#039;t need help. Jenova needs to beat out bones twice, and seeing that bones is in position to get miek or chain I don&#039;t like his chances. Jen will have him on the 3rd but Bones is 50x any other player. Ralph has a good chance at playoffs regardless of who he picks. <br />------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />What is cool about this draft is that the 1st round doesn&#039;t really mean as much as the 2nd round with 12 teams. There will be 3-4 teams with major holes in their lineups due to the drop off in skill around pick #19 or #20.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3020, 338, 14, 1292391468, 7, 3020, 'Re: Fun stuff this season...', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'Legion drafts Blair.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3206, 360, 14, 1294707478, 137, 3206, 'Re: Week 1 (Jan 3 - Jan 9) : ZDCTF07 (MAP07) - Discussion and Results', 'Collision_', 'zdcollision@gmail.com', '72.53.158.204', 1, 0, '', 'haters gonna hate dem hoes. [url=http://www.speedyshare.com/files/26188836/download/knf%20fls%202011-01-09%20195235%20idl2011.108.zdo]Download Here![/url]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3021, 343, 14, 1292402529, 163, 3021, 'New IDL Maps', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.50.11.226', 1, 0, '', 'Don&#039;t let the topic title confuse you, this topic is not being made to dispute the current maplist in the IDL wad. Instead, I&#039;ve designated this as a thread for people to show off their maps and possibly give them an opportunity to be in future IDL wads. That&#039;s all there really is to it. Another plus to this thread is that you should get some feedback from the entire IDL community on your map! Okay, I&#039;m going to go ahead and post my super box map with a 3d floor! Hoopla! <br /><br />http://www.speedyshare.com/files/25716823/3dfloorRV.wad', 'xx', 1);
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	(3351, 359, 1, 1296754082, 49, 3351, 'Re: IDL''s No. 1 Issue', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '216.164.140.107', 1, 0, '', 'New footages of hatred&#039;s new child!<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/IYCOb.gif[/img]<br /><br />uhh....', 'xx', 1);
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	(3699, 402, 14, 1299648586, 163, 3699, 'Re: A general response to server lag', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.110.106.54', 1, 0, '', 'Solution: zdhook ', 'xx', 1);
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	(3891, 419, 1, 1301626703, 15, 3891, 'Re: IDL style mapping contest?', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.90.44', 1, 0, '', 'We all know any map lb makes will get scrapped.... :D', 'xx', 1);
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	(5810, 538, 1, 1325560776, 222, 5810, 'Re: Vidja Game Recommendation Thread', 'Cecil', 'DarkCecil05@gmail.com', '76.3.95.39', 1, 0, '', 'If you going to play a series of old school games that are Co-op (Double Dragon/Contra/TMNT/Secret of Mania/Streets of Rage/DKC 2/Mario/etc), you want to team up together and do a LP (Let&#039;s Play)?', 'xx', 1);
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	(6939, 671, 22, 1338340637, 10, 6939, 'Re: S2012 Invite List', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '98.225.144.111', 1, 0, '', 'This is not the place for drama', 'xx', 1);
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	(4376, 473, 18, 1311879782, 147, 4376, 'Re: Week 8 (Jul 25 - Aug 1) : ZDCTF18: The Old Castle - Discussion and Results', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.35.212', 1, 0, '', 'christ guys, just because we haven&#039;t played in a month doesn&#039;t mean we still aren&#039;t gonna rock the house', 'xx', 1);
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	(6107, 597, 18, 1327789900, 163, 6107, 'Re: New TotalTrash Servers!', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.99.93.147', 1, 0, '', 'They do seem pretty solid..though last night something pretty strange happened. While we were practicing with SUC, there was a 5 second period of where shots just weren&#039;t registering for everybody (SUC probably didn&#039;t realize this, they had the flag and were running lol) but Blood, X-Ray and I all noticed it. To have something like that occur is rather strange but I certainly wouldn&#039;t bash the new server set for one hiccup. I did pull off a shot that did like 70 damage to Ralph from across the map (he&#039;s still probably accusing me of cheating!) ;D. Either way, thanks a ton to Ladna and Nostar for firing their old client! The other positive is I tend to stay in the teens now more ping-wise than I did with the older set so...unfortunately Ladna/Nostar, you&#039;ve doomed everybody not in SGS! ', 'xx', 1);
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	(6934, 667, 23, 1338249579, 2174, 6934, 'Re: Blue Division Results &amp; Demos', 'Decay`', 'systemdecay@hotmail.ca', '99.254.95.70', 1, 0, '', 'my demos: http://speedy.sh/PwAEn/vsXen.zip', 'xx', 1);
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	(8642, 855, 17, 1362972761, 214, 8642, 'Re: This is why...', 'RustInPeace', 'ru5tk1ng@yahoo.com', '70.241.26.214', 1, 0, '', 'Yeah we&#039;re all emotional and about to burst into tears but you&#039;re the one leaving because everyone is mean to you.&nbsp; ::)<br /><br /><br />You&#039;re finished. Good bye.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3022, 338, 14, 1292404327, 157, 3022, 'Re: Fun stuff this season...', 'Legion_', 'theomegaantin00b@gmail.com', '71.121.101.254', 1, 0, '', 'I like how this thread is turning out<br /><br />also IDL suicide league thing sounds like a nice idea', 'xx', 1);
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	(3023, 339, 14, 1292405289, 16, 3023, 'Re: Winter 2011 Draft Discussion', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '149.152.191.3', 1, 0, '', '[b]Goatface:[/b]<br /><br />To be honest, I don&#039;t care who you pick, provided it&#039;s not someone clearly not #1 material. Chances are you&#039;ll take Star or White, or even Mike, and chances are you&#039;ll do fine. But yes, like Star said, who will you pick 3rd? <br /><br />[b]Tai:[/b]<br /><br />For what it&#039;s worth, I don&#039;t care what anyone says.<br /><br />Take that as you will. : )<br /><br />[b]Mantis:[/b]<br /><br />So, are you a runner or are you a defender? Are you both? Are you a mid? Who knows. Are you probably gonna pick the best player available, as opposed to who will &quot;suit&quot; you? Of course! Now who is that? Probably whoever me and Goat don&#039;t pick. Who COULD that be? Probably Mike. Probably White. Maybe Star! I&#039;m apparently considered the only captain crazy enough to touch Blood with his first round pick, but if he&#039;s still on the board come your turn, does he suit you? Chain&#039;s possible, provided he isn&#039;t MIA all season, and provided he&#039;s still on the board. Who knows. You probably. What was I saying?<br /><br />[b]Legion:[/b]<br /><br />No matter how anyone spins it, you&#039;re a IDL player. Maybe not the most respected, and definitely not the best, but considering who&#039;s played in IDL and Doom today as a whole, you &quot;do&quot;. We know you&#039;re [i]pretty[/i] good, but will you make good decisions on the CTF field or will you be outsmarted to the point your teammates ragequit mid-season? Now, who will you pick? Hopefully a good defender; you&#039;ll be torn in half otherwise.<br /><br />[b]Bones[/b]: Where have you been? You have a lot of nerve showing up out of nowhere. No doubt you&#039;re lucky to not be in my division. Or conference. Whatever.<br /><br />Of course, you&#039;ll pick a runner. Or will you? Or will you pick a fragger? Hmm.<br /><br />[b]Caboose[/b]: My honorable captain...haha, you believed that. But you&#039;re still my captain, so I suppose that means something. At least outside IDL. : ) <br />I imagine you&#039;ll want to draft a defender, but then I imagine you looking at the ones on the list. Then looking at me. Then looking back at the list. THEN BACK AT ME AGAIN. Sadly, they aren&#039;t me, now look again, THEY ARE NOW A BUNCH OF NUBLETS. What&#039;s in your hand? Back at me. I have it. A Masterbowl ring. Look again. It&#039;s not as golden, but it&#039;s still there. You know you want it. Come get it. : ) <br /><br />How do you get it? <br /><br />[b]Strangle:[/b]<br /><br />They said you were a defender. You know what I think? You&#039;d be one of the guys Caboose saw if he looked again if you weren&#039;t a captain. Draft accordingly. : )<br /><br />[B]Rus:[/B]<br /><br />I don&#039;t know where you came from, but you in my division may make me a sad panda. Maybe you&#039;ll draft improperly and bail me out. Or you&#039;ll still suck regardless (against me?). But I think I know the type of player you&#039;ll want, and I know you&#039;ll get him. <br /><br />[B]Ralphis:[/B]<br /><br />You&#039;ll probably get a defender because I remember you bragging about your stats when I said you couldn&#039;t run. Whatever, just don&#039;t choke away another #1 team. : ) <br /><br />[B]Stallion:[/B]<br /><br />You clearly are a brutal fragger who can mid or D, so will you pick a runner to get the flags? But who? There are options at this point, but are you willing to take them? <br /><br />[B]Hatred:[/B]<br /><br />Clearly you&#039;re another brutal fragger, and in my division. Clearly my hands are full. Fortunately, I don&#039;t know a runner you can draft at this point that I won&#039;t have handled, but that&#039;s why they play the game. Go ahead, impress me. : )<br /><br />[B]Jenova:[/B]<br /><br />It&#039;s clear from last season that you&#039;re legit enough to make any team work, as long as your teammates can hold down the flag once a century. There are players out there like that for you even at this point, and I think you know who they are. And if you do, you can pick them back to back. I hate you.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3024, 343, 14, 1292435352, 35, 3024, 'Re: New IDL Maps', 'Whiteboy567', 'whiteboy567@msn.com', '99.240.85.23', 1, 0, '', '/backseat modding/ Wrong forum section douchebag! /backseat modding/', 'xx', 1);
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	(3025, 339, 14, 1292441475, 19, 3025, 'Re: Winter 2011 Draft Discussion', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.7.88', 1, 0, '', 'Mike made me click the new reply button but I&#039;m not doing speculation this season because I&#039;m playing Blood goodbye<br /><br />amateurs', 'xx', 1);
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	(3026, 339, 14, 1292442277, 10, 3026, 'Re: Winter 2011 Draft Discussion', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'Ralphis&#039; Draft Speculation:<br /><br />I win', 'xx', 1);
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	(3207, 368, 5, 1294708497, 10, 3207, 'This forum is useless', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'Read topic', 'xx', 1);
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	(3029, 344, 14, 1292474921, 69, 3029, 'Re: Winter 2010 Draft Results', 'Goatface', 'roger.banango@gmail.com', '129.101.18.200', 1, 0, '', 'I traded Star and Dr_Noob to Russ for Saber and Mid.&nbsp; This has been controversial to say the least, but it&#039;s a good trade.&nbsp; Dr_Noob could have a breakout season and TKV could end up dominating, but I wanted the balance and stability of a good lineup instead of relying on just one player(Star) week to week.&nbsp; I wish TKV well and expect to be a top team this season.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3030, 345, 14, 1292477171, 19, 3030, 'Winter 2010 Post-Draft Discussion &amp; Debate', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.7.88', 1, 0, '', 'Go.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3352, 378, 14, 1296770402, 19, 3352, 'Re: Week 5 (Jan 31 - Feb 6) : THIRTY431 (MAP31) - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.1.67', 1, 0, '', 'I ran into a combative group of penguins involved in a brain-stealing operation, so time is short and therefore so will be predictions!<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[center][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/mysh1.png[/img][/center]<br />Nostar&#039;s D is pretty good, but Tai&#039;s is better on this map and Whiteboy is probably looking to stack on another win. [b]Browns power their way to a win.[/b]<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[center][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Zl3g7.png[/img][/center]<br />Send your well wishes to one of the victims of aforementioned penguin gang, I personally want to extend my deepest condolences to RosKing and wish him a speedy recovery. Without their captain&#039;s tactical brilliance [b]I can&#039;t see the Raiders not winning this week.[/b]<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[center][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/5Xlrp.png[/img][/center]<br />I think SXP came out majorly ahead in the recent trade of Dew for Reckless, and this will solidify a powerful lineup to help the Panthers begin their comeback halfway through the season! Seems to me [b]the Panthers narrowly defeat the Eagles.[/b]<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[center][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/p73G0.png[/img][/center]<br />Blowout. [b]Niners add another number to their win tally.[/b]<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[center][img]http://i.imgur.com/CxEmR.png[/img][/center]<br />[center][img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/030211/1296770249.gif[/img][img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/030211/1296770249.gif[/img][img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/030211/1296770249.gif[/img][img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/030211/1296770249.gif[/img][img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/030211/1296770249.gif[/img][img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/030211/1296770249.gif[/img][img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/030211/1296770249.gif[/img][img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/030211/1296770249.gif[/img][img]http://www.upload3r.com/serve/030211/1296770249.gif[/img][/center]<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[center][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/S3uf1.png[/img][/center]<br />Game of the week, mad hype, 4-0 vs 4-0! Who will win? Will the Charger&#039;s acquisition of Dew help steal flags from the frag-stacked Packers on perhaps the most frag-heavy map in the IDL map pool? Will Jenova be able to successfully punch through the Chargers&#039; line of defense and prove he&#039;s the top runner in the league? [b]Tune in to the next exciting episode of International Doom League Zeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee[/b]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3594, 398, 14, 1298959895, 163, 3594, 'That time of year again..', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.34.210.163', 1, 0, '', 'Ladies and gentlemen, with the end of the regular season approaching, it&#039;s time to start debating! With one of the more memorable seasons in the history of IDL, there are plenty of topics to debate and awards to be decided. I know, the decision of who wins what award is not up to the general public. We will decide the all-star voting though! So, I&#039;m going to present a few awards/topics to debate and you guys state your opinion!<br /><br />1. Rookie of the year:<br /><br />This one will really come down to about 3 people in my opinion. Don&#039;t base this on individual stats alone, some rooks have been huge for their teams but it doesn&#039;t show on the stat-sheet. Don&#039;t assume flag-runner either, sometimes a much needed ssg and ability on that end can make just as big a difference!<br /><br />2. Captain of the year:<br /><br />This one, I feel, could be a very good debate. You could go the surprising route with new caps such as Strangle and myself guiding our teams to the post-season when nobody expected it. You could go with Jenova who is currently battling for the #1 seed in the WDC when nobody expected BSK to be this good. We all expected BSK to be good, but not #1 team worthy-discussion good. You could go with Ralph, who always produces winning teams no matter what. The longevity of success and constant master-bowl contending teams is something worth considering in my opinion. <br /><br />3. Comeback player of the year:<br /><br />This one is broad spectrum really. This doesn&#039;t necessarily mean the said player has come back from inactivity to do well, I would label this as someone having a strong season when they&#039;ve been not-so-stellar in the past. One fair example of this is RottKing, even though he has contributed to winning teams in the past, he&#039;s been a key role in BSK&#039;s success this season. He&#039;s playing very well and it&#039;s something I&#039;d consider honestly. There are others to consider as well, I figured the RottKing argument was a good example of how to view this!<br /><br />4. Most underrated player:<br /><br />Pretty much speaks for itself.<br /><br />5. Most Valuable player:<br /><br />Once again, it speaks for itself. <br /><br />As noted above, some of these are decided by the board but I thought it&#039;d be cool to get some fan/player opinions on it and get some healthy discussion going! Go for it!', 'xx', 1);
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	(3756, 410, 14, 1300230606, 205, 3756, 'Re: Free wins....', 'STINKBOMB', 'vandergriftmachine@gmail.com', '99.40.109.232', 1, 1300231828, 'STINKBOMB', 'Beat to the punch line.Sticky above please.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3892, 414, 1, 1301626748, 15, 3892, 'Re: EVERYONE NEEDS A GHASTLY FUSION NOW!!!!', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.90.44', 1, 0, '', 'WTF gilga stole mine!!!!', 'xx', 1);
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	(6935, 669, 23, 1338260824, 37, 6935, 'Re: Green Division Results &amp; Demos', 'Tony', 'red.doomer@gmail.com', '99.100.236.234', 1, 0, '', '[b]Game 5- [UD]Climhazzard vs Majik[/b]<br /><br />Game 1: exposed.wad<br />Winner: [UD]Climhazzard<br />Score: 50-29<br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/7NUxV.png[/img]<br />Demo: http://tonyweed.com/mac2012/game5/Odamex_DUEL_20120528_224214_EXPOSED.WAD_map01.odd<br /><br />Game 2: dwango5.wad<br />Winner: [UD]Climhazzard<br />Score: 50-16<br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/kEMWh.png[/img]<br />Demo: http://tonyweed.com/mac2012/game5/Odamex_DUEL_20120528_225120_DWANGO5.WAD_map01.odd', 'xx', 1);
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	(8001, 774, 25, 1355973325, 213, 8001, 'Re: Meet the Free Agents . . .', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '97.92.40.97', 1, 0, '', 'That WhiteKnight chaingun.&nbsp; That RJY chaingun.&nbsp; That Var chaingun.', 'xx', 1);
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	(7410, 716, 17, 1346531102, 2174, 7410, 'Re: SECOND SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'Decay`', 'systemdecay@hotmail.ca', '99.254.81.77', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Ru5tK1ng link=topic=716.msg7320#msg7320 date=1345437054]<br /><br />[b]What rules do I have to follow?[/b]<br /><br />[u]Maps must be an original work[/u]. Maps that are submitted must not exist in any published project whether it be a beta or final. The only exception is if the map has a considerable amount of rework to the point where it is nearly completely different. I will be the judge of the amount of difference. Authors must notify me if they are using [b]their[/b] existing work as a base to start from. If you do not tell me, I will nuke your map. Just make it easier and start from scratch.<br /><br />[/quote][quote author=FrankTheTank link=topic=716.msg7406#msg7406 date=1346514612]<br />A few others and I have a bunch of maps we would like to submit.&nbsp; It&#039;s all in one wad to make downloading easier.<br /><br />MAP33 - Tosen<br />MAP34 - Catastrophe<br />MAP35 - Catastrophe<br />MAP36 - Frank<br />MAP37 - Frank<br />MAP38 - Catastrophe<br />MAP39 - Catastrophe<br /><br />http://www.speedyshare.com/3EbXQ/idlsubmiss-Blue-Tosen-Frank-v1.wad<br />(or if that doesn&#039;t work http://www26.zippyshare.com/v/16295392/file.html)<br />[/quote]<br />Did you really just submit [url=http://forums.zdaemon.org/viewtopic.php?t=14817]this?[/url] I&#039;m not sure if that&#039;s sheer stupidity or pathetic.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4330, 462, 18, 1310921953, 16, 4330, 'Re: Week 6 (Jul 11 - Jul 17) : ZDU10: Compatible Mainframe - Discussion and Results', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '99.61.108.144', 1, 0, '', 'Dat bark.&nbsp; &gt;:(', 'xx', 1);
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	(3208, 361, 14, 1294731716, 163, 3208, 'Re: Who will be rookie of the year (season)?', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.50.8.6', 1, 0, '', 'Co-rookies of the year in RustInPeace and Higgs', 'xx', 1);
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	(3353, 378, 14, 1296778863, 16, 3353, 'Re: Week 5 (Jan 31 - Feb 6) : THIRTY431 (MAP31) - Discussion and Results', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '149.152.191.3', 1, 0, '', 'KIRBY KIRBY KIRBY<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(3757, 411, 14, 1300235106, 49, 3757, 'Re: Season 9 / Winter 2011 Playoffs: The Semifinal Round - Discussion and Results', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '216.164.140.107', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Xenaero link=topic=411.msg3755#msg3755 date=1300229188]<br />Here we are, at the Conference Championship, or as [b]Blair[/b] would call them, the Masterbowl Semifinals. Good thing for us Blair is not playing or making this post!<br />[/quote]Hey I didn&#039;t call them the IDC/WDC quarterfinals, when they were clearly semis.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3595, 396, 1, 1298960519, 16, 3595, 'Re: ALL FACEBOOK USERS: HELP!', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '149.152.191.3', 1, 0, '', 'I couldn&#039;t hear most of what he said after &quot;Now this part is crucial&quot;. Mind telling me what he said?', 'xx', 1);
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	(3700, 402, 14, 1299650695, 214, 3700, 'Re: A general response to server lag', 'RustInPeace', 'sindeception@yahoo.com', '70.242.0.251', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Hatred link=topic=402.msg3699#msg3699 date=1299648586]<br />Solution: zdhook<br />[/quote]<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5lXWZb315U', 'xx', 1);
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	(3893, 418, 14, 1301629620, 1328, 3893, 'Re: I won IDL again', 'Mobius', 'hustler_0ne@hotmail.com', '69.126.162.4', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Jenova link=topic=418.msg3885#msg3885 date=1301543653]<br />Wtf is losing?<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGXzlRoNtHU<br /><br />I&#039;m the best.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />The marquee didn&#039;t change, no site changes, no results posted, and this forum went silent now. I think you broke the IDL Jen.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4133, 442, 16, 1306790091, 38, 4133, 'Re: A Post About Trading That You Should Read', 'Sabertooth', 'ssj4chazou@hotmail.com', '208.110.243.116', 1, 0, '', 'I was leaning more toward, because you&#039;re not worth anything to anyone. Except me of course, but I&#039;m not a captain.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4616, 494, 17, 1313964981, 16, 4616, 'Re: Booting out unwanted maps.', 'Tai', 'Tai223236@yahoo.com', '76.118.152.96', 1, 0, '', 'Whoever wants Map14 gone is a fucking baby.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6108, 598, 21, 1327796334, 75, 6601, 'IDL-R Priv Results', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '178.209.142.37', 1, 1333224045, 'HumanBones', '[b]Date:[/b] 12/01/27<br />[b]Server:[/b] Total Trash Chicago<br />[b]Admin:[/b] dew<br /><br />================<br /><br />[b][i]round 01[/i][/b]<br />Map: map19 (idlcomp20)<br />Team Red: OurHero (c), Strangle, ThatsJustPrime<br />Team Blue: Cecil, Collision, KillingBlair (sub: Mass)<br />Result: 5 - 3<br />Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/vaq8N.png<br /><br />[b][i]round 02[/i][/b]<br />Map: map04 (zd04)<br />Team Red: majik (c), OurHero, Cecil<br />Team Blue: SoulSucka (c), ThatsJustPrime, Collision<br />Result: 4 - 5<br />Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/eNdEb.png<br /><br />[b][i]round 03[/i][/b]<br />Map: map32 (zdu34)<br />Team Red: Cecil (c), OurHero, SoulSucka<br />Team Blue: Mass (c), Junior, Spider<br />Result: 5 - 2<br />Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/ebmvD.png<br /><br />[b][i]round 04[/i][/b]<br />Map: map17 (34-4-17)<br />Team Red: Junior (c), Null, Spider<br />Team Blue: OurHero (c), Cecil, SoulSucka<br />Result: 0 - 5<br />Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/if7ms.png<br /><br />[b][i]round 05[/i][/b]<br />Map: map26 (zd26)<br />Team Red: Null (c), OurHero, Nosturi<br />Team Blue: SoulSucka (c), Cecil, dew<br />Result: 3 - 4<br />Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/IbWLM.png<br /><br />[b][i]round 06[/i][/b]<br />Map: map31 (34-4-31)<br />Team Red: LordBritish (c), SoulSucka, Spider <br />Team Blue: Nosturi (c), Cecil, OurHero<br />Result: 1 - 5<br />Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/D3wcb.png<br /><br />[b][i]round 07[/i][/b]<br />Map: map20 (zde01)<br />Team Red: SoulSucka (c), OurHero, Cecil (sub: dew)<br />Team Blue: Spider (c), Tai, Nosturi<br />Result: 5 - 3<br />Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/L1E2n.png<br /><br />The subs in rounds 1 and 7 came late into the match, so I will count them towards the original players.<br /><br /><br />player: wins (cap wins) - losses (cap losses) - ties (cap ties)<br /><br />[b]Cecil[/b]: 5 (1) - 2 (1) - 0<br />Collision: 1 - 1 - 0<br />dew: 1 - 0 - 0<br />Junior: 0 - 2 (1) - 0<br />KillingBlair: 0 - 1 - 0<br />LordBritish: 0 - 1 (1) - 0<br />[b]majik[/b]: 0 - 1 (1) - 0<br />Mass: 0 - 1 (1) - 0<br />Nosturi: 1 (1) - 2 - 0<br />Null: 0 - 2 (1) - 0<br />[b]OurHero[/b]: 5 (2) - 2 - 0<br />[b]SoulSucka[/b]: 5 (3) - 1 - 0<br />[b]Spider[/b]: 0 - 4 (1) - 0<br />strangle: 1 - 0 - 0<br />Tai: 0 - 1 - 0<br />ThatsJustPrime: 2 - 0 - 0', 'xx', 1);
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	(4667, 494, 17, 1314822302, 3, 4667, 'Re: Booting out unwanted maps.', 'Joshsmith', 'tonihawker666@yahoo.com', '99.9.212.71', 1, 1314822452, 'Joshsmith', 'map01 - ZDCTF01 keep<br />map02 - ODACTF02 out<br />map03 - ZDCTF03 keep<br />map04 - ZDCTF04 keep<br />map05 - CC01 keep<br />map06 - MADCTF11 out<br />map07 - ZDCTF07 keep<br />map08 - ZDCTF08 keep<br />map09 - ZDCTF09 keep<br />map10 - ZDU10 out<br />map11 - ZDCTF11 keep<br />map12 - THIRTY4-16 keep<br />map13 - THIRTY4-13 keep<br />map14 - THIRTY4-09 out<br />map15 - ZDCTF15 keep<br />map16 - ZDCTF16 keep<br />map17 - THIRTY4-17 keep<br />map18 - ZDCTF18 keep<br />map19 - ZDCTF19 keep<br />map20 - ZDECTF2-01 keep<br />map21 - REAKUCTF01 out<br />map22 - THIRTY7-22 keep<br />map23 - ZDU08 maybe (not played much but I like it)<br />map24 - CC07 out<br />map25 - ZDCTF25 out<br />map26 - ZDCTF26 keep<br />map27 - ZDCTF27 keep<br />map28 - CC11 keep (controversial)<br />map29 - ZDECTF2-19 keep<br />map30 - ZDU30 out (I&#039;d say keep/maybe for its uniqueness but it could be done better)<br />map31 - THIRTY4-31 keep<br />map32 - THIRTY7-27 maybe<br /><br />I have a lot of keeps as you can see. The reason for this is mostly because they have become standard classics over the years, and like Star said a lot of maps people hate are just because they&#039;re not of the norm. I think it is critical for IDL to always have mixed maps as some maps may cater to player styles more than others. Someone may have great aim but they could rely on it too much and have their brains scrambled on a more complex map. Just because a map is different doesn&#039;t mean that it&#039;s good though, so maps like 14 need to go.<br /><br />This post is very poorly written but I&#039;m just trying to throw some of my ideas and views out there. Also I know you didn&#039;t want a list but it still gives a player&#039;s view.<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(5811, 572, 18, 1325653221, 8, 5811, 'W2012 Week 1 Gametimes', 'HumanBones', 'humanbones@intldoomleague.org', '108.7.78.21', 1, 0, '', 'Due to a minor issue, the Schedule page is only showing the day that all the matches are scheduled for, and not the time. Until Ladna the slave can fix this issue, might as well post the times here! <br /><br />MAD vs KNF: Thursday @ 8pm EST<br />PBH vs KGB: Friday @ 8pm EST<br />PDU vs SUC: Saturday @ 7:30pm EST<br />TCB vs BBC: Saturday @ 10pm EST<br />CTB vs RRS: Sunday @ 6pm EST<br />SGS vs WAD: Sunday @ 8pm EST', 'xx', 1);
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	(4723, 483, 16, 1315435623, 209, 4723, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'AlexMax', 'alexmax2742@gmail.com', '174.108.2.107', 1, 1315435839, 'AlexMax', 'WHAT THE SHIT MAP19 IS LITERALLY KILLING ME!<br /><br />http://imgur.com/PLYrj<br /><br />also MAP23 has magical vanishing potions on Skulltag.<br /><br />http://imgur.com/sEpBe', 'xx', 1);
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	(4377, 450, 3, 1311895688, 0, 4377, 'Re: Double Domination (DDOM): The Future', 'Fastidious', '', '76.224.7.105', 1, 0, '', 'DDOM seems alright, haven&#039;t played it much.&nbsp; The couple maps I played didn&#039;t seem that great.&nbsp; I&#039;m not a fan of having to randomly pick between two sides of the map to run at.&nbsp; I guess with good team play it&#039;d work in competition but in public it&#039;s often total guess which way to go.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6936, 671, 22, 1338327763, 267, 6936, 'Re: S2012 Invite List', 'RecKle$$_', 'Aesthesic@hotmail.com', '189.135.83.149', 1, 0, '', 'im gonna have to Decline guys sorry :(', 'xx', 1);
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	(8180, 798, 3, 1359040911, 3579, 8180, 'Re: Hello', 'ModeneseAdriano', 'modeneseadriano@hotmail.it', '87.6.82.63', 1, 0, '', 'welcum :D', 'xx', 1);
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	(8707, 859, 17, 1363227220, 19, 8707, 'Re: IDL Port Preference Poll', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '184.1.248.204', 1, 0, '', '<br />Eagerly awaiting my fellow 1.08 supporters.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8747, 861, 25, 1363791215, 145, 8747, 'Re: Season 13 / Winter 2013 - MASTERBOWL XIII - Discussion and Results', 'Fluffles', 'petefredericknewton@hotmail.co.uk', '81.159.143.57', 1, 0, '', 'suc will win because bsk members will just start getting the urge to fuck eachother during the match while watching ralphis eat hotdogs', 'xx', 1);
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	(3209, 368, 5, 1294747438, 75, 3209, 'Re: This forum is useless', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.180.128', 1, 0, '', 'lies! it is a placeholder for achievements announcement.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3354, 378, 14, 1296782187, 15, 3354, 'Re: Week 5 (Jan 31 - Feb 6) : THIRTY431 (MAP31) - Discussion and Results', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.91.114', 1, 0, '', 'NOOOOO XEN NOOOOOOOO', 'xx', 1);
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	(3755, 411, 14, 1300229188, 19, 3757, 'Season 9 / Winter 2011 Playoffs: The Semifinal Round - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.249.152', 1, 1300237698, 'Xenaero', '[center][b][size=5]Official Servers for The Semifinals Round of IDL Winter 2011[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League SUC Homefield - MAP28 #1][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11022[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League BSK Homefield - MAP04 #1][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11023[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League SUC Homefield - MAP28 #2][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11024[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League BSK Homefield - MAP04 #2][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11025[/b]<br /><br />=======================================================<br /><br />[url=http://i.imgur.com/RiQdp.png][img]http://i.imgur.com/Vb5yB.png[/img]<br />[b]Click here[/b] (or on the image) to see the full size brackets.[/url]<br /><br />=======================================================<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/a1zk5.png[/img]<br />Here we are, at the Conference Championship, or as [b]Blair[/b] would call them, the Masterbowl Semifinals. Good thing for us Blair is not playing or making this post! Things look dire for the Vikings. Their play did not seem strong on the Chargers&#039; homefield, while last week the Chargers barely edged out the Bills in perhaps the most intense wildcard fight in the leagues&#039; history. Will the Vikings take it one step further and upset the powerful #1 team this season?<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/vBtlp.png[/img]<br />Why did the Packers pick map04? Perhaps it was to intimidate the #2 seed they now face in their conference. It is likely, however, that they intend to drive frustrations through the roof as everyone crashes upon map change.<br /><br />=======================================================[/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3596, 398, 14, 1298961498, 163, 3596, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.34.210.163', 1, 0, '', 'Rookie of the year:<br /><br />As I stated in my initial post, this one comes down to three players. The three I&#039;d consider for this are Higgs, RustInPeace and turska. All 3 have been significant contributors to their teams and could easily be out of contention for the play-offs without them. While I believe turska has been very good, it&#039;s just hard to elect someone who hasn&#039;t played in every single match for their team. What he has done is very impressive but I think that counts for something, whether it was a team decision or not. Higgs has been very good for us and his offense and FPS-smarts have provided us with a much-needed spark at times. He&#039;s also very involved with strategy developing and that also makes a difference. He has improved as time has gone on but it&#039;s one of those things where the sky is the limit for him if he continues to play. Rust is also in the same boat, he&#039;s always helped with strat (I should note we do as a team mostly) and his defense and versatility has been a big factor for our teams mild success thus far. Even still, the other thing I factor into this is that Rust and turska have been playing ZDaemon for a long time, Higgs hasn&#039;t. So even though they are rookies to IDL, they are not rookies to doom. Higgs has played some in the past, but nothing near this competitive with this much talent. That is why my vote for Rookie of the Year goes to him<br /><br />Vote: Higgs<br /><br />2. I won&#039;t toot my own horn here. I&#039;m usually not that type. Even though we&#039;ve had some success, it hasn&#039;t been all me. I drafted two high IQ guys in higgs and Rust and even though they might not have the abilities of a Whiteboy or Ralphis, they&#039;re smart enough and do everything well enough to get it done at high levels. Strangle is certainly up for this but it&#039;s hard to vote for him considering he hasn&#039;t played in every game either. His team has been very successful and you have to credit him for knowing how to at least build a team with the picks available to him. Still though, mike is usually the one who thinks up their plans and he&#039;s the reason why they&#039;re mostly playing much better now as opposed to how they&#039;ve played in the past. So, for me, I scratch out Strangle on this one. Jenova is also a very interesting, dark-horse candidate. Jenova has possibly begun a dynasty in the making for himself and the Pack. Last season, BSK was much more talented. Even though he has good players in Rott and Dev, I wasn&#039;t sure how that duo would work out. Rott has struggled on D the last few seasons and Dev is good, but I&#039;m not sure he was d material either. Dev&#039;s mid has been good and he&#039;s obviously a high-IQ player. RottKing has been the X-factor, he&#039;s played much better on defense and Jenova&#039;s great running ability has given this team a swagger that sort of resembles the BSK of last season. Next up is Ralphis. Ralph has been doing this for a long time. He&#039;s kind of bald, but the guy wins man. It doesn&#039;t matter where he picks, who he picks -- the guy just wins. This season, SUC has been one of the best teams in the league. Josh is the x-factor, if he&#039;s focused and committed, SUC is arguably the best team in the league. If not, depending on who they play, they could be eliminated in the first round. Even still, that&#039;s where you have to credit Ralph for being able to take the risk of drafting him and knowing it. Even without him, they&#039;ve still been very competitive and they could finish with the leagues best record. The longevity and commitment, to me, symbolize what this league is all about. So that&#039;s why Ralph is the winner here.<br /><br />Vote: Ralphis<br /><br />3. Comeback player of the year:<br /><br />Two guys come to mind here, both of whom are on Jenova&#039;s Packers. As I stated in my original post, RottKing has been ballin&#039; his season. Some of the younger guys to the league or ZD don&#039;t really know what Rott used to be. This guy was a freak. A total walking frag-fest, killing shit right and left. The last few seasons though, he&#039;s struggled and has been a huge exploit for the teams he&#039;s been on. That has simply not been the case this season, the dude is playing like he&#039;s finally remembered how to play DooM. Kudos to Rott. Dev is the other one, who took last season off. DevastatioN was on an IDC team in the browns who made the conf. finals two seasons ago and he was a big reason why. Once again, Dev has been a key-contributor to a winning team. He doesn&#039;t always blow you away with flare or beautiful, graceful play, but the guy knows how to get it done. He&#039;s one of the top 5 DooMers of all the time and he&#039;s proven no matter where he goes, the guy wins. Who knows what he could have done or what history could have changed had he played last season. But, I&#039;m afraid I have to snub my friend on this one and give it to Rott. He&#039;s been too good for me not to.<br /><br />Vote: RottKing<br /><br />4. Most underrated player:<br /><br />To me, I have to give this one to my boy Gilga. Rust is in consideration too, but he&#039;s been nominated for one category already and I think it&#039;s gotten to the point where people understand that Rust is no laughing matter. Gilga, on the other hand, has mostly been a defensive player in the past. Even then, most people don&#039;t really understand how good, or smart, he is and how essential he is to SUC&#039;s success. Gilga has become a very capable runner and still possesses the smarts and ability to defend at a high level in certain maps. It&#039;s hard to discredit others but he&#039;s just not someone talked about a bunch and I think it&#039;s a notice to be served that Gilga&#039;s here to represent the state of West Virginia in a masterbowl quest. You go, Gilga.<br /><br />Vote: Gilga<br /><br />5. Most Valuable player:<br /><br />Jenova. Hands down, friggin&#039; Jenova. The guy leads the league with 50 caps right now and has been great ever since he started playing in the IDL. I think it&#039;s time we start really recognizing this dude as possibly one of the best, if not the best, flag-runners in DooM. He also has a very deceptive ability to frag. He may be an arrogant jerk at times, but if you don&#039;t like it, rock his shit and shut him up. If not, then at least have the decency to respect great skill when you see it. I live close enough to carbomb his house, so I&#039;m not worried about anything he says!&nbsp; ', 'xx', 1);
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	(3894, 418, 14, 1301630139, 69, 3894, 'Re: I won IDL again', 'Goatface', 'roger.banango@gmail.com', '129.101.16.131', 1, 0, '', 'Nah we just got lazy, I&#039;ll fix the marquee', 'xx', 1);
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	(4027, 428, 1, 1305049946, 213, 4027, 'Re: Note of Resignation', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '69.160.204.4', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=RustInPeace link=topic=428.msg4018#msg4018 date=1304483308]The pre-draft panel should consist of beast, rus, highblair, dew, RottKing. Then all would be right in the world.<br />[/quote]<br />+1,000,000', 'xx', 1);
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	(4134, 442, 16, 1306799460, 19, 4134, 'Re: A Post About Trading That You Should Read', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.249.152', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://bathandbodyfind.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/th_Cry.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4255, 455, 16, 1309883165, 19, 4255, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.53.140.114', 1, 0, '', 'You idiots. I wanted to go this season without posting something in-depth. Now look what you&#039;ve done with your limited brain cells.<br /><br />[quote author=nostar link=topic=455.msg4252#msg4252 date=1309859848]<br />Just for clarity I will add that I agree this trade involved two &quot;transactions&quot;. I don&#039;t see much of a difference from the trade made the same evening including Mantis/Marax traded for dewww/MadV. Adding a team to the mix doesn&#039;t make it any different in my head. It&#039;s still two players leaving a team and two players joining.<br /><br />So no Ralph it&#039;s not an illegal trade. It&#039;s just something IDL has never seem before. And before you post some backwater unidoom.org rules here I would ask you to abide by the same rules that everybody in IDL sees on the homepage.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />What you said about it being no different than &quot;Mantis/Marax traded for dewww/MadV&quot; is incorrect, seeing as each team to team trade, [b]regardless of the number of players[/b] is listed as a [b]single trade[/b] in the book as it stands, so the trade in question seems to count as two since EBL is dealing with two separate teams. I&#039;m not sure how you came to the conclusion it&#039;s no different than two teams performing a traditional trade.<br /><br />Every trade has been listed so far as a single entry due to the fact that one team will trade with one other team, number of players being traded notwithstanding. If you go by the [b]entries[/b] in the book by week for a specific team, EBL would have been unable to do this trade as per the IDL rules, which apparently backs up what Ralphis was saying.<br /><br />reference: Section 6 (&quot;Trading&quot;) of the IDL Rules Page (http://www.intldoomleague.org/rules), subsection 2 (&quot;Regular Season&quot;), bulletpoint 2, which reads: &quot;[i]Each team may only trade once a week.[/i]&quot;<br /><br />In the same section (&quot;Trading&quot;) it is made clear through term usage that a trade can involve players to and from teams and the Free Agency. The point of a trade not being defined [u]doesn&#039;t[/u] hold water, unless you desire a truly explicit definition of what a trade is, which in this instance would not help the case in any way, and under such terms is not the basis for a &#039;loophole&#039; as you describe. The argument is not valid. I would also like to note that the rules in a different section also specify that &quot;[i]Draft orders may not be traded.[/i]&quot;, further reinforcing the fact that YOU GET [b]NOTHING[/b], [i][b]YOU LOSE[/b][/i], [u][i][b]GOOD DAY SIR[/b][/i][/u].<br /><br />Wouldn&#039;t this have been nicer if an actual IDL board member did what I did? At least I care! Your interpretation of the rules may be different from mine, but I believe that said interpretation was objective and non-biased enough to stand ground. But who knows because apparently no one in the IDL board cares to clarify.<br /><br />Either way, should such a clarification happen you must also wonder if it would retroactive. Until this point it appears only the commissioner himself has the final word in the absence of the IDL board regarding the rules and what the trade is viewed to be, regardless of interpretations and arguments.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4331, 450, 3, 1310962770, 163, 4331, 'Re: Double Domination (DDOM): The Future', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.67.246.215', 1, 0, '', 'While I do enjoy the gamemode itself (I actually watched some demos of Kilgore in UT showing me how it works so I had some understanding of it prior to the release), I still think we&#039;re far off from running a league for it. Here&#039;s the real dilemma, there aren&#039;t really any solid map-packs out there (yet) that fully enhance the game. And with the IDL struggling to get people who actually who up for games and struggling to get tons of talent from season to season (i.e this seasons talent pool compared to last season&#039;s was a joke), I think we should probably shift out concern more towards fixing whats currently wrong with the IDL. It&#039;s a good idea Bones, I&#039;ll give you that but I think it shouldn&#039;t be on anybodies priorities at this point. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4365, 472, 17, 1311619066, 19, 4365, 'Re: IDL Teams', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.179.231', 1, 1311619282, 'Xenaero', 'I believe a scheduling change with an 8 team layout would be optimal for the league&#039;s future. Here&#039;s why.<br /><br />Essentially, everyone gets burned out near the end of the IDL regular season, 9 weeks is a really long time. This is actually a problem that threatens the future of the league and can force players away. By comparison... 7 weeks is a shorter timeframe and would reduce total season time from 12 weeks (9+wildcard, conf, mb) to 10! So how would you work it?<br /><br />With 8 teams, and 7 weeks, each team would play every other team exactly once before playoffs hit. This exists in modern sports as a round-robin type tournament. If possible, although I haven&#039;t looked at this particular aspect in a mock schedule yet, save the division games for the last week; week 7! Mad hype week that can make it or break it for teams in close contention. Not only that, but the importance is even greater in that final week due to the playoffs approaching, and all teams having solidified their ranks and players hopefully having chemistry, which could potentially make for the best, most hard-fought games of the regular season, which segue-ways right into the wildcard round! <br /><br />This would not only keep interest high as every game is vital for playoff standings, due to playing a round-robin style, but also prevent burnout settling in so quick much like we&#039;re seeing now and towards the end of previous seasons, which can guarantee players to return in the next season rather than looking and going &#039;Well damn, 9 weeks is a long time if I get landed with a bad team...&#039;, inversely, if you land a good team, you have to realize that even then you have to make every game count, keeping the intensity and importance of the competitive style that the IDL was founded upon.<br /><br />I see nothing but upsides to this!', 'xx', 1);
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	(3035, 345, 14, 1292512719, 267, 3035, 'Re: Winter 2010 Post-Draft Discussion &amp; Debate', 'RecKle$$_', 'darkstarskate_4@hotmail.com', '189.216.221.54', 1, 0, '', 'hey you guys on the &quot;noob league&quot; you gotta beat some idl team that would be $$$$ and by you guys i mean spreehawks team and by idl team i mean flag steelers team i know u guys can do this.<br />go spreehawks go !', 'xx', 1);
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	(4378, 472, 17, 1311897819, 147, 4378, 'Re: IDL Teams', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.35.212', 1, 0, '', '10 teams. 2 conferences, 5 teams per conference, divisions are abolished, top 2 teams from each conference make playoffs.&nbsp; each team plays 2 games against all 4 intraconference foes.&nbsp; at the beginning of each season, all 10 teams are randomly rearranged into their conferences.&nbsp; this removes interconference games (which have significantly less bearing on playoff seedings, thus are less important), and subsequently freshens up the league by giving tai and ralphis a chance to play against &quot;wdc teams&quot;, as they stand now', 'xx', 1);
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	(6109, 578, 20, 1327799347, 19, 6109, 'Re: The POWERHOUSE!! - Montreal''s IDL Set', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '76.4.117.175', 1, 0, '', 'passwords are the same as tt&#039;s, i had to update to password em because ladna&#039;s dumb stats program FLIPS OUT if a server has no password apparently<br /><br />fuckin goddamnit why pw unadvertised servs when the pw is obtained by the same community the ips are given to?!?!?111?!?///', 'xx', 1);
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	(6937, 671, 22, 1338328708, 75, 6948, 'Re: S2012 Invite List', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '178.209.142.37', 1, 1338751814, 'dew', '[s]i withdraw my confirmation. i can&#039;t really pretend i can stand jenova and his bunch of worshippers, sorry.[/s]<br /><br />with jenova not being a factor, i too am doing my part!<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMTz9nIUkGc', 'xx', 1);
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	(3210, 363, 14, 1294756172, 130, 3210, 'Re: Need an IDL correspondent for multiplayer news site', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.189', 1, 0, '', 'I vote Dewww. His ECDL write-ups were pretty funny and he is more cynical now.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3355, 348, 14, 1296782329, 10, 3355, 'Re: W2011 Free Agents - Trade History - Waiver Wire', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', '[b]Demonic Colts[/b]<br />Absence discharge on Shakal; Beast chosen from Free Agency (Week 5)', 'xx', 1);
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	(3758, 411, 14, 1300239199, 10, 3758, 'Re: Season 9 / Winter 2011 Playoffs: The Semifinal Round - Discussion and Results', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'They are Conference Championship games. A bigger deal than just the &quot;semifinals&quot; imo', 'xx', 1);
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	(3597, 398, 14, 1298962902, 15, 3597, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.91.246', 1, 0, '', '1.&nbsp; MassVC. - I just think Higgs running game lies heavily on the support of his team. I know I only played versus him on 31 which is kind of linear for runners, but I think Hatred&#039;s cover and fragging capabilities are what got higgs his caps.&nbsp; What I want to see are improved players, and players that really stand out on their team.&nbsp; I gotta give this to MassVC, he&#039;s improved a fuckton since joining the league, and I would like to see him come back next season.<br /><br />2. Hatred - I like what he did with his team, a very underrated team going in to the season.&nbsp; Though I never understood drafting metal...<br /><br />3. Xenaero - He doesn&#039;t let up, or get discouraged with his connection issues.&nbsp; He&#039;s been a work horse for me and our team.&nbsp; But I must add this, it has to go out to either rott or xen, whoever comes out of the WDC, and win the mb kuz WDC &gt; IDC.<br /><br />4. LordBritish - I drafted him so late I couldn&#039;t believe a solid runner like him lasted that far, that has got to mean something?&nbsp; Sitting 2nd in flag caps, and not even a runner full-time due to our team&#039;s connection gimpness. He fully deserves a title.<br /><br />5. Jenova - He just gets those flags.&nbsp; This is ctf, it&#039;s what is most important in this game.&nbsp; He&#039;s the [b]BEST[/b] at it!', 'xx', 1);
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	(3895, 419, 1, 1301633631, 214, 3895, 'Re: IDL style mapping contest?', 'RustInPeace', 'sindeception@yahoo.com', '65.68.73.143', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;m gonna have to finish that wad that I&#039;ve been working on, and off, for the past 5 years first.&nbsp; :)', 'xx', 1);
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	(4028, 433, 16, 1305055109, 213, 4028, 'The Draft', 'MassVC', 'vcmassvc@gmail.com', '69.160.204.4', 1, 0, '', '<br />If you didn&#039;t already sit at your computer and sadly calculate sesason strengths for four different teams with identical regular season records, and IF the draft order written in the rules is used for this season, which it may or may not be, then this will be the draft order for Summer 2011 (IRC me if you disagree):<br /><br />1. FLS Legion<br />2. DMR LordBritish<br />3. DMC Nautilus<br />4. SPE MassVC<br />5. SXP Humanbones<br />6. EBL Hatred<br />7. KGB Tai<br />8. TKV Rus<br />9. KNF Strangle<br />10. BBC Prime<br />11. SUC Ralphis<br />12. BSK Clim<br /><br />I do not want to discuss how this draft order will be selected, but how draft orders in general should be selected, and indeed which sort of draft should be used.<br /><br />&lt;WALL OF TEXT&gt;<br /><br />[b]Does the draft need to be revised?[/b]<br /><br />The fact that some people win, even that they win by a lot, and that some people lose, even by a lot, is not by itself a reason to revise the draft.&nbsp; It is the nature of competition that some people win and some people lose.<br /><br />However, at the outset of the last season, even before the draft, there were many who speculated that Goatface would not do so well, or that Ralphis and Jenova would do well, and they turned out to be correct.&nbsp; This is not a coincidence.&nbsp; It is because Ralphis and Jenova are very good players with respect to all the captains, and Goatface, with no offense to him personally, was less good than the rest of the captains. Captains, who usually play in their teams&#039; scheduled games, make up 1/3 of a given team&#039;s players.&nbsp; In ZDaemon CTF, whether this person is very good or less good makes a huge difference.&nbsp; (Even 5v5 priv games are easy to call for certain randcaps outcomes.)<br /><br />Supposing the draft is completely balanced, this means that Ralphis will have a higher chance of winning than Goatface in any season.&nbsp; Some people believe that this is how it should be--that better players should have a better chance at winning than worse players.&nbsp; But I think most people involved in the IDL believe that all players and teams should have a more or less equal chance of winning.&nbsp; Blowouts are not good competition; neck-and-neck struggles are good competition.&nbsp; So, if the draft favors some captains, the favor should be directed towards captains who are at a disadvantage so as to even things out.&nbsp; In an ideal league, the draft should be designed to perfectly compensate for the skill differences between the captains so that each captain predictively has a 50% chance of winning any game.<br /><br />Of course, an even better situation would be a league where all of the captains are of approximately the same skill level.&nbsp; This could either be all 3rds: Strangle, Prime, Xen, Dr_Noob, Goatface, Clim, Legion, OurHero, Beast, MadV, ReXn0r, and I (+10 others); or it could be all 1sts: Bones, Ralphis, Nostar, Hatred, Jenova, Whiteboy, Chaindude, Cha0tix (+net), Chewy, Stallion, Mikehail, and LordBritish (+10 others); but not a combination of the two.&nbsp; Since many of the former want to cap (and why shouldn&#039;t they), and many of the latter refuse to cap (and why shouldn&#039;t they), this can never happen.<br /><br />[b]If we keep the current draft system, how should pick orders be determined?[/b]<br /><br />Which draft pick is the best pick?&nbsp; There is a lot of debate and varying opinion on the matter, but it is certainly not clear that the first pick is the best pick.&nbsp; Which pick is the best pick depends on the captains--defenders would want to go early to pick runners, and runners would want to go late to pick two fraggers; in a league with very few first-teir players in free agency, everyone wants to go early so they can have at least one (source: Jenova and Hatred, #idl).&nbsp; If we took a poll (and we should), I think (based on over-hearing conversations) that the average most-desired spot would fall mid-to-late in the draft.<br /><br />So, it doesn&#039;t make sense that captains of the worst teams in previous seasons are given the first draft spot.&nbsp; I think a slightly better system would be to put the teams with the worst records last in the draft.<br /><br />[i]An even better system[/i] would be to let Legion choose his own draft spot, and then let the next in line pick, until Ralphis gets to choose between two spots, and the final captain&#039;s spot is the only one remaining.<br /><br />[b]How else could the draft go?[/b]<br /><br />One possible draft system would be to randomize pick order in every round.&nbsp; This even seems the most &quot;fair.&quot;&nbsp; The problem with this is that it is probable (79.86 % likely) that some teams will go early (in the first half) of every round, and this very well may be Hatred or Ralphis.<br /><br />For drafts that preserve order in a three-round system, there are four possible drafts:<br /><br />A &quot;snake draft,&quot; currently used by the IDL, changes draft order every round.&nbsp; This draft seems to favor A and disfavor C the least severely of the four drafts.&nbsp; But, as the discussion above points out (and because the third round is often a moot draft), it may in fact favor C over A.&nbsp; For three teams A, B, and C, the rounds would go like this:<br /><br />[i]1: ABC<br />2: CBA<br />3: ABC[/i]<br /><br />A &quot;straight draft&quot; has the same order in every round.&nbsp; This draft favors A and disfavors C the most severely.&nbsp; Notice that no reasonable argument could be made that this draft favors C over A.&nbsp; It goes like this:<br /><br />[i]1: ABC<br />2: ABC<br />3: ABC[/i]<br /><br />For the sake of middle ground and spanning possibility, Alternative Draft #1:<br /><br />[i]1: ABC<br />2: ABC<br />3: CBA[/i]<br /><br />^This draft still clearly favors A, although not as heavily as a straight draft.&nbsp; Alternative Draft #2:<br /><br />[i]1: ABC<br />2: CBA<br />3: CBA[/i]<br /><br />^This draft favors C at least more than the snake draft (and favors A at least less).<br /><br />These drafts compensate for captain skill level more or less.&nbsp; The order in which they compensate for skill level, from least compensation to most, goes:<br /><br />[i]Snake Draft<br />Alternative Draft #2<br />Alternative Draft #1<br />Straight Draft[/i]<br /><br />[b]Why should we consider different drafts?[/b]<br /><br />In my opinion, the current draft does not compensate strongly enough for captain skill level.&nbsp; I do not think any team drafted by Goatface can beat any team drafted by Ralphis under the current system.&nbsp; If both are allowed to be captains, then both should have an even shot at winning any given game, including the MB.<br /><br />I think a draft with stronger skill compensation should be used so that Goatface is favored and Ralphis is disfavored more severely.&nbsp; With the current spread in captain skill, I am personally in favor of a straight draft where teams with the lowest records go first and teams with the highest records go last.&nbsp; I think Goatface with 1 and 13 vs. Ralphis with 11 and 23 would be a fair match; Legion with 2 and 14 vs. Jenova&nbsp; with 12 and 24 would be a fair match.&nbsp; This is because Ralphis and Jenova are equivalent to 1-6 draft picks, while Legion and Goatface are equivalent to 18-24 draft picks.&nbsp; In this system, each team plays with approximately a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd (one of each).<br /><br />If not this, then I believe at least one of the Alternative Drafts should be used as a compromise.<br /><br />&lt;/WALL OF TEXT&gt;<br /><br /><br />I would like to know what people think about this because the decision is first of all up to the players and only second of all up to the board and the commissioner.<br /><br />...Hatred?', 'xx', 1);
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	(4332, 450, 3, 1310966905, 8, 4332, 'Re: Double Domination (DDOM): The Future', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '98.234.131.145', 1, 0, '', 'It&#039;s not going to happen anyway, because we can&#039;t get the server client in order to run 1.09. I&#039;m sure that ZDaemon will come up with another failed tournament for it though, and I would love to be proved wrong.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4617, 494, 17, 1313965726, 147, 4617, 'Re: Booting out unwanted maps.', 'LordBritish', 'a_west_2007@hotmail.com', '24.209.35.212', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=HumanBones link=topic=494.msg4614#msg4614 date=1313896850]<br />I&#039;ve played some pretty fun 3v3 Map16 games.[/quote]<br /><br />Agreed.&nbsp; THIS is a map that takes teamwork.<br /><br />[quote author=HumanBones link=topic=494.msg4614#msg4614 date=1313896850]I have never once had one enjoyable or mentally stimulating game on that map, so GET OUT OF THE WAD PLEASE.[/quote]<br /><br />http://www.intldoomleague.org/stats/games/168<br /><br />This was an awesome game, and basically a play-in for the playoffs.&nbsp; The amount of running tricks, and the dynamic concerning when to push/turret on D is pretty neat I think.<br /><br />[quote author=HumanBones link=topic=494.msg4614#msg4614 date=1313896850]It also doesn&#039;t seem to create that many 5-0 games[/quote]<br /><br />http://www.intldoomleague.org/stats/games/245 :)', 'xx', 1);
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	(4580, 483, 16, 1313468956, 209, 4580, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'AlexMax', 'alexmax2742@gmail.com', '174.108.2.107', 1, 0, '', 'here is a better contest compilation:<br /><br />http://files.funcrusherplus.net/wads/idlcon2011a.zip<br /><br />1. all music<br />2. all mapinfo with author names<br />3. a textfile<br />4. no dupes<br />5. minor modifications to both of my entries (one of them had no-multi flags checked for every thing&nbsp; :-[, the other entry got better music)<br /><br />so yeah use this, not josh&#039;s', 'xx', 1);
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	(5812, 554, 17, 1325719430, 30, 5812, 'Re: 26 people will not get on a team?', 'Beast', 'kjolly@uwm.edu', '24.209.160.160', 1, 0, '', 'I said a long time ago to add players to teams, some players are better on certain maps than others, gives the captain more options. <br /><br />Its backwards as fuck to tell ppl about the IDL, get more involvement, increase the player base. BTW good luck actually playing. I haven&#039;t played a season or two and I don&#039;t show up for many private games. When I first get back into playing I need a few pick-up games. After that i become a wicked sick floater, but I don&#039;t expect everyone to know that. Do I care slightly, I&#039;m not crying I actually hope to help some teams practice, and tonight I&#039;m throwing up some &#039;IDL&#039; servers. Maybe I&#039;ll get picked up later in the season, maybe I won&#039;t but at the end of the day players should be added to teams. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(3036, 346, 14, 1292516193, 20, 3036, 'Re: Winter 2011 Draft Recording', 'Mantis-X', 'nesman90@aol.com', '98.25.91.185', 1, 0, '', 'Good deal... was about to post mine, but this works... Thanks Roscoe&nbsp; ;D', 'xx', 1);
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	(5814, 567, 20, 1325813235, 19, 5814, 'Re: Week 1 (JAN 2 -  JAN 8) : ZDE19 (MAP29) - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '76.4.113.34', 1, 1325813391, 'Xenaero', '[18:03:22] * Doomguy666 (~Doomguy66@99.157.175.243) Quit (Ping timeout)<br />[18:04:35] * @_Xyltol_ (~Xyltol@adsl-99-157-175-243.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Ping timeout)<br /><br />We had to take Capodecima as our third using the new Free Agency rule that states we can loan players from the pool if we don&#039;t have a full team.<br /><br />GGs KNF!<br /><br />[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/SDpNw.png[/img]<br />[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/m2xck.png[/img]<br /><br />DEMO: http://xen.unidoom.org/doom/idl/IDLXI-Week1-MAD-vs-KNF-povXen.zip', 'xx', 1);
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	(7332, 715, 17, 1345475538, 19, 7332, 'Re: I''m banned', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '184.1.245.86', 1, 1345476073, 'Xenaero', '[quote author=Xyltol link=topic=715.msg7325#msg7325 date=1345451536]<br />Getting away with breaking any kind of rule to this extent (especially for such a period that Nostar did) shows negligence in the administrators and boards of the time; they obviously didn&#039;t do their jobs..so he abused it.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Nostar&#039;s a special case because he owned literally the entire IDL. He controlled the website, game servers, pretty much everything except the network of the IRC channel. I don&#039;t know where things stand now with hosting but I think that&#039;s something to be kept in mind. I think it&#039;s noteworthy to mention briefly that time when Nostar pulled everything (including website) from the servers. Who remembers that?<br /><br />[quote author=Xyltol link=topic=715.msg7325#msg7325 date=1345451536]Just to further this..Bones doesn&#039;t seem to mind going back on his word after talking with both captains in the event of a change (I suppose as Rust would say holds no merit anymore), as in DG&#039;s last season against Prime on map09 Bones let Xenaero control the entire team when DG/Bones/Prime agreed to postpone the match in the event that myself and DG could not make the game (which ended up happening), and Prime didn&#039;t agree to it when it was actually necessary..but Bones forced our team to play because Xenaero was willing to play &quot;with or without his team&quot;, while I was talking to Bones about the circumstances involved (which ended up costing us a loss on a game that should not have happened).<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I like how you shuffled the order of events. Neither you nor your brother showed up, we&#039;re waiting in a server. Bones is telling me not to play per a postpone agreement, meanwhile Prime is telling me directly in the server that he will make us forfeit if we don&#039;t play, hence me saying I will play with or without the team to avoid a forfeit. The circumstances didn&#039;t really matter per rules and regulations when the opposing captain with a full team is telling me to get my guys in here within five minutes or we&#039;re forfeiting.<br /><br />That and you shouldn&#039;t be all wrapped up about a loss. It&#039;s not something new when you and your brother are involved. At least your team is doing better now! Probably because you aren&#039;t on it, haha.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6938, 671, 22, 1338335869, 214, 6938, 'Re: S2012 Invite List', 'RustInPeace', 'sindeception@yahoo.com', '65.68.75.162', 1, 1338336239, 'RustInPeace', 'Actually, please come back dewww. You&#039;re the heart and soul of the league.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3356, 378, 14, 1296793640, 2, 3356, 'Re: Week 5 (Jan 31 - Feb 6) : THIRTY431 (MAP31) - Discussion and Results', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.41.134', 1, 0, '', 'GG&#039;s FLS :D It is too bad Killforce was lagging, I was dying to see the guy play :(<br /><br />[URL=http://img198.imageshack.us/i/ctf20110203201548.png/][IMG]http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8104/ctf20110203201548.png[/img][/URL]<br />[URL=http://img97.imageshack.us/i/ctf20110203202414.png/][IMG]http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/266/ctf20110203202414.png[/img][/URL]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4029, 433, 16, 1305066345, 2, 4029, 'Re: The Draft', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '71.217.43.153', 1, 1305066866, 'mikefails', 'ladna took over massvc&#039;s idl account and BAM!<br /><br />Additionally, I am not sure if you have seen the [url=http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?topic=266.0]statistics dump forum[/url] but I actually looked at something similar to this idea with the real #&#039;s for previous seasons (I haven&#039;t updated it with last season&#039;s results yet due to sloth) and some other cool stats, in case you wish to push further in this direction!', 'xx', 1);
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	(3896, 419, 1, 1301715683, 163, 3896, 'Re: IDL style mapping contest?', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.110.104.186', 1, 0, '', 'If it doesn&#039;t work out, I&#039;m sure there are a few mappers who can design a map or two and present their work to the board to be considered in future wads. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4256, 455, 16, 1309885040, 19, 4256, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.53.140.114', 1, 1309885391, 'Xenaero', '[quote][12:46:20] &lt;Xenaero&gt; dewww how about you go do something useful and call the board in for an emergency session ala congress to write up the definition of a trade<br />[12:47:19] &lt;@dewww&gt; xen, we have till next season to argue about it[/quote]<br /><br />Useless schmucks! Here let me fix this right up.<br /><br />--------------------------------------------<br /><br />[size=5]Trading[/size]<br /><br />[size=4]What is a trade?[/size]<br /><br />A trade is a single transaction between two teams in which any number players, equal in number on both sides, are exchanged between the agreeing captains. This transaction, pending passage of standing rules and approval of the Commissioner, will become valid and posted in the Trade History for that season as a single entry.<br /><br />[size=4]Preseason[/size]<br /><br />Trading during the preseason is unlimited<br /><br />[size=4]Regular Season[/size]<br /><br />Trading is allowed during the regular season up until Week 5 on Wednesday, 11:59:59pm, subject to the following:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]All trades must be commissioner approved and will be recorded publicly.[/li]<br />[li]Each team may only trade once a week.[/li]<br />[li]If two teams trade and neither has played their game, that trade becomes effective immediately for both teams. Otherwise the trade is not effective until Monday 12:00:00am of the next week.[/li]<br />[li]Trades made during Week 4 become effective Thursday 12:00:00am or until both teams have played their games, whichever is latest.[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />Note that dismissing a player and trading a player from free-agency constitutes one trade.<br /><br />----------<br /><br />Wasn&#039;t that easy? So easy. Easy-cheezy. [url=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0E5sY7uxci4/SXiO_iDdyyI/AAAAAAAAAdE/JjJYBxI1j-4/s400/easy+cheese.jpg]EZ-Cheez[/url].<br /><br />Oh yeah I guess it&#039;s invalid since I&#039;m not part of the governing body of Useless People Who Do Nothing but Whine About Other Players board. If you want another draft of the legislation for capability of 3-way trades you&#039;ll need to pay me a fine for all my hard work and slaving over the emergency draft of such a document. It&#039;s really rough to cram all of a month&#039;s work into an [s]hour[/s] [s]half-hour[/s] 10 minutes of writing!', 'xx', 1);
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	(6110, 136, 1, 1327809527, 19, 6110, 'Re: It''s coming', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '76.4.117.175', 1, 0, '', 'PRIV PLAYERS ARE UNCOACHABLE', 'xx', 1);
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	(3211, 365, 14, 1294762904, 10, 3242, 'Re: DEMO INFRACTION LISTING', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 1295020253, 'Ralphis', 'The following is the list of still missing demos from week 1. Please upload them as soon as possible or face penalties.<br /><br />[size=4][b]Week 1 Missing Demos:[/b][/size]<br />KGB: [color=red]Whiteboy[/color]<br />TKV: [color=red]RussianDumbass[/color]<br />DMR: -<br />DMC: [color=red]Caboose[/color]<br />SPE: -<br />SXP: -<br />FLS: -<br />KNF: -<br />EBL: -<br />BSK: -<br />SUC: -<br />BBC: -', 'xx', 1);
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	(6680, 622, 17, 1334764034, 1328, 6680, 'Re: Moving IDL to Odamex', 'Mobius', 'hustler_0ne@hotmail.com', '67.86.23.10', 1, 1334764272, 'Mobius', '[quote author=Ten link=topic=622.msg6671#msg6671 date=1334534517]<br />Aw Mobius is butthurt that the once-nobody Brazilian that he took in under his wing has surpassed him. You should be proud of Soul! And if anything I&#039;d be more surprised about the inclusion of X-Ray. While he&#039;s most definitely a skilled player, I don&#039;t see how he&#039;s very influential or notable in the community politics/activities, he doesn&#039;t really voice much of an opinion on stuff like this. Then again maybe skill is all it takes. *shrugs*<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Oh look who decides to crawl out of the hole to respond to me. Let me enlighten your stupid ass in a few things you got wrong here:<br /><br />First. I know Soul better than anyone here minus maybe Infer. I talk to him regularly outside of the Doom community and consider him a friend of mine. Why in the hell would I be even remotely upset that he has &#039;surpassed,&#039; me? I am not as petty as you are Mr. OHIHAVETOPOSTWHYICHEATTOGETBANNEDBECAUSEMYLIFESUCKSANDIWANTATTENTION.<br /><br />Speaking of surpass, what has he surpassed me in? I still beat him in duels and CTF on his own native port very recently. Soul may out manuerver or gun me, but he&#039;s no where NEAR as smart as I am and surprisingly that manages ALONE to compensate. There&#039;s a reason we call him, &quot;Tai Jr,&quot; when he was in A3 but I suppose you&#039;re still stuck in 2010 and don&#039;t know any better.<br /><br />The reason I even questioned Ralphis was because he mentioned actual notable players and lumped Soul in with them. I am sure Ralphis means well but I feel that he&#039;s only doing it because of the whole Odamex circle-jerk they seem to have going. Under my wing? I still help Soul any chance I get but not through some dumb apprentice-shit your melodramatic ass is describing. I actually talk with him and do what I can to aid him because I genuinely like Alan and care about him. My only gripe was that it&#039;s too soon for him to get a swollen head AGAIN and then he gets into a hyper crash of depression when he doesn&#039;t live up to his own expectations.<br /><br />But you wouldn&#039;t know any of this because you&#039;re stupid as fuck and a cheater. You&#039;re also a very bad player.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4135, 443, 18, 1306872157, 130, 4142, 'Re: Week 1 (Jun 6 - Jun 12) : ZDCTF26 (MAP 26) - Discussion and Results', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.4', 1, 1307127980, 'nostar', 'I like to predict. I predict Rus gets an erection reading this.<br /><br />[u][size=4]Super Chargers vs. Techno Vikings (CONF)[/size][/u]<br /><br />Rus has a surprisingly strong team. X-ray is becoming more and more dominant and Mr Pants is a lean mean scoring machine. On the other hand Ralph has two frag happy idiots who will make Turska&#039;s life very hard. I expect this one to be close but I&#039;m going to optimistically call this one for Rus and the Vikings.<br /><br />[b]TKV 2-1[/b]<br /><br />[u][size=4]Doom Raiders vs. Electric Bills (CONF)[/size][/u]<br /><br />This on the other hand...will not be close. Hatred will wet his own pants and Mantis will bitch about TT. <br /><br />[b]DMR 1000000-0[/b]<br /><br />[u][size=4]Demonic Colts vs. Killing Browns (CONF)[/size][/u]<br /><br />I don&#039;t care for either of these teams. Naut drafted a pretty thin team and Saber will have to carry the load, which he can do if his connection is decent. Tai finally has Bloodstike back, a relatively inactive player but good when he shows, and both of Tai&#039;s 3rds are new to IDL. I will give the edge to Tai because I think Nautilus is terrible and wants to lose.<br /><br />[b]KGB 2-0[/b]<br /><br />[size=4][u]Berserker Packers vs. Brokeback Cowboys (CONF)[/u][/size]<br /><br />I haven&#039;t really seen Gilgamesh much since before the draft so we will see how much he wants to show up for a less dominant team, if he is even able. Goat and Swift are both good 3rds but Gilga can only do one thing so that team is going to have holes. Prime&#039;s draft went extremely well. He has a very good defense in Stallion and a formidable offense in dew. All Prime has to do is help the right amount and his team will be rock solid.<br /><br />[b]BBC 2-0[/b]<br /><br />[u][size=4]Spread Eagles vs. Flag Steelers (CONF)[/size][/u]<br /><br />Mass has a very good team. Dr Noob is underrated, not because people don&#039;t think he&#039;s good, but because he&#039;s unbearable to be on a team with. Mike showed last season he can carry a team, and this season I believe he has a slightly better team, in a far weaker conference. FLS has chewy and that is about it. Their role players will have to really shine to win games but having the best zdaemon player on your team assures that games will be close. <br /><br />[b]SPE 2-0[/b]<br /><br />[u][size=4]Sexual Panthers vs. Fnordy Niners (CONF)[/size][/u]<br /><br />Gyross is crazy, Nosturi is pretty good and Strangle is so-so. That is a par team. Then again SXP has a weird team balance which will probably leave Bones playing D every map and a new guy playing mid/o. I&#039;m going to go out on a limb and say that KNF has a chance to win it and will make the most of that. <br /><br />[b]KNF 2-1[/b]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3212, 369, 14, 1294774787, 10, 3212, 'Week 2 (Jan 10 - Jan 16) : ZDU30 (MAP30) - Discussion and Results', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', '[center][b][size=5]Official Servers for Week 2 of IDL Winter 2011[/size][/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League Week 2 - MAP30 - A][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11022[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League Week 2 - MAP30 - B][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11023[/b]<br /><br />[color=red][International Doom League Week 2 - MAP30 - C][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11024[/b]<br /><br />[color=blue][International Doom League Week 2 - MAP30 - D][/color]<br />[b]66.225.231.106:11025[/b]<br /><br />=======================================================<br />[b]<br />Killing Browns vs. Electric Bills (DIV)<br /><br />Super Chargers vs. Doom Raiders (DIV)<br /><br />Berserker Packers vs. Spread Eagles (DIV)<br /><br />Brokeback Cowboys vs. Flag Steelers (DIV)<br /><br />Techno Vikings vs. Sexual Panthers<br /><br />Demonic Colts vs. Fnordy Niners[/b]<br /><br />=======================================================[/center]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3357, 378, 14, 1296794837, 49, 3357, 'Re: Week 5 (Jan 31 - Feb 6) : THIRTY431 (MAP31) - Discussion and Results', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '216.164.140.107', 1, 0, '', 'there was a hockey avatar trend and no one told me? for shame.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3759, 410, 14, 1300239274, 130, 3759, 'Re: Free wins....', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '38.109.187.5', 1, 1300239486, 'nostar', '[quote author=Jenova link=topic=410.msg3754#msg3754 date=1300225366]<br />Lol, talks about &quot;professionalism&quot; and &quot;serious leagues&quot; when the admins ban players so they themselves can watch games.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Correction: <br /><br />&quot;Lol, talks about &quot;professionalism&quot; and &quot;serious leagues&quot; when the admins ban [b]a player[/b]&quot;.<br /><br />And in all fairness I timed out and was in server before you. Also I dislike you. I was very much considering booting Stallion too so Ladna could watch. The point is there is nothing competitively unfair about choosing the people who get to watch an IDL game in a server I host. And to be honest if you cared about those kind of fringe benefits you wouldn&#039;t act like such a tool. Or maybe you&#039;re just dumb. That is probably it.<br /><br />Host servers, stop whining, grow a dick...BAWWWW<br /><br />On the beast post though I tend to agree with him. Admins who remove/lock topics or delete clearly non-troll posts do damage the competitive community. It would be very cool if more clans became active and played. I don&#039;t mind making a Clan section on the IDL forums for such flames to go on. Lately NS, UD and R have been playing and a bastardized version of SIN is lingering I hear.<br /><br />As for Stallion being the best defender. Sure, I wasn&#039;t really a defender so much this season. However when you compare your 1 masterbowl to my 3 you&#039;ll find that your dick shrinks. <br /><br />[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=410.msg3751#msg3751 date=1300218614]<br />This thread wasn&#039;t really directed at those who really put in the effort to keep this league going.&nbsp; Just nostar, I was just hoping he would lose again this post-season and run away from the league for another couple of months. It looks like I&#039;m going to have to wait another week for that to happen. :(<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I am one of the people who puts in effort to keep this league going. And it is nice to know that I am so important to you though. Strange, but nice. Some weird envious love perhaps?!<br /><br />OH and Tai, I wasn&#039;t saying you told Stall to post that. I know he&#039;s a jackass all on his own. I&#039;m just saying you say people troll a lot when they really aren&#039;t trolling, and that for reference&#039;s sake this was a good example.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3599, 398, 14, 1298984415, 75, 3599, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.180.128', 1, 0, '', '1- rookie of the season: MassVC<br /><br />no one really knew him, he went in round 3 and now he&#039;s the primary defender on a team with bones and blair. he&#039;s ranked 6th in frag ratio, only prime is a higher ranking rookie. mass also has a steep learning curve and the rest of sxp is getting comfier with every match as mass builds confidence holding the fort. he&#039;ll probably be an early round 2 pick next season if not better.<br /><br />higgs is an obvious contender, because he picked up doom literally just before the season started. his learning curve is insane, you have to respect how fast he got where he is, but i feel like he has it easier than mass. he just concentrates on bumrushing the flag and the team either has his back or not. i&#039;m not sure how firmly he truly grasps the flow of the game, because he has the least returns per round from the whole player pool. this tells me it&#039;s mostly an apprentice season for him, he wasn&#039;t thrown into cold water like mass was. prime and rust get a honourable mention, because they&#039;re producing similar numbers to mass&#039;, except rust lacks the true rookie aura and prime is a great def, but his team shines or falls with chain, not him. and hatred&#039;s right, turska shouldn&#039;t really get treated as a rookie. his whole &quot;rookie&quot; period lasted about as long as he was adjusting to high ping aiming. by the way, the only primary runner with more frags/round is blair, i&#039;m not kidding.<br /><br /><br />2- captain of the season: Hatred<br /><br />he has 2 rookies in his main lineup and he threw away his 2nd pick. ebl was supposed to be a trainwreck with a perfect zero season, yet they&#039;re fighting for #2-5 in idc. you have to respect how he rallied his team, how they train every week, how they produced a few awesome upsets. it&#039;s even more surprising when you consider that hatred isn&#039;t that used to highly organized ctf too. i mean he&#039;s one of the duel kings, but on paper he&#039;s one of the weaker captains when it comes to all the fancy ctf crap like flow and positioning and whatever. yo and he picked bosscoe, that&#039;s default win. perhaps he can claim the mb if he plays under &quot;hatred_brooks&quot;.<br /><br />contenders are obvious - ralphis, jenova, stallion. they are among the very best ctf players themselves and their teams are disgustingly strong. they&#039;re just doing what is expected and one of these guys will win the MB, which will be their consolation for not getting CotS.<br /><br /><br />3 - comeback player of the season: RottKing?<br /><br />this category is weird as ralph&#039;s music taste. i mean who even applies to it? just the guys who didn&#039;t play last season or even those who have a second spring after rough times?<br /><br />the former means either dev or gilga, both returned from a break and both are doing great on winning teams. gilga&#039;s team has a slightly better record, dev&#039;s team won h2h. dev&#039;s personal stats are stellar d numbers, gilga&#039;s seem average across all categories, which is logical given the various roles he was playing in different games. dev brings more to the table with his solo performance, gilga is a better team player. this is a dead race to me, tbh. playoffs will be the deciding factor.<br /><br />the &quot;reinvented&quot; category is p interesting. there&#039;s rott, who finally landed on a functional team so he can show off his immense all-around skill. he is the team glue that bridges the space between the two &quot;egotistical&quot; players in his team - jen the pure o, dev the pure turret. there is xen, who doesn&#039;t have to worry about captaining problems for once and can concentrate on his strong support game, which is especially impressive considering his laughable connection. and then there&#039;s blair, who got entirely reinvented as a ralphis-style flag enforcer and it seems to suit him just great.<br /><br />this category is more like a popularity contest, there&#039;s hardly an objective scale to compare these guys on. i guess i&#039;ll go with rott.<br /><br /><br />4 - most underrated player:<br /><br />there are two guys remaining with a perfect winning season. josh and our mystery guy. let&#039;s see a short round-wise PCT table:<br />BSK ... 74% (13-4-2)<br />ralph ... 74% (14-5-0)<br />gilga ... 78% (14-4-0)<br />josh ... 77% (10-3-0)<br />stall ... 71% (12-5-0)<br />lb ... 74% (14-5-0)<br />xen ... 81% (13-3-0)<br />??? ... 86% (6-1-0)<br /><br />guy is one of the sharpest fraggers of the season, yet he was drafted late in round 3. all of these achievements despite being a mexican. give MUP to reck and shut up.<br /><br /><br />5 - most valuable player: mikehail<br /><br />all that yapping about jen is true, he gets those flags and shit. but while he&#039;s enjoying that comfy zombie runner pos with his whole team backing him up, mike is carrying an average team on his back to an impressive reg season record. he&#039;s changing positions more often than a gangbang pornstar, because knf lineup changes with the weather. this is a change for mike, because he used to be in jen&#039;s shoes, but he stepped up to the challenge and he&#039;s having a huge season despite knf being such a weird team. i think only white and hatred are in a similar position and mike seems to be doing a better job. &quot;rott, don&#039;t touch the flag so i can hoard scores&quot; jenova, &quot;josh, defend with just rockets and i&#039;ll run backwards only&quot; ralphis and &quot;guys, should i let you have some flag drops?&quot; stall have great results, but they don&#039;t, like, stand out in their teams.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4257, 455, 16, 1309893867, 19, 4257, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.53.140.114', 1, 0, '', 'Oh by the way since I&#039;m the first person to put this down on record I think it should be noted it&#039;s [b]my[/b] idea to delete the &quot;Each team may only trade once a week.&quot; line and tweak some of the others to reflect the removal of such a requirement.<br /><br />I&#039;m that good + organized.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4030, 433, 16, 1305086543, 163, 4030, 'Re: The Draft', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.34.210.77', 1, 1305086810, 'Hatred', 'Yo MassVC, you know so much about me! I will attempt to not write an article here but there are a few things I want to say. There is no order to what I&#039;m discussing here, just whatever pops into my head first. So here we go, let&#039;s start with this...<br /><br /><br />[quote=&quot;MassVC&quot;]In my opinion, the current draft does not compensate strongly enough for captain skill level.&nbsp; I do not think any team drafted by Goatface can beat any team drafted by Ralphis under the current system. [/quote]<br /><br />While I respect Goatface for his dedication and commitment to this league, the reality is, there is no system that would be able to give any team with him an advantage over Ralph&#039;s team. Goat&#039;s connection isn&#039;t very good and quite frankly, Goat isn&#039;t that good. As you pointed out, a captain starting all of his games will make up 1/3 of his team and if 1/3 of the team isn&#039;t strong, it brings the entire team down. Goatface is a smart runner but isn&#039;t exactly the most explosive. He relies a ton on back-up, which means most of his teams offense will probably come from a 2o system - that is a shit ton to ask out of your defense. Especially when you consider that solo d will have to stop Ralphis and his maniac style of running. The reality is, if the player who is a captain isn&#039;t very good, his team probably won&#039;t be either, even if it&#039;s a team of whiteboy, stallion and goatface. That team will look good on paper, will put up a fight but because of goats inability to perform at a high level, the team will suffer for it - and let&#039;s face it, there&#039;s no way, shape or form you&#039;d ever get a team with whiteboy and Stall on it. <br /><br />Here&#039;s the real problem, and it&#039;s not the draft at all. No matter what draft system you put in place, bad players being captains will usually turn out to produce bad teams. Whereas good players taking command will generally produce good teams. Legion&#039;s dilemma will be simple: even with the 1st overall pick, he doesn&#039;t pick for a long fucking time. But even if you gave him 6 or 7, Legion still needs to play at a higher level to lead his team above .500. There&#039;s no two-ways around it, if one player on a 3 man team is bad, the entire team will suffer. That being said, if anyone who has been deemed a bad player has made a lot of progress, I think Legion has - but he still has a long way to go. <br /><br />This is precisely my point: when there is plenty of depth in a draft, there generally isn&#039;t a lot of separation. When there isn&#039;t, the teams with great captains generally dominate if they land themselves an ace or at least stay respectable even if they don&#039;t. Whereas with bad players being captains, draft&#039;s with a lot of depth make their teams a little better: I.e DMR of W2011 didn&#039;t go winless when they were expected to and were still a feisty group in most losses; whereas in a draft with not a ton of depth: summer 2010, DMR goes winless (partially because Goat drafted like a moron - but even still, he could have had the best draft he could have possibly had and it wouldn&#039;t have made a difference). What&#039;s the connection between the two? Both were teams that had #1 overall picks the last two season and that Summer 2010 had a very poor draft class whereas Winter2011 had a very strong one. Granted, Goat traded his #1 overall pick away, which in my mind isn&#039;t evidence against my point; I still believe he would have won a few by drafting Nostar and adding another strong ssg to his team. Nonetheless, you see my point. It all comes down to talent. If there&#039;s not a lot of it, most teams don&#039;t do well and the league looks like it&#039;s not very competitive. When there is, it&#039;s much more competitive and matches are much closer. A new draft system won&#039;t make Goatface better, Goatface practicing and working his ass off to become a better player will. And that applies to all of the bad players we currently have. <br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(4367, 473, 18, 1311694690, 19, 4367, 'Re: Week 8 (Jul 25 - Aug 1) : ZDCTF18: The Old Castle - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.179.231', 1, 0, '', 'Wow we actually might be able to play a game this month.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4581, 483, 16, 1313472750, 209, 4581, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'AlexMax', 'alexmax2742@gmail.com', '174.108.2.107', 1, 1313497912, 'AlexMax', 'also yeah i know map10 is not laid out even similarly to something epic 1 or 2.&nbsp; should i retexture it or something because i really like the layout and it might be easier to navigate with a different texture set.<br /><br />EDIT: http://imgur.com/qlaDt', 'xx', 1);
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	(4618, 491, 18, 1313973667, 216, 4618, 'Re: Season 10 / Summer 2011 Playoffs - Quarterfinal Round - Discussion and Results', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '65.92.127.51', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://i.imgur.com/CSbgX.png[/img]<br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/bIzRn.png[/img]<br /><br />Believe it or not, we actually got our game played!! It was an intense and a fun match. GGs SXP! ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4490, 487, 16, 1312653205, 216, 4490, 'Re: IDL SUMMER 2011 ALLSTAR SELECTION', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '67.68.35.162', 1, 0, '', '<br />INTERNATIONAL DOOM CONFERENCE<br />TurSKA<br />Ralphis<br />Xenaero<br />LordBritish<br />X-Ray<br /><br />WORLD DOOM CONFERENCE<br />HumanBones<br />ItalianStallion<br />PotentPotables<br />Gilgamesh<br />Legion', 'xx', 1);
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	(4676, 494, 17, 1315004087, 8, 4676, 'Re: Booting out unwanted maps.', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '98.234.131.145', 1, 0, '', 'Ahahaha you act like I&#039;m defending Hitler or something. I&#039;m sorry you disagree, but like always that doesn&#039;t mean you are right.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4724, 483, 16, 1315436180, 2, 4724, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'mikefails', 'fearedful12@yahoo.com', '24.18.104.99', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Joshsmith link=topic=483.msg4722#msg4722 date=1315434699]<br />Damnit even Mike cares about those stupid banners. Well if it gets voted into a wad I&#039;ll fix it, and just that. Changing the door might be cheating and besides, it was tested by me to be that unforgiving. Like with the BFG drop on TierDM, they both were originally even harder to pull off but I made them slightly easier.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Haha, yea the banners are annoying but an easy fix I think.&nbsp; Also the door was only a suggestion, I don&#039;t think its bad the way it is, I just think it isn&#039;t as useful because you have to really luck out to use it with spawns.&nbsp; I have no intention of telling you what to do and not do, only offering my observations :)', 'xx', 1);
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	(9355, 945, 18, 1379464868, 2303, 9355, 'Re: TO ALL CAPTAINS RE: AVAILS', 'Watermelon', 'watermelonst@hotmail.com', '99.245.130.4', 1, 0, '', 'Grace period for a day cause collections are starting now', 'xx', 1);
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	(7411, 723, 22, 1346535066, 216, 7411, 'Re: Simplifying a Situation', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '174.92.52.24', 1, 0, '', 'I commend rust for making this topic. As I&#039;ve already mentioned to many of the people involved, I was out of line for my first reaction in #idl (for those that were there). The fact is that Ralph/Bones/Jenova dealt with the issue as fast as they could (imagine if they were afk at the time). As we all see on a seasonal basis, shit happens in the idl that is beyond our control. Hopefully we can learn from this experience and perhaps prevent similar situations in the future. I guess I was just so pissed at the time because something always seems to happen every season to me to disrupt my team. As far as I&#039;m concerned, BSK deserved that victory regardless of what happened. GL in the conference finals soul, water, hex and spider, you&#039;re gonna need it :)', 'xx', 1);
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	(3213, 350, 14, 1294782379, 89, 3213, 'Re: W2011 Suicide League', 'Solar_Flare', 'cdstrangle@gmail.com', '70.242.0.60', 1, 0, '', 'bbc', 'xx', 1);
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	(3358, 378, 14, 1296834983, 19, 3358, 'Re: Week 5 (Jan 31 - Feb 6) : THIRTY431 (MAP31) - Discussion and Results', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.1.67', 1, 0, '', 'Poor raiders. :(', 'xx', 1);
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	(3760, 410, 14, 1300244132, 158, 3760, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Jenova', 'cya-nide@hotmail.com', '173.206.35.202', 1, 1300244625, 'Jenova', 'That exact type of attitude is why you should not be an admin. &quot;Lol, they&#039;re my servers, I can do whatever I want!&quot;<br /><br />Not only you, but Mikehail kick spectators so that you/your friends can watch. Now I&#039;m sure most of the community doesn&#039;t give a fuck because they&#039;re not on the receiving end of this bullshit, but I&#039;m sure if every week the exact same shit happens where they get booted simply because you don&#039;t like them and &quot;ohh Ladna needs a spot&quot; they&#039;d be pretty pissed. I can understand making room for someone like Jehar so he can cast games, but kicking people who are in the IDL and have helped the teams practice, so that their friends and even a special someone who has been kicked out of the league TWICE due to chronic absence is pathetic.<br /><br />Why am I denied a spot to watch games? Every other week I&#039;m always the first person to be kicked to make room for a team which is cool with me, but when I&#039;m randomly being kicked even though the game is going on that&#039;s bullshit. If you don&#039;t like my shit then actually play me in a scrim and beat us, not make up excuses when you lose. Talking shit is all what competition is about. Could you image a private CTF server where it&#039;s 3 Rudys on one team and 3 on the other? Sure you want to win, but you don&#039;t get nearly as much of a sense of achievement if you beat the other team.<br /><br />Sure you can hate me man, I hate you too, but what (besides talking shit to you) have I actually done that makes you resent me so much?<br /><br />And hey, yeah, I do host servers. I host a server for a game which has more people actively playing than Zdaemon does, and you know what? I&#039;ll get that one idiots who I want to ban because he&#039;s always pulling stupid shit to piss me off but unless I have an actual reason to do so I won&#039;t. IDL isn&#039;t run by adults, it&#039;s apparently run by people who are even more immature than myself and that&#039;s saying something. Ladna is cool, I can agree with him most of the time even if he does seem to hate me but Nostar, you&#039;re a kid that needs to grow up. This isn&#039;t Burger King, you can&#039;t always have it your way.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3600, 398, 14, 1299003492, 19, 3601, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.248.172', 1, 1299009258, 'Xenaero', '[img]http://www.inverteddungeon.com/thecvattic/My%20Documents/My%20Pictures/soma-stance.gif[/img] Rookie of the Season: [b]Higgs[/b]<br />Seriously, who the hell was this guy? Dropped out of the sky like goddamned Superman, apparently a good Quake player, jumped into the IDL, and performed rather well. Vast majority of players haven&#039;t even heard of him beforehand, but they sure saw what he could do fairly quickly. His performance speaks for itself. He&#039;s not the best runner of the season by any means, but his different playstyle throws defenders off time and again, and as he played through the season he slowly progressed in his level of skill. Hopefully he&#039;ll keep playing. Someone to keep an eye on for future seasons.<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[img]http://www.inverteddungeon.com/thecvattic/My%20Documents/My%20Pictures/hammer-stance.gif[/img] Captain of the Season: [b]Jenova[/b]<br />Proven he&#039;s a good captain by following up on what some people thought was a fluke. He picked a team many people didn&#039;t expect to go very far, and he&#039;s in hot contention for the top seeded team in IDL9. Although the season is not over as of yet, that is irrelevant as BSK has proven that yet again with Jenova at the helm, they are a formidable fighting force. Could Jenova be the next superpower captain?<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[img]http://www.inverteddungeon.com/thecvattic/My%20Documents/My%20Pictures/j-stance.gif[/img] Comeback Player of the Season: [b]KillingBlair[/b]<br />I really don&#039;t see another choice. How powerful has Blair become in comparison to his former seasons? I can use a priv CTF comparison here. Before Blair was usually avoided because of his performances. Now, he goes real fast. This says something, because SXP has been doing real good with Blair as of late. That&#039;s a commendable turnaround. I almost picked RottKing but really it was just a matter of time before Rott landed on a team that wasn&#039;t falling to pieces. Rott has always played pretty well, but as IDL is a team league, and this is an individual&#039;s category, I think Blair has had incredible improvement this season as a player.<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[img]http://www.inverteddungeon.com/thecvattic/My%20Documents/My%20Pictures/yoko-stance.gif[/img] Underrated Player of the Season: [b]Legion[/b]<br />I know, shocking! But here&#039;s why: Despite FLS&#039; poor record, Legion hasn&#039;t given up as a captain, nor as a player. In fact, in stark contrast, he&#039;s improved in both categories as the seasons has gone on. I think the guy should get a little more credit. Hopefully next season he&#039;ll use what he&#039;s learned from captaining this season and construct a better team, and continue to improve as a player.<br /><br />[hr]<br /><br />[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/1GwbT.png[/img] Most Valuable Player of the Season: [b]LordBritish[/b]<br />I might have put Jenova here, but I already gave him Captain of the Season, that and I don&#039;t think just a solid runner constitutes a stand-out player. However, LordBritish is another runner that has recently proven his worth in other areas of the game. He can also play a surprisingly solid defense when need be. I haven&#039;t noticed another player this season that can succeed in really any area of the map they&#039;re playing. And really it&#039;s not about the frags or flags, it&#039;s also about team cohesion, and LordBritish has shown this week after week in various positions. The ability to adapt to any layout and circumstance and simultaneously pull it off with a great degree of success is enough in my book to warrant MVP. That kind of player is pretty hard to find. It&#039;s kind of surprising to me because I didn&#039;t think LB was really all that great. Probably a hacker.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3898, 419, 1, 1301932672, 141, 3898, 'Re: IDL style mapping contest?', 'X-Ray', 'jake.281@hotmail.com', '67.82.61.167', 1, 0, '', 'i&#039;m down for this...', 'xx', 1);
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	(4031, 433, 16, 1305094746, 7, 4031, 'Re: The Draft', 'Ladna', 'ladna@intldoomleague.org', '69.160.204.4', 1, 0, '', '[quote]<br />&lt;MassVC&gt; WTF Ladna<br />&lt;MassVC&gt; http://forums.intldoomleague.org/index.php?topic=433.0<br />&lt;LadnasDong&gt; BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH<br />[/quote]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4258, 455, 16, 1309894098, 157, 4258, 'Re: What exactly are the rules on trading?', 'Legion_', 'skulltaglegion@hotmail.com', '71.115.108.20', 1, 0, '', '[img]http://i.imgur.com/j5aRE.png[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4334, 450, 3, 1310972034, 163, 4334, 'Re: Double Domination (DDOM): The Future', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.67.246.215', 1, 0, '', 'Strictly out of curiosity, why can&#039;t we get the client? Are they simply not releasing the beta they have now because they know who it&#039;d be going to? You&#039;re not suggesting they won&#039;t allow Total Trash servers to run the new version? ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4136, 443, 18, 1306886078, 75, 4136, 'Re: Week 1 (Jun 6 - Jun 12) : ZDCTF26 (MAP 26) - Discussion and Results', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '178.209.142.37', 1, 1306886495, 'dew', 'stealing star&#039;s template because i&#039;m too lazy to even get a good reason for it<br /><br />[u][size=4]Super Chargers vs. Techno Vikings (CONF)[/size][/u]<br /><br />a potentially great matchup. theoretically it should be the strong generalists (suc) vs. the roleplayers (tkv), but with ralph&#039;s sparse activity i&#039;m suspicious the vikings will be the favourite here. of course i can&#039;t unsubscribe turska fandom after spending a night with him.<br /><br />[b]TKV 2-0[/b] (with one tie)<br /><br />[u][size=4]Doom Raiders vs. Electric Bills (CONF)[/size][/u]<br /><br />i would like hatred to start another surprise squad, but i think it&#039;ll take him a few weeks to get there. on the other hand dmr seems like the most complete team in idl from the start.<br /><br />[b]DMR 2-0[/b]<br /><br />[u][size=4]Demonic Colts vs. Killing Browns (CONF)[/size][/u]<br /><br />i&#039;ve seen both teams play and tbh, i think people are underestimating naut&#039;s squad at this moment. they know their strat and they hold to the plan. meanwhile kgb seems a bit chaotic, unsure on positions and stuff. nevan can fill the gap in people&#039;s hearts after capo&#039;s sad, sad departure. at least up to 50%, if he sniffs glue and starts rambling about bullshit just before the match.<br /><br />[b]DMC 2-1[/b]<br /><br />[size=4][u]Berserker Packers vs. Brokeback Cowboys (CONF)[/u][/size]<br /><br />[url=http://z0r.de/1580]footage from bsk&#039;s practice for the big day[/url]<br /><br />[b]BBC 4%-0[/b]<br /><br />[u][size=4]Spread Eagles vs. Flag Steelers (CONF)[/size][/u]<br /><br />mass will have to defend his preseason trade here. i believe his move was good, but his first trial will be chewy, the man jenova wants to smell like. damn, this could go either way, depending how much self-sabotage legion plans to employ.<br /><br />[b]1-1[/b]<br /><br />[u][size=4]Sexual Panthers vs. Fnordy Niners (CONF)[/size][/u]<br /><br />hrm. as much as i&#039;d love to see my fellow ci members to succeed, i just think it won&#039;t happen. sxp has the frag power to just dominate the map, it&#039;s a grindy one after all. killforce will surprise a tai or two and strangle is just wasting his awesome trade opportunities, so at this point...<br /><br />[b]SXP 2-0[/b]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4582, 483, 16, 1313507472, 17, 4582, 'Re: FIRST SEMI-ANNUAL MAPPING CONTEST', 'MionicDonut', 'Sparx7300@yahoo.com', '69.245.157.115', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=AlexMax link=topic=483.msg4581#msg4581 date=1313472750]<br />also yeah i know map10 is not laid out even similarly to something epic 1 or 2.&nbsp; should i retexture it or something because i really like the layout and it might be easier to navigate with a different texture set.<br /><br />[/quote]<br /><br />Still plays well, but a bunch of overly petty people would blow a gasket if a Something Epic Map didnt play like a Something Epic map.&nbsp; (Dueling gray forts separated by a short path of lava and gravel seems to sum it up well)', 'xx', 1);
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	(4619, 491, 18, 1313988615, 131, 4619, 'Re: Season 10 / Summer 2011 Playoffs - Quarterfinal Round - Discussion and Results', 'Gyrossman', 'mistero@seznam.cz', '89.103.39.137', 1, 0, '', 'Just to make this thread complete. Man I use alot of gamma.<br /><br />[img]http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5297/ctf20110813022118.png[/img]<br />[img]http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7140/ctf20110813023137.png[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(4380, 472, 17, 1311942842, 75, 4380, 'Re: IDL Teams', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '178.209.142.37', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=LordBritish link=topic=472.msg4378#msg4378 date=1311897819]this removes interconference games[/quote]<br />what? NO!!', 'xx', 1);
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	(7412, 724, 18, 1346536327, 0, 7412, 'Re: Introducing... KilgoreQuotes!', 'Soul Sucka', '', '177.42.8.158', 1, 0, '', 'These are great IDL news, indeed! :3', 'xx', 1);
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	(6112, 136, 1, 1327825393, 216, 6112, 'Re: It''s coming', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '174.92.53.102', 1, 0, '', 'wasn&#039;t that xen&#039;s avatar a while ago?!?!?!?!?!', 'xx', 1);
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	(3761, 410, 14, 1300245171, 15, 3761, 'Re: Free wins....', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '76.65.90.44', 1, 0, '', 'Star is just hatin&#039; because whenever we&#039;re around, he loses.&nbsp; You speak of 3 mb wins, how many of those did you NOT get carried to?&nbsp; You were either with chewy or ralphis in each of them, gj bro.&nbsp; You think you&#039;re so good, but good thing we&#039;re around to put you in your place.&nbsp; We did it last season, and we did it in our scrim.&nbsp; Please try to beat SUC, even though you&#039;ll get smashed, so hopefully either me or jen can do it again :).<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(9356, 946, 18, 1379478814, 2303, 9356, 'Week 4 Gametimes', 'Watermelon', 'watermelonst@hotmail.com', '99.245.130.4', 1, 0, '', 'Hello, everyone&#039;s gametimes are as follows:<br />[b]KGB vs SUC[/b]: Sunday 6:30pm EST<br />[b]RMR vs SXP[/b]: Sunday 7:00pm EST<br />[b]B4 vs RRS[/b]: Sunday 9:00pm EST<br /><br />Be sure to provide your demos to myself (Water) or HumanBones before your game!', 'xx', 1);
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	(3601, 398, 14, 1299008075, 69, 3601, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'Goatface', 'roger.banango@gmail.com', '129.101.19.71', 1, 0, '', '1. Rookie of the year:<br /><br />Higgs.&nbsp; Rust and Turska have been playing great but I gotta give it to Higgs because I consider him a true rookie while these other guys have been playing for a while. Guys shows up outta nowhere, picks up DooM and he&#039;s playing great.<br /><br />2. Captain of the year:<br /><br />Ralphis.&nbsp; I want to say Strangle, but what&#039;s holding me back is a somewhat easier schedule and a suspicion that Mike is calling some of the shots.&nbsp; Ralphis is a contender every season, with this one being no exception.&nbsp; SUC currently has the best record and are a solid team all around.<br /><br />3. Comeback player of the year:<br /><br />I don&#039;t like this category. Maybe Bloodstrike? In addition to playing well after a long break he is also playing hard and not being an asshole! Some players would give up on a losing team but it&#039;s nice to see Blood trying hard.<br /><br />4. Most underrated player:<br /><br />Climhazzard!&nbsp; I was very surprised and very pleased I was able to draft him so late(1st pick of the last round). Looking at the draft list he&#039;s performed better than about 10 people who were picked before him.&nbsp; His stats are good and he&#039;s around a lot.<br /><br />5. Most Valuable player:<br /><br />Stalion. More than a few contenders but I gotta land on Stall.&nbsp; He&#039;s the best defender in the league right now, and I expect BBC is going to the MasterBowl.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3899, 406, 14, 1302013995, 163, 3899, 'Re: Regular Season Discussion', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.18.42.209', 1, 0, '', 'Okay, now that the season is totally over, how did you guys feel about the regular season?', 'xx', 1);
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	(4369, 473, 18, 1311704288, 216, 4369, 'Re: Week 8 (Jul 25 - Aug 1) : ZDCTF18: The Old Castle - Discussion and Results', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '67.68.35.162', 1, 0, '', 'We are closing in to the end of the regular season, and week 8 has 6 conference matches (many of which have a HUGE impact on play off seeds). Let&#039;s take a look:<br />[b][size=4]Doom Raiders vs. Techno Vikings (CONF)[/size][/b]<br />This will be a very interesting game if all parties show up. LB, Star and Gyross will have a tough time getting past Rus and Xray, especially in such a small map. This one could go either way, but I&#039;m gonna call it in TKV&#039;s favour. <br /><br />[b]TKV 2-1 [/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Sexual Panthers vs. Flag Steelers (CONF)&nbsp;  [/size][/b]<br />This is a very important game. Whichever team wins is that much closer to a playoff spot. I predict chewy dominating at mid and legion and goat bringing in flags.<br /><br />[b]FLS 2-1[/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Demonic Colts vs. Electric Bills (CONF)&nbsp;  [/size][/b]<br />This game may not seem important in terms of playoffs, but it should be an interesting game nonetheless. Can hatred and his bills repeat last weeks miraculous performance? Will DMC ever show up to another game this season? Only time will tell. <br /><br />[b]EBL 2-0[/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Berserker Packers vs. Fnordy Niners (CONF)[/size][/b]<br />This is a crucial game for BSK. They must win to keep hopes of a playoff spot alive. I don&#039;t see them having TOO much trouble, but they shouldn&#039;t underestimate KNF. KNF may have the firepower to upset BSK, who are longing for a play off spot. <br /><br />[b]BSK 2-1[/b]<br /><br />[b][size=4]Spread Eagles vs. Brokeback Cowboys (CONF)[/size][/b]<br /><br /> ;) :o ;) ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) :o ??? ::) :-X :-X :-\\ :-\\ :-\\ :-\\ :-\\ ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :-\\ :-\\ :-\\ :-\\ :-\\ :-X :-\\ :-X :-\\ :-X :-\\ ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ;)<br /><br />[b][size=4]Super Chargers vs. Killing Browns (CONF)[/size][/b]<br />This is an extremely tough one to call, and is bound to be a fantastic game. Hopefully Tai won&#039;t decide to play Dawson, as he probably won&#039;t be able to find the server again. I&#039;ll call this one in SUC&#039;s favour just so KGB can prove me wrong <br /><br />[b]SUC 2-1[/b]<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(4032, 433, 16, 1305100395, 130, 4033, 'Re: The Draft', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.4', 1, 1305113275, 'nostar', 'Last season if Legion picked 1st and 13th and Ralphis picked 12 and 24th would those teams be fair? Let&#039;s play that scenario out using those captains and last season&#039;s picks at those spots:<br /><br />[size=1]Legion, Nostar, Rottking<br />VS<br />Ralphis, Devastation, Dr.Noob[/size]<br /><br />I personally would give the edge to Ralph&#039;s team there but consider the situation using the current snake draft system<br /><br />[size=1]Legion, Nostar, Dr.Noob<br />VS<br />Ralphis, Devastation, Rottking[/size]<br /><br />Ok so the first match-up is substantially more fair. In essence that is what a straight draft does for less talented captains. I actually liked the ABC ABC CBA system because that offsets some of the strength of 4ths, which have been getting more play in the 12-team IDL system.<br /><br />While I agree that it would take a lot to make Ralphis&#039; team on par or with Legions I do think it is possible. I also think it&#039;s possible to make teams even this season. I don&#039;t necessarily agree with doing it, but I certainly think it&#039;s possible.<br /><br />My personal opinion is that Legion, Mass, and Clim should be given the first picks in a straight draft. Strangle, Naut, and Prime should be given the next tier and Rus, Tai, the third, etc. If I wanted to shoot for parity among the teams in the league I would do that. I think it&#039;s easy to make the teams even. I just don&#039;t necessarily think it is fair.<br /><br />Mass and I talked about it and I mentioned to him that during the franchise era, the straight draft was relatively effective. There was a good turnover of non-playoff teams every season becoming playoff teams and so forth (see Xen going from botch to Conference Finals). The reality is that the only way for #12 (or #8 during the franchise era) to stay competitive in a straight draft is the franchise system, having a strong core to be able to absorb a lower pick. My team picked last during every season of the franchise era and in a 3v3 format having 2 lower picks is really difficult to keep competitive. I think even with good players captaining those teams it would be a struggle to maintain winning records with the current player base. I felt that way then and did pretty much everything I could to circumvent the problem. My solution was JKist.<br /><br />The reason picking later was beneficial last season is purely because of the snake draft style and the way the player base shaped up. If 2-3 guys did or didn&#039;t signup picking early might have been an advantage. It all depends on where the drop off in veteran idl skill is. Last season it was around pick #19 or so. That is when euros (I love you guys) and inexperienced players (I loathe you guys) began to be picked. That means that pick #s 1-5 had a perceivable disadvantage that was not made up for by the initial advantage of picking earlier in the draft. Picks 1-5 were as follows:<br /><br />[size=1]<br />Goatface - Nostar, Dr.Noob, Climhazzard<br />Tai - Whiteboy, MadV, Goblin<br />Mantis - Chaindude, Mandolore, Prime<br />Legion - Bloodstrike, Kov, Beast<br />Humanbones - KBlair, dewww, MassVC[/size]<br /><br />Even if you discount Goat&#039;s team because of the the Rus/Goat trade you have 2 teams to go to the Wildcard and 2 to miss playoffs (although I postulate that Goat would have missed playoffs with that team as well and should ostensible be included). Granting me that we have 3 out of a possible 4 teams missing playoffs falling in the top 5 picks. Picking in those spots, even with veteran captains like Bones, Tai and Mantis, all of whom have been to a Masterbowl, was a disadvantage. Even with 3rds having break out seasons (Prime and Mass) and top players (White/Chain) they struggled to eek out wins.<br /><br />The idea of letting captains decide where they pick is interesting, subject to abuse and negligence and probably a bad road to travel down. I like it in theory but it would just go badly especially if we have newer captains every season, which seems to be the trend. I would file it under the heading [i]&quot;If this league was professional it would be cool&quot;[/i], if only because in pro leagues there are financial consequences to botching. An idea to give that kind of option to some captains would be to have IDL officially allow captains to trade their picks. The fact that it goes on anyway (yes I&#039;m usually involved) and is sometimes not beneficial (see Donut trading Whiteboy to Fastidious for I DON&#039;T EVEN REMEMBER WHO [u]IT WAS SO BAD[/u]) really means it should be regulated. I likened it to prostitution. Agree with it or not, it happens. Why not make it safer under the purview of the IDL Administration. That way you don&#039;t have Legion trading pick #1 for #12 in a straight draft just so Nostar can play with Chewy again. I tell you here and now I can make that happen, don&#039;t test me.<br /><br />I think the obvious answer is a straight draft or some variation of it. It would have to coincide with draft pick re-ordering but that is part and parcel with changing something as fundamental to the draft as it&#039;s format. If the league needs/wants Legion and Clim to cap and be competitive then that is the best answer so far.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4259, 456, 16, 1309895686, 130, 4259, 'WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE CURRENT IDL STANDINGS?', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.242', 1, 0, '', 'Because wow the site is broken as shit.<br /><br />TKV	3-1-0<br />EBL	0-4-0<br />KGB	2-2-0<br /><br />SUC	3-0-1<br />DMC	1-3-0<br />DMR	2-1-1<br /><br />SXP	2-2-0<br />BSK	1-3-0<br />SPE	3-1-0<br /><br />BBC	3-1-0<br />KNF	1-3-0<br />FLS	2-2-0', 'xx', 1);
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	(4137, 443, 18, 1306892442, 216, 4137, 'Re: Week 1 (Jun 6 - Jun 12) : ZDCTF26 (MAP 26) - Discussion and Results', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '67.68.32.106', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=dew link=topic=443.msg4136#msg4136 date=1306886078]<br />stealing star&#039;s template because i&#039;m too lazy to even get a good reason for it<br />[/quote]<br /><br />[u][size=4]Super Chargers vs. Techno Vikings (CONF)[/size][/u]<br /><br />This is the match to watch in terms of teams packed with skill. On paper, these two teams seem to be among the best in the league. However, SUC seems to have more experience and I choose them to come out on top this week<br /><br />[b]SUC 2-1[/b] <br /><br />[u][size=4]Doom Raiders vs. Electric Bills (CONF)[/size][/u]<br /><br />DMR looks deadly this season. EBL looks less deadly. Unless Hate and mantis pull off a miracle, I don&#039;t see them having fun this week. <br /><br />[b]DMR 2-0[/b]<br /><br />[u][size=4]Demonic Colts vs. Killing Browns (CONF)[/size][/u]<br />I agree with dew in the matter of DMC being underrated. However I think Tai&#039;s past chemistry with bloodstrike will help them win this week&nbsp; <br /><br />[b]KGB 2-1[/b]<br /><br />[size=4][u]Berserker Packers vs. Brokeback Cowboys (CONF)[/u][/size]<br /><br /> ???<br /><br /><br />[u][size=4]Spread Eagles vs. Flag Steelers (CONF)[/size][/u]<br /><br />This is an awesome match to watch as it will be revealed whether or not mass&#039;s trade paid off. Also can chewy help legion erase last year&#039;s disappointments? This match was tough for me to call, but in the end, I choose SPE as the victor.&nbsp; <br /><br />[b]SPE 2-1[/b]<br /><br />[u][size=4]Sexual Panthers vs. Fnordy Niners (CONF)[/size][/u]<br /><br />This one is tough to call. Do Humanbones and his kill-ers (and tobi) have what it takes to overcome Strangles&#039;s team of skilled euros? I guess we won&#039;t know for sure until their game is played, but i predict KNF barely overcoming the wall of bones.&nbsp; <br /><br />[b]KNF 1-0 (two ties and a win)&nbsp; :))[/b]<br /><br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(7413, 723, 22, 1346537816, 4, 7413, 'Re: Simplifying a Situation', 'Tenchu', 'ddmrulz@gmail.com', '99.32.168.118', 1, 0, '', 'ROFL dewmad is the best thing in the entire IDL.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8643, 855, 17, 1362972967, 2084, 8643, 'Re: This is why...', 'EmZee712', 'Aishiteru712@yahoo.com', '76.107.137.235', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Watermelon link=topic=855.msg8641#msg8641 date=1362972698]<br />Sorry to hear that about RL<br /><br />What&#039;s going on if I may ask?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Just a bunch of stuff that I already have enough stress from i.e. school, working 10-hour shifts at fucking pizza hut, breaking up with my girl, which I still am getting over. Wish you guys would understand but, I get it you guys sit inside all day playing this game. <br /><br />And yes, I picked bojan because I like her, is that that big of a deal? Are you guys gay or something?', 'xx', 1);
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	(4620, 491, 18, 1313991046, 0, 4620, 'Re: Season 10 / Summer 2011 Playoffs - Quarterfinal Round - Discussion and Results', 'Fastidious', '', '75.4.143.135', 1, 0, '', 'High gamma = cheat, lets you see in the dark!!! OMG', 'xx', 1);
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	(8802, 518, 30, 1364342835, 216, 8802, 'Re: IDL Radio', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '70.26.83.60', 1, 0, '', 'thats awesome! IDL Radio was great and I definitely look forward to its revival', 'xx', 1);
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	(6113, 136, 1, 1327828432, 19, 6113, 'Re: It''s coming', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '76.4.117.175', 1, 0, '', 'yes.<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/8DTIg.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3214, 362, 14, 1294796405, 10, 3214, 'Re: W2011 IDL-R Free Agent - Trade History', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 0, '', 'Trade bump', 'xx', 1);
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	(3762, 410, 14, 1300246533, 89, 3762, 'Re: Free wins....', 'Solar_Flare', 'cdstrangle@gmail.com', '98.199.179.106', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=ItalianStallion link=topic=410.msg3761#msg3761 date=1300245171]<br />You speak of 3 mb wins, how many of those did you NOT get carried to?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Yeah dude barely making playoffs this season doesn&#039;t help very much.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3218, 370, 14, 1294802374, 75, 3218, 'Re: Comments during matches...', 'dew', 'dewww@seznam.cz', '213.168.180.128', 1, 0, '', 'roster advice or general gaming tips should hardly matter as they are often meant as cheers or mockery. when a spectator starts to interfere with the game by revealing info about the opponent, he should be banned from idl servers for being a moron.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6411, 627, 18, 1331141791, 2194, 6411, 'Re: Promo Vid - Winter 2012 Regular Season', 'Reverse', 'Kirboy02@hotmail.com', '173.178.151.101', 1, 0, '', 'As soon as I heard the intro, the first word that came in my mind was Rottking. Such a badass announcer.', 'xx', 1);
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	(8563, 847, 28, 1361884579, 209, 8563, 'Re: Odamex player movement compared to ZD', 'AlexMax', 'alexmax2742@gmail.com', '71.71.255.27', 1, 0, '', 'I am also not a scholar on ZDaemon&#039;s netcode, having not personally looked at it.&nbsp; However, taking your claims and request at face value, the problem I see with your proposal is resolving shots in the case where their movement is &quot;predicted&quot; like you suggest and there is a misprediction (i.e. the player actually traveled in a different direction than was predicted).<br /><br />If you make this purely a clientside effect, and have the server resolve the shot where they actually are located without this sort of prediction on the server, the visual result will be that occasionally you will shoot someone, the shot will appear to hit, but they won&#039;t take any damage.<br /><br />If you make this a serverside effect, you run the risk of being hit during a lagspike someplace where you never actually were...though this is less of a clearcut case, since the alternative to either is using the ticbuffer and either hoping you have enough buffered inputs leftover to make up for the jitter or being frozen in place.&nbsp; There is no such thing as a free lunch on the internet, after all.<br /><br />This is, of course, assuming that ZDaemon does in fact do this effect.&nbsp; I haven&#039;t looked at the 1.06 source to verify.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3900, 406, 14, 1302032912, 19, 3900, 'Re: Regular Season Discussion', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.48.249.152', 1, 0, '', 'Cum / jizzh.jpg', 'xx', 1);
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	(6346, 619, 20, 1330562586, 157, 6346, 'Re: yo yo', 'Legion_', 'skulltaglegion@hotmail.com', '71.115.99.65', 1, 0, '', 'this is stupid. remove the old textures already, idiots<br /><br /><br />since when did this become some sort of rocket science', 'xx', 1);
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	(4260, 456, 16, 1309896020, 130, 4260, 'Re: WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE CURRENT IDL STANDINGS?', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.242', 1, 0, '', 'Here is a neat double post.<br /><br />Who would have thought that after 4 weeks Legion would have a better record than:<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Hatred[/li]<br />[li]Climhazzard[/li]<br />[li]Nautilus[/li]<br />[li]Strangle[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />and tied with<br /><br />[list]<br />[li]Humanbones[/li]<br />[li]Tai[/li]<br />[/list]<br /><br />Still part of the bottom half of the league (tied for worst in the top half!) but good lord he&#039;s raping faces by legion&#039;s standard.<br /><br />Additionally I would like to point out that amidst criticism of Mass&#039;s preseason trade he&#039;s tied for the best record in his conference, has a better record than my team, and is tied for the second best record league wide (albeit a 3-way tie). I know this is only week 4 but cmon, let&#039;s make Jenova apologize publicly to Mass for his premature comments.<br /><br />I like to point out when the league goes in a good direction, even if there are forfeits and people bawwwwing the league is seeing some serious turn over. Woo IDL!', 'xx', 1);
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	(4381, 472, 17, 1311962669, 163, 4381, 'Re: IDL Teams', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.110.104.242', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Legion_ link=topic=472.msg4373#msg4373 date=1311846612]<br />just to reply to one of hatred&#039;s &quot;points&quot;, when did idl ever cater to the bad captains (according to hatred, me/everyone not him)???????????????? I have not seen or heard anyone giving me an unfair advantage??? apparently I pulled some sort of awesome advantage like a powerplay or something like that from the fucking ether<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I don&#039;t think you&#039;re a bad captain honestly, you&#039;re just a bad player. You drafted correctly given your position - you took chew. That should be a no-brainer though. Regardless, you do show up to games, you practice a ton and you put in work while most IDL captains sit on their asses. I&#039;ll give credit where credit is due, your team is 50 times better than I thought it&#039;d be this season and I&#039;m happy for you. But the reality is, you&#039;re not very good. Have you come a long way and improved over the last few seasons? Absolutely. But you still handicap a team. You can&#039;t frag well, you can&#039;t run well, you make dumb decisions and there are only a select few maps you&#039;re actually worthwhile in. So yes, I apologize, I was wrong to call you a bad captain and pick on you but you&#039;re a bad player who still handicaps a team. As far as &quot;catering&quot; goes, I admit that was a poor choice of words. What I really meant was we should try to do something more to get good players to captain and not just be so quick to accept bad players as captains. I do understand it&#039;s not easy to get good players to do such but it&#039;s just frustrating when you have guys who would never make an IDL team be made a captain. I also understand this is a dilemma for some of the lesser tier players like yourself, Legion. The only way you&#039;d ever realistically start for a team is IF you become a captain or if the talent pool is really watered down. All I can say is, regardless of what happens with you as a captain next season, dedicate this off-season to improving on certain areas. So, Legion, in closing, I apologize for the fact I went out of my way to pick on you. You&#039;ve improved a lot, you continue to play, you&#039;re not all that bad but in a regular IDL season where we have decent talent and balanced teams, you&#039;d be lucky to be drafted as a 4th. That&#039;s not disrespect, that&#039;s the damn truth. If you don&#039;t like it, work your ass off to improve and be a better player. Or quit. Either result won&#039;t impact me much at all but I would love for you to actually work on getting better. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4138, 443, 18, 1306901520, 163, 4138, 'Re: Week 1 (Jun 6 - Jun 12) : ZDCTF26 (MAP 26) - Discussion and Results', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.50.8.53', 1, 0, '', '[b]Super Chargers[/b] vs [b]Techno Vikings[/b]<br /><br />If Ralph is around and SUC is well practiced, contrary to popular belief, I don&#039;t see this one being close. While Rus is a defensive machine in 26, I don&#039;t see his team having a lot of coordination and mostly staying within reach of victory by frag power alone. X-Ray was a fantastic pick, maybe the steal of the draft given rus&#039; position. turSKA has proven he is a formidable runner but will he be able to do it against super fraggers like Rust with while Xen patrols the middle. I don&#039;t see TKV winning unless Ralph disappears and SUC doesn&#039;t practice.<br /><br />SUC wins 2-0<br /><br />[b]DooM Raiders[/b] vs [b]Electric Bills[/b]<br /><br />A battle of faggots will go down as top two fraggers of last season throw their ssgs down and stone each other to death through the Ohio/Indiana Border with Hate and Nostar. Once again, LB will be battling off pigeons to save what&#039;s left his eye while Mantis will be bitching about TT and Mob will be showing pictures of his dick. You noticed I didn&#039;t mention Collision, probably because he won&#039;t show. Prediction:<br /><br />EBL finds a way to sneak by amidst the stone fight between Star and Hate<br /><br />[b]Demonic Colts[/b] vs [b]Killing Browns[/b]<br /><br />KGB looks really good on paper once again. Junior was a great pickup for Tai and if Bloodstrike comes around enough for them to get worthwhile practices, I could see them being a great team this season. DMC? I think they were probably better off with Caboose last season. This team won&#039;t win a game, possibly challenging DMR of two seasons ago for not even winning a single round. KGB dominates.<br /><br />KGB 2-0<br /><br />[b]Berserker Packers[/b] vs [b]BrokeBack Cowboy[/b]<br /><br />BSK is a team made up of 3 solid players but no true &quot;star.&quot; The team concept will be crucial for BSK to compete this season and I don&#039;t know if that will even be enough. BBC looks primed (get it, primed) and ready to go on the defensive end but will an experienced Euro runner in Dew be enough for them to compete with more potent offensive teams in the WDC? Well this week I won&#039;t see it being a problem but I do think BSK will make this one a close 2 round battle with the slight chance of a 3rd round.<br /> <br />BBC wins 2-0<br /><br />[b]Spread Eagles[/b] vs [b]Flag Steelers[/b]<br /><br />Star is right abour Dr_noob, he is very talented but I question his commitment. Meanwhile, Mass is putting the world on his shoulders for this SPE team as the defender and trusting noob to maintain mid coverage throughout. I question that, which leads me to believe SPE could be this seasons &quot;disappointment&quot;<br /> as KGB was last season. While mike is great and more than capable of carrying a team, he&#039;s going to need help. Can Mass be what he expects himself to be? I suppose only time will tell but I do like the talent of this line-up, I&#039;m just not sure how well it will mesh. I&#039;ll go with the upset here, Chew can literally go crazy at any point making people like Legion look like Jenova. I can see chew making mike&#039;s life miserable here via mid and I don&#039;t know if SPE is ready to grind it out just yet with their overall inexperience in noob and mass. <br /><br />FLS wins 2-1<br /><br />[b]Sexual Panthers[/b] vs [b]Fnordy Niners[/b]<br /><br />This won&#039;t even be close. SXP is the best team in the WDC and with Bones and Blair going hard at it again, I see them possibly running through the WDC undefeated. Meanwhile, Strangle drafted the entire European Union, which the people he drafted are great but he seemed to not realize 2/3rds of his team will be pinging 140. SXP will cruise here.<br /><br />SXP wins 2-0.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4621, 491, 18, 1314046279, 20, 4621, 'Re: Season 10 / Summer 2011 Playoffs - Quarterfinal Round - Discussion and Results', 'Mantis-X', 'nesman90@aol.com', '24.148.177.169', 1, 0, '', 'GG&#039;s SXP... Those were some intense matches!!', 'xx', 1);
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	(8366, 827, 17, 1360829088, 214, 8366, 'Re: Someone else quits', 'RustInPeace', 'ru5tk1ng@yahoo.com', '70.241.18.138', 1, 1360829184, 'Ru5tK1ng', 'Despite having called out and mocked quitters on a semi-weekly basis, I actually won&#039;t kick Soul around because Bones and Stall already have done enough. However, I will state that his way of exiting stage left is rather poor. Being a board member and simply ditching without even telling his teammates initially just screams &#039;Fuck You&#039; to the league. As board members we have a role that&#039;s a bit more than simply being a regular player. We make decisions and carry out actions that are supposed to be in the league&#039;s best interest. Soul leaving before the end of the regular season is the complete opposite of helping the league. Even more so after the whole ordeal with BBC.<br /><br />Don&#039;t worry Mobius, players like Quitchu, QuitDaddy, BailStrike, NoshowColl, Bailmar, Dr.quit, BailKal, QuitGuy666, Polie, DitchKing(cab) will always be remembered for their actions.<br /><br />I believe that one of the most negative things about this season isn&#039;t all the flaking per se. The flaking and stunts pulled by Zandronum players pretty much ensures that this iteration of IDL will never be on Zan for the next 100 years. Irreversible damage pretty much killed that .000000001% chance for good.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4033, 433, 16, 1305108907, 130, 4033, 'Re: The Draft', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '69.160.204.4', 1, 1305119455, 'nostar', 'I decided to double-post and give you an idea of what the straight draft would have looked like last season. It&#039;s not accurate because captains might have choosen differently given different spots and different players but it helps give some concreteness to this abstract possibility of what a change in the draft system might look like. For the sake of argument I have tiered the captains how I would rank them in skill, it&#039;s flexible for sure. I gave them corresponding players from last season&#039;s draft order, only I used the straight draft style. I stated the current season&#039;s draft order for quick reference, don&#039;t let it confuse you. Ignore player overlap, there can only be one Tony and Lordbritish gets to have himself every night free of charge.<br /><br />[size=1]Pick 1 - SPE<br />[Would pick 4th this year]<br />MassVC<br />Nostar, Rottking, Tony<br /><br />Pick 2 - FLS <br />[Would pick 1st this year]<br />Legion<br />Whiteboy, Metalhead, MadV<br /><br />Pick 3 - BSK <br />[Would pick 12th this year]<br />Clim<br />Chaindude, Xenaero, Prime<br /><br />Pick 4 - DMC <br />[Would pick 3rd this year]<br />Nautilus<br />Bloodstrike, Joshsmith, Beast<br /><br />Pick 5 - BBC<br />[Would pick 10th this year] <br />Prime<br />Blair, Midian, MassVC<br /><br />Pick 6 - KNF<br />[Would pick 9th this year] <br />Strangle<br />Shakal, Collision, Aerial<br /><br />Pick 7 - KGB <br />[Would pick 7th this year]<br />Tai<br />Mikehail, X-Ray, Dosu<br /><br />Pick 8 - TKV<br />[Would pick 8th this year]<br />Rus<br />Saber, dewww, turSKA<br /><br />Pick 9 - EBL<br />[Would pick 6th this year]<br />Hatred<br />Gilgamesh, Kov, Reckless<br /><br />Pick 10 - DMR <br />[Would pick 2nd this year]<br />LordBritish<br />Lordbritish, Mandolore, Ourhero<br /><br />Pick 11 - SXP <br />[Would pick 5th this year]<br />Humanbones<br />Rust, Goblin, Higgs<br /><br />Pick 12 - SUC <br />[Would pick 11th this year]<br />Ralphis<br />Devastation, DR_Noob, Dawsonation<br />[/size]<br />----------------------------------------------<br /><br />I did this late so bear with me if there are mistakes.<br /><br />You can clearly see that this favors the teams that pick first in a big way. However, it also makes teams look alot more even. Looking at this list of teams I can&#039;t tell you who would win IDL, I can&#039;t even narrow it down to 3. Maybe 2 LBs would be too much for this world to handle but all the other teams look REALLY FUCKING EVEN and would probably result in extremely competitive games. I want to reiterate that my personal belief is that this draft type is a little too slanted in the direction of lower skilled captains but maybe if you reversed the 4ths it would be more to par. I actually wouldn&#039;t mind playing in this IDL, and looking at it on paper, I think it encourages good players to go into the draft. I know white has been on struggling or frustrating teams for a while and this system (while Metalhead and MadV are terrible examples) might land him on a team he can lead to the promise land, instead of one he has to begrudgingly drag through the mud. It also bodes well for newer players (in this example Kov, Reckless, Mando, Ourhero, higgs, DR_Noob) to be on teams with tenured captains who know how to win and how to motivate players to perform for them.<br /><br />All around, for an even and competitive IDL, it makes sense to go in this direction.', 'xx', 1);
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	(4370, 472, 17, 1311742349, 0, 4370, 'Re: IDL Teams', 'Fastidious', '', '76.223.240.234', 1, 0, '', 'I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll play next season but I think Hatred hit a lot of the key points.&nbsp; The biggest is definitely loss of talent.&nbsp; There is more ex-IDL talent by a large margin than talent playing in the league currently.&nbsp; Part of that makes sense since the IDL is an old league now but very few players come back after missing a season.&nbsp; There are a few notable new players but losing new people like Jenova, Higgs, Kov, etc after a season or two is bad.&nbsp; Hopefully we&#039;ll see more ex-IDL players return in the future.&nbsp; The league is also losing more core players (Chain, Rott, Cab, Beast, Doomguy, Ladna, Metalblack, Mid, Oath, Shadow Ghost, Shakal, Whiteboy, myself, etc), guys who have been around many seasons but maybe they&#039;ll be back someday too.&nbsp; I have no real stellar ideas to bring people back to the league other than personal appeals by other players or trying IDL changes to spark player interest.<br /><br />Agreed with letting bad people captain.&nbsp; Currently this seems like the biggest issue in the IDL draft.&nbsp; I proposed a similar idea to Hatred&#039;s in basically forcing the best players to captain.&nbsp; A lot of top players don&#039;t like to captain, myself included, but the truth is the best players usually do a lot better as captains if only for the reason that their teams won&#039;t automatically be behind in talent due to weak captain skills.&nbsp; It already happens a lot behind the scenes anyways, might as well force it to be official.&nbsp; I&#039;ve been on a few teams and seen many teams in the IDL where a weak captain all but gives up leadership in favor of a strong player who ends up making most decisions.<br /><br />Sad as it makes me IDL needs to stop being IFL (International Forfeit League) and either get more players or go back to 8 or 10 teams next season.&nbsp; The amount of forfeits is most likely the worse of any season.&nbsp; At week 7 currently almost 25% of the games are forfeits.&nbsp; Not being around much I&#039;m not sure for why there are so many forfeits.&nbsp; The teams don&#039;t look the strongest but I know most of those rosters can field three players.&nbsp; It seems to be exacerbated by the fact there are a couple really bad teams this season.<br /><br />I also think a shorter season is better.&nbsp; About 6 weeks into the IDL season you realize what is going to happen.&nbsp; I&#039;m not saying the last weeks aren&#039;t a fight for the playoffs for a few teams, but most teams have a really good idea what is going on by then.&nbsp; I also believe changing the map system might breath new life into the league.&nbsp; Going to a system where teams have flexibility to pick different maps each week instead of being stuck to one map a week would be a good thing.&nbsp; It&#039;ll lead to no grinding the same map over and over all week long in practice and matches.&nbsp; A large element of surprise and randomness would also likely be achieved if the system was done correctly which would bring back much needed excitement to the league.&nbsp; If a map is good enough to be played a lot in private it is probably good enough to be in the IDL if teams wanted to pick it.&nbsp; Oh and SmartCTF maps please.<br /><br />Most of these changes or suggestions have been discussed in depth in the past.&nbsp; Just reducing the teams to 8 or 10 is not enough.&nbsp; Just cutting teams is not going to make many players excited but others changes might.&nbsp; Given the current IDL difficulties it makes sense to try some new things and see what happens.&nbsp; I think the IDL should do at least one major change each season, if it works out keep it around, if it doesn&#039;t try something else next season.&nbsp; Stagnation will not fix or improve anything.', 'xx', 1);
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	(6114, 598, 21, 1327843374, 0, 6114, 'Re: IDL-R Priv Results', 'capodecima', '', '90.179.151.60', 1, 0, '', 'i can say only , its impossible win with Spider&nbsp; ;D', 'xx', 1);
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	(8182, 798, 3, 1359063866, 0, 8182, 'Re: Hello', 'Soul Sucka', '', '177.40.41.163', 1, 0, '', 'Hi there, Salami!', 'xx', 1);
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	(3048, 345, 14, 1292540954, 1991, 3048, 'Re: Winter 2010 Post-Draft Discussion &amp; Debate', 'Aabra', 'rwilshere@gmail.com', '192.131.85.210', 1, 0, '', '[me=Aabra]munches on popcorn.[/me]<br /><br />I won&#039;t comment on the teams except to wish them all good luck.... and to remind them not to underestimate the fragging power of Dr. Noob.&nbsp; He may be from ST so a lot of you don&#039;t know him but expect him to turn some heads.&nbsp; My prediction for ROTY.<br /><br />Plus that guy is almost always around so I don&#039;t think you&#039;ll have any problem with attendance.<br /><br />I&#039;ll personally be cheering for the Flag Steelers and Fnordy Niners.&nbsp; :)', 'xx', 1);
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	(8699, 858, 29, 1363212927, 157, 8699, 'Re: New Event', 'Legion_', 'skulltaglegion@hotmail.com', '173.59.166.160', 1, 0, '', 'ill play', 'xx', 1);
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	(3027, 344, 14, 1292453406, 10, 3179, 'Winter 2011 Draft Results', 'Ralphis', 'ralphis@gmail.com', '207.172.194.119', 1, 1294522734, 'mikefails', '# | Player | Team<br />[hr]<br />[b]CAPTAINS[/b]<br />CP	Goatface	Doom Raiders<br />CP	Tai	Killing Browns<br />CP	Mantis-X	Spread Eagles<br />CP	Legion	Flag Steelers<br />CP	Humanbones	Sexual Panthers<br />CP	Caboose 	Demonic Colts<br />CP	Strangle	Fnordy Niners<br />CP	RussianDumbass	Techno Vikings<br />CP	Ralphis	Super Chargers<br />CP	ItalianStallion 	Brokeback Cowboys<br />CP	Hatred	Electric Bills<br />CP	Jenova	Berserker Packers<br />[hr]<br />[b]ROUND 1[/b]<br />01	Nostar	Doom Raiders<br />02	Whiteboy	Killing Browns<br />03	Chaindude	Spread Eagles<br />04	Bloodstrike	Flag Steelers<br />05	Killingblair	Sexual Panthers<br />06	Shakal 	Demonic Colts<br />07	Mikehail	Fnordy Niners<br />08	Sabertooth	Techno Vikings<br />09	Gilgamesh	Super Chargers<br />10	LordBritish 	Brokeback Cowboys<br />11	RustInPeace	Electric Bills<br />12	Devastation 	Berserker Packers<br />[hr]	<br />[b]ROUND 2[/b]<br />13	RottKing	Berserker Packers<br />14	Metalhead	Electric Bills<br />15	Xenaero	Brokeback Cowboys<br />16	Joshsmith	Super Chargers<br />17	Midian	Techno Vikings<br />18	Collision 	Fnordy Niners<br />19	X-Ray	Demonic Colts<br />20	Dew	Sexual Panthers<br />21	Kov	Flag Steelers<br />22	Mandolore 	Spread Eagles<br />23	Goblin 	Killing Browns<br />24	DR_Noob	Doom Raiders<br />[hr]<br />[b]ROUND 3[/b]<br />25	Climhazzard 	Doom Raiders<br />26	MadV 	Killing Browns<br />27	ThatsJustPrime	Spread Eagles<br />28	Beast 	Flag Steelers<br />29	MassVC	Sexual Panthers<br />30	Aerial 	Demonic Colts<br />31	Dosu&nbsp; 	Fnordy Niners<br />32	TurSKA	Techno Vikings<br />33	Reckless	Super Chargers<br />34	OurHero 	Brokeback Cowboys<br />35	Higgs (LF)Fei 	Electric Bills<br />36	Dawsonation	Berserker Packers<br />[hr]<br /><br /># | Player | Team<br />[hr]<br />[b]CAPTAINS[/b]<br />CP	Sabertooth	&nbsp; &nbsp;  Splash Damage Dolphins<br />CP	Beast 	Spreehawks<br />CP	Godsdoomer	Tourettes Skins<br />CP	mikehail	Bang Broncos<br />CP	Killingblair	Splatterday Saints<br />CP	Lordbritish 	Hot Wax Bengals<br /><br />[hr]<br />[b]ROUND 1[/b]<br />01	Roscoe	Splash Damage Dolphins<br />02	Tavion	Spreehawks<br />03	Acolyte	Tourettes Skins<br />04	Nazz&nbsp; 	Bang Broncos<br />05	Killforce	Splatterday Saints<br />06	Souler 	Hot Wax Bengals<br />[hr]	<br />[b]ROUND 2[/b]<br />07	Ten(chu)	Hot Wax Bengals<br />08	Propane	Splatterday Saints<br />09	Devisin	Bang Broncos<br />10	Reaver 	Tourettes Skins<br />11	Rexn0r	Spreehawks<br />12	Swiftshot 	Splash Damage Dolphins<br />[hr]	<br />[b]ROUND 3[/b]<br />13	Treky 	Splash Damage Dolphins<br />14	Junior 	Spreehawks<br />15	Fleshwizard 	Tourettes Skins<br />16	Hydra (RedShirt)&nbsp; 	Bang Broncos<br />17	Capodecima 	Splatterday Saints<br />18&nbsp;  Asgar&nbsp; &nbsp; Hot Wax Bengals<br />[hr]<br />[b]ROUND 4[/b]<br />19&nbsp;  Quiksilver&nbsp; &nbsp; Hot Wax Bengals<br />20	Fluffles 	Splatterday Saints<br />21	Mobius	Bang Broncos<br />22	SandBlaster 	Spreehawks<br />23	HydrasFire&nbsp;  	Splash Damage Dolphins<br />[hr]<br /><br />[b]Remaining Free Agents[/b]<br /><br />BrandonD451<br />LordAtreyuDX', 'xx', 1);
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	(3763, 410, 14, 1300250032, 130, 3763, 'Re: Free wins....', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '38.109.187.5', 1, 0, '', 'Yay Stallion to the defense! I&#039;m sorry I hurt your girlfriends vagina. Let me make it up to you!<br /><br />How many of those did I not get carried to? I don&#039;t know. How many of yours were you not carried to. I had some really great teammates and I kicked the shit out of people like you. Don&#039;t be so salty. Just give me my due and stop being butthurt.<br /><br />[quote author=Jenova link=topic=410.msg3760#msg3760 date=1300244132]<br />That exact type of attitude is why you should not be an admin. &quot;Lol, they&#039;re my servers, I can do whatever I want!&quot;<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I like the way your tiny brain conflates one action to all actions. No one said whatever I want. I don&#039;t ruin IDL games. I don&#039;t ban just anyone, and really I&#039;m far more magnanimous than DUI or DoomedEarth admins ever were. <br /><br />If anything you&#039;re attempting to make my behavior toward you seem like it is commonplace when in reality I treat pretty much everyone (including stallion) way better than I treat you. It&#039;s because I dislike you. And that it&#039;s mutual makes it even better because I have power and you don&#039;t. Get used to it. As long as I&#039;m around it will probably be the case. I&#039;m glad you&#039;re angst-y about it. That means I&#039;m winning. Bi-winning even since the free-win era of TKV started.<br /><br />[quote author=Jenova link=topic=410.msg3760#msg3760 date=1300244132]<br />Why am I denied a spot to watch games? Every other week I&#039;m always the first person to be kicked to make room for a team which is cool with me, but when I&#039;m randomly being kicked even though the game is going on that&#039;s bullshit. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />How is it bullshit? Please state a reasonable case and I will totally apologize and change my behavior. Why do YOU deserve a spot in the server. Is [i]first come first serve[/i] the way you believe it should be played? Should it go from order of alltime idl win percentage? Should I appoint some pontiff to choose who leaves or have an IDL official rank each player in terms of their wittiness and overall humor.<br /><br />The reality is that when it comes to things that don&#039;t matter (like your wish to watch IDL games over mine or mieks) yes I get full say. In the same way that I get to decide whether or not you&#039;re allowed in my servers at all, I get to decide whether or not you&#039;re in my servers at any given time, especially if you&#039;re not even playing in the game.<br /><br />[quote author=Jenova link=topic=410.msg3760#msg3760 date=1300244132]<br />And hey, yeah, I do host servers. I host a server for a game which has more people actively playing than Zdaemon does, and you know what? I&#039;ll get that one idiots who I want to ban because he&#039;s always pulling stupid shit to piss me off but unless I have an actual reason to do so I won&#039;t.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I&#039;m glad you host servers for that game. I&#039;m glad you&#039;re very nice to those people. I&#039;m sure they aren&#039;t always nice to you. What bearing does this have on our conversation? You think I should be nice to you because if you were in my shoes you&#039;d be nice to me? I&#039;ll&nbsp; just cut the the end and call you a liar. Nothing about your behavior thus far in irc, in game or otherwise, toward me or other players indicates that given the opportunity you would be anything more than a faggot troll. I probably wouldn&#039;t have singled you out and treated you this way if you were anything else. Do I kick Mantis? Do I kick Beast? I wouldn&#039;t say that these people like me necessarily but they are civil. One of the disingenuous things about your little hissy fit is that you&#039;re crying foul when you&#039;ve done nothing but bring this on yourself. <br /><br />[quote author=Jenova link=topic=410.msg3760#msg3760 date=1300244132]<br />IDL isn&#039;t run by adults, it&#039;s apparently run by people who are even more immature than myself and that&#039;s saying something. Ladna is cool, I can agree with him most of the time even if he does seem to hate me but Nostar, you&#039;re a kid that needs to grow up. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />I wish you guys would stop assuming I run IDL. I have refuted this at every turn. It&#039;s like saying because Alex hosts Funcrusher he runs Skulltag. I host servers and I play doom actively. The people who run IDL are nothing but professional. <br /><br />[quote author=Jenova link=topic=410.msg3760#msg3760 date=1300244132]<br />This isn&#039;t Burger King, you can&#039;t always have it your way.<br />[/quote]<br />Well we have a Whopper around some where. And it seems like I continue to have it my way with you, your mother, and everyone else, [b]and[/b] you continue to cry like a bitch boy.<br /><br />[quote author=Solar_Flare link=topic=410.msg3762#msg3762 date=1300246533]<br />Yeah dude barely making playoffs this season doesn&#039;t help very much.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Come on man, I won my division. What more do you faggots need. 3 Masterbowls (consecutive), 3 undefeated regular seasons, 1 undefeated reg/post season...I feel like this is just jealousy really.', 'xx', 1);
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	(7111, 689, 22, 1340986004, 216, 7111, 'Re: WEEK 1 - MAP16 ZDCTF16 (JUL 2 - JUL 8 ) - Discussion and Results', 'ThatsJustPrime', 'shma_man@hotmail.com', '70.26.128.91', 1, 0, '', '<br />[b]Killing Browns[/b] vs [b]Super Shotgun Spurs[/b]<br />[i]Tai, Caboose, DemonSphere, Capodecima[/i] vs [i]HateDaddy, Shakal, Collision, Roscoe[/i]<br /><br />I don&#039;t know if hate&#039;s team has practiced yet, or intends to at all. Also, I&#039;m quite surprised because Caboose seems to be around a lot, and KGB is actually getting some decent games of practice done. Both teams look extremely good on paper, and both teams are filled with R players. So obviously this will be a good game. IMO Sgs are the &quot;favourites&quot; to win here, but I predict a KGB upset<br /><br />KGB 2-1<br /><br />[b]Mass Destruction[/b] vs [b]Super Chargers[/b]<br />[i]DoomGuy, Climhazard, Xyltol, Mobius[/i] vs [i]Ralphis, LordBritish, Reckless, Dew[/i]<br /><br />This will be an interesting game as we will finally get to see how Ralph and LB will play together. I think that Ralph will play dew this week, it doesn&#039;t seem like much of a &#039;Reck&#039; map (prove me wrong tho). I don&#039;t see MAD being able to defeat SUC just because of a sheer lack of firepower. However they may have a chance if they can time the sphere effectively and keep Ralph off of it. There is a slim chance of that happening though. <br /><br />SUC 2-0<br /><br />[b]Beserker Packers[/b] vs [b]Sexual Panthers[/b]<br />[i]Soulsucka, Bloodstrike, Hex, Gax[/i] vs [i]HumamnBones, Rustk1ng, Legion, JCDenton[/i]<br /><br />Bones&#039; lineup is definitely scary this time around. He definitely stole legion in the draft, as legion is definitely a threat on odamex. BSK can look forward to an inpenetrable Bones/Legion defense and a persistant, unstoppable force that is Rust running with the megasphere. BSK definitely looks like the weaker team on paper here. I haven&#039;t seen Hex or Gax play much, but they&#039;re gonna have to step their game if they want to beat SXP (that goes for soul too :)). I don&#039;t see BSK giving up too much of a fight against SXP.<br /><br />SXP 2-0<br /><br />[b]Brokeback Cowboys[/b] vs [b]We&#039;re All Doomed[/b]<br />[i]Prime, X-Ray, Fluffles, Killforce[/i] vs [i]Stall, Saber, Nosturi, Shane[/i]<br /><br /> ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) ::) ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) ::) :o :o :o :&#039;( :&#039;( :&#039;( :-* :-* :-* ??? ??? ??? ;D<br />', 'xx', 1);
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	(3603, 389, 14, 1299011699, 49, 3603, 'Re: Totaltrash Server Expansion', 'Killingblair', 'blair.cahue@gmail.com', '216.164.140.107', 1, 0, '', '[quote author=Beast link=topic=389.msg3588#msg3588 date=1298919698](funny I just got off the phone with cogent sales manager 8))[/quote][i]If you got some mofuckin&#039; hops, then we can play some mofuckin&#039; doom.[/i]', 'xx', 1);
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	(3901, 406, 14, 1302044142, 1989, 3901, 'Re: Regular Season Discussion', 'higgs', 'phiggs@gmail.com', '68.151.44.209', 1, 0, '', 'It was a fun experience playing in my first IDL season. If I ever play another one I&#039;ll be much more prepared, there were a couple of random silly things that got to me over the season that I didn&#039;t realize how to remedy until after I had played my final game. No real use in dwelling on it now tho, it was a lot of fun and I was happy just to get drafted after only playing a handful of priv games in the weeks leading up to the draft. Thanks to Hate for noticing me in those and later picking me as a 4th. I do have a few thoughts though:<br /><br />It should be 4v4. Doesn&#039;t matter what game you&#039;re playing 4v4 just works a lot better. I would also think that it would open the door to some better maps being played cause I thought the large majority of them this season were pretty poor. I heard its 3v3 to get enough teams but imo a 6 team 4v4 tourney beats a 12 team 3v3 tourney...<br /><br />Anyways, ggs all. If QL is super dead again at next years draft you might see me popup again :)', 'xx', 1);
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	(4034, 433, 16, 1305125333, 163, 4034, 'Re: The Draft', 'Hatred', 'jbetts21@live.com', '99.34.210.77', 1, 0, '', 'I&#039;m offended that you thin I&#039;d actually draft not only one mexican, but two. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4261, 456, 16, 1309896701, 15, 4261, 'Re: WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE CURRENT IDL STANDINGS?', 'ItalianStallion', 'stalliondoom@gmail.com', '68.171.231.80', 1, 0, '', 'Chewy', 'xx', 1);
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	(4337, 450, 3, 1311007218, 8, 4337, 'Re: Double Domination (DDOM): The Future', 'HumanBones', 'zachbandle@rocketmail.com', '98.234.131.145', 1, 0, '', 'From what I was told, during the public beta stage (which could last for up to 5 dog years), only certain servers are being allowed to have the server client. AF-Domains actually got in touch with Xenaero and clarified, and it was posted on [url=http://www.altdeath.com/fluxbb/viewtopic.php?pid=1782#p1782]altdeath[/url]. ', 'xx', 1);
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	(4371, 472, 17, 1311778151, 19, 4371, 'Re: IDL Teams', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.183.245', 1, 0, '', '[quote][img]http://i.imgur.com/556cJ.png[/img][/quote]<br /><br />[img]http://i.imgur.com/ZmdUZ.gif[/img]', 'xx', 1);
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	(6347, 619, 20, 1330566108, 19, 6347, 'Re: yo yo', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '71.55.224.113', 1, 0, '', 'I did a test and discovered that it can be done to run the map32 texture replacement patch that we ran pre-season as an optional wad on the servers. PH has been updated to reflect this. I assume TT will follow suit since I made Ladna help me test it. This will address players complaints hopefully! Sorry it&#039;s taken until week 9 for this to happen.<br /><br />Download this if you don&#039;t have it already and put it in your WADs folder: http://static.totaltrash.org/wads/map32tex.wad', 'xx', 1);
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	(8367, 827, 17, 1360829264, 19, 8368, 'Re: Someone else quits', 'Xenaero', 'Xenaero@gmail.com', '184.1.248.204', 1, 1360829962, 'Xenaero', 'Laughing my ass off at BailStrike and DitchKing.<br /><br />Those fuckers demolished so many teams.<br /><br />Let&#039;s not forget the Blizzard Bros, tho. They were masters of abandoning their teams.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3215, 361, 14, 1294800937, 0, 3215, 'Re: Who will be rookie of the year (season)?', 'Fastidious', '', '99.141.213.246', 1, 0, '', 'All the Europeans love Turska!&nbsp;  8)', 'xx', 1);
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	(4382, 472, 17, 1311965790, 0, 4382, 'Re: IDL Teams', 'Fastidious', '', '75.63.61.157', 1, 0, '', 'That was an apology?&nbsp;  ???', 'xx', 1);
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	(6115, 598, 21, 1327851298, 0, 6115, 'Re: IDL-R Priv Results', 'Soul Sucka', '', '177.40.101.53', 1, 0, '', 'Good games, especially MAP26 and 20.', 'xx', 1);
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	(3766, 410, 14, 1300257525, 76, 3766, 'Re: Free wins....', 'RussianDumbass', 'russiandumbass@gmail.com', '146.115.165.241', 1, 0, '', 'Nostar is rollin&#039;, but they hatin&#039;! Meanwhile, in Siberia, I am RusDancing Unceeunceeunceeunceeuncee&nbsp; ::) ::) ::)', 'xx', 1);
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	(3606, 398, 14, 1299012868, 130, 3606, 'Re: That time of year again..', 'nostar', 'nostarcast@yahoo.com', '38.109.187.5', 1, 1299012994, 'nostar', '[size=2][b]Rookie of the Season:[/b][/size][/b][/b]<br /><br />Higgs is a terrible pick. While I&#039;m thrilled he&#039;s playing in the idl, he&#039;s not there yet. For that reason AND the fact that there are IDL starter quality rookies this season I have to throw the title to either Rust or Mass. I know Rust isn&#039;t a real rookie, he&#039;s been playing longer than me I hear. Mass on the other hand has improved every game and did all but shut down the best team in his conference and flag leader last week. I think Rust is better than Mass, but I think Mass is more of a rookie I guess. Either would be a fine pick.<br /><br />[i]MassVC for RoS[/i]<br /><br />[size=2][b]Captain of the year:[/b][/size]<br /><br />Ralph can&#039;t get&nbsp; captain of the year. He has probably the best team and a ridiculously easy division on top of that. He actually slacked this season, if you can believe that. I like Stallion for this award because in my experience drafting is a big part of captaining and he fucking rocked that. Hatred seems to be the front runner this award but my brain says he botched his draft, made the best of it and is a tie break away from missing playoffs. Stall is still contending for #1 seed so I pick Stallion<br /><br />[i]ItalianStallion for CotS[/i]<br /><br />[size=2][b]Comeback player of the year:[/b][/size]<br /><br />...if this is even a real category. Rott certainly didn&#039;t come back from anything. He got fucked last season by a really bad trade and was the favorite to win his conference before that. Blood is a great pick for this; sitting out of the IDL for 5 seasons (?) and coming back to #4 overall. Neither get my vote though. I think this award goes to Hatred for actually coming back when he told Goatface he couldn&#039;t last season.<br /><br />[i]Hatred for CbPoS[/i]<br /><br />[size=2][b]Most underrated player:[/b][/size]<br /><br />There are so many. Turska slipped far in the draft and is ridiculously good, Josh too. Clim has all the credentials for this one and some rookies in Mass and Prime stand out for being left-fielders no one really saw coming. From those picks I can really just call this the 3rd round award (4ths). Out of those guys I would say that Mass or Prime have to get the award. Clim is a known quantity (played in and won a Masterbowl) and his attendance was the reason his slipped so far. Josh isn&#039;t really underrated so much, he&#039;s just a lock to ditch at least 1 of your important games during the season or just chaingun for 20 minutes straight. Mass and Prime have not only been consistent they have been essential to their team&#039;s success AND they&#039;re both fighting for playoff contention right now, [b]against eachother![/b]. I will give Mass the edge because I see his team making it this season, but really which ever player&#039;s team makes playoffs should get this award.<br /><br />[i]MassVC for MUP barring SXP meltdown[/i]<br /><br />[size=2][b]Most Valuable player:[/b][/size]<br /><br />This is a hard award. When I watch sports I always want the MOST VALUABLE player, not the best player to win this award. I generally look at struggling teams or team that were supposed to struggle but haven&#039;t. Using that formula White pretty much always wins the award every year. He&#039;s picked high by bad captains then he rages his way to playoffs and loses. However this season I think it&#039;s probably mikehail who means the most to his team. He does play every position, often at the same time, with a gimp ping and at the highest level. His team, until last week, even had a shot at #1 seed. All of this when they were slated to have a less than stellar season. Rookie captain (under-skilled), no-show Canadian, DOSU....Miek wins this running away.<br /><br />[i]Mikehail for MVP[/i]', 'xx', 1);
